Doctor estimates McCain's cancer death risk - health - 24 October 2008 - New Scientist
If Palin becomes Prez... omfg don't get me started
Bush 2.0...:stoned:
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Doctor estimates McCain's cancer death risk - health - 24 October 2008 - New Scientist
If Palin becomes Prez... omfg don't get me started
Bush 2.0...:stoned:
I think this is a ridiculous article, I dont think he will die and im definitely not casting my vote based on that. Anyone can die at any second the mccain age argument is so retarded. u know his mother is still alive?......Im just as scared of Biden becoming prez when Obama is assassinated
McCain has a far greater chance of dying in the next 4 years of a melanoma relapse than he does of being elected president. And if he IS elected, I have a 50% chance of dying of a heart attack triggered by shock.
Unlikely that he would die, just my opinion though...we all know what would happen if he did though....
PalinAsPresident.com
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Originally Posted by dragonrider
Tina Fey gotta find a way to mars asap if such a thing does take place!!!
While some may think it's rediculous to worry about whether he may die, it is a REAL thing that we need to think about. Do we really want someone like Palin leading our country? I don't even want McCain leading our country, but if somehow he did get taken out of office... I fear for all of our well being if she takes over.
She has already showed that she doesn't know what she is doing. The only thing we need is people telling her what to do so she gets blamed instead of the people telling her what to do. Which is probably their plan anyways. That way they don't have to hold responsibility for the actions they tell her to take. It's scary to think about.
Watch Jack Cafferty's response to an excerpt of the Katie Couric interview with Palin a few weeks ago. Cafferty has been a news reporter since 1960, has seen a LOT, and could hardly contain himself, saying ".....and if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, IT SHOULD".
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I think this is exactly what happened with George Bush. He is not personally as sinister as some people believe. He is just a guy with a half-baked ideology and not much brains who was in way over his head, and he got led along by the true sinister people who have their own agendas. He is probably actually an OK guy, but he didn't have the brains or balls to really be in charge. He will be blamed for all the mistakes and misdeeds of his presidency while a lot of people who bear the majority of responsibility will never be held to account.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaySin
Sarah Palin reminds me of him in that respect. She is like Geroge Bush on steroids, if that is even possible. She is not very smart. She really BELIEVES in her ideology, even though she doesn't even seem to know what it is all the time. And the McCain campaign has already shown that she can be manipulated and controled. She would be a PERFECT puppet.
Sense we are going to be betting on peoples life's here. What do you think the chance Obama will be assassinated or he will get into a car cash and die? This is such a stupid argument about McCain. Anyone in the world can die from anything. What if Obama gets his by a meteor when he is sworn in? I mean really it is just one more way someone can die really, but sense everyone is different maybe Obama has a higher chance of some disease then McCain. These are things that really matter and we need to think about LOL! I mean god for bid Joe Biden becomes president....:S2:
First, u all hate bush,
Can u name 10 things he did to make u hate him so much.
Dont even say the iraq war, EVERYONE thought it was a good idea after 9/11
and dont say hes stupid, tell me what he did that was stupid
And u all dislike palin?
Can u name 10 things u dislike about her?
All the liberal media bashes her becuase she is the best thing that mcain has, and they try to make everyone thinks shes a bad person.
So tell me what u dont like about them.
"If BS were currency, Sarah Palin could bail out wall street by herself." I loved that one, I had to watch all of the Cafferty excerpts on youtube, but that one was the best.
But is Joe Biden any better? Not really. But I think both candidates had to choose running mates that wouldn't out-shine them too much, but they seem to be getting a lot of attention anyways. What a show! Better than reality TV, even from the other side of the pond.
Here in Finland we had a very popular president, who won many elections back to back. He ended up being so old and totally incapable of leading a country, but our government tried to hide that fact from the people. They even had him fishing and put scuba divers in the water to attach fish to his fishing line.
I can't remember which U.S. pres. it was that made the 2-term policy, but if I remember correctly it was because he was also gaining a lot of age, and felt that he could not do the job properly anymore at his old age.
I am not saying that John McCain is incapable at his age to perform the duties of the U.S. presidency, but a lot can happen in 4 years...
Exactly what if Obama has a mental break down or an accident and becomes retarded? I mean really the argument can go both ways. The fact of the matter is that we don't know what the future holds and we can't be talking about crap no one knows for sure. The point is anything can happen to anyone at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtopsfinn
It's true that anyone can die at any time. That's why we have VPs. I think Joe Biden could be president, but Palin is not ready. Also, even though anyone can die at any time, most people do not have as much chance of dying in the next 4 to 8 years as a 72-year-old man who has cancer. That's the point of this article, that McCain has a statistically higher chance of dying in office than the average person would.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
Ordinarilly I don't think McCain's high chance of dying in office would be a big factor in how people vote except for the fact that he picked such a bad VP.
Also, his chance of dying is not the only problem with his age --- the main problem is his ideas are of date.
You'll need a whole new thread for this, or we will get way off track here. But if you want to make one, I will give you my lists.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
You are correct, we don't know what the future holds, and anything is possible. However, I was talking more about how, when people get older, their mental and physical fitness CAN deteriorate at a very quick rate. John McCain, ideologies aside, is fit to be president. BUT when you take statistics and common knowledge into account, he is a riskier choice if we are talking about him living through his first term vs. Obama living through his first term. This shouldn't be a deciding factor, however, on who you vote for. There are much more important issues from which you could/should base your decision on.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
100%
Ha ha! Jack Cafferty sure is a crusty old curmudgeonly pissed-off old man, but he has some great points here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
I couldn't even guess when McCain will die, Hell, his Mother isn't even dead yet :wtf:
LOL... Couldn't have said it better myself!Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
True about his Mom, and that is one thing in his favor. But sometimes people get the good genes, and sometimes they don't. What did McCain's father die of and when? Also John has cancer, and I don't think his mother does --- if she had cancer at 72, do you think she would be alive today?Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
Well, for starters, she's a religious kook who thinks she has every solution to our problems, which is God, no less. The bible isn't meant to be taken literally lady. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
She also relates being the governor of Alaska to being vice-president of the entire country.
Or how she doesn't even answer the questions she's asked. She dances around it and says what's been rehearsed. Nothing graceful about this fumbling idiot.
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Sorry to threadjack, too. If Johnny boy does make it into office by some stroke of luck, I'd give him a 60-40 chance. :jointsmile:
Can u tell me how Barrack Hussein Obama(aka the terrorist lover) is more qualified to run a country? his wife said her self "first time in her life she is proud of usa" He is friends with BILL Ayers!!!!!! HELLO!!!! why would anyone vote for him?Even his own running mate Biden doesnt think he can run a country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Its a Plant
Lol, well, childish insults aside, I'll leave it at this: even if Obama wasn't qualified (which he is ;)), he's the lesser of two evils in this election. Which is why he will end up winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
I love how you didn't even acknowledge what I posted about Palin. :S2: Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...
regardless of whether you like or dislike Palin, your statement there, says it all, to me ... as a faithful Christian, I couldn't agree with her more ... YES, Christ IS the Solution, and, the Bible is meant to be taken literally, it's just that not enough people take the time to learn it ... God said what He means, and means what He says ... and, that's my :twocents: God Bless you, regardless, we're allowed to disagree :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Its a Plant
Fuck em both...but what choice do we have? I'd go with its a plant. Obama is a lot less scary as our nations leader than McCain/Palin. I mean shit, she doesnt even know answers to questions we are talking about in here? The ONLY reason she is even there, is to try to take the Hillary supporters that dislike Obama...thats it... And a VERY poor choice if you ask me. I think the republicans picked these two KNOWING they WILL NOT win the election. As much as I hate this gov't, I still have some faith in our countries people. Its just not gonna happen. The people dont want moer of the last 8.
Retort?
:smokebong:
And religious beliefs aside...It doesnt have its place in the gov't. I dont give a fuck if you worship albino gerbils. Its your thing. But leave it out of country-wide decisions. Like Bush saying god told him to go to war with Iraq. Really?!?!? If your talking to god, why the hell are we in this economic hell hole?
See, that's my problem. I do not want someone who's judgment is clouded by her religion to be involved in running our country.Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
Having faith is one thing, but to actually take things so literal that you try and apply them to the real world is just scary. But that's me being logical. Anyways, this is a whole other discussion for another day. I'll leave it at that.
Peace & love. :jointsmile:
Hey the Denial aint just a river in Egypt IS MY LINE!!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Its a Plant
About palin,
i didnt think one interview, and 3 things was enough to dislike anyone, so i didnt comment
But if interviews change ur mind about people
What about obama" Spread the wealth" with joe, last time i checked thats socialism.
Ha, plant we need to stops this, lol im never gona like obama and probly u will never like mcain, lets leave it at that and lets go toke:rastasmoke:
Actually if Mccain was healthier and was more lax on social policies I would be all for himQuote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
Obama is my 'lesser of two evils'
Wow, cant beleive Health is somthing that is bothering u
And not the position on witch they stand (except social policies)
These to guys are complete oposite of each other
Mcain is healthy ask his MOM
I don't think health would be such a worry if Palin wasn't down for the VP role. It's as simple as that really, with a different more competent running mate this would not be such a big issue imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
I'm on the other side of the Atlantic and Palin scares the shit out of me - and I'm not alone. We brits are watching this election very closely indeed.
well his recurring cancer worries me, I will not tolerate Palin as Prez, Palin is a complete moron who needs to be put in placeQuote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
Mccain I am ok with
anyways too late, I already voted, besides I'm in Cali, so its a blue state regardless
The way I see it, that is part of the problem right there. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Revanche21
Some states just go to one or the other party every time so if u live there why ever bother voting?
Also it would be SOOOOO nice to have more choices than just two.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:OBAMA ALL DAY:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbs up::thumbsup:
So you are saying people shouldn't take their religion SERIOUSLY?:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Its a Plant
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Originally Posted by stoned88911
So can u tell me why u dont like palin
Palin scares u? and not the people obama associates with, bill ayes, rev wright, and the long list of others. Even his own wife said herself she for the first time was proud of her country
Barrack Hussan Obama sounds like a terrorist to me, and sarah palin scares u???
U all say if republicans win palin is a heart beat away from being president
If democrats win Obama IS THE PRESIDENT that scares the shit out of me.
That would be a step in the right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
u know nothing of statistics, u r shouting it aloud man;)Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
eva since i remember u guys hated obama, and came across the excuses one by oneQuote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
sort of like how government is against marijuana since 1930s and just tries to come up with all kinds of stuff to back its claim up
u either make a claim on basis of some backup initially
or u cant make a claim on air and then try to find some backup for it
just go back and track the negative things said about obama, they came one by one, but ironically the base that hated him remains that very same base, i don't think polls speak of anyone being persuaded to dislike him on the basis of claims being made one after another
and please review the claims that have been made and actually go and find the truth about them, u cannot for love of god compare Obama's association with J.Wright to that of his relationship with Ayers
and i don't really find this argument of knowing people by their associations, or maybe i should, however i dont find it a reliable measure, certainly not the only scale that i would use to weigh things. example: Rumsfeld shook hand of Saddam Hussein back in the old days and guess who led the war against him?
so u could argue how the hell he could be the defense secretary on a war with saddam, but he was and he indeed kicked his ass, voiding and making an exception of such arguments
Dont know where rumsfeld came from.
We are not talking about that, we are talking about the highest postition in the united states.