Barak continues his World tour

In Germany, Obama urges joint fight against terror - Yahoo! News


I'm a Barack supporter, and I know there are a lot of negative threads about him posted almost daily here.

The man can certainly draw inspiration and hope though. Look at the turn out he had here , in BERLIN !

Man,... I would hate to be the guy in charge of trying to get McSame nominated , B.O. is a machine !

Is it just me , or with this world tour he's on, conducting foreign policy already , seems like this election is over before its even happened ?

They loved him there, and it was a good speech. Every time he talked about cooperation, he got a cheer. It's such a contrast from the "with us or against us" kinds of ultimatums they've been hearing from the US for eight years. Obama will rebuild our friendships instead of looking for new enemies.

This is from the article, and I found it hillarious:

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Republicans chafed at the media attention Obama's campaign-season trip has drawn. Presidential rival John McCain went to a German restaurant in swing-state Ohio, and said he'd like to deliver a speech in Germany, but as president not candidate.

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Who came up with that? McCain camapign strategy session:

"Ok, Obama is going to be speaking to 200,000 cheering Germans at the Victory Tower in Berlin. What are we going to do in response?"

"Well, I think maybe we might be able to book the Heidelberg Hoffbrau downtown. Maybe stand out front and whine about the attention Obama is getting?"

"Brilliant! Let's do it! How's the bratwurst there?"

yea someone mis-read a memo on that one . LOL :thumbsup:

I wonder what type of response MaCain would receive from 1/4 million internationals.....
...A german resturant in Ohio not quite such a security risk ;)

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Originally Posted by jessejames12345

yea someone mis-read a memo on that one . LOL :thumbsup:

I wonder what type of response MaCain would receive from 1/4 million internationals.....
...A german resturant in Ohio not quite such a security risk ;)

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It seems like a truly incompetent campaign move by McCain. Why go to a German restaurant in Ohio on the day your opponent is going to have a major event actually in Germany? They knew Obama's event would be huge, and the restaurant would just be lame, so why even invite the comparison by making it a German restaurant? No wonder even Republicans think McCain is running an incompetent campaign. John Stewart is going to have a laugh riot comparing these two events on the same day.

The Obama event went really well. I have hated watching the US abuse its allies and weaken its freindships for these past eight years. I'm looking forward to rebuilding some of that goodwill.

PRESIDENT Kennedy made historic speech in Germany in "63"; PRESIDENT Reagan did the same in "87"; A candidate/senator now thinks that he's done enough so far to do the same in "08"? Can anyone spell e-g-o-m-a-n-i-a-c?

And this political posturing was paid for by yours truly....the American tax payer; whether you support him or not!:mad:

Have a good one!:s4:

Hiel Obama!:thumbsup: He;s got my vote, if I remember to do so.lol

They won't like him so much when he realizes he wants them to pony up troops to go to Afghanistan.

But he should run for President of Germany, since he's so popular there!

That was an amazing speech he gave in Berlin today. McCain's Sausage Haus visit didn't have the same panache, did it?

The tax-payer supported presidential campaign fund didn't pay for that trip, however. You can confirm this with both campaigns and with the GAO if you like, as these expenses are a matter of open record. Obama has more money in his campaign coffers than you must realize. More every day, too. His private campaign money and donations paid for that trip, although people are loving to say otherwise to stir the pot. Secret Service protection, security and escorts, particularly in the Middle East, came out of taxpayer monies, as they have for McCain's similar trips overseas, which no one's had a problem with. No one has had a problem with the fact that during the Iraq war, 87 U.S. legislators and public officials have visited that part of the world on the taxpayer tab. But Obama's very wealthy campaign chest paid for his trip except for the security part of it. He has plenty left over where that came from!

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

That was an amazing speech he gave in Berlin today. McCain's Sausage Haus visit didn't have the same panache, did it?

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Turns out it wasn't really even a German restaurant. It was just a Der Wienerschnitzel drive-thru in Dayton, Ohio. You could get a free Chili Dog for joining the Wiener Lover's Club. Or if you made a $100 campaign contribution, McCain would personally buy you the 3-for-$3 special --- your choice of Chili Dog, Corn Dog, or Original Mustard Dog. Fries and drink not included.

The other funny thing about this whole trip is that McCain kept saying Obama should go to Iraq and Afgahinstan. So he goes, and he visits these other countries as well, and it's been a great success, and now McCain is all grumpy about it! Ha ha! It was your idea McCain! Don't you remember?

Lots of jealousy at work about all the publicity. McCain's trips to the same places didn't garner the same level of attention, did they? He did indeed suggest the Obama trip, though. The other funny thing is the complaints about the support team that have been helping Obama book up on foreign policy and international relations. McCain has a similar team of experts in his camp, too, to help him buff up. He's no foreign policy wonk, either, as he has freely admitted. He's been working hard at polishing up those same skills with a team of his own tutors.

So did Dubya. Sadly in Dubya's case, he never learned a lick from one of them.

I'm about ready for some vice presidential announcements! I'm putting money on Bobby Jindal for McCain. He's young, smart and he can help carry the south. I don't know who it'll be for Obama. For a while I thought Hillary and for a while John Edwards. Now I don't know. The Texas Dems still want Hillary real bad. The Latino vote here loves her. (Sorry for the departure from thread topic here at the end.)

I really agree, I think He did more in this one speach to uplift the international view of America than mr Bush has done in the past 8 years.



I understand why republicans are so worried, and perhaps trying to discredit him. I agree that there have been some recent 'flip flops' fair enough, but I DONT think this affects his character.

Is it 'flip floping' when you revise your view based on new evidence? May it be contradictory to your old veiw or not ?

I would call it bravery and honesty and living in the moment...
.. But maybe those qualities we would like to have in ourselves are no good in a president ?? I really dont understand all the Barak hatred living in these forums...maybe more based in fear than anything else, yes ?

peace
jj

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Originally Posted by jessejames12345

I really agree, I think He did more in this one speach to uplift the international view of America than mr Bush has done in the past 8 years.

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Absolutely. Bush did a lot to destroy the world's respect for our country. He weakened our friendships. Obama will heal those rifts. We need our friends, and it's not just about "being liked" for the sake of popularity. Having friends and allies helps you get things done.

Obama drew a crowd of 200,000 wildly enthusiastic Europeans. 200,000!!!! Have you ever seen a group that big turn out for ANY American? Holy crap!

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I really dont understand all the Barak hatred living in these forums...maybe more based in fear than anything else, yes ?

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Some of it is legitimate issues differences. But a lot of it is win-at-any-cost partisanship. And a lot of it is fear and envy, like you mentioned. I think Republicans know this one is out of their reach, and they are reacting with bitterness.

Just saw on the news that he broke away for the ego trip in Germany which was paid by his campaign. LOL....I guess he didn't feel it was right to use these funds to visit wounded troops but it was o.k. to try to put himself in the same light as Kennedy and Reagan. The Associated Press: Obama scraps visit to wounded US troops in Germany

I find the "jealousy" comment amusing. While the Dems cry about the imbalance of "talk radio" on how it leans to the right, they don't mind that t.v. news is doing the same with Obama. Hell, even Obama mentioned that he didn't like the idea of Fox News being on the tube in most of the military bases on his "tour":
When Barack Obama set off on his overseas tour this week, the anchors of the three major broadcast networks were invited along -- but not Chris Wallace of Fox News.

"Apparently on the airplane somebody asked, 'What sort of reaction are you getting from the troops you're visiting with,'" Steve Doocy noted, "and he said, 'Well, you know, wherever I go, Fox is on.'"

Gretchen Carlson then took up the story. "When Obama asked why Fox has the hookup -- he called it 'the hookup' -- he also implied that it was the commander-in-chief's choice to have Fox News there. ... Andrea Mitchell from NBC then chimed in, 'It started with this administration.' Obama smiles, and then Jake Tapper from ABC asks, 'I wonder what cable network you'll pick?'"
The Raw Story | Fox host: Obama accused Fox of 'brainwashing our troops'

I guess Fox is the the bad guys to Obama since they don't "Feel that thrill running up their leg".
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-yMUQ8KzI[/YOUTUBE]

Media bias is an issue that the left should really stay away from in this election. Hell, even Clinton stated the same thing when she got railed by the press; "Would you like a pillow?".

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by jessejames12345

I understand why republicans are so worried, and perhaps trying to discredit him. I agree that there have been some recent 'flip flops' fair enough, but I DONT think this affects his character.

Is it 'flip floping' when you revise your view based on new evidence? May it be contradictory to your old veiw or not ?

I would call it bravery and honesty and living in the moment...

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So what "new evidence" was behind his yes vote on the FISA bill?

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Originally Posted by jessejames12345

I really dont understand all the Barak hatred living in these forums...maybe more based in fear than anything else, yes ?

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-Fear of my taxes rising due to left wing ideals such as health care and free college
-Fear of gas prices going completely out of hand with his lack of vision regarding drilling for oil and nuclear power
-Fear of giving illegal immigrants drivers licences
-Fear of his associations with people like the racist Rev. Wright and terrorist William Ayres.

And the list goes on and on..........

Have a good one!:s4:

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So what "new evidence" was behind his yes vote on the FISA bill?



-Fear of my taxes rising due to left wing ideals such as health care and free college
-Fear of gas prices going completely out of hand with his lack of vision regarding drilling for oil and nuclear power
-Fear of giving illegal immigrants drivers licences
-Fear of his associations with people like the racist Rev. Wright and terrorist William Ayres.

And the list goes on and on..........

Have a good one!:s4:

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Health care: Currently as of 2006 the amount of Americans with Employer based health insurance was 60%. Since that time in an article by the new york times I believe (I have to find it) says it's risen an additional 6%. That puts us at 66% Americans with insurance.

There are currently 20% of Americans with no insurance and the remaining 15% are unaccounted for. So some of that 15% is either paying for their own insurance or on government programs like medicare/medicaid or something.

Obama plans to punish nearly 70% of Americans for 20% of the confirmed population without health insurance.

Taxes: Obama plans on tax cuts across the board with the exception of corporations and the rich. While this may sound good on paper how do you think Companies will try to recoup their costs (which honestly his tax proposal looks pretty horrendous for companies). They will increase the price of their products, they will cut jobs; effectively raising the unemployment percentage, and they will probably lower the salary of all new positions that open. Overall giving either NO or a smaller pay check to good old Citizen Joe blow

War: Obama has been preaching before about how he was against the war, but in his short time in the Senate he's voted FOR about 20 Major pro war bills. Maybe it's just me but if you believe in something I think you should stand up and let your voice be heard, not pretend to be for something when you're not or go with the flow because it's easier.

Voting This is a man who misses something of like 2/3 of his votes (I forgot the exact figure but it was LARGE). I mean he's a no vote or a no show most of the time. How can you trust a person who doesn't even take the time to vote on issues to lead our country?

I can go on and on, and maybe I will... but for now I gotta drive into the office.

Ha ha!

This thread is about Obama's world tour, which has been an amazing success, and specifically his HUGE reception in Germany, where he made a GREAT speach to 200,000 people. But since there is no real criticism that can be made about the tour itself, the anti-Obama folks go off topic into the issues that have been debated a thousand times already in numerous threads throughout this forum.

If you want to switch the topic guys, don't go negative --- it just looks so sad and petty. Try to keep positve. Maybe say something positive about McCain --- like maybe point out what a great idea McCain had when he suggested Obama go on this tour! Good job, McCain! That was a GREAT idea!

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Ha ha!
But since there is no real criticism that can be made about the tour itself, the anti-Obama folks go off topic into the issues that have been debated a thousand times already in numerous threads throughout this forum.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

PRESIDENT Kennedy made historic speech in Germany in "63"; PRESIDENT Reagan did the same in "87"; A candidate/senator now thinks that he's done enough so far to do the same in "08"? Can anyone spell e-g-o-m-a-n-i-a-c?

Have a good one!:s4:

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They won't like him so much when he realizes he wants them to pony up troops to go to Afghanistan.

But he should run for President of Germany, since he's so popular there!

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LOL...I think the issue was covered well.:thumbsup:

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Ha ha!
If you want to switch the topic guys, don't go negative --- it just looks so sad and petty.

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Sorry but jessejames12345 brought up "other topics" but we always forget the golden rule regarding Obama.

Have a good one!:s4:

Next up is France and then Great Britain. These should be pretty good stops too --- Sarkozy is fairly pro-American and Great Britain is our best ally.

McCain is not to be outdone, however --- he is planning to serve French Toast and English Muffins at an IHOP in Boca Raton, Florida.

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McCain is not to be outdone, however --- he is planning to serve French Toast and English Muffins at an IHOP in Boca Raton, Florida.

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LOL....at least he'd be campaigning in the states.

Well, been a long week and I'm on a mission.....ya ALL have a good one!:thumbsup:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBALTxDhTrE[/YOUTUBE]

Have a good one!:s4:

Of course the Europeans love Barack, he's JUST like them! I really like how when he was in Germany he never visited our injured troops BUT he did get a good work out.