stinkyattic please help...

here are some pics of whats going on..
in my oyher thread i talked about lite green leafs in middle of plant, but got some new issiues look at these 2 days ago i seen this problem and drained my res it was at 1000 to 1200 ppm and 5.8 ph but 7 days old water, so but when i pyt the new water in i didnt use just water i put nutes at 800 ppm and ph at 5.8 the plants havent changed in 2 days from what you see what do you think i should do or anyone else who wants to help would be thankfull..
once again ive been in veg for 10 days plants are growing but have these problems 18 on 6 off ppm 800 to 900 ph 5.8 temp around 74 to 76 all the time hum% 55 65 % all the time im running water 15 min on and 45 off for every hour the light is on, today i changed that to 15 on and 45 off all the time thinking that would help the light green leaves please hlp..
got some good strans i think there hawian mist, white rino, i think shishkaberry, and jock horrer, once again thanks for any help:pimp:

Have you sprayed anything on the leaves themselves? And did those little plants come from clones?

You are checking your ph everyday right? And adjusting it back to 5.8.....sometimes folks just adjust it at the beginning and then don't check it daily. Do you?

I'd also consider lowering the humidity to about 40% if the clones are well rooted. (i think they're clones.....)

yes they are clones and yes i check ppm and ph every day, and today i sprayed for mite problems just in case right before lights went out so leaves wont burn. also ive heard that 50 to 60% humidity was good during veg is that true.
thanks again..

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yes they are clones and yes i check ppm and ph every day, and today i sprayed for mite problems just in case right before lights went out so leaves wont burn. also ive heard that 50 to 60% humidity was good during veg is that true.
thanks again..

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Hi Westbuds,
During veg growth Humidity can be kept at an even 50%.
During Flower 30% to 40% to ensure that Botrytis or mould will attack the buds
This is only my word, so to be sure wait for more replies to cofirm it.:thumbsup:

thanks greenthing ill consider

OK westbuds no probs and good luck :thumbsup:

Sorry but i can not see how to edit so i have to post it agian as i made a small boo boo.
Hi Westbuds,
During veg growth Humidity can be kept at an even 50%.
During Flower 30% to 40% to ensure that Botrytis or mould will not attack the buds
This is only my word, so to be sure wait for more replies to cofirm it.
The word not is my edit. silly me who would want mold attacking there plant. Doh!

hey one more thing greenthing do you think i should run my watter cycles 15 on and 45 off all the time or just 15 on and 45 off for every hour the light is on?

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hey one more thing greenthing do you think i should run my watter cycles 15 on and 45 off all the time or just 15 on and 45 off for every hour the light is on?

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Sorry I have not grown the way that you are growing, so i cant help you with that one.
I sure someone will help you with it.;)

here are some more pics of my cloner i made this is were i started my clones and then i transferd the net pot into larger pot for flood table.and im using reverse osmosos water just in case anyone whos trying to help me needs to know.
if anybody needs to know more info please ask .
thanks for all help i hope my plants pull through i have alot involved in this task if you know what i mean:D

i forgot to ask should i cut the leaves that are looking bad off my plants or wait it out for a few?

The new growth on those looks good- Some scarring and deficiencies on low leaves is to be expected with clones; the leaves that were on the cutting when it was taken always seem to fall off or end up looking scruffy. It's only when you don't get vigorous, healthy new growth that you should really be worried. Your conditions sound good and look good. If you didn't pre-soak your clay rox to set the pH before adding plants, you'll want to keep an eye on them and adjust the res pH frequently until it is stable, but things look good up in thurrrrr.
The light green leaves in the middle of the plant, if they don't improve, are worrisome though. Would you mind posting a closer pic of the worst affected plant- the whole plant, showing the top view and a sort of diagonal side view showing both upper and lower growth?
Edit: You are using calmag right?

hi stinkyattic thanks for responding,
no im not using calmag didnt know i was supposed to lol..
also i sprade som fungicide 3 in 1 got it from wall mart is that good? here are some more pics. also looking at plants today and looks like other leaves are getting the same look to them just a little. thanks for all your help hope we can make it right;)

i forgot to ask you somthing else, can i get the calmag anywere else other than the indoor store?
because if not i cant do anything about this untill anouther day or two. do you think ill be ok for that long or not? the indoor store is close on sundays:(

Wb...are you using tap water or RO water? What nutes are you using exactly?

How do the roots on your plants look? Any chance for a photo of them?

im useing reverse osmosos and im useing general hydro nutes and the roots look good and white and strong nutes are at 900 ppm they was at 1100 and i flushed 2 days ago.

Ooh they got worse and now they look like distinctive Ca deficiency!
And we have a winner!
Your whole problem stems from a lack of calcium in the plants' diets. It SHOULD be listed as a macro nute along with NPK, it's so important, lol!! But usually you can get it from tap water or the soil itself, so hydro growers need to supplement.
There is a sticky by Latewood called 'GH 3 part and calmag- all you need'. Find it, read it, memorize it. haha.
You probably won't be able to find it at a place other than a hydro shop. But it's so important that even if you have to mail order it with a rush delivery to save your plants, do it.
The fungicide 3 from walmart is a cheap neem oil treatment, and is great for treating stupid mites. Be careful not to spray too heavily. Mist lightly, let dry, wait a day, mist again. It's good stuff but you can overdo it. Go to a once weekly treatment when you notice the leaves are nice and shiny.

can i use a remidy for calmag because my indoor store is closed on mondays and im scared to wate untill tuesday...

I can't think of anything offhand. If you are running the GH 3-part, look on the back of the 'micro' bottle ( I don't have my trusty GH Micro at hand at the moment or I'd go check for ya) and if it has a significant calcium content, you can mix up a spray bottle at about half the strength it gives for the res, and do a light foliar feed to halt the spread of the deficiency until you can remedy the source of the problem.

I think it's got like .5 or 5% of mag & cal

I was thinking about flushing the res & putting about 150ppm, do you think that's a good idea? on top what you said to do. thanks.

Honestly....if your photos represent your plants well I'd just wait until Tuesday and get some CalMag.

I see some leaf twist in one of those photos be sure your Ph is on....

If you can't get to a specialty store go to wally or home d and get some bone meal and soak it in water (or any tea making process you like) and feed. Bonemeal has like 22% CA. You probably have it fixed but now you know for next time. Good luck