I usually don't watch the factor but I'll probably make an exception today
what do you guys think will happen, will he hold his own or will o'reilly tear him a new one?
either way it will be interesting:D
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I usually don't watch the factor but I'll probably make an exception today
what do you guys think will happen, will he hold his own or will o'reilly tear him a new one?
either way it will be interesting:D
I think Obama will do very well. O'Reilly isn't that aggressive when interviewing mainstream politicians - especially ones that could be elected the next president.
lol this will be probably the only episode of bill oreily i would like to hear about!Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
i just wanna see how the two personalities can sit face to face or what will be said and how it will be said!
When???
Edit::::: nvm I found out
God I can't stand Bill O'Reilly.. but this is one episode I won't miss.
Washington Wire - WSJ.com : Obama to Appear on Oâ??Reilly Factor ThursdayQuote:
Originally Posted by SunnyD
what would be cool, is if obama did to o'reilly, what jon stewart did to the cossfire "news team."
YouTube - Jon Stewart on Crossfire.
take 'em down a couple a pegs, but be civil about it, that way they can't throw it back in your face. go get 'im!
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Nail, head, I think you hit it. I bet this will not be as eventful as it should be. Although, today Obama did take questions from the press after the interview, and he did not seem very happy. Who knows, we will see.:wtf:
Unfortunately I think Jon Stewart is much wittier and a quicker thinker than Obama could ever hope to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by MIDNIGHTspecial
Another good Jon Stewart interview to check out is the one he did for Cspan. Great stuff.
O'Reilly is a hack, but he tends to back off his "jerk factor" a bit when he has prominent politicians on. I think Obama is smart enough to handle him, and it will be less exciting than it could be. It adds to your credibility I think if you do interviews, especially if you do them with hostile interviewers. It's probably a good move on Obama's part. I hope all the candidates do some decent interviews --- it's almost more revealing than some of the debates if you get a good interviewer. If I can be home at that time, I'll watch it.
My biggest fear is if O'Reilly does take it easy on him because he's a well known politician. Then every supporter will be screaming from the rooftops about how Obama threw down against O'Reilly when it's really the fact that good ole' papa bear is actually being controlled in the background.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
They will praise Obama for something that may not even be Praise worthy.
true. O'Reilly better be business as usual! lol now that will be a heck of a show to watch and will make headlines!!Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
honestly that's the show I want to watch.. LOL.. not because I like O'Reilly (ugh I hate the guy).. but mostly because I feel like being entertained and watching the Radical Right Winger border line racist O'Reilly against Obama would just be amusing to watch (just because of the craziness that it would be.. my god could you imagine?).Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingimam
I'm sure we'll all be talking about this later tonight after it airs :jointsmile:
I didn't really mean he backs off on the type of questioning he does, more that he is a bit less douchebaggy when it is someone worthy of some respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
I just watched the interview, and he WAS a bit less douchebaggy than I remember (it's been a long time since I watched the Factor). I thought they were pretty good questions and pretty good answers.
O'Reilly asked him if he thought we were in really engaged in a War On Terror. Obama said absolutely yes.
O'Reilly asked him how much of a threat Iran is and how far Obama would go to prevent Iran from getting The Bomb. Obama said Iran is a threat and said he would not preclude military action to prevent them getting the Bomb, but also said he thought there was much more to do diplomatically. O'Reilly said he thought diplomacy would probably fail and wanted to know specifically what the Plan B would be. Obama said again he would not take military options off the table, but he declined to say specifically what military options would be open --- bombing, invasion, etc. When O'Reilly pressed him on it, he said it would not be appropriate as a candidate to tip his hand about specifically what measures he might take, and O'Reilly let it go at that.
O'Reilly aksed about Iraq. O'Reilly said that he agreed with Obama that Iraq was "the wrong battelfield" and he agreed that there were no terrorists there until after the invasion, but then said the surge has worked and he asked whether Obama was wrong to oppose the surge. Obama said the he agreed the surge had succeeded better than he or anyone had imagined it would, including Bush. But he did not say that he was wrong to oppose it. His argument was that the surge had reduced the violence and had brought some stability, but the purpose of the surge at the time was to allow the Iraqis to take control of their country, and they have not been able to do so yet. They went back and forth on this a few times with Obama agreeing that the surge had had it's good results but not that it had "succeeded" or that he was "wrong."
The last toipic was Pakistan. O'Reily referenced Obama's speech in which he said McCain would not follow Bin Laden into the cave where he lives, and asked what Obama would do differently with Pakistan to "get" Bin Laden if that is where he is. Obama said he thought that we could use the military aid we give Pakistan to pressure them to do more. He said that he thought we had not attached enough strings to the $10 billion we had given Musharraf, and that most of the money had been used by Pakistan to arm for war against India.
All-in-all it was a decent interview. The crappy thing is that the interview is being broken into segemnts and now I'm going to have to watch the freakin' Factor Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next week.
Mostly I agreed with Obama's responses. We are definietly in a War on Terror. Iran is a threat and we need to take nothing off the table militarily when dealing with them, but we need to pursue diplomacy more aggressively. We need to put more pressure on Pakistan.
The surge is the one area I'm not in complete agreement. I agree that it has worked to some degree, but I also agree it has not succeeded by the measures set out at the time. I do think the surge was the right thing to do. Long before the surge, I thought we either needed to go all out and win or get the hell out --- one or the other. I favored going all out, but if we weren't going to do that, then I didn't think we should just accept the half effort and slow bleeding. I see why he won't say he was "wrong," seeing as his option was never tried, and the surge has not succeeded by it's original benchmarks, but I do think the surge was right.
a VERY well-written piece, dragonrider ! ... kudos for being informative, explanatory, and unbiased ... good reading material :thumbsup:
My concern here is that Fox News may "creatively" edit the interview to make Obama say something he does not mean or put him in a certain light. If they had shown the unedited interview I would be less skeptical.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
yeah that is a concern!Quote:
Originally Posted by moebius420
I luv live feed!!
Here it is for those who missed it:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luA0AMP51Gc[/YOUTUBE]
Have a good one!:s4:
I'm surprised, that was actually pretty good. Although I am stunned that he still sticks by what he says about the surge. He won't acknowledge being wrong. It was never the intent of the surge to help Iraqis take more responsibility, it was to drive the terrorists out and create safety so they could get this country off the ground THEN the iraqi's could take responsibility for themselves and they slowly but surely have been taking more and more responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I am confused how he can still say that he was right.
I saw it and agreed with Obama on practically all points, suprising i know me being a loony liberal, not saying anyone's saying that but me by the way :stoned: I don't know in such circumstances as surges that there are clear defined concepts such as victory, right, or wrong, in war there are no winners only survivors. Well, blahdee blah i guess you can make people sign documents and treaties and surrender but is this victory really such in a holistic view. Wtf am i babbling about lol, perhaps new enemies arise as dark phoenixes, when you cut their head, they divide and multiply. When will there be peace, has there ever been? Who am i talking to? How can there be peace when there is so much domination? Why don't they just freakin legalize it already so i can write more crap like this?
I look forward to the next parts :rastasmoke:
He never specifically said that he was right, and he did say the surge has been successful. He was saying that his recent criticism of it stemmed from the fact that the Iraqi government hasn't stepped up. Also, he said that he initially didn't support the surge because of the mismanagement of the war prior to that, but that the generals had really improved the way the war was being handled in recent months.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
Still, the surge stabilized Iraq at the expense of destabilizing Afghanistan, which is where the Taliban actually is.
That's true, but I rather us not make the same mistake we made in afghanistan by leaving a job half done as it is. You know? If we're going to do something I'd rather we do it right. I'm still pissed that we ever left Afghanistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by khronik
Yeah, but those troops for the surge had to come from somewhere; the unfortunate thing is that a lot of them came from Afghanistan, and now the situation is worse there. We had a lot more foreign assistance in Afghanistan, which is perhaps why we thought we could afford to pull some troops out. But with the US's current international image, I don't think anyone's looking to do us any favors.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
This all makes Bill O'Reilly's insistence that Obama admit he was wrong to not support the surge seem kind of silly.
I can't believe I have the O'Reilly Factor scheduled on my DVR. It never would have occurred to me that this would even be possible. I want to see the other 3 parts of the interview enough that I have actually set up to record a show I cannot stand.
The first one was pretty good. The one I definitely do not want to miss is on Tuesday, and it deals with all the crazy people Obama supposedly associates with --- Wright, Ayers, Retzko, et al. That should be good.
I think it enhances Obama's credibilty significantly that he is not afraid to be interviewed by supposedly "hostile" interviewers. (It's not bad for O'Reilly's credibility either.)
Apparently responding to criticism about liberal political bias, MSNBC has removed its two political hot-potato co-anchors, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, from the network's election coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
Is MSNBC right to demote Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews? | The Dish Rag | Los Angeles Times
TVNewser reports that Fox News Channel had 8 of the top 10 highest rated programs on cable news during the month of January. Leading that charge was The O'Reilly Factor, which took both the #1 (the 8PM original broadcast) and the #7 (the 11PM repeat) spots.
Below, the 20 top ranked shows for January, according to Nielsen Media Research:
1. The O'Reilly Factor (Fox)
2. Hannity & Colmes (Fox)
3. The Fox Report with Shep Smith (Fox)
4. Special Report with Brit Hume (Fox)
5. On The Record with Greta Van Susteren (Fox)
6. Americas Newsroom (Fox)
7. The O'Reilly Factor (Repeat) (Fox)
8. Larry King Live (CNN)
9. The Big Story with John Gibson (Fox)
10. Lou Dobbs Tonight (CNN)
11. Studio B with Shep Smith (Fox)
12. Your World with Neil Cavuto (Fox)
13. Happening Now (Fox)
14. Fox And Friends (Fox)
15. Live Desk with Martha MacCallum (Fox)
16. Americas Pulse (Fox)
17. Anderson Cooper 360 (CNN)
18, Out In The Open (CNN)
19. Countdown with Keith Olbermann (MSNBC)
20. CNN Election Center (CNN)
O'Reilly Headlines Fox News' Big January Ratings Win
I think that O'Reilly is holding his own against the media's favorite left wingers such as the two that were just demoted. As for Obama, he uses FOX news when in a pinch. They can't debate on FOX but when the polls say that they're in trouble they're more than happy to appear; Like when he was on Fox News Sunday.
His first day just happened to be on the night McCain was to make his speech. Trying to steel the thunder but according to recent polls it didn't work out that way. Lets see what shift they take after the 4 part interview is over with. Hell, he might even of been the cause of McCain having the largest viewing audience out of all the candidates. BACKFIRE!!
Ya know, I watch Hannity, O'Reilly, Olberman, etc. to try to get a balanced view, or maybe different perspectives. Hannity, far right....Olberman, far left; you know who these people are voting for. With O'Reilly, I've seen him come to the defense of Obama against the right on his show more than once. He's as much of a fan of the right wing as McCain; somebody that might swing to the right on issues but sure is a pain in the ass!
Nice to hear that your giving your DVR a break though....like they say, "treat your equipment well and it will treat you well.". :thumbsup:
Oh yeah, I'll be posting up the interview via You-Tube as soon as it's posted and I get a chance.
Have a good one!:s4:
I can't believe Olbermans been demoted, that guy is hilarious and puts Billo in his place. Well, actually i do believe it, the country's run by republicans.
I had this funny moment when I was watching this interview on the O'Reilly Factor last week.
I was watching the show live, and then there was this knock on the door. I paused the show to get the door, and it paused on this really tight shot of O'Reilly, with his head HUGE on the bigscreen. I was actually opening the door when all of a sudden I thought, "Holy crap! What if it's one of my in-laws from down the street!" They are hard-core Dems, very active in the party. I know they have always suspected me of being a closet conservative, because I have an open mind and am willing to give conservatives their points when I do agree. Man, if they found out I was watching The O'Reilly Factor, they would probably freak out and never trust me again! Anyway, it was just some guy trying to sell a roofing service --- lucky for me.
What difference would it make which way you lean? The way I see it my if someone doesn't like my perspective in politics... well that's their problem not mine. I will try to explain my point of view to them but I don't ever worry if someone thinks I'm conservative or liberal.. annoyed sure, but care... not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
I have no shame in my beliefs.
I don't think the timing of the airing of the interview was Obama's choice or an attempt to "steel the thunder." That was up to the show. It was actually taped on a different day, wasn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I almost always watch CNN, which I do not think is very biased. But someone mentioned how funny it was to flip between FOX and MSNBC for the conventions, so I started doing that. It is surprisiong how biased they both are. CNN had pretty much neutral reporters running their coverage, with biased pundits from both sides and even campaign people from both sides there in a secondary role for biased analysis. It seemd pretty balanced. But both FOX and MSNBC had their coverage HEADED UP by their opinion people. They had analysts from both sides, but the lead anchors for the convention shows were people who run their own biased opinion shows, not even pretending to be neutral reporters. I thought that was wierd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
LMFAO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
How many times have I told you "better be careful, they are going to kick you out of the club!" Things like having an "open mind" and ever, ever, agreeing with anything a conservative may say ARE NOT TOLERATED BY REAL DEMOCRATS!!! I keep telling you, they are gonna find out, you will be the next Lieberman!:D (Just wait till you go to vote and Obama's wife is standing there at your voting booth, tapping her feet with her arms crossed, eyeballing you!)
I can picture your face 2 steps from the door when you realize "holy shit!"
P.S.
You know how I can tell you are a closet conservative?:D
YOU DVR'D O'REILLY!
HISSSSSSSSSS! OOOOOOOOOOOOH! JEEEEEEEEEEEER! TSK TSK TSK, SHAKING HEAD LOOKING DOWN!
Ha ha! I don't have any shame in my beliefs either, and really it would not have been a problem. But I had that momentary FLASH of seeing the look on my brother-in-law's face if he came into the room and saw a three-foot-tall image of Bill O'Reilly's face frozen there on the TV. *I* don't like O'Reilly that much and would have felt the need to explain why I was watching a show I don't even like that much, sort of the same embarrassment I would have if someone saw me watching "Dancing with the Stars." It would have been fine, but I would have probably had to put up with being ribbed about it at family barbeques for the rest of my life. If you knew the family dynamic, you'd see the humor in the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
Actually, even these family members who are much more partisan in their politics are not "liberals" in the normal sense of the word. The brother-in-law is a small business owner, loves off-roading through the winderness, loves owning and shooting very powerful guns, ambivalent about things like gay marriage. He's a very partisan Democrat that comes from his family tradition of supporting Democrats during the civil rights days, working-class roots, economic policies, and kitchen table issues like healthcare. He's more conservative about things like gun ownership and environmental regulation. I come to the Democratic party for totally different reasons, like envoronmental reponsibility. I'm conservative on other things like fiscal responsibility. He's just very partisan in his support, despite disagreeing with the Democrats on some issues, and he likes liberal commentators like Oberman.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
Nope, same day. I recall that because after the interview it was said that O'Reilly was jetting to the convention for McCains speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
Have a good one!:s4: