is there any prez canidate that is for a change in our drug laws!!! comon all you stoners,dopeheads,bongfreaks,blunt rollin bitches we all need to vote for the same person if there is one for pro pot????? let our voices be heard!!!!:rasta:
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is there any prez canidate that is for a change in our drug laws!!! comon all you stoners,dopeheads,bongfreaks,blunt rollin bitches we all need to vote for the same person if there is one for pro pot????? let our voices be heard!!!!:rasta:
the answer to your question is no unless you consider a 3rd party candidate that will not pick up ANY electoral votes i.e. steve kubby
if you think anything is going to change based on whom is president then you are sadly misguided and are setting yourself up for disappointment.:wtf:
don't wait for legalization just grow your own it's the single biggest impact any one person can make
laws, fuck'em!:jointsmile:
it's a shame that your system is ONLY 2 party... and anyone outside of those 2 parties are viewed as fringe candidates...
A theory going in my mind is that we are still in this situation because our drug policies have not ever been perfectly enforced, nor will ever be. Many very influential, powerful people that hold up our frame of American society are very likely to use Cannabis, and if every one of these individuals, our entire system could be in jeapordy, as the solid, genius foundation we have would be behind bars. Until the laws can ever be enforced PERFECTLY, America will not truly realize the damage being caused until it starts hitting the families of those in office. Humans have a hard time visualizing problems they are not exposed to in their life, and an even harder time accepting the possible fate if one should ever make it public. It's a socially suicidal cycle that tortures us, but not so much to make everyone realize the problem.
Ugh, I ramble. Sorry, it's the widow talking...
Edit: And I realize what I said has little relevance, haha. Anyway, no candidate that has a possibility of winning is pro-cannabis. At this point, we just have to look forward to McCain not getting into office. But either way you look at it, the president really doesn't matter, its the people who vote to pass our bills.
How true! Neither of the top two are our friends at this time....lets see if there are any polls that may change their positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
Have a good one!:s4:
i have a poll it's a 23 inch steel pole, i bet i could....alter some minds with it:mad: obama's at least, john would probably take it from me and change the shape of my skull though.
gimp arms and all:jointsmile:
From the looks of things, the candidate who's doing the cause the most good is Congresman Barney Frank:
Rep. Barney Frank Offers Legislation to Legalize Marijuana - US News and World Report
Of the two presidential candidates, Obama would be more likely pro-cannabis than McCain, but neither of them has really touched on the subject and they almost certainly won't. It's not a popular issue to be behind, sadly.
Obama: Pro-medical marijuana BUT wants the government to regulate it and distribute like pharmacies. So much for growing or local co-ops.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUziSfMwAw[/YOUTUBE]
As for the saviors stance on recreational use:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Znv41SIJU&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
It amazes me on how the Obamites love to white-wash the fence that his lord sits on.
As for McCain.....look for NO CHANGE at all regarding the m.j. laws. Well, at least your getting the straight scoop on the asshole. With EITHER one of these, this will have to progress through the state levels before the politians will conform to what's right.
Have a good one!:s4:
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I know that's a far cry from what we want psycho, but it's a step closer to the right path than the wrong one. Marijuana's legitimacy as a medicine should at least be regarded on-par with far more toxic and dangerous drugs like oxycontin. It's considerably safer, but right now people think that it's significantly more dangerous. Unfortunately, folk tend to think no further than "allow it" and "don't allow", not quite processing that if you don't allow it you leave only one other alternative for severe chronic pain patients: opiates.
I can tell you from personal experience, being on oxycontin right now, that 2 recent days of cutting down to a half-dose put me in withdrawal hell. And that's just half! Cannabis, on the other hand, I could quit any time no matter how much I smoked and for how long, without any consequence whatsoever. Meanwhile opiates have the same problem of a potential muddled-brain, plus they're considerably more neuro-toxic (cannabis has no neuro-toxicity as far as I know), their physical toxicity leaves for the possibility of overdose (which cannabis has never done), then there's issues of respiratory depression, constipation (that one really sucks I can tell ya!), and lowered pain-tolerance as caused by prolonged opioid analgesic use. Yet, somehow, the politicians like Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani, who fancy themselves doctors, tell us that powerful opioid analgesics are "much safer alternatives"! :mad:
Because, you know.... these politicians know what's good for us much better than our doctors. :rolleyes:
holy shit gandalf, i would rather die a painful and horribly indignant death than resort to prescription pills!
HELL i even fought having my thyroid script! i beat it though, and found an alternative; raw thyroid tissue.
to hell with aspirin, acetaminophen, or whatever else, toke a bowl for pain or DEAL WITH IT, the alternatives really arent up to snuff.
we all choose our ailments, and i choose not to resort to pharmaceuticals if i can help it.
First he's for decriminalization then he's against it. NOW he's for medical marijuana as long as it's regulated and NOT grown by the people in need. You think that I really believe Obama's line of crap? He's a different person in front of every crowd.....so who was asking the questions and what did HE have to gain on his answers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
I can't tell his stance by the voting record because he has rarely shown up for a vote since he was on the state legislature. Can't tell by what he says because he's as two faced as they come.....typical Washington poliltician. He's already got the delusional college crowd; now he has to go after the elders...the reefer madness crowd. I'd LOVE to see this guys response in front of a group of seniors. "And I swear, I'll rid this country of the killer weed".....I can hear him now.:asskick:
Have a good one!:s4:
That and would it ever happen any other way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
Yeah, Obama's just another politician. From what I understand, he's already done his share of flip-flopping. At least it will still stand a snowball's chance in Hades under Obama.
I can't get this scenario out of my mind now. Obama steps up to a microphone, "I'd like to now address the stoners, dopeheads, bongfreaks and blunt rollin bitches."
Obama really pisses me off to no end.
At least with McCain, you know where he stands and he will just be honest with you.
Obama just says what he has to depending on the crowd as said before, I actually have more respect for McCain even though he is on the complete opposite end of where I am on the issue, simply because he has integrity, P4B is right on. The proof is in the pudding, just go back and look at all the drool laden threads about how "Obama is going to legalize weed blah blah blah...." it makes me want to puke, he is counting on the fact that most stoners won't notice that he is for/against legalization, and that they will just remember that he is "for legalization". As for MMJ, moving cannabis to a sched 2 is the biggest farce of all. Wow, make it as legal as cocaine! Hot fuckin' dog! PUKE PUKE PUKE! How about moving it OFF THE SCHEDUELE!!! I am pretty sure medical user's would have better access as well as cheaper access as opposed to just reschedueling it. Imagine that a win for EVERYONE not just the "SPECIAL SPECIAL ENTITLED SELECT FEW THAT HAVE JUMPED THROUGH ALL THE NEEDED HOOPS"
He likely might support legalization, but since he is so linguini spined he fears being percieved as "too liberal" which is why he "modified" his position on legalization. Which in itself is funny, liberals need to hide who they really are to get elected, they are ever so worried about being labeled a "liberal". Where as Conservatives embrace their label.
Then on the other hand you have the Republicans that are always worried about loosing that "religious spook vote", (not Conservative Christian, not all republicans are "conservatives") anyway, legalizing cannabis should be an issue that "REAL" Conservatives are behind, but god forbid the religous spooks not come out on election day! McCain is obviously exempt from this, he is far from "Conservative", and is I think a prime example of a "Republican".
Like I said though, at least he has the sack to state his position and not cow-tow to whomever he happens to be talking to that moment. I would rather have an honest president with integrity, than some shiny turd that may, might, maybe, nope, nevermind, not do anything to progress Cannabis legalization.
Obama could print a book tomorrow that states his plan to legalize Cannabis day 1, and I would still NOT VOTE FOR HIM. Big fucking deal if cannabis is legal and I live in the largest, newest, socialist state on earth. I would rather keep it dirty but know my country is moving forward in positive way.
Osama's position on this issue is intentionally vague, so he can suck up as much popular support as possible all the while he will likely do nada while fucking over the current and future generations. No thanks, go run for office somewhere in the eastern block of Europe. And oh yeah, fuck you for taking advantage of stupid people that don't know any better!:thumbsup:
(And no that is not directed at "anyone that supports Obama", just "stupid people" that support him..!:D I realize plenty of people truely believe he is the one, or that many people like him for many other reasons and I in no way am saying that you are stupid if you support Obama.)