i will be using a 3'X4' cold frame, i have already put 6 cubic feet of fresh planting soil in and i am germinating around 20 seeds now... i was wondering if anybody had any ideas that might help...
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i will be using a 3'X4' cold frame, i have already put 6 cubic feet of fresh planting soil in and i am germinating around 20 seeds now... i was wondering if anybody had any ideas that might help...
Hi, You will need some kind of heating element especially at night I don't think using a passive system will work. Also you'll need to supplement the lighting because the days are too short. I tried doing a greenhouse grow last year here in s.ca. now while our winter was mild enough not to kill my seedlings they stayed seedlings until the end of Feb when the weather got more favorable.
You'll want to use a space heater and a heating pad or soil heating cables and keep the pots off the ground. Supplemental lighting and a space heater will be necessary as well. For heartier growth the plants will need more potassium and phosporus in the winter.
I'm interested to see how this goes.
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that's the problem, it's in the woods... around 1/3 mile from the nearest outlet. so i need a battery powered heater of some kind, as well as a small lighting system with a timer... or just use the light as the heat and kill two birds with one stone? I have NO idea how i'm going to do it, but i have 2-3 days to figure it out. (which is why i asked for help...)
Truthfully I have my doubts on this one. There are these bladders that fit around pots that hold water in them the water warms up a bit during the day when there is sun and because water releases heat slowly they keep the roots from getting too cold but I am unsure how they would work in such a cold climate. As far as a heating system goes you can look at the propane powered heaters but the cost may be problematic. As for the lighting goes you can rig a solar system but then again its costly and I have no idea how much sun you get in winter and if it would be enough. My guess is that you'd be better off in spending the money on an inside grow.
I'm gonna have to second lunarose there - it's about to get cold as hell and your plants aren't going to receive enough hours of light in the winter. You would be better off directing your money and energy toward throwing together an indoor grow. Save the outdoor for spring and populate it with nice healthy clones that have had a headstart inside this winter.
ok, i've looked and looked and looked... and i'm going to do it anyway, despite REDICULUS amounts of critisism from various sources around the net. I'll put up updates mabey once a week with pics when things get moving. hopefully i'll have something to look at in about 3 weeks. we'll see...
very cool man, i will be watching for your updates.. i am pondering this idea as well, let me know how you chose to do it!
Id say good luck, but lets be realistic your setting yourself up to fail. The only species that will take the cold weather and lack of sunlight is Ruderalis, and they produce very low amounts of THC. Id say save you seeds but to late. Im guessing this is you first grow, (sorry if im wrong) so some seeds wont germinate then youll kill a few and later on more problems. This will happen with good conditions, conditions and experience you wont have. Growing is not as easy as it sounds!
Sure would suck if you got caught trying to grow plants with no yield or werent going to make it.:confused:
your right! this is my first grow. and if i was alone, i would be totally screwed, just like you said. and your right again in that growing is not as easy as it sounds... However i have a few aces in the hole which is going to make all the difference: #1. I have a partner who pretty much knows everything about everything when it comes to weed. #2. i built the habitat that the plants are going into specifically for growing in the winter. and last but not least #3. i've done my homework, and not only should they survive the winter, they should turn out some pretty potent stuff at the end. Either way this is going to be interesting... Just look at it this way, if i fail then i learn something in the process. If i succeed, then people who originally thought they couldn't grow in the winter might be able to. either way it's a win-win situation.
I'm curious to see, do you hav any pics of your setup?
alright, planted the germinated seeds on thursday. got 15 well germ. seeds with roots as long as 1 1/2" although the pics don't show everything too well, the structure is 47"x42"x19" with 1/2" insulation covering all for sides on the inside. I used 3" screws and liquid nails adhesive compound to seal the "roof" to the main body. The whole top section was built independently, thus the handles. in the spring, i can just take the screws out, dissolve the compound, and use the main section again while storing the top for next winter. I took the pics before i finished all the caulking, so it may not look finished, but it is... ;)
I was wondering what you are going to use for fresh air vent? A co2 generator on propane would be amazing for that.
Went out to check on my little experiment... pleasantly surprised with 4 little sprouts. :D OK, now i know this is not a big deal in reality, but it still kicks ass because they have only been getting natural light through the window and i have NO special equipment. 3 of them are about 1 1/4" and one is 3/4" tall with 2-4 tiny leaves each. it's been 60-70 deg. for the last 3 days, and if it keeps going like this i will be VERY pleased. :thumbsup:
we are going to have a cold winter.
wow that is a crazy idea but good luck I need to build a box like that ill be checking back to see how things go I am from ohio and wouldnt even imagine that
But how will you suplement lighting?
short nights will make it want to flower. Starting off a seedling with 12/12 or less light will make it wanna go hermie.
Solar lighting with led?
to tell you the truth i have no idea how I'm going to supplement lighting. I looked into portable 12" 8 watt florescent lights which run on batteries, and bought one to see if i could just leave it on all the time. I let it run overnight and when i came to check on it the next morning it was off, but the batteries weren't dead, so.... yeah... idk... :confused: more likely than not i'll just end up hoping for the best... oh well.. btw, yesterday there were four, today there are 6. :thumbsup:
Dude, good luck, but there is no way your set up is going to work outside in Ohio. there are pots that plug in and have heaters built into them, propane heaters etc. There is no way you can grow weed with battery operated fluorescent lights. I am not trying to be harsh or hurt your feelings. Let us know if your seedlings last more than 2 weeks out in the cold. I have my fingers crossed for U.
If thats the case then your partner should have told you its not possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by RTHzHTGzGTP
Secondely if you would have done your home work you would discover that the plant is genetically programmed to flower less then 12/12 light.
thirdly: Cold weather drains batery power very fast.
fourthly:It could be possible but the effort wwill never = the quantity or quality.
fithly: pass that dank shit!
Just use reverse as directed and you wont have any hermies
I just don't know how he will be able to keep that enclosure 30 - 40 degrees warmer then the outside temp.
I agree, Lunarose, I am South of Ohio and wouldn't even try it with no electricity. It's gonna get cold soon. Tonight in Kentucky it is 26 degrees. Better not to fight nature? Nature always wins....
Hello Ohio: How them plants doing....?? Update please.
Mother Nature is a ball-breaker :wtf: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LolaGal
Google: Solar Heating.
Be Crafty.
I take it this was a failure? please report back, I dont know why I am curious. Maybe cuz i live in south Ohio.