Help day 13 flowering Pics sickly

My plant has not been looking so good recently. it is an AK47-Superunk cross.
Day 13 of flowering when the pics were taken a little while ago.

Im useing Botanicare nutrients.

Right now its getting

30ml/gal -Botanicare- Flower
10ml/gal - Botanicare - Sweet citrus
1-2ml/gal- Calmag
Im useing tap water
6.6.-6.8Ph

The temp in the room is 68-75 degrees F

I water every other day pretty much when the top of the soil is no longer moist.

Im useing CO2 it comes out at .7cfh 15 times a day for 15 minutes during the 12 hours of light. I turned the CO2 off yesterday when i noticed the problems

you can see whats wrong in the pictures. Leaves have been bending downward lately art the tips. Also some of them have become an off color of green, lighter than other part sof the plant. Also just recently some leaves are severly bending downward, not just the tips but the whole leaf. Please help thanks let me know if i can provide more info.

its not getting better i will post more pics but someone help!

looks like overnute and/or ph issues. Also perhaps rootbound but can't really know without better info.

Without more information it's pretty hard to say but I'd look at those two issues first.

Good luck.

I don't think you got a big problem, looks like you're just overwatering a bit. Don't water when the top becomes dry, stick your finger in the soil a couple of inches and water when that feels dry or use the weight of the pot to judge when they need watering, water when they feel as tho they're a little under half the weight they were after you last watered.

I'd stop ALL nutes and just use tap water.

Check the ph runoff of your water after you water....i have a feeling your ph is low.

Consider transplanting into fresh quality soil.

Again.....no more nutes for a while.

good luck.

Pics are too blurry and improperly lit to tell anything useful.

Try to get clear pics (set camera on something solid) under natural light. What is your pot size relative to the plants? What is the pH of your RUNOFF?

I see no evidence of tipburn from overfert. But you still may need to flush before you start feeding again. Get that runoff number.

You do know that with CO2 you should be running your temps higher? Bump them up to 80-85'F.

I took more pics today, some of the plant looks a bit better but for the most part im still seeing the same symptoms. The pics are a bit better quality, you can see the ends of the leaves bending. Maybe some discouloration in top leaves under hand?

The pot is a 3 gallon pot with a bit over 2 gallons of soil. The soil has like 10 or 15% perlite in it. not sure what the soil is as i got the plant from someone.

I Took tap water, PHed it to 6.8, and than watered the dry soil(it was time to water tonight). The runoff PHed to 7.1 So does that mean that my ph is off??

Im stopping all nutes for the next couple days.

I stopped useing CO2 but will increase temp when i resume CO2 injection. Thanks let me know if i can provide more info. i really appreciate all the help.

I do not use Botanicare. Prior to them going into the room they were perfect? I would drop the PH down in your watering between 6.1-6.3ph but I don't think that is your issue. I would not keep pulling off the fans unless they are falling off. 13 days into flower looks like it could just be from the transition and the drop in Nitro... Are you using any supplements and what was your CO2 and Nute Schedule like prior to flower? Are the plants eating up what you are throwing at them now? The reason I ask is why stop the feeding if they are eating maybe just cut back to 1/2 strength...


Transplant @ all? WH:thumbsup:
What is the age?
How old are they?
Veg Nutes Schedule?
Veg Time?
Clones,Seeds,Strain? Ak Got It!!!!
What is the PPM of the run off with straight flush?

I'm looking @ your feeding now and not knowing botanicare the names don't appear to have much nitrogen... Could be the issue and like Stink:thumbsup: said keep Temps up with the CO2 82-85 Prime.... I would leave the CO2 on and feed @ 1/2 strength till you have a hand on it....

Well That is my two cents hope all goes well!!!

Good Luck GL

Couple things.
Get some calmag or epsom salts, mix up a weak solution in a spray bottle, give a nice mist to the ladies. Even BETTER, use GH Micro as a foliar spray, diluted nice and weak of course, with a small PINCH of epsom salts added (Mg def is your primary symptom). And one drop dish soap for sticking.
Yes, your soil pH is too high. You will want to make your next feeding at about 6.5 to lower it back into range.
Your leaves have the appearance also of being root-bound. Remember 1 gallon per foot of main stem. Fresh light soil is a beautiful thing!

If that combination does not help, start looking around for other odd stuff going on.
Do you grow near a furnace exhaust that may be leaking either exhaust or fuel fumes?
Have you painted, caulked, fumigated, etc in the grow area recently? What did you use?
Is there a HydroHut tent involved, oh say about 1-1.5 years old, purchased in Cali? (Google Hydrohut Syndrome)
We will get this fixed.

I have a setup very simular to yours and I would transplant those to bigger pots I use 5 galon buckets, and set the plant in up to the top leaving only a couple inches from the top. 3 galon pot setting down in you only have 2 galons of use. look and see if roots are stuffed in the water vent holes in the bottom of the pot. With co2 I bump my ferts untill I burn the tips then back off a little its hard to way over feed with co2. When you transplant to bigger pots I would flush those and start ferts over. with soil up at the top of your pots and useing the full pot your stalk will fatten up and your secondary branches will carry the weight much better. Useing full pots just makes you water a little slower my last harvest got root bound and got cut 5 days early witch didn't hurt but showed me to fill my pots all the way,was useing 3 gallon of a 5 gallon pot.

Well he's using both CalMag AND tap water and I'm not at all sure why. Otherwise Id also love to know the runoff ppm of his soil.....i'll bet its through the roof.

Fresh quality soil offers new nutes at the correct ph which is what these plants need....they are surrounded by (most likely) too many nutes but can't access them due to incorrect ph.....that's why a transplant would most likely solve ALL of the problems at once......the easiest solution.

Otherwise like Stinky says flush at the correct ph......and cut out all the nutes until you figure out exactly what the plant needs and then start adding them back in small amounts while keeping ph stable.

OK here is what i did

I made that spray with calmag very weak, and used it just now.

I also tested the PPM of the runoff with a digital Hanna meter, and i think weedhound may be right although i dont know what the reading means. It was 1800ish because the meter stopped working after it got to that range. it was kind of weird actually.

I can transplant to a 5gallon bucket tomorrow, and buy new soil tomorrow. Should i buy some perlite to add like 10% in with the soil? Also what type of soil should i buy? I live in a small town, we have walmart and this small garden center, as well as home depot. They dont have special soils like hydroponic stores though. Thanks

So should i feed it at a lower PH after transplantation? or how does that work? thanks

I am growing in a "grow cabinet". I originally bought one from homegrownlights.com that was a big mistake. I raped it for parts and built a 6 foot tall cabnit out of wood, and stuck an AC unit in the side. Just to learn how to grow. I made it approx 8 months ago. Have a 400w HPS in it. I have harvested some pretty good dank in there for it being a cabnit though .

Thanks for all the help. really appreciate it because i don't really have anyone to ask near me.

Also like 3 weeks ago i sprayed the whole cabnit down and wiped it(when it was empty of course) with a bleach based spray. I did this because i flowered some males with a female in there so i wanted to get rid of any pollon left over. This couldnt have an effect could it? Thanks for all the help ill provide more pics soon

1800+ PPM run off WOW probably Lock Out!!!!!

If you have a LOWES by you they sell ProMix... Which is probably the best you can get by you w/o a Hydro Shop...

I would just flush a few days check the run off RE-POT 100% ASAP and flush for a few days....


Good Luck GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

You should flush WELL before you transplant, and at the box store get eithe rpromix like GL420 said, or Miracle Grow Organic Choice PLUS PERLITE!!!! It only works right if you add like 30% perlite to the mix. Promix already has it. MG organic is more ferty so you give a bit less fertilizer to start if you use it.

thanks for all the help, my baby is much better!

i really appreciate everyone that helped you saved a life! heh

Nice Job Glad to hear all is well:thumbsup:

Now you will have to smoke a Cyber joint with all of us:D

Here Pass it on-:jointsmile:

GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile: