iv been reading, and have heard from many people that you can turn bagseed into some pretty bomb shit if you grow it right, and don't alow males
I was wondering if this is possible?
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iv been reading, and have heard from many people that you can turn bagseed into some pretty bomb shit if you grow it right, and don't alow males
I was wondering if this is possible?
Yes. Choose your bag seed carefully though- Trippy, uppy sativas including tropical-climate bricked weed are generally unsuitable for indoor growth. Save seeds for indoors from Beasters, Nooks, and other Canadian compressed, but non-brick, style weed, and better, only.
You can even turn Beasters seeds into excellent product; just let them ripen fully and don't process them in a commercial manner lol!
alright sick, its just what i got to, gracias stinky
Can 'beaster' seeds become 'headies' if grown properly? Also how long can seeds keep for. I've heard up to 2 years in a cool, dark location but another source said up to 5-10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Not really. They are a strain that is heavily indica (M39) and bred for commercial-scale production, rather than quality of the high or 'headiness' of the high.
They can become a very good solid product, grown with care.
Store seeds in a cool, dark, DRY place and they should be good for a long time, with germination rates starting to decline after about 5 years at the rate of ~10%/year.
hahha this chica knows everything bout dank
Over the course of a year+, my roomates and I saved seeds from any particularly good bag of merch we picked up - best taste, best high, etc. in one container all mixed together. I wound up growing about 24 plants, about a dozen of the best females were finished, with each plant assigned a number and clones were taken before or early in bloom.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecavebears79
In the end, I wound up scaling back for my next(current) grow to a single small closet for personal use with a clone from my favorite plant from that original grow. My bagseed beauty produced beautiful dense pornographic crystal frosted buds with the most amazing sweet mellow carmel flavor, and active clear high. Now I've got one mother and several clones of that plant waiting for my bloom chamber to be empty - (three afghoo - also bagseed - being sexed in there right now).
So yea, you can get great results from bagseed BUT: the key is to have enough variety to select from from a first grow. Select your favorite and keep clones going for the next grow. One of the plants from my first grow was... gross. tasted like insecticide. It's clones were killed off - there was just no point in keeping them around. Others were good but just not anywhere as nice as the above mentioned bagseed queen. One was absolutely amazing, but none of its clones survived - in fact the damn thing seemed to be nearly impossible to clone.
Cavebears, do you have access to seeds from quality (hopefully indica dominant) bud as Stinky mentioned? Hopefully you do!
(If your town is like mine and all you get is crap weed, lemme know, I am working on a crap-weed focused grow guide :D En serio, I do have tips though.)
peace and good luck! :rastasmoke:
Oh, another note - avoid seeds from any bag that has a lot of immature seeds in the mix - these were pollinated late in bloom (which is why so many of them will be so small come harvest time) which means you can rule out intentional pollination, and you can likely rule out accidental pollination by a male that didn't get found early in the grow, and are likely from a plant that began to produce a few male flowers late into bloom.
If you started with a few mature seeds from a bag with a large proportion of small white immature seeds, then chances are you will wind up with Hermie's in your grow.
I did wind up with a few plants in my first grow which began to produce male flowers right at the last week or so of bloom - their clones were discarded.
Ideally, if you find a single bud which is heavily packed with mature seeds in a bag of seedless/nearly seedless herb, then you should dance for joy and be sure to plant them - if most of the buds have no seeds, then there were likely no hermies nearby, and if a single bud in the same bag is packed with mature seeds, then you can be reasonably sure that it was the result of intentional pollination by the grower for seed. That's what happened with my Afghoo: My friend sold me a tiny bag of the stuff from a couple ounces he picked up. One little popcorn bud in my bag was packed full of seeds, all mature, but no one else found even a single one, and no other buds in my bag had seeds either.
Of course, I have no idea if these are straight Afghoo seeds or Afghoo X (???), but we'll see what comes of it.
Nifty observation man.Quote:
Originally Posted by CannabaCharlie
Wouldn't that also mean that these would be feminized seeds? A mixed blessing perhaps? Every once in a while I meet someone who is wary of feminized seeds, but which ones sell for more in the majority of seedbank catalogs?
:rastasmoke:
Could be, it was just that in my case I felt it was better to err on the side of caution - the fewer odd problems to deal with on my first grow the better :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by melodious fellow
The reason I'd advise against using seeds from a bag like that is the risk of the hermie trait being carried forward - the hermie that pollinated that bud might just be genetically predisposed to the hermie trait - without being stressed - I was going to qualify that I don't actually have any experience of the hermie problem, but then I remembered that I did have two hermies in the grow but they only pollinated themselves and/or each other and they were ok to smoke after fishing out those little white specks of seeds. But I keep reading that warning over and over as I wander the internet, so I avoided seeds from any bag with immature seeds in it.
As for strains, all of of the plants I started with were from unknown bags of mid-grade generic pot - but only from the bags that turned out to be surprisingly damn good to be priced as generic mid-grade pot. - I have no idea what strains could possibly have been involved or where geographically any of it could have been coming from or what conditions it was grown under.
If I had to start from scratch completely again (unless GanjaSanta were to start dropping off seeds of true-breeding stabilized cool hybrids for me to play with and share with my friends each Christmas or perhaps April 20th... damn, that would be cool... mmmm... where were we.... shit... ohhh yea)
I would try to do it the same way I did this time: a wide variety of seeds from bags of weed that I really enjoyed- those that had the characteristics that I enjoy and would want in my crop - but still a good variety from a lot of different sources (which may not be as easy everywhere as it is in my town, I realize...)
I would try to take two or three clones from each plant when they were just big enough.
Pitch males and clones, harvest and evaluate each plant and compare. Then, I would pitch the clones of anything that was really disappointing (did I mention my herbicide flavored plant?? I'm serious... disgusting... smoked it mostly in blunts 'cause that was the only real way to cover up its true inner horrific nature), I would just bloom all of the clones of the plants that were ok but not great, and then I would hold back a clone or two of each plant that really stood out as the best of the crop - those would then be the mother plants supplying clones for each batch to follow.
There are a couple big downsides to doing it this way: one that you are dependant on clones to reproduce weed you like and if it happens to die then you're S.O.L. [can't just order seeds, you gotta go through that whole selection process again to get a new momma which may or may not be as nice... so far I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that I always have a happy momma and a clone or two of plants as nice as my current one] also I've read about clone fatigue and I've read that it's real and I've read that it's a myth, and I have no freaking idea. Two, it means having a shit-ton of plants growing at once for a while to get a real good selection which is obviously a lot of work and, depending on the climate in your area may likely be prone to all sorts of risks. I actually lucked out and had a good bit of space to work with in a secluded location, but I also let the plants get pretty dang big (oops) before blooming. If I were to do it again, I would probably not have that kind of space, so I would just keep the plants as small as possible and hope that I can still get a good idea of the differences and potential of each one.