Can you say RICH,white trash.i love it when the sheep say the republicans are the party of the rich.WAKE UP!!
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Can you say RICH,white trash.i love it when the sheep say the republicans are the party of the rich.WAKE UP!!
no, the republicans are full of a diverse group of people, the rich, the greedy, uneducated/religious, racists, rednecks, homophobics.
-laughs- Juggalo, that was a wonderfully said insult. You've managed to make a worthless thread tolerable.
the fact that you have been led to believe that the republican's are the party of the rich is funny enough.look at democrat donations.sheep.
1st of all, Republicans suck ass big time.
2nd of all, nobody said democrats were better
3rd, it's undeniable that Republicans favor the rich, when they're in power the rich get tax cuts. Nothing to debate here.
w had the biggest middle class tax cut in 20 years?
who has record deficists, you do understand if you wanna start wars all over the globe you need to pay for it, same with building roads, schools, and a ton of other things you take advantage of everyday, and if you wanna keep taking advantage of those things pay alittle extra in taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
republicans in general show absolutely no civic resposibility, they would rather save 5 bucks in their pay check than allow it to be reinvested in the community through things like health care and education, greedy fucks.
all's i can say is ha ha ha isnt it nice to have the right to free speech....got to love it peace out..the king
i don't know about you but i got a GREAT tax return(hopefully private soon) and made about 15,000 dollars of the stock market this year.we dont want a govt run health care system.plain and simple.education is rough but the no child left behind is good and if you are interested you can read stats and see that.and just to be petty,at least the republicans dont have a former kkk member in their party!!civic minded my ass?the dems depend upon minorities being down trodden.it's to funny
its great your making money and can afford the basics to survive. no child left behind is seriously under-funded, you have a good health care plan but over 41 million americans dont have any. im not a dem or republican both partys are to controled by big buisness, but the reason the republican party has no credibility with minoritys because it has shown it could give a fuck less about them, their idea of race relations boils down to building more prisons. you had a great tax return, thats awesome because we all know life is all about how much money you make, who cares if the widow down the street cant afford her prescription pills or some little kid is dying of cancer, its not your problem right.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
also is one former klansman the best you have, i wasnt originally saying the democratic party was great, what you did was try to excuse bad behavior (republicans are greedy fucks who dont like taxes) with other bad behavior (a klansman) your seriosly so mature.
more and more minorities are waking up and seeing the dems dont look out for them.look at nov.2?they loose that vote and its over.their party is already in the dump now,can you imagine??
The republicans just mislead the poor white trash. They sucker them with key words like morals and values, then get them into the voting booths with anti gay marriage policies.
You'd have to be fucking blind def and dumb to think either the republicans or the dems, give a damn about us. They have there own agendas, thats ALL they care about. They tell us what we want to hear so we vote for them, then they ignor us unless they're shooting for another term.
i know, to think that only one 'side' of this fake left/right system really cares and is going to save us. that's the divide and conquer. classic.
the left points out all the bad, corrupt things about the right that the right can't see, and the right points out all the bad, corrupt things about the left that they somehow ignore or can't see...while both sides go down the same road of power and wealth and consolidation of control...both sides are getting screwed by their own side, but they like it, because 'their guy' has the power.
the right's going to suddenly hate the patriot act when it's being used against them, and when they're maced in the face and rounded up for protesting in the streets (like at the RNC last fall)...
their agendas have been subversion of US sovereignty and dismantling of the constitution and bill of rights, in favor of a world government, for at least 100 years, in the visible public record. it should be more obvious now than ever that we're heading towards a world government, and that it doesn't include any constitution or bill of rights like we have now, or had at one time.
the world is gonna end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!oops thats right,its not and every thing for the most part is pretty good
Come on now, how can you even deny both parties have major problems.
Look at the War on Drugs, it is absolute bullshit. Drugs are illegal to protect the pharmacuetical, alcohol and tobacco industries. No politicians openly talk about wanting to legalize drugs.
Look what else is going on:
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The Bush/Quayle/Lilly Pharmaceutical Sellout
In America, marijuana's most outspoken opponents are none other than former First Lady Nancy Reagan (1981-1989) and former President George Bush (1989-1993), the former Director of the CIA under Gerald Ford (1975-1977) and past director of President Reagan's "Drug Task Force" (1981-1988).
After leaving the CIA in 1977, Bush was made director of Eli Lily to none other than Dan Quayle's father and family, who owned controlling interest in the Lilly company and the Indianapolis Star. Dan Quayle later acted as go-between for drug kingpins, gun runners and government officials in the Iran-Contra scandals.
The entire Bush family was large stockholders in Lilly, Abbott, Bristol and Pfizer, etc. After Bush's disclosure of assets in 1979, it became public that Bush's family still has a large interest in Pfizer and substantial amounts of stock in the other aforementioned drug companies.
In fact, Bush actively lobbied illegally both within and without the administration as Vice President in 1981 to permit drug companies to dump more unwanted, obsolete or especially domestically-banned substances on unsuspecting Third World countries.
While Vice President, Bush continued to illegally act on behalf of pharmaceutical companies by personally going to the IRS for special tax breaks for certain drug companies (e.g. Lilly) manufacturing in Puerto Rico. In 1982, Vice President Bush was personally ordered to stop lobbying the IRS on behalf of the drug companies by the U.S. Supreme Court itself. (See Appendix.)
He did - but they (the pharmaceuticals) still received a 23% additional tax break for their companies in Puerto Rico who make these American outlawed drugs for sale to Third World countries.
(Financial disclosure statements; Bush 1979 tax report; "Bush Tried to Sway a Tax Rule Change But Then Withdrew" NY Times, May 19, 1982; misc. corporate records; Christic Institute "La Penca" affidavit; Lilly 1979 Annual Report.)
- The Emperor Wears No ClothesQuote:
1988: DEA Judge Rules that Cannabis has Medical Value
The DEA's own conservative administrative law judge, Francis Young, after taking medical testimony for 15 days and reviewing hundreds of DEA/NIDA documents positioned against the evidence introduced by marijuana reform activists, concluded in September 1988 that "marijuana is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."
But despite this preponderance of evidence, then DEA Director John Lawn ordered on December 30, 1989 that cannabis remain listed as a Schedule I narcotic - having no known medical use. His successor, Robert Bonner, who was appointed by Bush and kept in office by Clinton, was even more draconian in his approach to hemp/marijuana as medicine. Clinton's current DEA administrator; Thomas Constantine (appointed 1993), upholds policies for worse even than Bonner's.
So. . . if all this has been known since 1975, what is our government waiting for?
Protecting Pharmaceutical Companies' Profits
NORML, High Times, and Omni (September 1982) indicate that Eli Lilly, Abbott Labs, Pfizer, Smith, Kline & French, and others would lose hundreds of millions, to billions of dollars annually, and lose even more billions in Third World countries, if marijuana were legal in the U.S.*
* Remember, in 1976, the last year of the Ford Administration, these drug companies, through their own persistence (specifically intense lobbying) got the federal government to cease all positive research into medical marijuana.
Take a look at the Rebulicans brilliant approach to stopping the spread of HIV and AIDs: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...ewpost&t=14243
See what wonderful thing us Americans are doing for the environment: http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/
The No Child Left Behind act sure was good of him...right?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/...no.child.left/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7019619/
More affordable Health Insurance?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug21.html
They're tryin to build a prison...
http://www.cjpf.org/sentencing/noellebush.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Bush...tice-Ivans.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6999272/site/newsweek/
http://www.abanet.org/irr/hr/winter04/casualty.html
We must establish Democracy everywhere...
http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/2005-03-11-voa1.cfm
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/12/21/usint9925.htm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ck=1&cset=true
But...hes started a war...everyone loves a good war! Who knows what are we fighting for or against, he has changed his reason a few times...but war sure does make me proud to be an American.
- Bill HicksQuote:
Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed America, your goverment is in control. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up, go back to bed America, here is American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on the living in the land of freedom. Here you go America - you are free to do what well tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
i know both sides are f--ked up,i choose the lesser of two eveils.we are fighting islamic fundamentalists.wherever they are in whatever country they are in.no one likes war and i think the Bush team were stupid in playing the wmd theory so tough.zarqawi was there before we went.enough said.
What about the saudi arabians? A large percentage of al-Quaidas funding came from the saudies, and so my question is, why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia after 9/11 rather than iraq, which had little to do with al-Quaida, and nothing to do with 9/11. Also, just because there are terrorist groups in Iraq, how is that "enough said"? There were and still are terrorist groups (including al-Quaida) in the USA, Mexico, Parts of Africa, the UK and many other places.
Wait, wait, wait...
You have the balls to call liberals sheep?
Just how much of what George Bush has told you is wrong? How much of it was lies? And how much of it did you follow right to the ends of the earth?
There's nothing wrong with Social Security, and there's no evidence to back his claims. Furthermore, his new agenda won't even address the problems he claims are so imminent.
The war in Iraq was total bullshit. They ADMITTED to that.
You say we're fighting Islamic fundamentalists, so that justifies going into Iraq? Might as well blow the whole Middle East off the face of the earth, if that's your reasoning. You've been suckered into believing that Islam and Islamic radicals are one in the same. You're the sheep. Baa fucken baa.
And as for the idea that the minorities chose Bush over Kerry because they "saw the light..." Wake up. There have been countless PERSONAL reports of people in urban areas (read: areas with the most minorities) being told that the polls would be open tomorrow, so they could skip out on the long lines tonight. The polls weren't open tomorrow.
There were too few polling places in the critical urban areas. People were denied the ability to vote. Right wing representatives stopped people at the polls and checked their registrations. Thousands were re-directed to different counties, when they were in the right place all along. This isn't lies, this isn't even a few isolated cases--THIS WAS WIDESPREAD.
The Bush white house stole two elections in a row, and all the fans can do is be smug about it. Many of the uneducated voters responded to "moral values." The religious right came out in droves, record numbers, to elect George Bush on the platforms of banning gay marriage and life-saving stem cell research.
The Republicans ARE the party of the rich. Remember how we didn't sign that "pussy" Kyoto agreement to regulate greenhouse gasses and pollution? Well Bush loosened restrictions on the amount of pollution chemical plants can pour into the atmosphere, and his administration scientists deny the existence of global warming. Take a look at this and tell me there's no global warming. If things continue at this rate, the world really IS coming to an end.
Not to mention global conflict. While ignoring the solid threat of North Korea's nukes and dismissing Kim Jong Il (or as Bush famously called him, "Kim Jong the second"), as a "loathsome dictator." Where did Condy learn diplomacy?! These guys really DO have nukes. Iraq didn't, as the administration admitted after TWO Chief Weapons Inspectors resigned with the same conviction: there are none, nor had there been.
Now we're charging on up against Syria. Laugh your way right into the draft, amsterdam. What's that, you say? Bush said there would be no draft, and you believe him, you say? Well that's just dandy. Because Bush has NEVER lied to the American populace and then gone back on his word *cough*war*end cough*.
And it's not just this generation that will be turned into soldiers, it's the next. No Child Left Behind is not only under-funded, but based on a flawed program that didn't work in Texas, either. The standards of education are lowered for the next generation of unfortunate youngsters. And where are they forced to turn for help getting a college education? The military! Well, fuck education, because they'll be going off to Iraq and Syria and North Korea as well. With estimates from white house generals running as high as another ten years in Iraq alone, us tree-hugging faggots can kiss our world peace goodbye.
Congratulations, Republitards. You won. You took the meaning of the American dream and perverted it to your own flawed standards. You capitalized on the ignorance of the American populace, and pulled the wool over their eyes with the power of religion and morality. You've established a fascist theocracy that gets whatever it wants. You won.
And the whole world lost.
Not to mention the extremely suspicious electronic voting booth errors in both the most important (this last election) swing states, Ohio, and Florida. And the fact that the only ones who can check these electronic votes are the companies that made them, and the largest producer of these electronic voting booths CEO has said publicly he supports the bush administration, and donated money to their campaign. The security of these new electronic voting booths is a joke, they dont even make a hard copy (paper) of the votes, just in case someone did try to tamper with the votes.
It also amazes me that a guy who calls himself amsterdam can really think this way. When I first came to these boards, and encountered one of Torog's posts, I assumed it was a joke. I didn't think anyone on a cannabis-oriented website could say those things.
But Amsterdam! Amsterdam is the world capital of peace, love and understanding! Not just for its weed freedom, but for its legally protected gay rights and free speech laws.
Boggles the mind.
i agree with pisshead.. i havent even read what he said.
HAAAAAAAAAA... I just love it when the silly libs keep thinking that Republicans "are full of a diverse group of people, the rich, the greedy, uneducated/religious, racists, rednecks, homophobics".
Yup, just keep thinking that way.... and you wont win the Whitehouse again for another 100 years.
Howdy DJ,
You exclaim:" When I first came to these boards, and encountered one of Torog's posts, I assumed it was a joke. I didn't think anyone on a cannabis-oriented website could say those things. "
I am a Christian,a veteran and I love America..just because I smoke weed,doesn't mean that I have to give up my beliefs or throw away my morality. You're surrounded by liberals who hate America,Christianity and those who despise the military and the volunteers that join. I'm surrounded by those who believe just the opposite..it boggles my mind,that you believe the way that you do..so I reckon,that we will just have to agree to disagree..cause there ain't a dang thing you can do,to change my mind..and I probably can't change your's either.
Howdy Brammy,Quote:
Originally Posted by Brammy
That's a big 10-4 ! The treatment of Colin Powell and Condi Rice,at the hands of liberals,has been extremely racist and insulting..so much for the compasionate,non-racist Left. You'd think,that liberal teachers would hold up Powell and Rice,as good role models for black kids,but they ain't..instead..the teachers are painting Powell as an Uncle Tom,and Rice as an Aunt Jemimah..that's pretty daggum sad. There's been talk of a Rice vs klintoon,presidential race in '08..I can only imagine,that many blacks,that have been with the democrappers,would switch parties and vote for Rice...I would..oops,I forgot-I'm supposed to be a racist redneck..that would never vote for a black person..how can that be ?
Have a good one....
1. You accuse me of hating America. I don't hate America, and never said so. I hate the direction it's going in, and I hate the way it's being run. I feel strongly about it because I LOVE living in America, and I don't like to see these things happen that I believe are detrimental to the country. Clearly you think otherwise, and like you said, there's no way either of us is going to change each other's minds about it.
2. I don't hate Christianity either. I may not attend church, but I've attended a heavily religious school and received a full education of the bible. I believe that while the core ideals of the bible stand true, and are worth upholding, some are outdated and unrealistic. I choose to see the bible as a collection of stories that guide you to living a good life. I also see it as nothing more than a collection of stories, and its word is not entirely infallible. I don't believe anything as natural as homosexuality, for example, can be a sin. I think it's a sin to describe it as a sin, and act as such.
3. I don't hate the military, I hate the WAR. After 9/11, I considered doing my small part (I'm too young to serve) to help the effort to find Osama bin Laden and the terrorists that wage jihad on American values. That changed with Iraq. I think American values are worth defending. I also think what you view as American values are different from what I do. Your values incorporate a heavy amount of religious interperetation that I simply do not feel is appropriate. I feel that our army is fighting for the wrong values.
4. I don't hate the volunteers. I respect the volunteers, but I disagree with them. Like I said, my set of values differs heavily from yours.
I refuse to accept the logic of "Love it or leave it." America is great for its capacity to change and to bring unity. Thanks to the civil rights movement of the 60s, for example, we're not nearly as racially divided as we once were. I see Martin Luther King as one of the great Americans in the history of the country. He objected to how the country was run, he fought for his beliefs, and he brought on change that made millions of peoples' lives infinitely better. (Clearly you are not racist, as you've said many times, and I'm not accusing you of that.) I think that if I truly love America, I should do everything in my power to help it develop for the better.
And to the other comments about Condi and Powell--
Just because they're minorities doesn't mean we have to accept what they do. That would be taking the wrong approach from step one. I, and many others, object to their VIEWS and their ACTIONS, not the color of their skin. The ability to object to them on the basis of their ideas is part of the true development of racial equality. To imply otherwise is to impose a double standard.
Ditto Gonzales. Nobody objects to him because he's hispanic. We object to him because he fought to sanction torture by differentiating the prisoners at Abu Gharaib from any other prisoners of war, as well as loosening the definition of torture to potentially lethal force. A lot of pain can be caused before someone's life is in danger. Nobody will die from having their fingernails pulled off. But I'm getting sidetracked.
Like you said, we'll have to agree to disagree. I see you as having your heart in the right place, but carrying very warped views on the same core values that I believe in.
Well, just promise not to hate everyone in this country. The election results were pretty close, as you remember.
Howdy DJ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Justice
1. I'm glad that you love America and are willing to fight for what you think is right,there is a need,to balance out the Right and achieve compromises that benefit everyone. I too,disagree with the direction things are headed,but from a conservative Christian view-point,I oppose gay marriage,but would accept civil unions with partner benefits,I oppose abortion clinics on every corner,I oppose the sexualization of our children,at the hands of liberals and radical gays,etc.
2. I don't mean to be offensive,but the fact is,is that the Human species,reproduces heterosexually..not homosexually-therefore,homosexuality,can never be a 'natural' aspect of Humanity. I'm glad that you've been exposed to the Gospel of Jesus Christ..it's a shame that the amoral confusion of liberalism,has led you so far away from your Father,God, and your Saviour,Jesus Christ..the Son of God.
3. If you don't support the mission of the troops-you don't support the troops..the troops believe in their mission,and because of their courage and hard work,women can now vote and participate,in the governance of Afghanistan and Iraq..why would you deny them their freedom and equality ?
While you may not be calling Powell and Rice,ethnic slurs,the liberal elite and the liberal media,is..and it's despicable and shameful,they should be held up as examples for black children..but because they've decided not to be liberals,the Left is assasinating their characters instead..SHAME !!!
I am honored to call them my fellow Americans..and it ain't because they're on the Right-it's because of what they've achieved in their lives.
Have a good one...
i doubt black people would vote for someone just cause there black, that would be pretty ignorant. yes condi rice is black but she's also a saber-rattling neo-con, i doubt a message of bigger tax cuts for the middle class and more american graveyards on another mans soil, would resinate well in urban areas. i dont mind powell, you say liberals have mistreated him, look at his treatment at the hands of rumsfield, he was ignored tottaly and bush just used him as a friendly face to deal with the u.n.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Condi is a fuckup and a liar, she said publically that she and the rest of the bush administration didn't receive a memo saying Bin Laden determined to attack the US, when in fact they had but never did a damn thing about it, even though at the time Rice was the national security advisor. Then she had the nerve to say "Had we thought that there was an attack coming in Washington or New York, we would have moved heaven and earth to try and stop it," I mean come on, what more proof did they need to decide there was going to be an attack? They certainly had more intelligence on that than they had on Iraqs supposed WMD's, and we went to war for over those WMD's. So why didn't they take action? Maybe because Rice is a complete incompetent when it comes to national security.
I think she was hired because she is a black woman... The republicans want to seem like they support minorities and womans rights, so they hire obedient little Condi to do there bidding. This is sort of ironic, because while Rice was Provost at Stanford University, she "consistently failed to address serious issues regarding minority and women hiring practices." and weakened funding for various campus groups and programs that addressed the needs of woman and minorities.
That memo you talk about was even titled "Bin Laden plans to attack on US soil" or something like that lol
Howdy juggalo420,Quote:
Originally Posted by juggalo420
You may doubt that Black folks woul vote for someone,just because they're Black..however..many Blacks vote for the Dims,because the Dims always promise them massive entitlements..it's time for Black folks,to stop voting for white,liberal,snobby elitists,who promise everything-but deliver nothing. This is sometimes referred to as the "plantation mentality"..always hanging on for a few crumbs..it's time for that to stop. If either,Rice or Powell,ran for president-I'd vote for them. The color of their skin,has nothing to do with anything..it's by the merit of their own character-that matters here..apparently..the color of their skin,does matter to democrappers.
Bush's tax cuts,help the mom and pop,small business's,many of them owned by minorities,whereas the democrappers,want to put them out of business.
Have a good one....
Well aren't you the enlightened liberal.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
But in another post you say you hate muslims just because they're muslims... :confused:
Howdy FLESH,Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
I hope that I didn't,I want to give em the benefit of the doubt first,for them to show that they are on the side of democratic freedom and equality for all.
" Well aren't you the enlightened liberal.... " Shhhhh..don't tell my redneck friends..lol.
Have a good one....:D
one thing that amuses me is stupid americans^^^^like that one vote for the prez who protects the rich. while middle and low class amerians work their ass off they pay 40% taxes. rich poeple only pay 20% thats great isnt it!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA dumbasses.
I don't know how many times I have to tell you Torog, but every species in nature (including humans) uses Homosexuality as a biological response to over population.
Natural as defined in all ways means "occuring in nature" guess what it occurs EVERYWHERE in nature, thus is natural....I keep telling ya but you keep ignoring it. Go ahead look it up....
hes very hard headed if you havent noticed. no matter what the facts are, what the govt tells him isRIGHT!!!! RIGHT!????
Why do they have to be on the side of democratic freedom and equality? Why is it your call? They are their own people and they have been shown to have a rich, beautiful culture that also has a history of bloodshed and horrors, as with any country. America is no different, but it does not make America a "bad" country. Want them to be on the side of democracy? Maybe they'll think about it if the biggest Democratic country in the world stops bombing the crap out of them for no apparent reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Homosexuality occurs naturally in nature, regardless of population.Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdo79
Stedric every biologist on the planet would disagree , I'll take their word first thanks ;), as would every zoologist. It's not random at all (which would be inferred by your statement). Some species can even become Transexual and all of it is a direct result of overpopulation. Or lack of "females" or "males" in the case of transexuals. If I read your statement wrong please clarify me ;). (also in every biology course I took in university thats what we were taught if you have a more learned perspective then the biologists I would be willing to listen).