HELP!!! is this a hermie or what IS this?

ok this is a bubblegum 4 weeks into flower.. looks great. its been in soil, botanicare nutes, under 600wt HPS, i think ive seen these before but my last crop had 2 hermies i guess, lots of seeds, but lots of buds.. if the pic doesnt show em good enough, they are yellow, kinda talon shaped, split down the center, its the only plant with them so far, and its my oldest by a few days.


help me please, its my oldest bestest favoritist girl i got, i dont wanna be crying curled up in the tub later drinkin johnny walker.. i wanna keep her, because the bud looks GOOD, but dont want problems, i have plenty of younglings to replace her if i must, shit i can turn her into butter if i gotta.

hey, anyone? im guessing these are what are called nanners? look kinda like bananas?

we need a sticky with pics and names identifying the various cannabis parts. guess its getting chopped, cant wait and let it wreck all my shit. good way to end this day anyway. :mad:

wait i wouldn't chop it just yet, that is a male part on her for sure, and must be removed. the male part that is. now some plants will "hermie" well into bloom, thats relatively normal. but by the looks of the bud, its vastly female, is that the only nanner she has? if so then just pluck it off. its also possible that some sort of stress is causing this.

I wouldn't chop it if I were you. Yes, your female has thrown up a set of 'nanners', but you can simply pick them off if you're wanting to continue the grow with her in the room. Worst case scenario, it self-pollinates... or possibly pollinates another female. But unless it becomes a full-blown hermaphrodite, it's still very salvageable and worth keeping with the crop, IMO. The choice is ultimately yours, but know that slightly seeded hermaphroditic females smoke just as well as sinsemilla.

Are there any light leaks inside the growroom? Best way to tell is to go inside the growroom and momentarily turn out all the lights. If you can see any light getting into the room, fix them. Even the slightest amount of light can cause plants to hermie.

Hey I am going to bump this, I FEEL YOUR PAIN!

Those are not what I think are called nanners. I am a fucking retard though, so I don't know. Hopefully someone else will chime in here.

You have the exact same thing going on that I do. You are fucked, just like me.

2 soil um....4 weeks since I switched them to 12/12, I am just going to say they are 4 weeks in but that is kinda a whole nuther wierd thing. Stinky probably knows what I am referring to. Anyway.
2 DWC clones, 4 weeks in as well.
Guess what, the DWCs are fucking pregnant, and I have the exact same "talon" things that are split open.
The reason I say they aren't "nanners" is that upon very close inspection, I found "nanners" too. I think that you will find some, but from what I have read, there are probably some that you just won't see. If you have (and I am assuming that you do from your description of her) a bomb ass fat nuggylishsih beauty queen, I think that nanners may possibly evade detection.

At this point I have chalked this one up to learning and accepted defeat. I am so pissed, as I am sure you will be too.

Now hopefully someone will come on here and tell me I am an idiot and that everything is salvageable, but I am not holding my bong hit.:(

I don't know if it would be effective or to what degree it would be effective to do, but you could try using Reverse by Dutch Master, and maybe salvage something? I tried to read as much as I could about it, but couldn't find anything that anyone had posted with similar situation, 4 weeks in, with the end result. I am guessing because there is no significant end result to speak of, aside from a seeded crop/partiallyseeded? I don't know, I am really bummed out.

The lesson probably is to find out what caused the herm, i.e. genetics, stress, whatever. Hopefully I found mine. Hope you figure out yours. Good luck!

Awesome, I just read the link in my email and hadn't even seen the other replies!@!

Thank you for the hope!!!!
So THOSE SPLIT TALON things are "nanners".
I thought "nanners" were the yellow, fleshy, banana looking thing that stuck out..
This was a point of confusion for me, could someone help please! Edumacate me!

I was prepared to look for nanners this whole time, and had found and picked what I thought 2 were, all the while what is pictured and described in this thread was also happening, but I had no clue I guess.

So you can pick off the talon things that are split? And what exactly are those? I am guessing male parts? At this point I have too fucking many to pick off, and let them get out of control because I thought that "hey those don't look like nanners, " FUCK!

i went to town with the tweezers and finger plucking technique, went under her(?) skirt to look fer balls.. found 1, some more potential seed looking balls but with the reddish hairs poppin.

SO: the yellow "talons" are flowers? also called nanners?

and finding the seeds growing in dense bud is really tough (plus my eyes arent so great, gotta find my glasses, feel like thelma from scooby doo)

and if i am correct in my thinking, though stoned as i am, the flowers pollinate, and the balls underneath are seeds, and seeds can be found anywhere in hermie bud as I've seen, but the buds smokable fo' sho!

nanners are flowers, they look like bananas, they split open and blow thier load into the air of your growspace.. pollinating female plants with hermie sauce, resulting in possibly and very likely seeds in your otherwise virginal sensemillia.

Please correct me though if I'm wrong, though I hope I'm correct.

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ok here was my experience, I have no idea what you just said by the way!

The nanners, for me, looked totally different than the talon things. I only found the beginings of seeds when I went into a sadistic rage and cut off bits and pieces of him/her. I disected them and looked at them with the 30x.

The nanners that I plucked I almost overlooked because they looked like pistols at a fast glance, but from other pics I have seen here, I knew they must have been nanners.

The talon things? What are those? I don't think they are what are called "nanners", but obviously they are male parts? Help, also, how anyone use Reverse this late in the game, 4 weeks or so into flower? What were the results?

Just to clear things up, 'nanners' is just a silly slang word describing male flowers. When ripe, they look like pairs of bananas hanging from a stem, and I suppose this is where the saying originated.

If you're diligent enough, you can probably pull most of them off of the females before they have a chance to release their pollen. But you'll have to keep a close eye on them, because as you can imagine, they're easy to miss. Also, if you can single out a stressor that caused the plant to hermie (light leaks, other undue stress, etc.) and discover that it wasn't genetics that caused it, you can also save the pollen from the sacs that you find, then later use it to produce feminized seeds.

I think the "talon" things in question must be the seed pods that are fertilized? I am so confused, because I kept telling myself that there were pistol hairs coming out of them, some of them, but I looked at some and you can see the seed forming inside.
What of reverse, will it hault seed formation from here on out? I know that it won't do anything about what is already there. Should the talon things be picked off?

hey just wanna hit this threads to keep it alive, i know the yellow things are bad, no other plants got em, fuck im stoned, just hittin this thread to keep it alive.. my young lady is confused, im trying to be supportive, as a good parent should be.. but im reachin out, lookin for help, damn i sound pathetic right? im keepin her away from boys but she may begin comng on to my other girls and im a tad concerned of the implications. feminized seeds is nice, but i wanna smoke seedless, im lazy. :confused: + :stoned:

hey other dude with same problem:
i feel your pain brutha, im here waiting for answers and bet the only answer is a shit load of seeds this round and my whole steady rotation of plants is fucked cuz i gotta get it (the flowerin room)empty after the hermie and all her roomates leave, scrub a muhthafuckindub the whole room, shed a tear and try again. more seeds yay!!! (ive thrown most of my supposed feminized seeds (from my last grow) into the wilds, may see em again, but they gone.) the smooke was great though.. obviously

hey partner, I think that I got it.
The talon things, are the seed pods developing the seeds.
Nanners really do look like little bananas and are unmistakeable.

I just pulled 2 of mine, they were showing significant enough amber trichs, they weren't exactly 4 weeks in,

The 2 others though are 4 weeks in, full of seeds, just waiting on the trichs to change. Maybe another 2 weeks for them. Fuck!

Try try again!!!! Good luck homie!
I think that a light leak must have been the culprit for me, I am currently re evaluating exactly how the next grow will go, to ensure against the light leaks. Keep pluggin away! Still getting more than I would have expected out of my first grow, and learned so much, makes it all worth it, I know that I can't wait to start my next one with what I know now!

Just to clarify,
Not exactly 4 weeks in,
I mean that they were probably beyond 4 weeks, I just say they were at 4 because that's how long I had them in 12/12, I believe they actually started sooner than that all by themselves under 18/6, but that's a whole nother thread.
Peace

yeah my herm looks almost smokable, should i just hack her? man, its real early but i wanna get a safe flowerin room so i can get some other girls in there, no chance of light leaks now, i checked, hung out in there, no way there s any light getting in now, i went to town with the electric tape and duct tape. i tweezerd off most of the talons, hope i didnt just make it worse.. :(

im still confused here a little. my bananas point up, alot of them anyway and are growing straight up out of the buddage. i pulled a bunch, hope it helps, just stll unsure whats the next best steps. the seeds on the herm will be herm seeds therefore junk, but any seeds that form on the other ladies will be feminized cross breeds? like the seeds i find on a cheese plant growing next to it will be feminized bubblegum/cheese? sounds great to me.. thats what happened last grow, so the seeds i got from my j5 (only got 2) are actually a cross of j5 and a good skunk/aphie?? thatd be a'ight.

it seems the only answers i know is: hermies are bad, i dont want em in there, but the weed smokes great, after major seed hunting, your left with great shake for j's, thats about it. but the idea of creating crossed feminized seeds is cool, reason to keep her if its true. i need to get a damn book, this site has been my only source of info, besides first hand learnin.

please answer this: the seeds i find in the other ladies, feminized crosses, will be worth growing and how much more likely will they herm??

hey whats up? any helpers out there? im hittin this to keep it alive.. am i beating a dead horse? if so im a dumbass cuz im still confused..:(

ok i am done i believe i know all their is to know about hermies.. here goes:

mine was pulled from the growroom, too many flowers poppin, it looks just about ready anyway at only 5 weeks. (is this a normal hermie traight maybe?) cleaned the walls and stuff. so now onto this knowledge im about to share:

(correct me if im wrong please, it seems there is alot of confusion about hermies, so here i hope to clarify, if im wrong, i hope i get corrected)

hermies develop because of genetics or stress (ie: light leaks, bad music, lack of males around??)

the hermie develops male sexy parts (flowers, maybe the same as "nanners"?, look like bananas kinda, though maybe "nanners" are seeds?) and can now pollinate a female.

The female that is pollinated stays female, she cannot make sexy time with other females, cuz she is not a hermie, just a regular girl. only hermies and boys can pollinate a female.

So if any of my females develop seeds from being nearby the hermie in question, they are feminized, but the female plant they grow on shouldnt be able to sex up the other girls because she is still just a girl, unless she gets stressed or is genetically predisposed to hermaphrozation (is that a word?) .

My hermie, the bubblegum, i had originally thought had to have been hermie-ized by the last hermie i had, but now i believe they were both stressed similarly, ie light leaks (which ive been diligently removing). so there it is, the facts about hermies, sticky it if you must. correct it if you must, just so we can all be better informed, at least me.

biggest question i have for me is this: are you sure the hermie cant be spread to the other girls, making them hermie too? or are they just pollinated females without the ability to "spread their seed"?
answer is this: some of you folks that know yer shit need to chime in now, yay for that! i am only full of shit and theory.

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mine was pulled from the growroom, too many flowers poppin, it looks just about ready anyway at only 5 weeks. (is this a normal hermie traight maybe?)

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Was it an autoflowering strain, like LR2? (Lowrider2) If not, 5 weeks seems a bit early. Hermaphrodites, as far as I know, don't speed up flowering time. But stress can delay growth, especially in flowering.

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hermies develop because of genetics or stress (ie: light leaks, bad music, lack of males around??)

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LOL, correct... for the most part. Different plant have different tastes in music. :D

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the hermie develops male sexy parts

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Correct. Though, I kinda wonder whether a REALLY stressed male will develop female sexy parts? I don't know of anyone who's taken the time to find out.

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The female that is pollinated stays female, she cannot make sexy time with other females, cuz she is not a hermie, just a regular girl. only hermies and boys can pollinate a female.

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Yep, the female will start making seeds on every area that receives pollen. She's had enough sexy time, and will need her energy to make the new seeds. But if she is allowed to be pollinated too late, the seeds in those areas will probably not fully develop. (Those little squishy green or white seeds that are found in commercial grass sometimes are immature, and aren't usually viable.)

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So if any of my females develop seeds from being nearby the hermie in question, they are feminized, but the female plant they grow on shouldnt be able to sex up the other girls because she is still just a girl, unless she gets stressed or is genetically predisposed to hermaphrozation (is that a word?) .

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Right, a pollinated female will produce seeds, not more hermie parts. But whatever hermaphrodite pollinated her WILL be able to pollinate other females if hermaphroditic pollen (I think that's the right word ;)) is allowed to blow around the room.

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are you sure the hermie cant be spread to the other girls, making them hermie too? or are they just pollinated females without the ability to "spread their seed"?

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Plants can't 'catch' a case of hermaphrodites like the flu. It's either genetic, or caused by stress, like you mentioned earlier. If the stressors that caused the first plant to hermie are still around (light leaks, bad music, etc.), then it CAN spread... just not like a disease.

If the strain you're growing hermies easily, and is allowed to pollinate another female for seeds, you'll probably end up with seeds that also grow unstable (but predominantly female) plants. Better way to produce feminized seeds is to deliberately stress one plant from a very stable strain, then collect the pollen when it starts sprouting 'nanners' and pollinate another stable female with. I'll be trying this in the future, and have heard people getting great results from it. Use the search feature up top, go to 'advanced search', in the top left enter the keyword "hermaphrodite", and if you want, narrow the search by just looking in the titles of threads for the keyword.

Good luck, and thanks for the humorous post! :jointsmile:

right now i love mr.clandestine, thank you, i have felt very alone in my hermie situation, struggled to come to grips, confusion sets in, do i blame myself? was she born that way? will she confuse her sisters? phew, its stressful on a parent, glad i got some meds fer that;) well she's in the dark now, hopefully in a few days, when the time comes, itll be painless, hurt me more than itll hurt her and all that. it has been very hard finding hermie info, other than bad stereotypes and musical references such as some that i have used, so i relied on deep intuitive thinking and some heavy tokin sessions, i feel as expert as i figure i need to be now. look for the book at amazon.com muhfuckas!! :stoned:

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right now i love mr.clandestine, thank you, i have felt very alone in my hermie situation, struggled to come to grips, confusion sets in, do i blame myself? was she born that way? will she confuse her sisters? phew, its stressful on a parent, glad i got some meds fer that;) well she's in the dark now, hopefully in a few days, when the time comes, itll be painless, hurt me more than itll hurt her and all that. it has been very hard finding hermie info, other than bad stereotypes and musical references such as some that i have used, so i relied on deep intuitive thinking and some heavy tokin sessions, i feel as expert as i figure i need to be now. look for the book at amazon.com muhfuckas!! :stoned:

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LOL, I'm glad I could help! Those intuition building smoking sessions are the best, aren't they? I like your writing style, so definitely write that book, and fire ANY editor that doesn't approve of your preferred 'inspirational' pre-writing activities. This world needs more best selling authors that like to write while stoned! That'd make for much more interesting reading, in my opinion. :jointsmile:

Take care.

and now as she sits, in the dark, slightly chilly room all alone, i wonder.. what of her prodogy? can i grow one of deez bitches right? got a couple clones kinda veggin' takin in the scene. this whole "light leak" shit, come now, is there no light in the natural light of moonlight, starlight, lightbrite? the need for absolute dark.. period.. no light, then bam! some serious sun for the other 12, seems unnatural, i've never experienced this phenomenon in the great outdoors, over-rated as it may be, i can see at nght, outside, pretty much anywhere, but my grow room? dark side of the moon since the beginning, except maybe a lil red bulb here, a ray of sun shine there, in the a.m., those f-ing lights on the surge protectors, seems dark to me, but oh well, i will do my part in preventing light leaks. if you like reggae, 10 ft. ganja plant is seriously good shit folks. i ramble. i am done with the "hermie incident", thanks for listenin folks. :jointsmile:

This is what I have right now. I have some Jack Herer about 2 weeks away from being done. I just noticed these yellow/green things coming off some of the buds. Are these nanners? Hermi? Should I let it go the rest of the time? I dont see any pollin. Its probably too late to pollinate for seeds right? I'd rather just let it go since its almost done. Its my biggest plant so cutting it down now would be painful. I took clones of the mother and this is one of the clones going in hydro. I also have the mother flowering out too but I can't find any green weeners on her. Before I flowered the mom I took a clone so I could keep the genetics for later. If it is a hermi should I just dump the clone that I have in veg? Here are some pics. Sorry my camera sucks but you can kinda see the nanner above the middle finger in this picture (my ring finger). The second pic is of the nanners I plucked and laying on a piece of paper.

Spyguy,yes those are 'nanners'.
A normal male plant will grow tight oval shaped bunches of flowers(until they open,then they go star shaped).On a hermed female,she will grow random single male flowers which are talon shaped and yellow in her colas(the green ones COULD be small leaves).Keep pickin them out.N.B I read somewhere that planting next gen hermed seeds will carry the 'hermed' trait,so Ive never bothered to find out.Just just keep pluckin.Also like mentioned above check for light leaks or some other stress factor.Peace,RM.

If your strain was stable before you started your grow (good genetics) , chances are the nanners are from a source of stress.

That SAME stress , if repeated in following grows on any seeds you get from hermis, will produce nanns again.

But eliminate the stress, and you will probably NOT see nanners on further grows from these seeds.

At least thats how I understand it.