New and Improved: Featuring Sour Northern Lights x Nevilles Haze

Time to start the new grow. Vegging is always boring so there probably won't be too many updates in here until flowering starts. I hope to start flowering in about 5 weeks.

Currently I have 12 seeds sitting in a cup of water. These seeds came from a hermie but I'll have my handy dandy bottle of reverse on hand. The plant these came from hermied due to light leaks, which I have a completely sealed cabinet so this should not be a problem; and the reverse is for good measure.

I'll post some pics after the seeds break through the soil in a few days.

Does anyone have any experience with this strain? How does it smoke? How strong is it? How bad is the odor during veg? How much did you yield per watt/lumen?

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Just read through your last grow to get some background.
Impressive first grow man.
I hope this one will be as successful.

I'm here for the ride. Good luck.

Puffzter

never tried the strain but sure sounds tasty.....Daihashi... who the breeder on those beans.....the combo sound to good to pass up! well anyways good luck on this grow!

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Originally Posted by killa12345

never tried the strain but sure sounds tasty.....Daihashi... who the breeder on those beans.....the combo sound to good to pass up! well anyways good luck on this grow!

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I'm not sure of the breeder as I got these from a friend. A quick google search tells me "X-Line", so I'm not sure if that's the name of the breeder or if seed banks call all crosses "X-line".

Thanks, I think I've decided on growing in CoCo this time around with all Canna products.

Does anyone here know anything about CoCo and Calcium. I've read that it can interfere with the uptake of calcium to the actual plant.

IT can be a MONSTER of a plant!!! Someone on here even got 18oz of ONE plant!!! I had a porblem with my 2, but I will be planting more...Weird leafs seem to be the norm with it too.
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all 12 of the seeds after soaking in the cup for about 15 hours or so have sunk. I've taken them out of the cup and put them in a moist paper towel until they crack.

Hopefully they'll crack in the next day or two and I can transplant them into their rapid rooters. :thumbsup:

hey man i am growing a northern lights * haze strain and im about 7 weeks into veg. ill be flowering when i get back from vegas nxt tues. its a beautiful plant. check out my log. there is a link in my sig. good luck with ur grow.

daihashi, it's been awhile, my friend! Glad to see you've got another grow growin'. And, this one sounds like it will be a doozy - 12 beans of Sour NL x NH; you've got to like the NH. I've got a Colombian Red Haze (Colombian Red x Neville's Haze) brewing outside as we speak.

I'm looking forward to your log and seeing those mighty fine beans break through the soil to stretch out their cotyledons! I'd wish you good luck, but know you don't need it! Have a great weekend, amigo! Aloha

7 out of 12 seeds have popped.

Well let me rephrase that, all seeds have cracked open and 7 out of 12 have a tiny bit of their taproot exposed. These will probably all be ready to transfer into their rapid rooters by tomorrow morning.

So here are the specs of this grow:

• 11-12 Plants/seeds
  

• 400 Watt MH @ 7200K (vegging)
  

• 600 or 1000 Watt HPS (for Flowering, haven't decided yet.)
  
• 1 6" 424 CFM inline fan with carbon filter for Veg area, Hooked up through a cooltube with one end open so it is exhausting both the light and the area. Exhausting through a carbon filter

• 2 6" 424 CFM inline fans for Flower area. 1 dedicated to a completely enclose Cooltube, and the other exhausting the entire room through a carbon filter.
  
• Distilled Water at 5.8 - 5.9 PH (for the first 3 weeks of veg I will be using tap water. Distilled water is too hard to PH without first adding CalMag, which contains nutes, or something to kind of buffer the PHdown.)
  
• Canna COCO plant medium
  
• Canna CoCo A/B nute set (Veg/Flower)
  
• Canna PK 13-14 booster
  
• CalMag+
  
• Canna Boost (this seems to be pretty much like using Sweet to me. Since I'm going all Canna products this time around I think I'll use their version of 'Sweet')

For Plant/root health:

• Canna Rhizotonic
  
• Cannazym

Tools:

• Thermometer/Hygrometer
  
• EC/PPM meter
  
• PH Meter

Here is a pic of 9 seeds that popped and showed their tap roots. I put them in rapid rooters that have been soaking in water ph'd at 5.9 and then covered the holes up top with a little bit of Canna COCO. This is to help keep the tap root humid and to help prevent the rapid rooter from drying out so quickly

They are under 3 CFL's for now and will will probably remain there the first 3-6 days or so after they break soil. After which I will put them under the MH lighting.

9 out of 12 have popped through the rapid rooters. 3 out of 12 seemed to have died off. Tap roots came out but then went back into it's hull never to be seen again. I'm guessing maybe the rapid rooters weren't warm enough for them or maybe germination wasn't warm enough in the towel.

Someone posted that these plants have weird leaves and they're right. 1 of the plants was born with it's cotyledon leaves but only 1 true leaf :wtf:
Two of the plants that has popped only shows the cotyledons and no true leaves. Really weird! :wtf:

The other 6 plants look somewhat normal. Hopefully they outgrow this funkyness soon. I'm going to try to put them under the MH light starting Saturday morning. Hopefully the root system will be built enough to be able to handle it.

We'll see, if nothing else I have like 16 more beans. :thumbsup:

I'll post pics up tonight of the funkyness.

I gotta lot of weird growth outta these seeds...Odd shaped leaves...weird growth patterns...Didn't seem to affect actual growth much at all...At least on the ones that survived...lol
A lot of them didn't make it...but when you get a couple that do....SOOO worth it
whiskeytango

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I gotta lot of weird growth outta these seeds...Odd shaped leaves...weird growth patterns...Didn't seem to affect actual growth much at all...At least on the ones that survived...lol
A lot of them didn't make it...but when you get a couple that do....SOOO worth it
whiskeytango

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well, I have 4-6 that look like they'll make it.. no problem. I may start germinating about 6 more beans. I really wanted to have 12 plants minimum this time around since i'll be doing SOG probably. I figure about 1-2 oz per plant (this is assuming I some how screw things up.. I've heard this plant yields pretty good, which will give me plenty to smoke and help out some of my Sick buddies with :jointsmile:

Sounds like a very interesting strain. Might be a bit tall for my grow area but if you don't mind, I'd like to follow along on your grow and see how it goes.

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Originally Posted by McToker

Sounds like a very interesting strain. Might be a bit tall for my grow area but if you don't mind, I'd like to follow along on your grow and see how it goes.

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The more the merrier! I'd be more than happy to have you follow along with this log. Thanks for checking in!

Not sure this strain is good for SOG...seems that the others that have grown it on here, it seems to be a monster bush strain...Think WH has grown this a few times...lol Ask her about SOG for it...
whiskeytango

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Originally Posted by SnSstealth

Not sure this strain is good for SOG...seems that the others that have grown it on here, it seems to be a monster bush strain...Think WH has grown this a few times...lol Ask her about SOG for it...
whiskeytango

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll see if I can find some of her logs on it. :hippy:

Put 6 more seeds into a cup to pop before I transfer to a towel or rapid rooter.

Here is a pic of he current 9 plants and some of their funkyness. I have 4 that look completely normal and the rest look a little like odd balls.

I'm with Stealth.....I've had some FUNKIES with these seeds but also some nice ones so it's kind of up for grabs.......hope you get a bunch of good growers in your group. :)

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I'm with Stealth.....I've had some FUNKIES with these seeds but also some nice ones so it's kind of up for grabs.......hope you get a bunch of good growers in your group. :)

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What did you do with the funky ones? Did they ever grow into themselves?

Yes some did.....but never really flourished so if you're pushed for space....dump them first. ;)

With what we have learned, Ill be popping maybe 7-8 beans this go round to have 3-4 keepers. You will notice the wackiness pretty soon, and like WH said, I would just cull em.
whiskeytango

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Yes some did.....but never really flourished so if you're pushed for space....dump them first. ;)

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Not really pushedfor space.. more pushed for time. So I'll probably dump them if they don't pick up the pace in 3-4 days. I've got 6 more seeds germinating in the mean time.

Thanks for the heads up :) :thumbsup:

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Yup, I'm tuning in to your log too. Best of luck, Bub.

bleh.. so It looks like I have 1 decent/normal plant out of 11 seeds.

I have 3 others that look normal but have blackening around the edges of the leaves and the new leaves are coming out kind of greyish/black and the remaining 7 plants are deformed in some way.

I have 3 from the 6 I germinated sprouting and I have 3 more in the rapid rooters waiting to sprout. Hopefully I'll have some winners in that bunch.

I may have to change my plans this grow incase things don't work out. I may just LST with some liquid light and make a really good mother to where I can get 20 cuttings at one time, let them root very well, then let them veg for 2 weeks before doing a SOG flower.

As long as I can get at least 1 good plant from this I'll be happy because I can make plenty more after that.

Dai can you put up a photo? That sounds wrong....even with junk seeds. You should get at least half good ones.

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Dai can you put up a photo? That sounds wrong....even with junk seeds. You should get at least half good ones.

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I'll go grab one right now.

Dang it son I've lost your email.....email me if you still have mine.....;)

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Dang it son I've lost your email.....email me if you still have mine.....;)

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I'm sure I have it.. I have to find it. Here are some pics of the plants. All the seedlings in the rapid rooters are deformed. I couldn't get a good picture of them for some reason.

The other 6 pots have 4 plants that look normal but have weird black discoloration on them. 1 plant is just straight up deformed, and 1 plant looks like how I think they should look.

The close up in this one is how I believe they should all look. This one looks fairly healthy when compared to the rest of them.

FYI, I'm growing in Canna Coco presoaked in PH 6.0 water, watering once a day with ph 6.0 water.

There are no nutes in the coco, it is inert pretty much and will take on the ph properties of whatever you feed it. They say treat coco similar to hydro and I've been kind of been doing that following the guidelines at ICmag.

I don't know the EC of my water, I could move to distilled with calmag if needed though, I have both on hand.

Coco.....my mortal enemy. I know ZERO about coco. I swear that looks like a ph issue to me. Most of the time my kids crack looking normal.....and then funk up later.

I've always had the questions of this....are Rapid rooters hydro or soil? So are you supposed to use soil ph or hydro ph with them?

I've always used regular water when things are in RR....ph approximately 6.6.....not r o or distilled but I HAVE put them then into my hydro setup at baby age and then begun watering them with something along the ph of 5.7 and they do fine as well.

That just LOOKS like a ph issue to me. Perhaps try watering your kids with normal water but ph'd to 6.5-6.6 and see if it makes a difference.

There shouldn't be a nute issue at this stage....it has to be ph somehow.

STINKY!! :D

And if you can in some way.....check the runoff of the water from the rr's......just curious......

Some of those kids DO HAVE the funked up look I have come to know.

Hmmm.....I don't hold out alot of hope for those........unless someone else can spot the issue.....it COULD be the seeds with those tweaky looks.....

Send me an email when you have a chance. We may have to start over with something different than these sucky little devils.

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Coco.....my mortal enemy. I know ZERO about coco. I swear that looks like a ph issue to me. Most of the time my kids crack looking normal.....and then funk up later.

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I initially though PH also, but my run off checks out to be 6.0

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I've always had the questions of this....are Rapid rooters hydro or soil? So are you supposed to use soil ph or hydro ph with them?

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I've been told to treat it as hydro. While in the rapid rooters I feed with PH 5.9 water. I heard the roots really like it better in the RR.

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That just LOOKS like a ph issue to me. Perhaps try watering your kids with normal water but ph'd to 6.5-6.6 and see if it makes a difference.

There shouldn't be a nute issue at this stage....it has to be ph somehow.

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Definitely not nute related. If it wasn't for the history of the seeds I'd post this problem at ICmag but I would like to narrow down my problem somewhat before I go post pics of my mutated plants.. heh

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STINKY!! :D

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STINK!!!!!!! HALP! :hippy:

Also is it possible I introduced them to the MH too soon? They all seemed to have a pretty good root system built up in the Rapid Rooters.

They are approximately 9 days old from when the tap root first broke through the seed. They sat under CFLs for 6 days and friday evening I moved them under the MH.

Was this too premature? I did my entire Veg with CFL's last time so I'm not sure if I'm shocking them with too much light at once. They're under a 400 watt MH right now.

D...looks to me like your using Hydro Ph levels in soil. I have always kept my soil plants 6.7-7.0.But IMHO the Ph is way off....
Other than that, most of my SNLxNH also got the purpleish new growth, and funky grow patterns, wacked out leaves and such.
whiskeytango

I don't think it's you dai.....i think it may be your seeds and/or something about coco that I just don't know about. But I wouldn't put it past those buggers to just grow funky to make life hard......a good half of mine have been useless devils.

edit: I don't think it's your lighting but how far away from the mh are they? They don't look burned.....it's just looks like a ph thing. They're curly even for my freaky little devils

PS....you've recently calibrated your ph meter of course.......just typing out loud......:D

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Originally Posted by SnSstealth

D...looks to me like your using Hydro Ph levels in soil. I have always kept my soil plants 6.7-7.0.But IMHO the Ph is way off....
Other than that, most of my SNLxNH also got the purpleish new growth, and funky grow patterns, wacked out leaves and such.
whiskeytango

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Coco is technically goes by neither. This is from a sticky from ICmag in their Coco specific forum:

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i just thought it could be nice to start a thread with tips for growing in coco - but using handwatering and pots..

since im kind of busy i thought this could run on a question and answer basis - also if other growers feel like chipping in with their bit it would be cool.

first of with the do's and dont's:

• do check ur PH! - range from 5.5 to 6.5 works really well
• do make sure you use nutes specific for coco! - this will give the best results and easy of use.
• do make sure you use pots big enough for the watering intervals you want to have. bigger pots means less watering.
• do make sure you have some run off when watering. about 10-15% is enough.
• do make sure the coco never gets dry - this is a hydro medium. watering often gives better results.

DONT treat coco like a soil grow.



growing in coco gives great results outdoors also. it slightly more expensive than soil growing - but the end results will speak for them selves. huge yields and lots of flavour!

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