LED...The Second Coming...

Hello again all, and welcome to "LED...The Second Coming..."

Few changes from the first go round. Mylar removed, walls primer/painted flat/matte white. 8k BTU portable AC (pic) with the exhaust in the hole the AC used to come in. (pic)

8 of 8 Plan B Smashberry F2s popped!!!...so happy:jointsmile: Out of these a few mums will come. Gonna take 7-10 cuttings from each mum, and flower the clones with the mums, minus 2 clones, from hopefully 2 moms, which I hope to bonsai mom...from the Styrofoam they go to 1 gal (6in) pots...for SOG

3 of 5 SNLxNH popped...others look good n fat, so any day...they will go in 3gal pots, and LST or SCROG...still haven't decided...should soon i guess, lol.

I think thats all for now, we'll keep ya updated.
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whiskeytango

oh yeah...really stoned sorry, but the AC takes 2x2 outta the room,
so now we got almost 7x2, so the 3 procyons will have a much brighter footprint, they look SO bright with the flat white, more so than the mylar...I am sure thats gonna be a huge difference too.
whiskeytango:smokin:

sprouts this morning...woo-hoo!!! ALL the Plan B Smashberrys popped outta the dirt, and 4 of the SNLxNH...I moved some dirt around, and that 5th one is coming, maybe too much dirt above seed... The room is definitely brighter with the paint than it was with the mylar...pic from last grow for comparison...
guess thats all....
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whiskeytango

Ok....thats a bit better with those SNLs......:thumbsup:

lol...all the posts and everything from yesterday are missing...even some rep....weird...
whiskeytango

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lol...all the posts and everything from yesterday are missing...even some rep....weird...
whiskeytango

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I think all posts on the 16th of May...took a hike...:wtf:

oh well...carry on...:thumbsup:

and we have.........100% germination!!! woo-hoo, thats never happened to me...Must be the storks skills, lol...gotta thank that lil bird for these amazing beans(thanks gusy!!!)...:thumbsup::hippy::jointsmile:
whiskeytango

Looks like you got the perfect setup the second time around. Sns I'm thinking of getting a procyon or 2 for a closet grow, but dont want to cut any holes in the wall. Do you think I would have a heat problem with 1 procyons in a 3x4x7.5ft closet? Could I get away with 2?
good luck :cool:

They BETTER have hatched......:wtf:

congrats on ur germ success!

Hey good to see another time around:thumbsup::thumbsup:

The last grow with the 3 Yielded how much?

Do you think there will be any major changes this time around?

Well Good Luck :jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

thanks all!!....and welcome back to C-dot...I had bad withdrawls, dont know about you guys....lol

aaa...you could get away with one, but with 2 you may need small intake/exhaust....If you really dont wanna cut a hole, get a couple fans, and crack the door when the lights are on, with a wal-mart stand up long fan? (you know what I am talking about?) Its not fan blades, its like a long squirrel cage...eh....fuck it, I hope you know what Im talking about...lol
GL, last 3 plants yielded 63g, all 23in plants...and yes, I will go as far as to say once i get the room full, I will be pulling 2.5g/w...I know, steep claims, but I am doing the room completely different this time, the SOG, and LST...
I think thats all, pics up tomorrow before I leave for the casino...poker tournament...wish me luck:jointsmile::thumbsup:
whiskeytango

WOW BIG BIG CHANGE.....

I will be completely sold and investing in PROCYONS.. LOL

SOG,LST How many? Per light..

That's great to hear

Good Luck :thumbsup:

on finishing your first grow log. Wow, forty something pages long. Lots of attitudes there. Anyway, good to see a second grow coming right along. Good luck!

Sho

lol...thanks shov...there were some "personalities" in that one huh?...
whiskeytango

definitely will be following this, can't wait to see what a scrog or lst produces under the led's. my buddy is getting huge panels made for his grow room, 1000 w a piece (i think, i was really stoned off white widow and hash when talking to him), all the right spectrums, for 200. so i might have one made too for vegging or cloning or something good :jointsmile:

Stealth forgive me for being such a stoner but on your last grow did you start from seeds or clones?

I applaud you for your use of flat white instead of mylar.
Your first grow was an interesting read. I will be following this one now... very very curious to see how well you can maximize your yield. Good luck with your new setup!

all beans WH....only cloned a few times in the past, getting back on the mommy wagon this go round though...:thumbsup::jointsmile:
whiskeytango

thanks for a great read on your first log and i can't wait to see this one unfold (lol, i'll try not to show too much 'personality', wait, that wasn't me, lol)

anyway, you guys are doing a great job, an inspiration to us all!

now, go smoke some of that herbage you grew man!

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Looks like you got the perfect setup the second time around. Sns I'm thinking of getting a procyon or 2 for a closet grow, but dont want to cut any holes in the wall. Do you think I would have a heat problem with 1 procyons in a 3x4x7.5ft closet? Could I get away with 2?
good luck :cool:

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how about going to Home Depot and buying an extra closet door, one you can cut a hole in?

update....still at 100%, although got a few tiny issues...
1st pic...curled leafs on SNLxNH...ever seen this WH?, got 3 doing it...still look healthy though
gotta few real red stems too, and some soggy droopage, poked a bout 6 more holes in the bottom of each cup... other than that...they look good...Man, I hate the first 2 weeks...till they really start moving...
whiskeytango

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They look wet Stealth.....let them dry. Mine get like that as well when I first put them in hydro and they get too wet. Yes...more drainage for the little beasts.

Also....do you know the ph of the water you are using?

Ph is at 6.9-7....gonna lower it down a weee once i water again...thanks WH!
WT

Aloha Stealth,

Congrats on your 1st LED grow.

Question: I missed your reason for canning the mylar and going with flat white paint????? My understanding is mylar reflects approx 95% while flat white paint reflects approx 85%???????

Also: You might consider adding 6 or 8 low watt (6500 daylight CPF) to your veg stage, & switching to (4800 warm CPF) for flowering. I did a combo of the 14 watt kits, with CPF's to fill the light spectrum, and fill from some different light angles.

Alohaa

I second that! let them dry out but not too much :thumbsup:
I'm a over watering nuckle head too doh!

Awesome! I missed watching the first grow...looks like you got some exciting improvements on this one, can't wait!

so, the stash awards are going to be in the next issue of high times...i wouldn't be too surprised to see the Procyon 100 receive one, I have a friend that is close to those folks and mentioned a rumor when we were chatting the other night. Hope you don't feel like one of those emo kids that ends up hating the procyons after they get popular ;).

There already popular, try and get one right now! Great job on your last post, I stepped in line on got 8 14 wt X Lamp kit's. I'll be combining it with my 8% blue flowerforcer 900 led array. Keep the experiments alive, for its because of people like yours effort to inform that we have advanced this far in are scene.

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Hope you don't feel like one of those emo kids that ends up hating the procyons after they get popular

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Haha, I didn't know there was already a stereotype for emo kids hating LED grow lights.

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SNS I have one Procyon I had it about 18 inches above the plants from seeding since May 1st they were getting to be approximately to be about a foot tall and were stuck at about that height I moved it up to 4 feet above the plants last week and have noticed a lot better growth from doing so. I have experienced no turning of the leaves from any of my growing but they are sitting up a lot better since doing so. I am still using the mirrors as I said I was before and the moving up has helped. The mirrors do seem to spread the light better to all the plant I see little shade anywhere on the plants. I'll check in occasionally to give updates I'm going to start flwering in another two weeks I have 5 plants going and they are all looking good

FUCK EMO KIDS!!!! lol....no fret gents, an emo cry baby i wont soon be...I wish my grass was emo, so It would cut itself....heh

and you guys are right, thanks to us (pats back) they are sold out, and back ordered for a while....we got 3, well, 4 now...so look forward to a solo procyon grow in the next few days....
thefan....check on the grow log section, and the first LED grow is stickied there
thanks roundabout!!!....been saying that all along
whiskeytango

ok....so the first LED grow we only used one procyon to start the seedlings.....being that there is almost no heat, i went ahead and started them under all 3....do you guys think i burnt them with the LEDs....not sure what the FUCK is going on...got a little new growth, but the leaves appear burnt, and the 3rd leaves are starting out, but not growing vert...just stacking on each other...I dont want to,.....but if these guys are past recovery, I need to scrap them...and that will HURT!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
whiskeytango

try pics again........

ouch, that's not good. Maybe it is too much light for them... 3 Procyons wow, that seems way overkill for lil babies, I think they only need a little bit of light at first. Try cutting back to just one like you did the first time, then after a couple of weeks add them back.

Anyways, what kind of soil mix are they in?

fox farm ocean forrest....i didnt think i could overkill them with the LEDs....hmmm, food for thought for ya physicsnole....hopefully they bounce back...
whiskeytango

Overfert. It's been written time and time again... FFOF is too hot for seedlings. Use Happy Frog or an inert seedling mix instead. Also looks like the effects of superthrive OD (which is technically an extreme N overdose). Looks very wet too. Flush well, add drainage, cross your fingers, but start more because seedlings rarely recover into healthy plants from a stressor that severe in their earliest life stages.
Small seedlings need a LOT of light or they will stretch and flop. As much light as possible without increasing temps to the burn point.

SNS I tried planting some clones and put them under the light it killed them all. but the plants I planted are doing great there is no discoloring of the leaves at all. I only water them every 4 days it seems to help in them growing not watering them as much.

Maybe all that light is overkill. Why not try just one light to start them off, or switch to some floros until they take off, then switch back to LED? Stinky's right about the rest of it. But for seedlings maybe too much LED light is like too much ferts. Less is better, until they're strong enough to handle it.