BREAKING NEWS! McCain is suspending his campaign and is asking Obama to do the same!

Holy shit I just seen it on FOX news!

Here's the news reel: McCain Says He'll Suspend Campaign to Deal With Financial Crisis; Calls on Obama to Do Same; Wants Debate Postponed

I'll post more when it comes.

McCain Suspends Campaign to Help With Bailout

by Sharon Kehnemui Liss, FOXNews.com
Wednesday, September 24, 2008

John McCain asked the Presidential Debate Commission on Wednesday to postpone Fridayâ??s scheduled debate with Barack Obama so that he can work on the financial crisis bailout plan now on Capitol Hill.

The Arizona Republican senator said he will suspend his presidential campaign on Thursday to return to Washington to help with bailout negotiations. He urged Obama to do the same.

McCain Suspends Campaign to Help With Bailout - America’s Election HQ

Newsflash #2- All five presidential candidates plan on burning one, on Capitol Hill, at 4:20 E.S.T. Will decide on next step after they are nice and stoned.

Cannabis needs the economy to crash, forcing us to depend on the real "green".

edit: (Newsflash #2 is not real.)

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Newsflash #2- All five presidential candidates plan on burning one, on Capitol Hill, at 4:20 E.S.T. Will decide on next step after they are nice and stoned.

Cannabis needs the economy to crash, forcing us to depend on the real "green".

edit: (Newsflash #2 is not real.)

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Still like that one better!!.....lol
whiskytango

Anyway.....


I wonder if Obama will do it.

Psssssht. Publicity stunt.

And then when Obama calls him out on it and tells him he's not president yet, and that if he were serious about being a Senator then he would not have been slacking on his duties to begin with, he'll call him selfish and anti-American and make some great sound bytes to be used on the morning talk radio shows...

I love politics. Can someone get me a refill on my popcorn and ju-ju-beans?

ROFL, i dont know what to make of this. In one hand you have McCain, who is an absolute idiot. In the other you have Obama, who is very much so a borderline socialist. Neither of which need to be playing a part in our countries financial mess.

Both should just continue their financial campaign.:jointsmile: I mean presidential campaign:wtf:

McCain is looking to improve his image on Wall Street, as he brings very little to the table.

Not everyone thinks that McCain is slacking off on anything. He's not perfect (I wanted Ron Paul and McCain is prime example of what Ron Paul is NOT) but a far better choice than Obama. Who many also think has been slacking off on his job (writing 2 memoirs but no laws is a dandy example).

And if Obama really freaking cared he would have done this to begin with. It doesn't matter if this was a publicity stunt, at least he's getting off his ass and attempting to do something about the economy. It's still better than doing nothing.

it doesnt matter whose the president cause the illuminati controls the world

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Not everyone thinks that McCain is slacking off on anything. He's not perfect (I wanted Ron Paul and McCain is prime example of what Ron Paul is NOT) but a far better choice than Obama. Who many also think has been slacking off on his job (writing 2 memoirs but no laws is a dandy example).

And if Obama really freaking cared he would have done this to begin with. It doesn't matter if this was a publicity stunt, at least he's getting off his ass and attempting to do something about the economy. It's still better than doing nothing.

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I am not positive, but i really don't think that McCain is a member of any significant banking or economic committee. Of course i could be wrong:)

Talking about the economy and doing something about it are two different animals entirely. I hear lots of people talking, but no one is really SAYING anything meaningful, although it does make for great 20-second news 'stories' on Fox...

Dammit, I've got popcorn kernels stuck in my grill.

OMG Billi I love your pelican. And he's talking in the voice of the wrecker driver from Harold n Kumar I.

Smart move on his part. Obama is ahead in the polls, so McCain does something that seems "presidential". :wtf:

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

Smart move on his part. Obama is ahead in the polls, so McCain does something that seems "presidential". :wtf:

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See, that's where I get my feathers ruffled. We HAVE a sitting president, all comments to his efficacy aside, so McCain is overstepping his authority by trying to act too 'presidential'.

Yeah but I doubt Bush minds. He knows his place when it comes to McCain.

And maybe thats what he's going to do in Washington.

I love how we are in the middle of a "war" and the financial crisis is the one they want to postpone things for. Apparently, it is easy to resolve the situation in the middle east and campaign... but money problems require us to shut the show down and forget we are trying to choose a President.

It's not like everyone is saying "Shit, I wish McCain and Obama would come back to the Senate so we can figure all this economic stuff out." We NEED them to stay campaigning and PROVE who is best to lead.

Yes, it is just ONE debate, but with a number of weeks left to PROVE you are the person for the job... I don't feel we have that time to waste.

Why don't we just postpone the entire election until all of our problems are solved?

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Yeah but I doubt Bush minds. He knows his place when it comes to McCain.

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*Imagining him kneeling down before McCain waiting to be tapped on the shoulder with the Sword of Authority or at least the Sword of Not Looking Like A Damn Fool*

Edit: Indeed, Metal1. We still have 98% of our sitting Senators available to Senatate. Now as for how many of them are showing up for votes... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

"I am calling on the president to convene a leadership meeting from both houses of Congress including Senator Obama and myself -- it is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."

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You know the boss guy in the Dilbert comics? I can see him saying those exact words.
HAHAHAHAHA 'leadership meeting'. How about Total Quality Audits next?

I don't care, I still think that he should be working AND campaigning. Were paying him after all. Might as well get all you can from him before he subcumbs to a heart attack or something.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

What exactly is McCain going to do? :stoned:

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Well they are both Senators and they have to vote on any bail out plan or major economic reform and they are scheduled to go on recess Sept. 26th. I"m sure half othem have already started vacations so they need everyone to come back and get something worked out before they go on recess. Seems like it would be hard to work anything out if part of their attention, McCain, Obama, the other Congressmen and women whoever, is on the debate scheduled for Sept 26th.

Obama say:

"Thanks... but no thanks." :rasta:

-at least for now ;) I'm heading to school and I just caught part of his statement... wouldn't be suprised if all this is backwards when I get home.

What astounds me is that people are bashing McCain for attempting a bipartisan solution. Stunt or not if Obama refuses then he looks partisan and will look stupid sitting at the debates ALONE. Accepting is the only logical answer.

Both of these senators are sitting senators and as such they should put their current Job as the priority. Time doesn't stop just because you are running for President.

We have a congress with Nancy Pelosi at the head who throws tantrums and refuses to have bipartisan talks to come to resolution on just about anything.

It is beyond me how the people in this forum cry cry cry about how McCain doesn't give a crap and then when he actually does something commendable, publicity stunt or not, you still bash him. This is a perfect example of blindly directing your hate at someone for no legitimate reason.

Go look at McCain since the 90's, he's always talked about practicing bipartisan support, has been hated by his own political base because of it. It's not like this is the first time he's done something like this.

Some of the people in here who replied I really thought would have more sense than that. I will leave those persons names out however.

If Obama had suggested this you would be praising him as if he were the second coming of Jesus proposing cooperation between parties for the better of humanity. You can deny it all you want but you can go through quite a few Obama posts in here and see that.

Personally I hate both these candidates but I'm glad someone has got some sense to address what is important RIGHT NOW!! With the demand for 700 billion by friday it makes TOTAL SENSE that McCain would want to talk about this and put off the debates. After friday it will be TOO LATE and the 700 billion will go through.

Anyway you look at it, this is the right thing to do. We've had a piece of crap congress for the last 3-5 years... if putting everyone on the spot get's them off their asses to do their job then by all means.. I am in support of it regardless of which candidate proposed it.

For once people throw your friggin bias out the window and get a clue.

I am a Obama Supporter and Will Not Be Voting For McCain...
That being said I think that this a good idea....They can put off the Debate till Sat or Sun. I don't think the average American realizes just how bad this will be if they don't fix this....And Reasonably Fast!!!!! Its not that the Feddys are trying to stop a repeat of the 1929 Stock Market Crash.....They are trying to stop a repeat of 1932....Read 'The Grapes of Wrath"

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

I'm more interested in his motives.

Why does he do what he does? What's in it for him? Everybody is motivated by something. I'm not bashing what he's doing, I just want to know why.

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You should be more concerned at the moment with the mess we're in. Even Obama acknowledges that there are times when there is no room for politics, and now is one of those times. However he has not yet agreed to put off the debate with McCain.

The topic for this Friday does not cover economic policy but rather foreign. Which is McCains strong point and Obama's weak point. McCain stands nothing to gain by delaying this debate.

Motives aside the president and congress need to SERIOUSLY address this issue. It is not something that can be put on hold with Friday being the proposed deadline for the bail out.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Not arguing with you there.

But like they're really going to put politics aside... it's all politics, baby. :stoned:

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Of course it is, but this is one time I'm glad to see some politics being played, because in this particular situation it MIGHT actually get something done in congress.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

We'll see if it has any impact on the overall outcome of the ordeal. :stoned:

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I doubt it will. This thing has to get signed into effect. One of the hang ups was "golden parachutes", which is minimal compared to the vast salaries needed to employ the 1,000 plus fund managers needed to operate this maneuver.

The senate should have signed the bill into effect today, and with democrats being the controlling side, they will get some of their demands.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

I'm more interested in his motives.

Why does he do what he does? What's in it for him? Everybody is motivated by something. I'm not bashing what he's doing, I just want to know why.

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To be fair, you should ask Obama the same thing.

Just look at both McCain and Obama's voting records and tally how many no votes they have between them. It's disgusting. They're afraid to take positions on a majority of issues. Both of them had voted on amendment attached to a certain bill but did not vote for the bill itself!

Besides that point, none of them work in these committees that play a major role in working towards the issues. Aspects of the bailout would be touched on the majority of committees because of the wide variety of issues that arise. It's nice if both suspend their campaigns, but I think it's a cry from McCain to stop the bleeding. Good move though.

Actually, Obama's reasoning for continuing the campaign and debate seem to me to be spot on...These two simplet....err candidates are competing to be in charge of the mess left by the current administration and now more than ever we the people need to hear what they plan on doing to try and correct the sinking ship.

McCain acting like riding back to Washington and working on this full time will make any difference whatsoever is a bit silly in my opinion. Perhaps if McCain had been in Washington and voted on bills (no vote since April on anything) or Obama as well (no vote on anything since July) things might have been different.

Then again, you would think that somebody that aspires to the Presidency should be able to multi-task. :rolleyes:

This is a major stunt.

Earlier this week you had John McCain saying we shouldn't rush into anything, we need to be prudent. But now it's suddenly such an urgent emergancy in his mind that it can only be fixed by both him and Obama joining their power rings on the floor of the Senate! Ludicrous.

What is really going on is that this crisis has been hurting McCain politically. So he is doing a "maverick" stunt to look decisive and like a man of action. But like everything else hs has done lately, it has backfired. It looks like he is ducking the debates for bogus political reasons. People know it is not up to these two senators to fix the problem. The people who are to fix it are working on it right now. Obama and McCain should be participating in their proper roles, which they can do from anywhere in the country. And they should return for the vote. It's not up to them to swoop in and save the day.

In fact the whole idea that McCain and Obama should be the ones to patch this up is more disruptive than anything. I was watching an interview a minute ago in which one commentator claimed that the Congress was near a deal today and could have passed something as early as this evening, but the McCain announcement threw a bomb into the whole deal. I don't know if that is true or not, but it seems like he is probably doing more harm than good.

It's absolutely BS on the part of McCain to say this is about suspending politics for the good of the country at a moment of crisis --- this is 100% about politics and the fact that he is getting hammered. This is an election --- there is no way to "suspend politics" for now. Everything either of these candidates does is seen through the prism of politics, and they both know it. Definitely the suggestion that they suspend politics for now is a political move.

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What astounds me is that people are bashing McCain for attempting a bipartisan solution.

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The funny thing about the partisan and bipartisan dynamics that are working out right now is who is on what side and why.

The Preisdent is the one who has asked for the bailout and made the case that it is vitally important to get it done NOW.

Most of the house and senate have agreed about the urgency of the situation but are hung up on details, and also hung up by the fact that most of the electorate HATES this baliout. It is actually Democratic congressional members who are supporting the bailout from a policy point of view, but who are most squeezed by the election politics of it not being popular. Many Republican congressional members are actually against the bailout from a policy point of view.

So you have Republicans threateneing to vote against it. And you have Democrats saying, Well, I support it, but I'm not going against my constitutency and siding with freakin' BUSH, if the Republicans aren't even going to vote for it!

McCain is in a very bad spot politically, because his party is in most disarray over it, and becasue he has the most political need to distance himself from Bush.

Obama offerred the best bipartisan approach. Their postions aren't that far apart on this thing, so he suggeted to McCain that they issue a joint statement. McCain agreed to that today, then apparnelty blindsided him with this "suspend the campaign" BS. Maybe they will still do the joint statement. That would probably be the most productive and least disruptive approach.

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This is a major stunt.

Earlier this week you had John McCain saying we shouldn't rush into anything, we need to be prudent. But now it's suddenly such an urgent emergancy in his mind that it can only be fixed by both him and Obama joining their power rings on the floor of the Senate! Ludicrous.

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The government is looking at a $700 Billion bail out and people don't think that the two SENATORS should show up for work? I find that ludicrous! :wtf:

With this sort of thing, if ANYBODY from congress or senate isn't there they should be fired, impeached, whatever you do with the waste in D.C.!!!

Have a good one!:s4:

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The government is looking at a $700 Billion bail out and people don't think that the two SENATORS should show up for work? I find that ludicrous! :wtf:

With this sort of thing, if ANYBODY from congress or senate isn't there they should be fired, impeached, whatever you do with the waste in D.C.!!!

Have a good one!:s4:

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It's definitley a HUGE deal and they should all be doing what they can in their proper roles.

McCain's a bit full of himself if he thinks he is so important to the solution that he needs to put the election on hold while he goes and rescues us. From what I have seen of both their statements regarding what they want to see in a deal, it is pretty much the same, and pretty much the same as what EVERYONE is saying, except for those that want NO deal at all.

So what is Super Maverick going to do when he gets there? Push aside the comittee members whose job it is to work out this deal and say "I'm in charge and this is how it's gonna go?" It's BS. He and Obama are not much more important than any of the other senators on this issue, and they are LESS important than the committee members actually working on it. Believe me, they'll call him if they need him.

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It's definitley a HUGE deal and they should all be doing what they can in their proper roles.

McCain's a bit full of himself if he thinks he is so important to the solution that he needs to put the election on hold while he goes and rescues us. From what I have seen of both their statements regarding what they want to see in a deal, it is pretty much the same, and pretty much the same as what EVERYONE is saying, except for those that want NO deal at all.

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Last I checked both McCain and Obama were part of the election. Last I checked they were both senators.. last I checked they were both going to be in a debate on friday. So does it not make sense that McCain is trying to coordinate with the Obama Campaign as well as the presidential debate people in order to delay the debates to get a resolution?

Full of himself? More like going through the proper channels to put priorities first and everything else on the back burner temporarily.

Though you didn't necessarily say anything bad about McCain you refuse to acknowledge the obvious which cannot be denied. BOTH of these candidates need to put the campaign on hold so that they can do THEIR JOB!

I don't see that as McCain being full of himself.

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So what is Super Maverick going to do when he gets there? Push aside the comittee members whose job it is to work out this deal and say "I'm in charge and this is how it's gonna go?" It's BS. He and Obama are not much more important than any of the other senators on this issue, and they are LESS important than the committee members actually working on it. Believe me, they'll call him if they need him.

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No they're not more important but their in the middle of an election. He proposes they put that on hold and get back to congress and DO THEIR JOB!

Do you not understand that they still have an obligation as senators and McCain is asking Obama, as a senator, to go back to washington to do their jobs.

I don't feel there is anything wrong in that, but if you want to paint McCain as a badguy then by all means go for it. It seems that instead of realizing the obvious you would rather misinterpret the intentions of his statement.

Political move or not, he is more or less saying let's go back and do our jobs over this CRITICAL issue.

If you can't see that then I can't explain it any further because you will just want to view it as pointless when it is anything but the sort.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Yeah, I agree. If I were Obama, I'd definitely play along at least. I mean if McCain wants to play Mr. President, so should Obama.

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I hardly consider calling to go back to Washington to your LEGISLATIVE job as playing Mr. President.

Now making a mock seal of the presidential seal during your campaign or giving speeches in foreign countries where former presidents gave historic speeches.... that's playing President.. Hrm I wonder which candidate did that :hippy:

McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue - CNN.com

Obama says no to McCain. This was a pretty dumb move to be honest. Even if it were a political move by McCain, Obama by saying no has given McCain all sorts of ammo to throw back at him

Neither one of them are president yet and have an obligation to fill as sitting senators.

Oh well.. It's funny how he'll meet with any foreign leaders with no pre conditions but he won't even meet with John McCain for anything.. not for a town hall meeting, not for an overseas trip to iraq, not to do their job in the senate..

Wait.. I forgot Obama hardly votes anyway.. this is doing his job. LOL :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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We shall see.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/us...in.html?ref=us

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He's right.. it is part of the presidents job, neither one of them are president though and this situation we're in is far more important than the presidential debates which can be delayed a few days or a week without it being detrimental to either of them.

I'd prefer to see them place all their focus into their legislative jobs as opposed to a job that one of them may not get.

But to each his own. If we want to pay Obama a huge salary to ignore what's important then I guess that's fine by you, but not by me.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Stop.

Who's our president again? :stoned:

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George W. Bush, who is New York now and I believe heading to Washington Thursday or Friday to address this as well. :thumbsup:

If even Bush can get off his ass and recognize this then why doesn't our entire government focus on this. I guess Obama feels his legislative position isn't as important as his campaign.

I guess it's for the best, like I said Obama doesn't vote very often either. Why are we paying him again to sit and do nothing?

You can google his voting record if you don't believe me. 2/3rds of his votes are NV... no vote. The man rarely takes a stance as it is. I guess it's no surprise that he wouldn't place all his focus on this issue either. :hippy::hippy:

Bush to Meet Obama, McCain, Congressional Leaders on Rescue

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All Obama said was he wasn't canceling the debates.

And Bush is there only because he has to be. :stoned:

He'd rather be in his tree house reading Superfudge.

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But this isn't about Bush.

Wonder what the McCain campaign is needing the time off for... ;)

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There is a good chance that issues won't be resolved in 1 day and that congress will have to hold an extended session. I believe that is what McCain forsees.

It's funny you say this isn't about Bush but continue to make comments about Presidents and how Obama says the future president should be able to do more than 1 thing at a time.

Seeing as how we have a sitting President in Office I find his comment moot and pointless. Obama is a senator. Another example of how Obama already thinks he's in the whitehouse.

If you don't want me to bring up Bush then maybe you should acknowledge that neither of these candidates are president yet and should not be acting as so or making any statements eluding to something of that effect.

Obama is going to catch flak for this, no doubt about it.

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It's definitley a HUGE deal and they should all be doing what they can in their proper roles.

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What the American tax payer is paying them for right now is to be senators...not candidates. This is the largest bail out of all time and they SHOULD be at work!

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McCain's a bit full of himself if he thinks he is so important to the solution that he needs to put the election on hold while he goes and rescues us.

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LMAO!!! I didn't see any Greek Pillars behind McCain as of late. I think Obama is a bit full of himself if he feels that during this $700 Billion expenditure that he can just voice his opinion on the road without showing up at the jobsite. IF he is elected I sure the hell hope he doesn't go for a second term; The Presidents Office is CLOSED till November.

Full of himself.....LOL.

Have a good one!:s4: