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Afghan government says 47 civilians killed when US bombed wedding party - Times Online
BBC NEWS | UK | MoD investigates 'friendly fire'
The casualties just keep racking up and for what ?
I am even more convinced now than I was 20 years ago that the human race is completely insane.
Armageddon can't come too soon IMO. :D
thats so messed up, and they say they were using precision air strikes to take out terrorists in a mountain ...... fuckin douche bags
douche bags... a sometimes overused word but not a better one could be found for this situation in my opinion.Quote:
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Originally Posted by psychocat
Yeah I bet you were saying the same thing 20 years ago too. We're all still here apparently.
47 civillians killed in war, whoopdefuckin'doo. It's WAR.
You are so over the top Psycho.:lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5:Why don't you go dig up some info on how many civillians the war lords over there have killed in say oh the last 20 years. I mean c'mon are you kidding me with this? No doubt you will have alot of sheep in line with you on this but holey fucking sweet feathery jesus, if you are so worried about innocent people dying then you should be happy we are there. In fact you should be pro war everywhere, anywhere there is injustice, that's usually where this line of discussion ends up right.
"Liberal Play Book pg. 10"
"Well then why aren't we fighting in Rwanda, Darfur, ect....on and on."
I am just having some fun with you but really 47 people?:wtf:
To you sir I say,
"So what." "It's a fucking war right?"
Who knows maybe you are right though and this is just a signal of the end times!:S2::S2::S2:
No matter how much I disagree with your postings they are funny!
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Originally Posted by psychocat
Must not have been god's will for them to get married that day huh?:D:D:D
Or maybe it was god's will who knows!:D:D:D
Maybe someone doing kegstands looks suspect from satellite imagery or from the cockpit. :D:D:D
Maybe they were trying to flatten out that area so they could land, after all it's not like the run on zero point energy they only have soo much fuel gotta land sometime.:D:D:D:S2::S2::S2::S2::S2::S2:
Mate i have never seen so much use of the smile list.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
I'm very happy for you.:woohoo: "I know how to put little faces on, i just hope i don't over do it"
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
-quoted from Billy Madison:rasta:
Probably was a cover up operation to bring to country powers closer together and the US wanted to stop this spread of uniting. Who knows, that group could of become married and had to large family powers conjoin to something bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
You never know the story, were part of the US, war and lies and deception has been part of history for millions of years. And in the news things like this are cover ups to be like, hey we got what we wanted done because we knew something you didn't, but to make you happy, heres a news article, everythings bullshit so you can be mad at us.
The US is corrupt but so is the rest of the world. Gotta be hard to play hard ball. Screw before your screwed, tere is no peace in the modern society today.
I will keep that in mind for next time and try to "dumb it down" for you!:jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Halalalalalalalalalalalalalalala.
(Eating dirt and drinking camel spit):)
I really thought what you said here was more applicable to my 2nd post! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Just to clarify something that I thought most people would understand from my original post.
The statement "Armageddon can't come too soon IMO." is based on my wishes.I was not prophesising the end of days , I was just hopeful. What do you expect from someone who doesn't really like humans very much . :D
Psychocat: I also don't like people.:jointsmile:
and Kush: well its applicable to both posts. I just thought while reading your post, what the hell is this guy even arguing...had nothing to do with the topic at hand. So i thought that quote was applicable.
But its light hearted fun. Though I agree with the quote in relation to your post, I'm just kidding:thumbsup:
Well good thing I am not human!:)
Not really trying to argue, just throwing out my opinion, I don't expect everyone to agree, just putting it out there. And I for sure know psychocat wants to hear some alternative views too and I know in advance that we are starting at opposite ends of the field. I know that's really where the fun is here.:jointsmile:
But really it does make sense to me.:stoned:
But then again I am not human either so it may loose something in the translation.:D
i couldnt have put that better myself. I'd also like to add that - of course everyone likes to be different and think differently, but it usually helps if you make sense and actually have a point to make!Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
And speaking as someone who only hates most humans lol i dont personally give a shit bout who got killed where so long as it not people i care about, but whats the point of going to war if you cant hit correct targets if so called friendly fire keeps killing innocent people while the terrorists etc keep bombing our troops, if they could actually fight a war instead of playing with guns maybe it would have been resolved by now.
Apparently he couldn't have put it better himself either, hence the quote from an Adam Sandler movie.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by devils dream
Here's the point for those of you that missed it.
IT'S A WAR. PEOPLE DIE.
Could you tell me of a war where innocent people weren't killed? No? Just checking, your post kinda sounds like you have some magic ideal as to how a war should be fought. As if you are drawing reference from some other war where innocent people weren't killed? WTF?
Do you have any clue as to how many pieces of ordinance have been dropped in that country, and how many did not hit their intended targets, or how many hit targets that turned out to not be enemy?
I believe the answer to that is, "No I don't have any clue".
Wow, talk about incoherent.:D
Oh? I bet you would be thinking differently if it was 47 civilians in the US if we were invaded by an imperial power, or maybe China, India, or Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
No one wins in war really. They are meant to be continued. World War I and 2 have set the stage for World War III in the Middle East and US, by allowing the "Jews" to go back "to their homeland". Modern Zionist crap this all is.
We could get rid of war if we as a society mandated that we stay positive, but we don't and this leads to war, earth changes, famine, etc.
Mind is power and your thoughts greatly affect reality.
Remember that.
In total, just for this year, there have been 700 civilian casualties in Afghanistan.
I got your point Kush, of course people die in a war.
The problem is the disregard for their protection. The civilians who are caught in the crossfire probably don't even cross the minds of the administration. In fact, GWB and his followers probably request that the turbans of the dead be shipped over to America and mounted on the wall like their last deer. All the while drinking and saying "we got you eye-rakki's"!
And with all the best technology, you mean to tell me they can't get their shit straight before they drop a bomb??
Its not about being realistic and saying, well, its a war...so...
Its about trying your best not to kill innocents, and I just don't believe they are.
:wtf: WTF
never have i heard such shit man of course innocent people are going to die during a war, in fact can u tell me exactly where i said innocent people dont get killed in war. i think not as its clearly obvious, but you would think by now with all the technology and equipment to detect targets that they might actually hit that target not just random people or are you telling me thats all part of war, when your government took you to war it was whilst saying lets go kill aload of random people, i dont think so!!! there was supposed to be the point of fighting terrorists!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
and please if your going to ask someone a question its usually a matter of courtesy to let them answer for themselves,
3.4 million iraqi civilians forced to flee there homes and 655,000 killed i may not know everything about it but i'm not thick nor incoherent.
Actually that already happened on a little bigger scale over quite a few years. I guess you may not know this, and it makes sense to me now why you are saying what you are saying I guess. Let me break it down for you Islamic Terrorists have ALREADY EXCLUSIVELY TARGETED CIVILIANS in an openly declared war. Actually they did in the U.K. as well. They have been since, oh, at least since the inception of the state of Israel. Did you just recently like within the last 3 days come out of 20 year coma or something.:S2: Or are you just really fixated on the countries that you mentioned specifically? If you are then that's fine, but it doesn't make any sense. I believe that there is absolutely a huge world of difference between us and them. I know you don't and that's OK, you have the right to be as foolish as you like.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anubis10012007
Yeah it's all the damn Jews fault! Right! :yeahright:Too bad America saved the world and the wretched Jews in WWII huh!:thumbsup::wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anubis10012007
I really see where you are coming from. It makes sense too given the fact that the Bathists, most of the Arab peoples were allied with Nazi Germany. Wooops. And look how far they have come, not very.:thumbsup:
Guess what happens when you lose a war, you lose land. The Nazis and the axis powers lost, all the fascists of the day were in bed with them, so guess what, they lost land. Do you know anything about the history of how the state of Israel was created or the context of history at that time?
Fast forward to now, the Islamic fascists still rule there today in the mid east, they are still pissed about Israel having a state, they are even more pissed that every time they try to do something they have had their sand covered asses handed to them by Israel themselves, or by us, or both.
Since they can't possibly ever hope to defeat us or Israel, and since they are completely gutless, they CAN ONLY ATTACK, PREFER TO ATTACK UNARMED MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN ANYWHERE THEY THINK THEY CAN SUCCEED.
All in hopes to "scare" people which in all reality thank god only really works on the very feeble minded!:D
That is beyond hysterical! LMFAO!! Believe me when I tell you that "whilst":wtf: reading this post I have a huge shit eating grin from ear to ear and am giggling uncontrollably!Quote:
Originally Posted by Anubis10012007
:lol5::lol5:
Could you enlighten me as to how exactly you would "mandate that society stay positive".
Case in point.
Woman's husband is coming home from work, someone crashes into him on the freeway while DUI, (but he was being positive "whilst" driving under the influence!!!):dance:
Woman is now however not at all positive, and for that matter neither is anyone else that happened to not be brainwashed in your hypothetical world.
But anyway I guess the question is how exactly do you mandate that, when a fundamental "right" as a human is to have a choice over what you believe?
You gonna put a gun to her head and make that bitch be positive huh!:S2::S2:
If only we could make Islamic Fascists like us and make them be positive then the world would be much better! Maybe next time they blow up some trains wherever you are from, they will hold a press conference to see if anyone would like to talk to them about what they are planning on doing. I am sure this is all just a silly misunderstanding that a rational discussion couldn't clear up! ROFLMAO!
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Good advice! :yeahright: Words of wisdom right there. How you "think and feel" don't affect anything in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anubis10012007
For instance, if someone kicks you in the nutz, and you just think happy thoughts, I bet those happy thoughts don't really do alot to change the reality that you just lost a testicle. That's just my opinion, I know you believe differently and that's just fine. Let me know how that works out for you!
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On a scale of death on this planet, that's really nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
How many people were killed violently/needless where you live, just by other crazy ass people? In the last year.
I get what you are saying to, and yes any death is a tragedy. But are you kidding me? Do you not see the difference between making a mistake, and 100% Intent? You should try to look at Islamic Terrorism, and try holding them to the same standards that you are talking about now.
Right, the Tali Ban, Al Queda, Hamas, ect... are always careful not to injur, mame, or kill innocent, unarmed, non military persons. They even try not to send homicide bombers to places where there are nothing but civilians. They really try hard to always focus their "wartime aggression" on real military targets!:thumbsup: I am sure they all get together after sending a homicide bomber into a crowded shopping center and really ask themselves "gee how could we better carry out this war without hurting innocent people.":thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
With all do respect I just flatly disagree with you. I understand that you have to believe that in your mind to legitimize what you are saying and that's fine. Everyone should be free to think however they want no matter what that "Asbestos" guy says!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Yeah you are probably right?:wtf: I know you are joking kind of but not really.:jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Again, I just believe you are flat out wrong, and would again bring up my point of how both sides of this war are waging this war. I just can't believe that you (and it's not JUST you, I concede there are millions of people that believe exactly what you are saying) but it just boggles the mind. It is a stark contrast in perception of reality that's for sure! Makes for interesting discussion though so without it none of this would be very worthwhile.:jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
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Originally Posted by devils dream
My bad. I am confused what exactly did you mean by this when you said:Quote:
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Originally Posted by devils dream
Yeah, whatever you say. Perception is reality huh?:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by devils dream
Calm down really this is all supposed to be in good fun huh?:D
Try not to take my opinions about the world we live in too personally OK.:) I really am just trying to honestly tell you how I feel and what I think. No matter what I say it really isn't going to do anything, it's OK I promise.:jointsmile:
sorry i thought it was plainly clear i was stating that there isnt much point in fighting a war where things are repeatedly fucked up and innocent people are being killed by bombs hitting the wrong targets while the terrorist continue acting out their plans.
in other words to dumb it down for you they should get it right then less innocent people will be killed in the process.
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Originally Posted by devils dream
Really so what war has there been where less innocent people have been killed? Really go back to the beginning of time I will wait here for you.
If you know of some way to actually have a war where innocent people don't get killed you should clearly just state it. Otherwise what you are saying is just comical.
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Originally Posted by devils dream
Less?
So what is the exact threshold? If the story was about 10 civillans that were killed, then you would be ok with that and you would be here saying how Bush is some kind of enlightened being because he met your subjective criteria for a "humane war".
You are a funny one!:D
Kush you should understand that one innocent killed creates 100 who hate you for causing thier death , you simply make the problem harder to deal with.
Only a fool can't grasp the concept of revenge and see that incidents like this make a lot more enemies than they do friends.
I love the way the goverment has you convinced of thier ability to tell you who the "enemy" is but don't seem to be able to get thier intelligence right regarding so many other things Bush Upset With 'Flawed Intelligence' - May 14, 2008 - The New York Sun
I hate to burst your bubble but could you explain what Iraq had to do with 9/11 ?
The hijackers were
15 Saudis, 1 Egyptian, 1 Lebanese, 2 from the United Arab Emirates.
No Iraqis , no Afghanis .
Kinda fucks the idea that one or two countries are responsible for all terrorist activity , America has supported terrorists and dictators when it has suited them.
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oh please there is no threshold and innocents will allways get caught up, but fuck me whens it gonna click with you that the more they are getting wrong the less they are getting right and so on and so forth, the more they kill civilians the more civilians will want to kill them, it just becomes a continuous cycle,Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
Is it a war, are the USA and the UK actually at "war" has it officially been declared as a war or are the allied troops killing and being killed for nothing more than the ego's of presidents Bush and Brown.
Perhaps someone could enlighten me.
NCM
Wow. This just keeps getting better.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
I completely understand the difference between mistake and intent, anyone who has basic legal knowledge does. However, since these men are never going to have legal trials and will hide behind uncle sam, we can take it out of legal context.
My earlier argument was that I acknowledge the occurrence of civilian casualties, HOWEVER there is quite a large issue with the amount we have seen throughout both Iraq and Afghanistan.
But actually, I almost can't argue that, seeing as depending on where you look for the stats, they range from 3,000 to about 15,000. Nobody seems to have an accurate figure, nor does the US even try to put forth an effort in consistently recording and reporting civilian deaths.
Hm....could this be because THEY DON'T CARE!?!? I accept that to be true. If you don't, you are in denial yourself. But you of course would think they actually care, because you have to justify your own thoughts when you argue that America does all it can to prevent civilian casualties...and that they are conducting this war with dignity.I understand you need to believe that in your mind to justify what you are saying and that's fine...nice quote worked out well here.
Guess what, the rest of us know that at the end of the day, they don't really care about dead iraqi civilians. Look at how they treat civilians when they are alive, man. They bust into their homes and scream at them to get down, children present - root the house as they please....smells a little like search and destroy to me...What if Russian soldiers came into your house and screamed at you to get down on the ground in Russian while pointing their guns at you and your loved ones. And then, they take you away from your family because you know or have consorted with someone who is linked to 'capitalism'. So this is how they treat them when alive, I'm sorry if I fail to think the administration cares when they are dead.
Lastly, why am I so 'comical' in my arguments, if millions think this way? Have you ever considered that outright support of this war is not directly related to your patriotism. Relax and realize it is okay to question government...you are still a patriot.
In fact, what makes one unpatriotic, IMO, is allowing the government in power to corrupt and ruin the reputation of your country.
In regards to your bit about suicide bombing...fucking duh!
Of course they aren't regarding civilian casualties. Thats what makes them the bad guys. Never did I suggest that they do. Im suggesting that YOU should see the hypocrisy in fighting an enemy you deem to be evil when you do evil things yourself.
Everyone has evil in them. It is just a question of how much.
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Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Hey now! I have only killed "a few" innocents! I am only a little evil!:jointsmile: