just wondering if anyone is from the boulder area? i'm in the mist of getting my card right now, just waiting on my records
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just wondering if anyone is from the boulder area? i'm in the mist of getting my card right now, just waiting on my records
just a few miles away from boulder!
yea anyone interested in any glass i blow glass at chubby's glass in boulder, proubly could cut ya some sweet deals.
One of my best friends is a freshman at Colorado University
web site? i will have to truck on up.... :smokebong:Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainhigh8
I am new to BO and have a card. Can anyone connect me to an organic source. Thanks
Sherelyn
there is store in gunberral that is called The way to grow, thats were i do most of my shopping.
Mountain High, are you still at Chubbys? I've been there once back in the day, but I'm looking for some gear.
yo what up?
i live in boulder and am in need of some glass
do you think i would be able to get a deal since its local?
it all depends.... :rastasmoke: welcome to colorado :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by goldendomewreck
from boulder...looking for some clubs to try out...anyone have any recommendations?
Check the Colorado Dailies. Several MM clubs advertise. Be prepared. Prices charged are off the scale. Almost 2x street price.
Regards
350.for a oz is very high in price.Drug dealer or caregiver hmmmmmmmm!!
i'd say that was a fair price,even tho it's "somewhat"legal there still are alot of risk to contend with. the cost to grow as well it's not free. should they not be able to make a living? if you think it is free to grow it then no need to down someone elses price you can go past all that and just grow your own.a matter of fact i have a great idea,since thats a crazy insane price then tell u what how about you go out and buy all thats needed to grow then spend your time setting it up,then the time to grow it.after all that chop it trim it cure it then tell all of us and we will come over and pick it all up...free ofcorse.Quote:
Originally Posted by topjazzman
then we will all give u a pat on the back and say job well done.thats all thats needed right? the pat on the back i mean? yea put your neck on the line as in leo,thug robbers that go around sniffing out houses to rob,spend all of your money and time to grow it all then give it to us k? i mean if u ask any money for it then u would be a "drugdealer" or "caregiver".
here's alil tid bit for you just to help you out.:thumbsup: but first you have to have somewhat of an open mind to take it in. the golden rule in any biz and or"fun time" is time is money. and if im not gunna do the work to have my own herb then i pay the price that comes with it. if i don't like price then i grow my own so i don't have to try and tell someone that there a rip off for whatever is theirs in the first place. bottom line is it's theirs they own it u pay to play.
sorry to say 350.is a very high price.I do know the costs to grow.and 350 is a rip off !!!!! a caring caregiver that has only 5 -10 patients they are charging 250.zip for organic meds .if you are paying more you are beeing ripped off.I am 57 and have been smoking for over 40 yrs now sorry to say that 30 yrs for my heath problem.Have grown for part of that..you do not live in colorado so you are unable to know the costs.these are caregivers helping the very ill with there pain not trying to become rich off of them.peace
I was forced to grow because I couldn't afford the price.
Now I am caregiver to two patients. They get medicine for free. No, I'm not looking for any new patients.
Most clubs are overcharging. Supply and demand will force them to lower prices if they intend to survive.
Regards
you are right on supply and demand.It will happen and is.
It's extremely costly and you gotta know what your doin. I give respect to care givers. They put their house and family on the line. They spend probibly thousands just to grow for their patients. I think its fair to charge for it but just not overprice. 350 is insane amount. But I'll agree they do have to charge to make a living. But I would rather have a caregiver that charges a fair amount for some quality medicine. Then a dispensary that charges 350 for ok medicine. I would rather have a caregiver that I can see how they are cultivating it and what chemicals they are using. Rather then a dispensary where you don't know how it was grown.
TeK:hippy:
cool like i said im ready to take the free hand out from you. it don't cost anything to grow it so since it's all about helping others you should do it completely free right? why 250? those people that are living off of ssi/ssd can't afford 250 a zip either like myself.so i'll just start getting mine for free from you right? when can we start?Quote:
Originally Posted by topjazzman
i put it in very simple terms above don't like the price then put your own ass and money on the line simple.since jazz says he's grown b4 and said it's free to grow then im game for his free handout offer.tho im not holding my breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeKNiQUE
the thing is the reason these med clubs charge what they do is because they have to buy it first from somewhere "over the amount that they grow" and then they have to pay for overhead too.most that have ever worked for themself and have ran a biz will know this the people that have worked under these people there whole life might not know what it really takes to run a biz.u never see these people that whine about pot prices picketting pharm companies tho.
if a grower is gunna put his neck on the line to grow it he will either sell it to a club for a halfway good price of 250 to 325 an oz.if that club bitches or whines he will go to another.if they all bitch he will just dump it on the street.
another thing and this is the biggest part is it's the growers property as in yea it's his he owns it. thats like going up to a stranger and saying hey u have 2 t.v's give me 1 for free cause u already have one and i need it?wtf lmao. i do understand that if someone is really bad off and needs pain meds i think a club or grower should sit down with each person and work out a payment plan or a reduced plan for these people ofcorse. any biz most of the time will do this. and in the end theres always the gov go ask them for free pot see how far that gets u.
ps i agree with u tho.
You are really a asshole.You must not be sick.We have a store in colorado springs the largest in the state.Last yr the owner made 1,000,000 in profits for being a caregiver.The sad part it is people like your self that really have no idea what it is to be very ill and most of the greedy caregivers are feeding on this.peace my brother !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry but i have worked hard all my life since the age of 12 yes 12 at 14 i held down 3 jobs and still ran my dads shop. working 100+ hrs a week non stop.up until 2 years ago when i fell out of my tractor onto the street.now i have 3 discs that are ruptured,severe nerve dmg and found out i have degenertive disc diease. i get severe headaches where im in bed and can't even move for 3 to 4 days at a time if i move wrong to the point of throwing up the pain is that bad.i can't do any of the things as i once could. so tell me am i lying? with all this i still don't ask for handouts.infact most of what i have grown i give away and i sell the stuff i don't at 250@ an oz. and im an asshole? but im not gunna call this dude down the street a greedy sob for selling his at 350 or 400.why? cause i know he has to do what he has to do for himself too.Quote:
Originally Posted by topjazzman
my dad had cancer and was dying u know how much he had to pay to doctors for his pills? try 200 per doc visit twice a mo and 1200 amonth on his meds.he should have saved all that money and smoked he might still be here.but the pain was so great and the kemo was killing him, he ended up shooting himself in the head in my house the room he was living in as i wanted him close so i could watch after him.so don't tell me i don't know about pain there bubba.
how much of that was paid out in bills and taxes? i can assure u it was'nt net.Quote:
Originally Posted by topjazzman
I can see you have never grown, never paid the overhead involved, never put in the time, never had a gun put in your face, haven't paid your dues!Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
yea ok u need to back up and read all of my post u dim wit.im saying on that very fact is why people charge what they charge. ever heard of sarcasm?? guess not u seem to be a bit dim. :wtf:.wow 2nd time u tried to talk down to me.so all those things u just said would be a reason it should be free? im the one that said 350 is not a bad price and that on acount of all those risks someone would'nt stick there neck out on the line all for nothing.u need to wake up or take the auto pilot off.Quote:
Originally Posted by GratefulMeds
btw yes i have had all those things done to me - the gun in the face but yes i have grown top notch bud and yes i have been robbed how about take a gander at some of my older threads. http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...ml#post1678571
that was my very first grow. iv'e been through the fire so know your fact b4 U go spoutin off...
Checked out your pics. Very Nice!
Back to the dispensaries. There is certainly a need. Not everyone has the time and patience to grow quality organic medicine. They certainly have the right to charge for it. In Metro Denver Colorado it appears to be charge whatever the market will bear. I believe they should be charging whatever is fair. I would not want to pay inflated medicine prices so members can get free massages or classes.
There are quite a few dispensaries opening now. The prices will come down as the market is saturated. I have heard pricing is a bit more reasonable in the Ft Collins area.
Regards
:wtf:my point to a tee grateful jumped on me for trying to take up for him lmao wtf? like a said very dim,the other dude was calling him a drugdealer for charging 350 an oz.i said that sounded ok to me and then explained why i thought so.then grateful attacks me lmao? dude makes no sense im starting to wonder what there putting in the water up in his neck of the woods?:wtf::wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by COVaper
gratefulmeds agree's with you that his prices are too high.roflmao..:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by topjazzman
dude, you are a douche!Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
i've read your posts and find that you are wrong, very vocally wrong (that means you say it so everyone can see how dumb you are), all the time.
why don't you shut the fuck up and let the big people speak.
p.s. you dad's gay
it's "you're". i think i'd like to help you out.lets meet, im ur huckleberry!!!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by pfunk211
ps very big words from a very small cat.....:cool:
ps im your huckleberry!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by palerider7777
it's "your", dumbass.......
you ARE 12, aren't you?!
i'd like to help you really. let me knowQuote:
Originally Posted by pfunk211
im an idiot plz let me make it up to you i want to give you all my money to help you out so you can see the doctor.just let me know and i can have it ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by pfunk211
boulder here, welcome :)
Hey all, I've been a patient for about 8 mos and have been to a number of dispensaries, and purchased my meds on the street a number of times.
Here are some of my observations and thoughts on pricing, please chime in, hopefully without flaming me and everyone else to death ;D
What is fair to charge?
I hate using street price as a guage, but really that should be the upper end for quality organic medication imo, until the medical market has time to fully mature and develop we don't have another yard stick. In my experience street price for good bud is about $300/oz, somtimes cheaper if it's a "good buddy" dealer or they are trying to move it fast. Sometimes more for something rare/super potent. I personally have no problem paying up to street price for medication if it's truly top quality meds and a strain that works for me is consistently available.
It takes some skill/effort/investment to grow quality meds and I don't begrudge the people who are sticking their necks out trying to make a business out of this their profits. However, I think the universal goal of patients, caregivers and dispensaries should be to lower the cost of quality medication and increase the variety and availability that caregivers can offer across the board. This will happen over time as the market grows and the laws continue to be reformed and improved.
Now this summer there seems to have been a shortage of good meds, at least in the dispensaries. I think this is largely due to the huge influx of new medical patients, which is a great thing. Unfortunately instead of maintaining a level/fair price for their existing patients, many dispensaries signed on more patients than they could really grow meds for, then relied on buying "wholesale" and then having to mark up the product to ridiculous amounts to maintain that nice comfy profit margin. I understand a business not wanting to turn people away, but imo the goal should be to allow patients the freedom to select their medication based on what works for them, not what they can afford. It may be an ideallistic goal, but I think one worth striving for.
Thoughts?
@stickyricky-- hahaha-- yep!
To all:
I do have to say that I am 1000% backing palerider, but I'll tell you why without shouting. Prices vary across the country. For example, you get a much lower price for goods in oregon than in boulder. For at least the past 10 years, and before medical MJ became legal in Colorado, all I can remember is $50 per 3.5 grams if you are only buying 3.5 grams. NOW, there are exceptions. That is $50 (full retail/400oz) for an eighth of CHRONIC. If you are a regular customer, or have a cool source, you can get $45 /eighth. If you pay less on the street than that for an eighth of chronic in Boulder, you are either someones good friend, girlfriend, or you know the grower. Its $400(full price for an oz if you don't know the source), BUT $350 is USUALLY the deal if buying a full OZ of chronic. If you can possibly get $300 then you are either someones good friend, girlfriend, know the grower, or are buying mids or schwag and not chronic. As a local this has been the score as long as I remember. I could point to about a hundred people on any given day who would concur with me on this-- those of you getting super deals on CHRONIC are lucky:)
The other point is if you are buying LBS or QP's you get better deals, obviously.
Now, I feel for all medical users, but if this has been the going street price for about a decade, why should it suddenly drop because medical marijuana became legal? Its not like the market is even remotely close to saturated. Last i checked there has never been special pricing for the sick, unless an individual grower wants to be super cool and hook people up for a ridiculously low price or free. Just know that IS NOT customary, or normal here in Boulder. Last I checked, raids are still going on- lots of medical patients i notice- you can still lose EVERYTHING you own if you get busted growing over the measly 3 flowering plants they allow here. That risk merits every penny-- every single penny of the $350 you pay for an ounce. Im sorry but it does. True you medical patients CAN grow your own, and perhaps should if these prices are too high for you( a very reasonable option). Be forewarned- most anyone can grow weed, but it takes a LONG time and a LOT of learning, investment, errors, etc. to grow CHRONIC.
Anything less than $300 an oz. of CHRONIC is an insult to a desperate grower-- UNLESS the grower is selling more than an oz. at one time in which case there may be a further price drop for bulk buying.
obviously the more you buy, the better the price.
I would think, however, that since DISPENSARIES are selling such massive quantities, they might be able to offer an assistance program for restricted-income patients. That would help those with low income, and maintain a profitable business. Dispensary or not, I can ONLY imagine paying over $50 an eighth for only the most incredible unreal effective highest thc content cannabis available.--- Ive never had a smoke that was so much more unreal than what i had to justify that. On the flip side, a good dispensary is AWESOME-- cuttings, cakes, lolli's, so much variety etc- i can see how they justify the markup-- its like going into wonderland going into a good dispensary.
As for on the street in Boulder, Ive given you the score. Sorry if you dont like it, but it is VERY just, and growers deserve every penny from that $350/oz.
peace
I should also say- welcome to the world of unregulated, half-illegal Cannabis-
Since the government can't seem to get their shit together and completely legalize and regulate Cannabis, it is therefore still regulated by the underground market, which, is what makes the rules right now, and likely will hold influence for a fair amount of time to come. Again I fully support low-income patient discounts at dispensaries, but this is the reality of the world we live in. Hell, I wish it was free. Too bad that doesn't make it so.
My problem isn't directly with Big Pharma, the DEA, local police, etc. MY problem is with all of US that we cant yet pass a ballot initiative outright legalizing this plant, state by state, until the federal gov't has no choice but to buckle. Despite the massive power of the institutionalized resistance(DEA, ONDCP, NIDA etc), the sheer masses of this country are, indeed, more powerful. We all can stop complaning as soon as WE change the laws. Be active and vocal and NOT JUST ON CANNABIS MESSAGE BOARDS where you preach to the choir. Restricted MMJ in colorado is a good first step, but there are many more to take, and only THEN will you see the price of your medicine dip.
Prescription or not, it is what it is and it costs what it costs, region by region. Welcome to Colorado:) Keep informing eachother and keep voting-
peace
Sounds like you are just getting high for fun.I thought we are here for medical marijuana talk and not street talk.I am very sick and medical marijuana makes my life a little easier.Caregivers should not be drug dealers.All of us if we do not grow we need to buy.I have been smoking for over 42 yrs.and see that most caregivers are just like the dealers in the past.There are a few very good caregivers out there.I know they have to do alot but remember they went into as to help people sick and if not for the sick people they would be unable to be as out in the open as they are.
peace
For all you medical patients who are acting all pious because you have an ailment and a card, listen up. Whether you hold the card or not has no bearing on who chooses to self-medicate with cannabis. One person holds a card for an ailment, another person has the same ailment and uses the same medicine but without a card, and a third person does it because its relaxing and feels good. You are NO more legitimate to use your medicine in the Feds eyes than either the non card holder, or the recreational user. To them they are all 'addict' druggies and will be punished to the full extent of the law. You follow what I'm saying? YOU, dear card holder, are still considered a *criminal*, just like the guy on the street, and as such, you pay the same prices as 98% of the cannabis users in CO who don't hold cards. Sick or not you aren't special. You are still dealing in the black market which was in place with established prices long before your medical cannabis came on the scene. I want this to change as you do and I hope you find a friend who hooks you up on the cheap, but all this whining and moaning is just aggravating. If you cant afford the chronic, there are mids and then beasters- if dispensaries are too expensive, find a street source who is cool and may hook you up. If thats too expensive or not to your liking, grow your own. you might not be very good at it but at least you'll have a personal stash that in the not too long run will give you virtually free cannabis to medicate yourself into oblivion. if you've been smoking as long as you say you have, and are as poor as you are, perhaps this would be your best option. The other solution is to find other patients, pool your resources, and do a collective grow, combining your prescriptions and sharing the cost of the setup. The entire medical MJ community should be working together and doing this if they want ultra cheep cannabis. Beyond these solutions the problem is you.
BTW -*most* of the people who take the time and effort to learn the trade of growing cannabis at the chronic level are in it primarily because they love it, but secondly, OBVIOUSLY!, to make good $ out of it. That is why you are so lucky to find the smattering of people who do it for the good of the sick, but virtually everyone who provides you with your medicine is in it to make some money because there is money to be made. Has been since 1937-- you can thank your government for that. let that be more of an incentive to channel your frustration where it is better suited, at our elected officials and how they got there. Don't blame the dealers and don't be a damned hypocrite, calling one a caregiver and the other 'drug-dealer'. If they are producing cannabis for people to self medicate, 'script or not, they are the same people. We are all users for hundreds of reasons. None of us are inherent criminals for this. The problem is the law, so..
again, if you want the prices to drop, get out and start educating non smokers and prohibitionists while not coming off as an incoherent imbicile in the process, and vote in the right people to get this legalized for once and for all.
Until then you are still playing in the black market, and the black market set the rules a long time ago. The system hasn't changed itself because you came on the scene with ailments and a card.
Take my advice above, I wish you the best and shimmering trichome blasted buds as white a drift of snow for as little cost as possible. forgive the tough love:thumbsup:
It seems like there's some confusion here between a CARE-giver and a dispensary. Care-givers do not become Dispensaries in order to care for patients or to philanthropically give away a valuable commodity...haven't you noticed it's a gold rush out here! Prices are what they are because of supply and demand; and people are lining up every day to vote with their wallets that dispensary prices are fine. We all have a choice where to spend out money and we can debate on price until the end of time, but if folks keep buying, prices will only go up. Don't get pissed off. Get involved and find a real CARE-giver or grow your own. The market will always take care of itself.
The Strain Man