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I took 6-7 seeds and slipt them open with a knife and took the stuff inside the shell and separated them. after i got all the stuff out of the shells i put in my mouth and chewed up they are still soaking in my mouth almost all gone.
i havent ate yet at all today and ive been awake for about 4 hours. i have been smoking chronic all day tho and will continue to do so. i will update with my experience to follow
nothing. its been about 2.5 hours
take more seeds maybe?
or smoke more weed
or get sum new good drugs
like mushrooms,dxm,acid
at least u have a better chance to trip on those drugs then u do with seeds
later
i took 5 and after 1 hour of nausea i had the best high ever!
You gotta eat more than five seeds, theres only traces of ergoline in the seeds. You gotta eat alot of seeds. Thats the only reason your supposed to treat them with lighter fluid because if you eat enough seeds for a dose you will also eat enough fatty acids to make you sick as hell. People make shit up all the time and say they'er tripping when they really not. They act like they are tripping.
See this is what you need. You need some sort of cracked out device to prepare or smoke your fix.
First you build a still, which is slightly more complicated than a bong, because it must be air tight and whitstand heat. It must also be able to be disassembled for cleaning.
Once you figure out how to build your still (it is extremely tedious and frustrating) and you construct it you'll want to test your system with water and get it going to the point where you can distill water. It will take along time to build and get the system up and running, in the mean time you can grow your plants, Marijuana, H.W., ect for raw starting materials.
Once you can distill water you'll be ready for something more flammable, like acetone. You'll need a flameless burner and spark free, cool, well ventalated environment. After you sucessfully distill acetone you'll be ready for petroleum ether (camp fuel/naptha). By the time you get to the camp fuel if you have been planning ahead you should have H.B. seeds to treat (or yeast/sugar). remeber stills are hard and frustrating to make and you can always modify your system as you go if it is not working well. But for most of us with practice and experience making bongs and pipes building a still should be an interesting and fruitful experience.
The methanol can be substituted with liquor, the higher proof the better 90% would be excellent but 70% should work. Liquor is expensive, however and isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) is much cheaper which may be able to work as a methanol substitute.
Indole alkaloids: chanoclavine, ergometrine, penniclavine, elymoclavine.
thanks for all the replies guys. im a little confused on the still thing. i have never heard of this b4 and dont quite understand what i would be doing with it? treating seeds? why?
i think today i am going to take about 15 seeds and crush them and up make a tea. should i use really hot water to make the tea or should i just let the seeds soak in normal water? i was thinking the hot water may make the seeds lose potency or the steam would take some of it when it evaporates?
i had read a lot of stuff about HBRW and it seems like 8 seeds was a normal dosage i guess not.
We'll I would not make a decision on eating more seeds than you normally do based on my advice, but I've tried that shit and it never worked for me.
All treating the seeds is is soaking the finely ground seeds in a organic solvent to dissolve the stuff in the seeds that makes you nausious. The you dry then out completly. The only reason you would distill the solvent is because most commercially available sovents will not evaporate off completely cause there cut with poison to discourage drug preparation usage.
And the problem with hot water is that the indoles are sensitive to heat and will quickly decompose.
Its cool to distill alcohol though cause once you get it going you can start making funky shit. It's like when you scrap a bowl or roll a joint and play with your weed.
You sit there with beer and wait for more of the good stuff to drip out the end.
The only problem is the DEA & FDA might come knocking on your door if word gets out you got a still. Thats the same reason you can't buy reaget grade chemicals cause They might want to ask you a few questions. The same as if your growing weed. But if your skilled mabey you could get a little absinthe brewing.
Okay never mind
This still was on the web. "The Pelican"
sounds like too much trouble and time . i just wanna trip man lol