A friend of mine has an excellent strain of Purple Kush. He was wondering if there was a way to create a hermie {stress, aspirin, etc} as to produce a male Kush for breeding.
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A friend of mine has an excellent strain of Purple Kush. He was wondering if there was a way to create a hermie {stress, aspirin, etc} as to produce a male Kush for breeding.
in doing that the hermie trait will pass to the offspring and its very hard to get rid of if you can. your best bet is to find a very similar plant and breed with that to increase its vigor and to have a non hermi strain
Take the plant to 12/12 lighting and screw with the lighting schedule about 4 days in a row. Bet that does it.
Ps....I wouldn't consider a plant that hermies due to extreme stress (like fucking around with the lighting constantly) something with a "hermie trait." I think any cannabis plant will hermie if you stress it enough.....nature.
BUT a plant that hermies EASILY or for no real reason would be one I wouldn't breed. ;)
I agree with WH but isn't the usual fem technique to stick another desirable female in the mix to be pollenated after intentionally stressing the original gal?
Hey Tex,Quote:
Originally Posted by texas grass
That is really a non-issue now a days. Dutch Masters' makes a foliar fed product called "Reverse", that with two applications does away with any male flowers, hence pollen, hence seeds. It works.
BTW all MJ is hard wired to go "hermie", it's just that some go trans- gender easier then others.
Can't say I agree Reverse makes things a non-issue......you want to breed the best....not the best you can breed with a foliar spray to keep things in check.
Ps....I like the idea of putting another non-hermied plant in there.....but now you're getting pretty complicated.....different grow rooms with all different lighting and flowering things.....
I'm growing 12 plants from fem seeds. Twelve seeds, twelve females.
To get these seeds I had one (of six) Afghani plants hermie. I never even seen the balls, must have been very few. This hermie powdered the rest of the crop, including a bubblegum plant. I am growing the seeds from that bubblegum. They are at 3 1/2 weeks into flowering now. They are all very much the same, clone like, actually. If they hermie I'll let you all know. But, I don't really expect them to do that. I have quite a few fem seeds from the Afghanis, Foxy seed afghani x bog medley and Bubblegum.
Shov
I agree it does seem complicated, but going totally minimal with CFLs and a makeshift tent in a dark area with a little ventilation would be worth it if the cross were a keeper.
Shov, maybe call that mix IEB: Improvised Explosive Bubble? :D
(ooooh war joke, too soon)
Did you toss the self'd seeds or you planning on running 'em sometime?
You can't agree? or is it your "hydro guy" telling ya'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
I thought these BB's was for the exchange of ideas and not the passing on of bullshit.
I personally can not afford to have a crop "go to seed" unintentionally. That is what I would term a crop failure.
I use reverse even with strains I have never had a hermie problem with, but figure it's good insurance. By using this product, it does not change any genetics or cause any mutations.
So how does the use of this product change wanting to breed the best?
BTW you might be surprised how many BARRELS of that stuff is sold in Holland. LOL
Wow....don't mind discussion either....but don't need rude remarks from boneheads like you as well.
Guess what....that's my own opinion and I honestly couldn't give a shit what they sell barrels of in Holland.
All human beings get colds too....good genetics would lean toward those who get sick less and get less sick.
Go stick your head back up your ass so the rest of us will be better off.
So, all of your rhetoric supports your opinon how???Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
If you like my use of "reverse" you'll just love my use of "vertical growth inhibitor". Yup, I screw with the plants chemical balance; but I can grow a pure Thai sativa (udorn thani '71) that grows 12+ feet normally and grow it in my flat roof greenhouse that has only 8' floor to roof clearance. Better living thru chemistry.
Note to Weedy: I've lived my entire life with one philosiphy; try to learn something new everyday. And in the 78 years I've been on God's green earth I have actually learned a thing or two. Just recently tho' I've learned, I have a very low tolerance for people, who for whatever reason, don't want to learn. Sorry. -oldmac
In regards to passing 'hermie' traits thru feminization, I personally have experience, and do so quite sucessfully.
If you have not tried this technique, you really shouldn't try to pass bad info along to those of us that sucessfully use this technique. Good luck convincing me I can't do something that I consistently do.
I've used aspirin, I've used GA, (gibrellic acid) and I've used light poisoning. There's other methods, but these are what I have personally done.
The seeds I have now are from stock last purchased/recieved over 5 years ago.
The strains I have are:
Swazi Skunk
Potent Purple
C-99/Sweet Tooth
Bubblegum
Reefermans un-named R&D strain (I call it Pokerface)
Inca Spirit
and last year a friend gifted me some Diesel
Through multiple generations I have grown seeds using the normal male-female methods, and I've femmed all of my strains at least a couple of times.
Never...Let me repeat NEVER have I ended-up with a crop of hermie seeds. (knocks on wood, lol)
Most plants in nature have a survival technique or two imprinted in their genes. Going hermie is one of cannabis' survival techniques, and can be manually forced to express itself. This does not mean the strain is now tainted. In my experience, if the strain is strong to begin with...there will be no problems. In my later sucessions, still no problems. Trait is triggered when over-stressed.
Too many folks screwed-up attempting this with no prior growing knowlege or experience, and thusly reported a bad result. Now, this old wives tale about forced hermies being the devils spawn continues.
If you know your crop, and can sucessfully grow a plant from start to harvest...you are on the way to sucessfully pulling off the miracle of feminization.
If you have problems bringing a plant to harvest, or keep finding 'nanners', likely your technique needs improving. This does not necessarily mean the plant is a genetic hermie.
Plants have no ego, so they accept the ego-driven claims of an inexperienced grower, like they were fact.
But, from what I hear, bad strains are out there. I just don't grow any of 'em. :jointsmile:
Thats funny that you say that because one of my PKs was a hermie so im waitin to see if i find any seeds, hoping not alot but enough to be able to save that strain for later uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by SOG420
the reason you dont want to breed hermies is you pass on the hermie trait to its offspring, even with reverse its still a pain, best with the best, not the best with a foliar spray..