My enclosed hood isn't really. It is riveted together and leaks all over the place. The glass panel doesn't seal either. I want a new one, does anyone have a suggestion or favorite? Looking for a small one to hold a 600W HPS, with 6 inch openings.
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My enclosed hood isn't really. It is riveted together and leaks all over the place. The glass panel doesn't seal either. I want a new one, does anyone have a suggestion or favorite? Looking for a small one to hold a 600W HPS, with 6 inch openings.
Yeah I use a solar six reflector. No seals on the glass. But it seems to work ok in my grow room.
And no air leaks?
Hey Opie ,
I really like my cooltubes .
$80.00 ea. plus a $15.00 pr. of aluminum specular finish batwings .
There's almost no restricion in airflow w/ them compared to a traditonal hood .
Crispi :stoned:
Sunlight Yeildmaster 6"- US made ( if ya buy the "Supreme", not the " Classic", which isn't), inline 6" flanges, built in cordset- and cheap.
Nice, well built, everything ya need no bells or whistles.
Not too too heavy.
XC- you just have those strapped to a joist?
I also highly recommend going with a 6" duct air-cooled. Way more air flow is possible, and less noise than a 4" for the same cfm flow.
Not completely airtight but I don't feel any air coming out of the system. It appears to be exactly the same as the Euro 6"Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
XC, I've got a cool tube in my veg area and it's great. Is that 3 x 1000W you have in one run? What have you got pulling the air over them? I want something similar to my leaky air cooled reflector in my flower area though. I want to be able to mount a couple bars on it that will hold some cfls as well, and the cool tube reflectors just can't handle that well. That is unless maybe I make my own, like in my flower area.
I was looking at that one last night, and am leaning toward it. It is supposedly updated so that it is more air tight. The glass swings open instead of sliding out and has a gasket. It should be able to handle mounting some additional weight as well. They claim their reflective material is about 10% more reflective than the competition. My cool tube is by the same company and seems very well built.Quote:
Originally Posted by rhizome
Looks bolted.Quote:
Originally Posted by rhizome
Yeah, my current one is 4", and it's not quite big enough for a 600 watter IMO. I've already got a high output 6" fan for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Thanks killerweed, and everyone else.
The Hydrofarm Daystar AC may be pricey to some but kicks serious ass. Super well built and sealed like no other. Worth the $$$. I bought at the local store (not this one) and paid a little more, but its worth it to buy local IMO...
Daystar AC Reflector at Planet Natural
Go to my WTF thread - link below - and you can see it in action... perfect for a 600 Digital HPS. My hands down favorite! :smokin:
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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Good eye Opie , - yes bolts -n- 3-1000w. hps .
A 7' long 2"x4" w/ each cooltube bolted to it using 1/4" bolts , fenderwashers , and wingnuts = No tools needed but a screwdriver to change bulbs or clean tubes . I found the sweet foam lined collars that are used to join them in series like in a greenhouse at P.L. Hydroponics .
On each end of the 2"x4" are 1/4" eyebolts , fenderwashers , nylock nuts w/ dogchains up to 1/4" threaded hooks 2" deep into the 2"x8" floorjoists = we can raise -n- lower them as needed .
A 630 cfm 6 in. hurricane cools all 3 fairly well . 83-84 deg. on average . I get sunburned in there now w/ all 3 blazing in late bloom . No leaks in the system is important here too , leaks = smell escaping the room via. the lights cooling sys .
Peace bro.
Crispi :stoned:
Opie, what kind of reflector do you have? so none of us buy that one
The Yieldmaster looks nice, Sunlight Supply always makes quality gear. I have one of their 430 HPS and one of their 250 HPS.
If you take a look at the Daystar AC it is built in the same way (sealed, door swings down, etc) but the interior reflective material and angles of the hood focus the light down more intensely than anything I've seen out there... Just my :twocents:
That would be a consideration if you are sucking or blowing air from the grow chamber. I can't figure out how to do that and use CO2 effectively, so I have dedicated air just for the light. In this case leaks don't effect odor, but they drastically cut down on the cooling capability of the air cooled reflector.Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi
I guess if you're pulling air over a leaky light it would suck odor in, and exhaust it wherever the exhaust comes out. If you are pushing air over your light, then a leaky light won't contribute an odor problem, assuming you have a separate room intake and exhaust. ???Just thinking out loud. Does that seem right?
MVP, I was looking at the Daystar as well. I was shying away from it because it looks like the sides almost go straight down. I want something where the sides are more at an angle, so the light spreads out a little too. Seems like I could get the light closer and still cover my entire grow if the sides are angled some. Thoughts?
I don't remember the brand, and I can't see it on the reflector. I don't think it would be a fair comparison though, since I bought it many years back, and I'm sure the same model has been improved since (at least I would certainly hope so). I just recommend checking an enclosed hood for leaks before buying.Quote:
Originally Posted by anbesol
Hmmm, it all depends on the footprint you are trying to cover in your grow area. Recommended distance from light to plants is 18-24 inches for a 600 HPS if I recall correctly. What dimension is the area you need to cover with this lighting setup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Yeah this si one of the complaints I have about most of these air cooled hoods. They angle the sides but not the ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
I'm trying to cover a little under 3 square feet, using a stadium scrog. That's supposed to take advantage of the ball-shaped light intensity from HID, among other stuff. I suppose my light is 16-18" from the top of the canopy. Here's a shot with my old screen in. I don't really have one showing the angle of the sides on the reflector.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP
So is it approx 2 ft x 1.5 ft, or is it 3 ft square (3 ft x 3 ft)? Also what is the approx height of the grow area?
cooltube
That is true for most of them. There are some out there that angle the ends too, they're just harder to find. I've seen some nicer ones, but here's a couple:Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
http://www.bghydro.com/mmBGH/Images/HLRECB8.jpg
ELD 1000 LRMV Air Cooled - Reflectors & Reflective Material
That's exactly my issue with hoods.....all that good light wasted and none of it wasted with the CT.
THAT SAID....both those look angled pretty well to me Opie. I really didn't have too much problem with cooling my hood with 4 inch ducting and what I THINK was a 250 cfm inline fan....even though the seals were pretty...well....NOT THERE!. But my entire grow spot isn't carefully sealed either.....it pulls air from other areas of the house to compensate..
I think I'm liking this:
http://www.discount-hydro.com/images...erSun2_600.jpg
doesnt look angled enough to me.
Force me to get out the measuring tape, will ya?Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP
The grow area is 28" x 36", with perhaps 10% extra surface area beyond that due to the stadium. The light is 12 inches to the plants at the sides of the grow, and 15 inches in the middle. The grow area is 8 feet tall, a Leo, and looking for a straight partner.
So do you like that cool tube-style better of the first two? The second one looks a little chinsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
Well just looking at the photos....I actually liked the second better than the first one but that may be based just on the look.
However.....I don't think so. Basically I like the angles much better on the second hood (very angled :thumbsup:) but imho the cooltube's big bonus is the fact that you can get light pretty much EVERYWHERE. If you take that bonus away (by adding the angled lighting in the first photo) then you're probably better off with the second design......at least I think so just based on the photos.
I see what you're saying, which can only be done if a person is reading words or lips. Just not sure, but one thing I am sure of is that I've had it with trying to tape up the glass and other leaky areas. I've also had it with designs that make it hard to change a bulb. My glass is a pain to get out, even after I've cut all the tape off around it.
That cool tube design is by Sun Systems, which at least I've heard of. The other one is by ELD. Who are they? Is there stuff any good? Who knows? Not me, anyone? The ELD looks like 4" flanges for a 1000W bulb, which just doesn't seem like enough. Don't know if they make 6 or 8". Another thing I like better about the Sun Systems one is that the air passes over the bulb in a straight line instead of turning corners. On that note check out this possibility, which don't look too shabby:
SunGro Reflector
And talk about angles, wow I wish this were air cooled:
LumenMax Reflector
And does anyone know anything about the insulating blankets for reflectors?
Sun Shield Duct Shield- 8" Ducting
And what about these hot spot disperser thingees? Seems they might shade the light, but maybe not.
The Equalizer Hot Spot Diffuser- 1000 HPS
I have a light meter, if someone wants to fund some experiments.
That looks somewhat like the one I'm using. First grow with it but it seems to work pretty nice with a 250cfm fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Wow Opie ,
Double thumbs up on the use of space on the stadium scrog . :thumbsup::thumbsup: Reminds me of "Just A Seed" and his fine works . Any yield numbers. ??? That's exactly what Stinky talks about w/optimum use of canopy / light . :)
If I still had a cpl. fingers left :( there'd be a 8' x 10' frame w/ a piece of vinyl coated chainlink fence stretched out on it in my room , 8 - 5 gal. buckets under it , soil grow , clones , all 3000w , Mondo scrog .
A ways back - "you thinking outloud" no. 2 . It sucks the stink out of the room and fills the basement . The furnace or central a/c kick on and my house is just fucked up :( . I can't exhaust it outside , I live insane close to the HOOK . :smokin: .
Keep up the sweet work and experimentation :thumbsup:
I'm watchin the fogger thread too .
Crispi :jointsmile:
I think the grow in that picture was about 8 oz. It had one sick plant, one bad-ass, and a couple normal ones. I have yet to get this scrog thing down perfectly after years of practice, but I seem to do a little better at it each time. I really feel it's the best way to maximize space and the shape of the light output. I feel like this next grow is really going to be a good one, unless maybe I decide to experiment with things like foggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi
You mean that one with no responses? I think I'm going to research more today. Maybe someday I'll have something useful to share in that thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi
Hey Opie you get your new hood yet? i'll throw a thumbs up for Sunlight supply's hoods.
Not yet, but I saw some nice ones at the store. I too like some of the Sunlight Supply hoods, but I can't find any small enough. My space is 36" wide, but most hoods with 6" flanges are nearly that. Doesn't leave any space for ducts.
I may end up cutting bigger holes in my existing hood, and doing a little metal work to make it air tight, and angled better inside on the ends.
Yea that doesn't leave much room... well the hood with 6'' is 24 x 23 x 8 Otherwise it's 4''.... but they are def airtight so that's nice. Only thing with the 6'' are the angles, it's not as efficient as it could be.
What's Up OPIE!!! Were is everyone picking up the cooltubes From.... That is going to be my next investment... I'm playing everything on this next Garden hope all is well... Thanks for the Info I really would like one yesterday.. I thought people were building them and I do not want fire crews @ my house... Seen a lot of do it yourself threads... GL1