Can anyone help me figure out what happened to me?

Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me figure out what happened to me quite a long time ago.

I posted a similar message on this forum many years ago, but the responses I got werenâ??t helpful at all and basically consisted of comments that seemed immature such as â??Dood, you smoked some good shitâ?� or â??I wish that happened to meâ?�. So I left. But since this forum has changed quite a bit since the last time I came here, perhaps I will finally get some insight into this.

I posted it here because its more of a health/well-being issue, and Iâ??m sorry if its long.

I had a very strange incident and I couldnâ??t find anyone else who had something like it, and I have been searching for more than a decade, so I really havenâ??t been able to find any answers.

Prior to the incident:

I smoked on a regular basis, on average every two to three days (if not more) non-stop for three years. The very first time I tried, I really didnâ??t feel much of anything, besides feeling happy, and wanting to listen to lots of music. And I tried because my best friend had tried it and said it was not the evil thing it was made out to be, and it wasnâ??t frightening in anyway, and that there were hallucinations or alterations of perception.

I tried it, and he was correct. And I thought, wow, all this negativity and I thought peopleâ??s view on it were way off.

So I began smoking it on a regular basis, and it was great. Every time I smoked I would feel extremely happy, very relaxed, and when it would start to wear off I would feel sleepy. My perceptions wouldnâ??t change, I wouldnâ??t feel anything negative, no hallucinations, no distortions in space or time, no distortions in the physical body, no trails, nothing of the sort. In fact, besides being happy (and getting the occasional cotton-mouth, munchies, and blood-shot eyes) I felt absolutely nothing else. Which was great and the reason I kept doing it.

The incident:

I went to smoke with some friends, just like always. But this stuff smelled different, it stunk and you could literally smell it through anything. The best way I could describe it was like a skunk that had a hint of some sort of chemical. And it was bright green like it was fluorescent green.

About three minutes after smoking it, one of my friends said that their legs were feeling heavy, and I was about to say the same, when everything went to shit. I completely lost consciousness. When I came to which was about 30 seconds later, I began screaming on the top of my lungs, a blood-curdling scream. My whole reality was warped. Space and time were warped in the extreme, my vision was heavily distorted and so was my hearing.

The perception of my body was distorted, and I saw trails in everything. Then I lost consciousness again for several minutes. When I came to again I had the feeling like I was dying. The distortion of reality was even worse now, and I was losing consciousness every few seconds or so and I couldnâ??t maintain control over my thoughts or movements.

Another friend (and his sister) who werenâ??t with us to smoke came and they said I looked different, they said my facial features made me appear as â??not myselfâ?� and they said I was very pale.

His sister immediately realized the situation wasnâ??t normal and quickly took me to her and her husbands place. By this point I stopped losing consciousness, but everything was worse because I was fully aware of the distortions in reality, space and time. And my heart-rate was through the roof. Her husband asked what happened and they explained to him, and he quickly told me to lie down on the sofa and turned off all the lights and eliminated any noise.

I stayed there for about 4 hours without anything changing. After that, the distortions in reality began going away, but I still saw trails everywhere, and my mind was hazy with several instances of my consciousness blacking out, but I didnâ??t actually faint and was able to respond I simply couldnâ??t remember what I did during it.

2 hours after that I regained full consciousness, but there were trails everywhere and my perceptions of my body and movement were way off and delayed. I felt really hungry but I couldnâ??t eat anything (I donâ??t know if it was because I smoked, or because it was several hours since I last ate).

But they took me home and I went to bed, and every time I would move I would feel the distortions in the perception of my body and movement, and I didnâ??t like it.

I slept for at least 12 hours. When I woke up, I felt absolutely amazing. I felt more awake and alert than ever before, and it seemed like my consciousness was more awake than ever before. The next day, I felt extremely exhausted.

But there were left over effects. Right before I went to sleep, or when I felt tired, I would get the distortions in movement. This lasted for about 6 months after the incident, and I would happen every night. It finally started to go away slowly after the 6 month period but it would still happen, just not as frequent. The other thing was that if I ever started to remember the incident or anything associated with it, I would begin to feel as if it were about to happen again and I would being to panic, which would set off distortions in my perception of movement. There was also a song that played during the incident and it too would trigger those feelings.

Even simply smelling the smoke would trigger the feeling of the incident happening again, and I had to leave whenever I was around it.

I decided to go to the doctor and tell him what happened and how I was feeling and with all this weirdness. He referred me to a neurologist. The neurologist ran a whole slew of tests, EEG, CAT-scan, MRI, blood work, hormone/endocrine/neuro tests, and they all came out normal, and said there was absolutely nothing wrong, and that everything was fine.

So, I was literally stumped as to what happened to me. Especially since nothing ever happened to others that smoked the exact same stuff.

I did receive a federally mandated vaccine (for Hep-B), as did everyone else who smoked the same stuff, one week before the incident and I donâ??t know if that had anything to do with it.

So to say the least, I havenâ??t smoked in over a decade.

What do you guys think happened here?

Was it that I smoked one type of weed for all that time and then all of a sudden smoked the other kind (Indica and then Sativa, or vice-versa)?

Was another substance possibly added to the marijuana?

Any theories?

It could be a combination of things. It sounds like it was some pretty good stuff and possibly a different strain than you were used to. I suspect it might of been laced with pcp.(Hope I don't get banned for this,I'm just trying to help). I've had experiences like that in the old days when pcp laced pot was a lot more common. Its also possible that it wasn't properly flushed during the last 2 weeks of its life so you ended up smoking some nutes.

That sounds like some laced shit.

Something similar happened to me though. I was running around thinking I was going to die, I couldn't see, and I saw black blobs everywhere. I don't know if this is what happened to you though.

The reason smoke and being reminded by the events triggers them again is because it was such a negative event that you never want to remember it again. If you really really want to start smoking again then you could probably find a way to supress those thoughts but I wouldn't smoke again until you're able to do that.

Oops. I meant to put "and that there were not any hallucinations or alterations of perception" (11 lines down in the first post)

Thats why I tried it.

But yeah, it was definitely odd, and frightening.

I mean if sick people (like cancer and aids patients) smoke it to feel better than I definitely hope this isnt a common thing.

My girlfriends mother had recently started smoking with us ocassionally. She would get kinda jumpy and on edge when she was high, but it would go away quickly. One day though she smoked by herself at her apartment and ended up calling 911 because she thought she was going to die. Ended up being a panic attack. I suspect that if this weed was not laced, this is what happened to you. Do you know if you are susceptable to anxiety? Because the stuff that she smoked was mine, and I had been smoking on that for 2 weeks straight.

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Originally Posted by bombdiggity

My girlfriends mother had recently started smoking with us ocassionally. She would get kinda jumpy and on edge when she was high, but it would go away quickly. One day though she smoked by herself at her apartment and ended up calling 911 because she thought she was going to die. Ended up being a panic attack. I suspect that if this weed was not laced, this is what happened to you. Do you know if you are susceptable to anxiety? Because the stuff that she smoked was mine, and I had been smoking on that for 2 weeks straight.

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Yeah, thats what I initially thought.

But I've seen people freak out, and usually its just expressed as extreme paranoia and high feelings of anxiety, which disappears quite rapidly.

My experience was coupled with major distortions in space,time and reality, bouts of unconsciousness and it lasted a very long time. I guess to an extent it also included a dissociative aspect to it as well.

Can anxiety create such perceptual distortion/reality warping events to occur?

Am I prone to anxiety? I'd have to say at that point in time, when it happened, no. But immediately after the incident, I would panic whenever I remembered it, or if anything triggered a memory of it. And I have had maybe 4 or 5 anxiety type attacks in the past 10 years or so .... and they were in the months/years immediately preceding the incident .... and slowly went away as more time went on. I guess you could say it was a flashback and I feared the flashback and the memory.

Mainly because the flashback and memory would set off the same physical sensations again. For example, right now as I type and remember the incident I still get residual sensations that I got that day .... I'm not scared ... I dont like it ... but it only happens when I remember or think about that day.

Actually I just remembered something else that happened during the incident .... things were repeating. The sounds, the voices, the song, the movement .... so it was like everything was happening twice.

Well... the effects you described are indeed very unusual for weed, no matter how potent it can be... and as you said the weed smelled "different", it seems it was laced indeed.
I know its the usual thing people says when hear about stories like this... "the weed was laced"... mostly it was not, it was just some good weed... but the effects you described are in fact much like the effects of PCP (which is the most common thing used for lacing weed).
I would suggest you to look at the link below... maybe youll find some interesting info there... and maybe the answers you need.

Erowid PCP (Phencyclidine) Vault

NOTE: Please mods be sensible and dont take this as "other drug talk"...

BTW, the bad feelings you get when remember this are into your mind. I know its hard to fight against our own mind, but if you really wish, you can overcome them... and be able to smoke again... so, good luck! :thumbsup:

similar event happened to me a year or two ago. just a bowl or two of some good shit i guess, and i had an awful panic attack and there was a cop talking to us about the fireworks we had, it was fucking insane. never stoped tokin' though, and i havnt had an experience like it since.

You had marijuana laced with pcp. sounds like a very sativa heavy that got laced if you ask me.
I know this cuz I once had some schwag that was laced.
it was the worst experience of my life and for 3-4 months after I would experience flash backs and things what set of the same distortion of time and space I felt while high on it.
After a good 5 to 6 months its totally normal

I had a similar experience the first time I smoked. I had never done any mind-altering substance and I smoked 2 GRAMS of sativa alone. The resulting experience made me consider suicide multiple times: racing heart, altered perceptions, broken-record thoughts, shaking, extreme anxiety and depression, along with the guilt that I could have lead myself to psychosis by trying to have some fun. My consciousness bobbed in and out, I felt as if I was being drowned/knocked out and awoken multiple times every minute. After the experience, for something like 6 months, I too experienced unprecedented panic attacks and what is called Depersonalization Disorder, a chronic (no pun intended :P) sense of disattachment.

Because of the brain's plasticity, the more you do something, the more easily the brain repeats that neuronal pattern. This can be good when you are learning a new skill; but if you smoke and it ends in anxiety the brain can create a kind of "shortcut" to anxiety. Any stimuli, particularly the smell of weed can trigger this similar response. Similarly, I have seen heavy DXM users vomit at the sight/smell of cough syrup.

I enjoy smoking myself but oftentimes, being an anxiety-ridden person, smoking too much sativa can send me into chemical hell until I calm down.

Needless to say, I am still enjoying marijuana today. I would recommend trying a FEW hits of weed. If you drink alcohol, that can definitely take the edge off if you are an anxious smoker.

Weed is rarely unknowingly laced - coke/pcp are expensive. Who would waste them on an unsuspecting smoker?

Good luck on your journey.

-Fnatic.

Watch the documentary, Should I Smoke Pot for an example of a newb who got her hands on some potent weed and wasn't prepared. She was a mess the first time, but the next day she smoked some hash and was goofy high.:jointsmile:

My fav bud is lime green skunky bud like sour/super skunk. I bugged out once or twice from good bud both of them had a skunk smell. One time I felt like I was traveling through space I got a really numb face and legs and the other time was my first time smoking and everything turned black and white. I know a lot of people who we say â??canâ??t smokeâ?� anymore, they used to smoke for 5 plus yrs then stop and when they start smoking again the effects seem to be stronger and hallucinogenic causing some people to have panic attacks, a racing hearts, paranoia ,and other symptom. Its seems like your having flash backs, like when someone has a really bad trip sometimes they still feel the effects of it at random times in there life. If you never tripped before this can be freighting if it happens to you, but if does happen again just remember â??calm down, everything that you are seeing and hearing is not realâ?� get some water and relax if its too much call an ambulance not the cops. That must have been some good stuff, I smoked a cannabis cup bud from 03 that made feel like I was sinking threw the couchâ?¦ lol

I bet it was a combination of things, probably it was extremely good weed, possibly laced but probably not if no one else felt those crazy effects, and I think the reason that you still experienced things long after, and since the neurologist couldn't find anything wrong, its probably psychological. The fact that the smell of the smoke triggers the feeling is a perfect example of classical conditioning. A psychologist could possibly help if you know one, maybe he could help you get back to smoking the herb once again. :rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by purplehaze11

I bet it was a combination of things, probably it was extremely good weed, possibly laced but probably not if no one else felt those crazy effects, and I think the reason that you still experienced things long after, and since the neurologist couldn't find anything wrong, its probably psychological. The fact that the smell of the smoke triggers the feeling is a perfect example of classical conditioning.

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I agree, I assume my mind associated events/feelings that I had that day with everything that was present during those moments. I wish it didnt, but I guess my mind saw it as a threat, and automatically did it. Although I think because so much time went by it is disappearing on its own.

Well I wouldnt say others never had a bad reaction to the same stuff. They did, mine was just the very extreme one, and thats why it left me puzzled as to what really happened that day.

Others had (not that same day, but in the days ahead when they smoked the same stuff again), vomited, passed out, and had some type tremor/almost a convulsion. And many said they had terrible headaches. Which never ever happened before.

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Originally Posted by killerweed420

Watch the documentary, Should I Smoke Pot for an example of a newb who got her hands on some potent weed and wasn't prepared. She was a mess the first time, but the next day she smoked some hash and was goofy high.:jointsmile:

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I watched it on YouTube. On there its called "Should I Smoke Dope" and its in 6 parts. Its pretty good, although many comments left by viewers are very harsh and call it propaganda ... personally I thought it was well done ... although I dont believe her when she said "I'll stick to alcohol and cigarettes" at the end ... yeah right its more like you dont want your kids to know.

But there was several statements she made when she was high the first time, and a few times after. She said she felt a "delay" especially concerning movement. I personally never felt any such delay or time distortion when I used to smoke ... until the day of the incident. But somehow I dont think it was the same as her's, since she was quite calm about it and mentioned nothing of distortion in reality.

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Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... the effects you described are indeed very unusual for weed, no matter how potent it can be... and as you said the weed smelled "different", it seems it was laced indeed.
I know its the usual thing people says when hear about stories like this... "the weed was laced"... mostly it was not, it was just some good weed... but the effects you described are in fact much like the effects of PCP (which is the most common thing used for lacing weed).
I would suggest you to look at the link below... maybe youll find some interesting info there... and maybe the answers you need.

Erowid PCP (Phencyclidine) Vault

NOTE: Please mods be sensible and dont take this as "other drug talk"...

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Thank you for the link. Its eerily similar to what I experienced. And from that link it seems like I had all of the negative effects, and none of the positive or neutral ones.

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Originally Posted by Fnatic

Weed is rarely unknowingly laced - coke/pcp are expensive. Who would waste them on an unsuspecting smoker?


-Fnatic.

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Well, it may have been done on purpose .... to me that is. This stuff was sold for a lot more than I was used to (which was obtained from a stranger by one of my friends), but it was touted as "the best" so I never questioned it.

So it could have being adultered by this stranger or by that one friend ... for who knows what reason. If I knew better back then, I shouldnt have taken anything that initially came from a stranger.

Because really it wasnt fun one bit! In fact if someone came to me right now and said you can go through the same thing that happened that day, or you can go into a cage with two hungry lions .... I would take my chances with the lions! LOL




Ok on a off topic question. Can someone describe exactly what is meant by "mind high" versus "body high"?

I've seen it mentioned lots on the forum, but I really have no clue what the two actually and literally mean. For me, when I used to get high all I would feel was happy, relaxed, sleepy, with the occasional munchie/cotton-mouth/blood-shot eyes .... and absolutely nothing else.

I have one question, who would waste their PCP on weed and sell it normal price?

nvm i read above comment


And a body high is indica, really heavy legs maybe numb and i get couchlock sometimes where i just want to sit and not move. Head highs are more uplifting and your body feels numb in an energetic way sorta, for me atleast.

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Originally Posted by WillyX

Ok on a off topic question. Can someone describe exactly what is meant by "mind high" versus "body high"?

I've seen it mentioned lots on the forum, but I really have no clue what the two actually and literally mean. For me, when I used to get high all I would feel was happy, relaxed, sleepy, with the occasional munchie/cotton-mouth/blood-shot eyes .... and absolutely nothing else.

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Well... this effects you said you used to get when smoked are what we usually call the "body high"... cause it is felt more by the body (relaxed feelings, sleepiness, etc), and are caused by Indica strains.

The "mind high" effects are caused by Sativa strains... and are felt mainly by the mind: you think 1,000 things at the same time (and forget them one instant later), everything seems "sharper", like, you can hear even the faintest sounds loudly, the colors seems far brighter, far vivid, the smells and tastes are far stronger also, the time seems to have slowed down (one minute in the clock feels like one hour for you), the feeling of perspective is lost, so the world seems "flat"... sometimes, when the high is too intense, you can get the "frame vision", when it seems youre seeing the world like if it were a movie being played frame-by-frame, very slowly, so you see one static scene, then after a moment you see another static scene, and so... for some people, this effects are a bit scary, and may cause panic attacks for the unexperienced ones... there are still a lot of other effects, but this ones are the ones i remember right now.

It seems you got some of this effects when you had that bad experience... so maybe your experience was result of smoking a laced sativa strain... the sativa strain causing some effects, and the lacing substance other effects.

I wish to thank everyone for their replies. They have definitely helped answer a lot questions I had.

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