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Okay,So since it has been a year and no work,I was told by a freind that I should apply for ssi,So I did,Got a packet in the mail and when I was filling it out it asked what medications I am prescribed.....................
....I know I have a recommendation and not a prescription,BUt I dont put down That I use weed......you know.
Is anyone collecting DIssability here and had to do this before?
Should I just leave it alone and say I dont take anything?
hey sticky don't put down you smoke weed !!! that is a recomendation not a prescription !!! only put what you have scripts for !!
good luck on your ssi I filed 3 yrs ago and still have'nt got it. I believe they are stalling hoping I'll die before they approve it and at this rate it looks like I will unfortunately :mad:
thanks for the bit of info..
3 of our 4 children pull SSI. (low birth weight under 1000grams at birth)
I have wondered about the same thing, would my Obtaining a MMJ permit in CO mess with it..
My brother is handicapped and has full government benefits. The whole shebang!! IT was a huge hassle though. However after we finally hired a lawyer and wrote our congressmen it was like the flood gates opened and now we get whatever assistance we need. Sometimes it takes 8 months to get something done (like to install a wheel chair ramp and one of those motorized chair things to go up stairs).. but he gets money, medical benefits and any additional needs he may have.
So try getting yourself a lawyer... you'll gain much more in return if it works.
I lol'ed hard when I read veggii's post
you gotta be stoned man
umm.. maybe you're the one who's stoned. I understood his post perfectly :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by Snufufles
I recommend hiring a Social Security attorney ... doesn't cost you up front, they will get a percentage of your 'back pay' (I think my attorney wound up with something like $1300, well worth it) ... IF you have medical history and records, it goes smoothly ... (TIP: if you are in your 40s, etc., it usually sails right thru, they tend to fight or delay the young people, as they see paying out shitloads of $$$ over the years) ... I filed in May, and had my first S.S. Disability check in October ... never even had to go to a hearing (cause I'm so fucked up :thumbsup:) ... BTW: keep your MJ recommendation to yourself, while it shouldn't HURT your case, it definitely will not HELP it ... :jointsmile:
Sorry about the illness ( diseases can be cruel and mercyless
Id def hire a lawyer
The/your Doctor signs the SSDI papers and your on it
I'd def NOT tell them your an herb medicinal patient [Your Doc might know] mine knows through blood work Im sure.
They/some cant handle the thought of peeps getting RELIEF in this life
herbys a home remedy
Some home remedies are not legal..... yet
I would highly not recommend getting an attorney for SSI. Work your way up the Social Security administration latter. Social Security is something but not enough to get by on.
It's best to get a certified letter and medical records from your doctors stating that you are disabled and so on. Doctors can be very helpful in helping you obtain SSI benefits, especially if they have numerous other patients who are disabled.
It does take a long time to get SSI. It took my mom a long while.
Attorneys don't do anything magical or political when they "help" you get your SSI. Get your paperwork from your doctors(certified documents) and go to your local Social Security office. They're there to help you.
Tell them only what you have legal prescriptions for.
also
Ive read Doctors recieve special recognition [$$$] from the gov
if they have NO disabled patients or very few disabled patients
a lawyer friend of mine said
the Docs signature is the one that places you as totally and permanently disabled
dont expect to get SS for someone in a coma the gov. knows the fam will spend the $$
good luck
Have you actually gone through this process? I have for my handicapped brother and let me tell you, even if you get your paperwork straight yourself and get the signatures.. the government will still give you the run around. What a lawyer will do is make it so they can not blow you off so easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernGuerilla
Maybe you have gone through this and were fortunate enough to be able to handle it on you're own but it's a bit arrogant to assume that an SSI Lawyer is useless. I know first hand that it's actually contrary to what you say.
We did all of our work, we filed all our paperwork, we got all our signatures and still fought the system for years until we finally hired our own attorney.
Say what you want, but if I had to do it all over again I would contact a Lawyer and have them do it for me from the beginning.
WOW!
Thank you all for ytour replies! Very Much appreciated,I had just gotten my packet in the mail,I did a telephone interview sorta with this guy and now I have my packet.
I didnt realize how much of a hassle it is to get ssi,they seemed to have no hassle deducting it every paycheck from me,lol,I thought it would be the smae way,fill out some papers and get the benefits.lol
I dont have much money,for one I havent worked in a year and 2 we are moving up to Oregon in November,well,I am my family is going up in october and shipping our stuff is gonna be alot......I dont know if I could hire a lawyer..... : (
So I will not put that I use MJ ,lol....But I have no prescriptions for my chronic back pain.
What do I put? I have on record that I have been through tons of diffrent pain meds and none worked.......
I'll just do that and leave it blank.....Thanks you guys!!!!
I'm about 8 months into the process of filing for SSDI. They don't get told nothing about any cannabis use. So far my case has been going ok. Just slow but I knew it might take 2 years so I was prepared. Done everything myself so far but if my first application is turned down I'll get an SSI attorney.
It took 2-3years. That's why I say work up the SS ladder, or I said latter but meant ladder.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
You'll find someone without their thumb stuck up their ass or too busy to even acknowledge you.
Have you been prescribed oxycotin or ms cotin?Quote:
Originally Posted by StickyfingahZ
My mom is on one of those and says it still doesn't touch her sciatic nerve pain but it helps her from wanting to "rip someone's head off".
She also went to a bunch of different specialists who all but one said she'd be dead in 9months. They all wrote letters for her stating her disability. "Is disabled with no chance of recovery" . Something to that effect. I've known people who are not permanently disabled but still obtained SSI. They recover, go back to work, and get off SSI.
Once you get SSI you'll have to worry about someone reporting you for not actually being disabled(at least that's what they'll tell SS) then you have to get new paperwork from your doctors stating the same old crap. I think, or you resend your old paperwork and get a new letter from your doctor stating you're still disabled.
I can't remember exactly.
Bottom line it's your condition that makes you disabled or not. You just need medical professionals to state such.
I used to get prescribed Oxycontin and a bunch of other meds,like vicodin and percocet.Same like how you said your mom is ,The pain is still there but at least it aint so bad you wanna rip someones headoff,lol
I got 2 bones fusing together and torn discs,worn down disc and I cant stand or sit for extended periods.I cant driver for more than half an hour,stuff like that.If I could work I would,I dont like living on a fixed or limited income,but anything is better than nothing.
:( You'll get SSI with no problem other than it taking what seems like forever.
If you don't have copies of ALL of your medical records, you'll want to start obtaining them.
Ok since I can't remember anything, wonder why... :p My mom says it took her 9 months after she sent off the paperwork that she recieved SSI and "back pay".
Just a couple words of advice :). A family member is on SSI and also on a disability insurance from his work. They prescribe him 80mg oxy and 4 10mg percs daily. They test him monthly to make sure the medication is in his system. If he comes up with a hot urine(pot), he would lose his pain meds and disability insurance. SSI however you should not have ANY problems. Isint it BS that the docs will prescribe all these opiates and if someone actually uses somthing that REALLY helps them they would lose everything? Ridiculous state I live in :PQuote:
Originally Posted by StickyfingahZ
I hope they dont test me,I cant stand taking those meds,FOr one,They dont work,my doctor had me increase my meds,this is no joke,they wernt working! At one point I was taking 12 Vicodin a day,4x3 a day.My stomach and kidneys would ache bad,come to find out,my chiroprqactor told me those meds are only for limited use,like......after surgery or for a week....not to be taken on a daily basis for extended times.
I feel alot better now,Thanks you guys,very comforting to know it is possible to get ssi,I was just worried that being a medical MJ patient,that would excluded me from reciving it.
I've got a family member in the same predicament. Until I educated her on the wonders of subbing with synthetic urine. They even watch her everytime.
I just got back from a phsyco analist for my SSDI. She's more nuts than I am.lol
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Sorry! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
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Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Oh,sorry bout that.
No problem.
I just sent in my paperworks yesterday and I just left it blank,I figure when I have my interview later on this month that I can just explain it,lol
Im not worried if they have someone follow me around to see if I am disabled,I dont leave my house anyway,well,I check the mail,but thats about it.
You could of put what you've been prescribed in the past in an attempt to manage your pain but nothing so far has helped and you're still seeking relief from your chronic pain. Or tell them something to that effect when they ask you about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StickyfingahZ
Thanks SouthernGuerilla,Thats what I am planning on doing,I have my telephone interview coming up next week and I'll try explain that to them.
Thanks again you guys!
Stickyfing: NEVER mention pot, it is not legal federally! You are applying for a federal fund. That being said, your recomendation-did you have your stone age records sent to the mmj Dr; SS will get them that way! I don't think it will matter in your case!
I have had a little experience for myself and helping a few others. I applied in 1980's (early) for a friend I lived with's brother that was mentally challenged! It was such a cakewalk, I don't remember doing much, except cusing some cob up the ass bitch over the phone and told her to do her job! That is it! Apparently, the family had applied in Indiana (I did not know) and was told later he could not get it, ever! When he got it, all his relatives wanted him and the money! Was glad to let them, their pissing and fighting was crap! I recall they did put him in all kinds of programs that helped. They put him in social organizations and all kinds of things. I'd like to take the credit. But, i only had one meeting in one place for him and none of his family had to do shit! I am very happy for him. Even got buses to go 4 miles out of city to pick him up--others started using the bus also! He went back to Indiana!
second experience WHICH RELATES TO U! I have extremely similar problems! I applied for SSD in Feb and had a big ass check end of April! Back pay and all! My understanding is--U DO NOT PAY SS ATTORNIES, so you can afford it! I was sent to a shrink that used a Dr.'s office, I knew and worked with in the past, he did a mickey mouse chit chat with me! I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS THE INTERVIEWER! He was nice and pleasant, I was open and honest with illness and care given me.
In my `case I had an injury, took a few failed surgeries and just got worse! I use devices to aid my walking, more now than then. I could do more with a cane. I can go faster and farther with a walker. I am slow and determined without either! Anyway, I stopped my meds--100% days before the interview. So, they can see me as I am, without meds! Didn't tell them, kept getting my meds routinely, if I used them or not! After the interview, I could hardly get off his hard chair and he almost had to help me! THEY VIEW YOUR PHYSICAL CONDITION AND I think send it for the "easy pass" or "hard time " file! Those examiners are trained to look for the smallest detail. If you drop a pen and pick it up, you are fine. so, if you drop your pen, ask them to pick it up for you! Go in hurting! I recall no problem what so ever! Done in less than 3 mos. Said they read my M.D.'s records and made determination from it, according to acceptance letter! They determined my disability was the year before and for some reason gave me retro pay til then. I did not question it.
To this day, I fear calling them for anything, that they will review it! Not that I won't have a problem. I hate going in. don't want to see them and hear their bull!
For many years after, like clockwork. I received a form to fill out for them. It was identical to original. I checked the box, I am not working yet! Copied previous facts and went on. (Oh, the shrink was for my mal-adjustment to not being able to work). Perhaps that helped, but it still stings! I think they did that for about 5 years. Now, I look at my bank statement periodically to see if I am still getting it!
I never heard of anyone taking a blood test for meds! In fact, I think that ought be an invasion of privacy. Anytime, you stick your body with a needle, you are running a risk of infection. Not often, but it happens. Worse, if you are disabled, there are days you just hate to go to the doc for meds or tests! I cancel more Dr. visits than I keep. But, I still get my meds right on que! If I don't get the meds, I expect, my dr. won't prescribe any and then I'll have SS problems!
you get Medicare 3 years after you are determined to be disabiled.
Then my 3rd experience. A 60 yr. old uncle of mine, stubborn and dumb, could have got on disability for single digit IQ, as far as, I am concerned. But, he was rejected 3 times. I spent a few days working with him, getting all the info (was difficult-he thought it was a joke and he was funny). Then I filled out the form and he signed! Denied! I cannot for the life of me figure why! He had a retirement income, insurance and was getting by fine. Then he got a lawyer, after the denial. Not many mos. later he received an retro-active check for well over $50,000.00 from SSD! As they pay retro from time of application until acceptance!
Tylenol is in Vicodin and Tylenol is not good for your body! They'll stuff it down you until you say it doesn't work and insist on something else. I do go to a 'pain clinic' in my HMO. I've tried everything and hate it all! Was nice to get mmj and take a vacation from the pills.
I am the only person I have met that was placed on SSD with first application and never had to put a patient gown on for any SS exam!
Then they will follow up with tricks. Send a post-card, are you interested in being trained in a field of work you can do? I put NO! I loved what I do and keep my license current, waiting for medical cures that are coming around now. I figure they will drop you if they think, YOU think you can work!
If you can engage the interviewer with a little chit chat. Tell them working is your life and self worth. You are depressed because you cannot work. I hope you get the picture!
It will not do you any good to give them your medical records, they will get them and that is how they do business! It is nice to have them, but they want their own records, untouched by you.
Can you believe, not one SSD/SSI worker on this site?
I know people that are blamers. When something goes wrong intheir life, it is always your fault. Suspect, they will be calling SS on you! I've done tons of shit I shouldn't and figure, it doesn't matter what you do once you are on it! Everyone has that day: I want to go horseback riding, fishing, etc. So, you take extra pills to get thru it and have some fun. Or take them all at once, when you are finished, so you can lie down or get out of the car! Many, save them for evening and tell the Dr. they don't help in the dose he gives, so you save them, take at night so you can sleep! I have done it all and no longer hear from them, except annual statements!
Snufu: have you checked veggii's history. That was no joke, were you loaded? It was not funny at all. He may die before he gets on it! That is a fact and some people really do! I am not sure they put medical prob. in history anymore, but he has a big one. I cannot in my wildest dream imagine why he is not on SSD/SSI! Stoned--with pain, I bet! MMJ is so expensive, you give up things you need to get it. You can't afford it on disability. He is a kind young man in lots of pain!
Sorry, so long, but I feel this is a very important problem for a lot on this site.
Oh, I own my home, vehicle was new and paid; and put off applying for years, as you. When they asked me why, I told them I take a lot of pride in supporting myself! With a little forced tear in my eyes! Plus, I did a little sneaky thing just before I did it! Dumb, but it probably helped and I cannot put it on this site! Sorry! Well, a little. I transferred all my assets, other than car and house into a friends name. So, I appeared to be broke to the pocket and desperate to the interviewer. Talked about low self esteem as a result of inability to work. Then swung my mood into laughter a bit, inappropriate! I am glad it went through!
As long as I had money, I did not feel I should apply. that is wrong. You need to apply no matter what if you are disabiled! I thot you had to be broke first, not so! But, appearing to be, helped. They know exactly your finance's! If I had money in the bank, I bet i would have been refused.
The kind interviewer said; ' Due to your assets, we'll place you on SSD, so you can own up to 2 homes, etc! Then they started their investigation.
I do hope this helps! But, Bush put a priority on reviewing ALL SSD/SSI cases when Iraq started. I know people that had been on it all their lives, that got harassed! I never did. He had them review each and every case. It started with that letter, would you like to be re-trained to work? I put no and never heard again. An acquaintance, put yes. He did not have a day to himself for years. They harassed him and made him go to all kinds of things. Finally he gave up his Driver's License and they left him alone! I recall reading in the paper that they would review each case! If you want to read it, I bet one of you expert computer people could find that article!
There are people on it, you meet and wonder why. Particularly, when they are working a full time job of labor and never have a down day or complain of any physical problems. Nor, do they wear it on their sleeve that they are on it. And that my friend, pisses me off! When someone tells me they are on it and they don't have anything wrong with them admittedly! That is what is wrong with that system.
I paid a lot into it, never worked just one job! But, I never had the attitude they owed me either. I was more upset that I couldn't be 'fixed' over night! Still am, I guess!
Stickyfing: U R not going to get better, sorry to tell you. So, push as far as you can on your own, if you have to have a hearing, get an attorney prior to that. I know of no one that went to a hearing and got it without a lawyer! Remember, they are basically, free, just take 12% (last quote I heard) of what they get for you in the retro payment! I think lawyers slow it down, the longer they take the more they make!
I tend to ramble my thots on a PC, not like a piece of paper and pencil, you just quickly look at what you said, I am not a computer friendly person! I DO HOPE THERE IS SOME INFO HERE THAT WILL HELP and you understand my dialog! pr :smokin:
WOw,thanks painretreat,I just looked on the back of the forms and it said HIPPA does not apply to the Dissability,I guess the patriot act or something,they were saying they will grab all info......now thats not so reassuring.
People have to remember with SSDI this is money you and your employers have paid into the system. You're not taking anything from anybody. This is your own money that you are trying to get because you can't do the job that you're trained to do. And it ain't much but it helps.
Stickyf: glad 2 B of help. HIPPA wasn't here when I applied-sorry! But, go figure. U pay them and they spend more money harassing you than giving you the benefits.
Killer: You are so right--but they will gladly train u in something else, most likely you cannot do!
So, don't fall for that trap, unles you see something you really think you can do. Cause, it screws with your bene's!
And believe me, they will sit right in front of you and tell you exactly how long you paid in to decide if you get SSD or SSI! If you have paid in a long time, you are entitled to SSD. It allows you to own things. Property, nice car and have a good life, if you can figure out how to support it on the penny's they give you.
SSI is nice, it pays 100% of your medical bills, but you cannot own a thing! So, think about what is best for you!:hippy:
I think the insurance company's got shitty before SS benefits got so hard to get. Guess, if ins. co's can screw u; the Gov't shall, as well! I just hope it all goes well for you and you appear in a lot of pain and hobble around!
It is sad that most people, even the disable, think: If you can walk and talk, there is nothing wrong with you! That thinking sucks and so do people who think it.
Sadly, the people that need to give u your benefits, pretty much think like that!
Just thinking, I think, I'd inquire: Exactly, what do they mean by the Hippa statement! Just curious! Thanks and again, good luck. I know how you feel and there is nothing worse than getting stomped on when you are down!:hippy:
I just got my initial determination yesterday and was turned down so I guess its on to the attorneys for the 2 appeals. I imagine my first appeal will be turned down so the second one will be in front of a judge. Its all part of the game.:jointsmile:
OKAY!
I just finished my Phone interview,it took about 30 minutes,just went through questions like why I can nopt work and what meds Im taking,didnt mention weed,just my other meds for pain,insomnia and other stuff.
It went pretty well,they asked me stuff about what job I worked for the longest and why I quit my last job and if I am in any training.Also they kept asking me about special skills.
I also went to a new doctor and he told me to go swimming......I told him my back hurts and he told me I am overweight and thats why my back hurts.He knows I have arthritis but he kept insisting on me going swimming 5 days a week.....he kept mentioning michael Phelps and how fit he is.I aint michael phelps.....but I guess the doctor knows what he is talking about,I just feel it is gonna hurt me more,but also hurt me getting dissability.
Tell them whatever they want to hear. Its all part of the game. I bought an exercise bicycle because my doctor wanted me too. Guess what it hurts to damn much on my arthritic legs to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StickyfingahZ
lol,
I seen a commercial on TV for a lawyer saying if you got turned down for dissability even though your doctor said you no can work, to give him a call,I wrote his number down just incase,I probably wouldnt have done that before,but after hearing everyones experiences and advice,it seems like the thing to do.
Killer: whats an initial detremenation? Is that after the interview?
Has anyone ever gotten a lawyer and not gotten ssi?
Im just drained out of all my savings long ago and it sucks depending on people.
The initial determenation is just the first determination after they've looked at all the evidence. Over 70% get turned down the first time. Then you file an appeal,try to get more evidence to increase your chances. Then if its turned down that time you get to appeal to a judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by StickyfingahZ
well,I just got a determination letter I had to fill out....Well it said "Vocational Rehabilitation Social Security Determination" and it was a questionaire asking me what I can and cant do.
Asked me what I do when I wake up till when I go sleep,which is basically nothing.....I wonder whats next......anyone here had to file something like this?is this a good sign or bad sign,lol
Im in the same boat as you. I was diagnosed with Chiari Malformation and had brain surgery 5 weeks ago. I am now going through the disability process. I filled out the "pain and limitations" survey and now am waiting upon the decision. Ive been told a lot of people are denied the first time, so be ready to appeal.
Stickyf: Get a new Dr. ASAP! And when you see this dude, next. Tell him you have been going to a friends. Got a book and did the 'back stretching' exercise's gentle and about 5 min. of swimming and the next day after you were up and about for several hours you began hurting worse than ever. So, you went and did it again and even gentler. Like: 'drinking the hair of teh poison that kicked you (or however that saying goes)! And you kept it up, due to how much you were eager to cure yourself at his request! I wish I were joking!
Tell him you are getting much worse and can't even stand anymore to brush your teeth due to back pain. If that doc doesn't become passionate, get a new one asap! Your determination has a lot to do with what her says and writes. You'll never get it with that as your doc!
See an attn: he/she will send you to a doc they work with and make the process a little easier on you. Good luck, sorry you are going to have a tuff time. It is lawyer time-the way they have made it, does not reflect on you.
Killerw: So sorry to hear you have not had much luck with this and keep it up, even when it seems impossible. My support is with you!
Diablo: Sorry to hear you probs; you as everyone above will remain in my prayers.
:rastasmoke: :hippy: :jointsmile:
Be sure and have your doc fill this form out. Mine was too stupid to figure it out.
Dangit,I hate all this filling out stuff and processing and waiting,lol I know its needed,but man,It seems there really is no simple way.Quote:
Originally Posted by painretreat
Well,I go to a clinic and so far I have seen 4 Doctors,well 3 and one nurse practitioner.One of them told me to go swimming,which I gave him a look like "wtf?!" and he told me "Just do it" and gave me something diffrent...which got me super depressed,I had never felt so depressed in my entire life,so couple days later I saw the other doctor and he gave me something else,I did however register at the YMCA to swim and I ended up just wading in the shallow end, cause everytime I would try and lift my legs I had this sharp pain in my lower back and now my hips are starting to hurt.
I really dont wanna change doctors,but I will do whatever it takes to get this whole process done with.I guess its just that my Medical MJ doctor is at the clinic I go to with all the other doctors that have been seeing me.Plus its just down the street from where I live.
Killer-Thanks for the attachment,So I just hand this to my doctor,Or if I go get a new doctor and give it to them?Do I have to mail this?
Diablo-I feel for ya bro,everyone in here,I am at the point where I walk in to the doctors office and they all know me,lol
That file should be included with the rest of your doctors chart notes. Have each doctor you have fill it out.