Hi im Brandon u can call me Brandon... this is what i smoke on the daily..
in the 3rd pic.. from left to right... orange krush.. potter valley kush.. mendo purps.
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Hi im Brandon u can call me Brandon... this is what i smoke on the daily..
in the 3rd pic.. from left to right... orange krush.. potter valley kush.. mendo purps.
And here is some pics of my cab..
specs - 1 100 watt cfl with 2000 lumens for flowering
1 pc fan for ventilation....
pic 1... Outter view of the drawer.. looks like a normal drawer right?
pic 2... just a pic of the timer set on 12/12 on at 6am off at 6pm that way light leaks cant be seen... this is a stealth grow.
pic 3... just a pic of the inside with the pot and the light... i got it on books to get it closer to the light.. i can also adjust light height...its on an extension cord through a hook.
pic 4.... pic of the light traps over the fan and ventilation holes...
pic 5.... pic with dummy drawer removed to show the secred operation...
i got maybe 3 or 4 seeds in there... all of them are some kind of dody... but one of them i got from what i believed to be some hot pink sativa. so im payin close attention to that seed.
Start with 18/6 or straight 24 hour light schedule. You may risk detection of your housemates/parents but youre seedling will need the hours. No less than 6 hours of dark before flowering.
Consider getting a couple more cfls in there and start looking into topping and LSTing for space efficiency. Im assuming you are using an 100watt equivalence cfl. Watts mean nothing, its the lumens per square foot ratio thats important. Take a look in the indoor lighting forum section. There should be a sticky worth take a gaze at.
Read the forums and you will be able to avoid problems early on.
Welcome Brandon,
- Jack
that bulb i got is 2000 lumens is that good for 1 plant?
i came home from work and checked out my plant....
no sprout yet.. but i moved some soil around and the seed has germinated... so hopefully there will be a sprout by tonight..,..
btw i think im gonna stick with 12/12 cycle from seed and buy like 1 more cfl.
Does that pot have drainage? Can you cover it with duct tape so it is not clear any more?
I'd recommend sticking to 24/0 or at least 18/6 light until it shows sexual maturity.
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...uch-light.html
This thread should answer your questions about lighting. It would be wise to take stinkyattic's as well as my advice about switching to 24 hour or 18/6. 12/12 is for flowering.
no the pot doesnt have drainage.... the top is completely air sealed with one of those bags u get from the grocery store that u put fruit in... but when it sprouts im gonna put it in a better potting set up.
as far as lights im gonna stick with my warm 100 watt cfl and my cool 100 watt cfl on 12/12 cycle... im gonna go buy a light splitter so i can put both bulbs in.
i just checked the soil and it looks like its about to sprout but i think the seed was in the soil weird cause ut looks like the st. louis arch commin out the soil.... i dont know if i should help it out cause one of the sides has a couple leaves on it...
Yeah, drainage is important.
Patience with the seedling is key. You want to avoid disturbing it as much as possible. Touching the germinating seed will only hurt it.
seed sprouted...
hope its a girll....
will take pics later...
rite now this kush got me tho.
Here are some pics of the seed.. and inside and outside of the box...
okay i still got my sprout and it has 2 leavs plus 2 itty bitty leavs in the center...
but the 2 big leavs that it gets when it first sprouts they are starting to droop down on the ends....
but the seedling is still healthy green tho.. and it doesnt seem dehydrated or anything.
ye dont worry, those leaves will eventually fall off neways.:thumbsup: all ze best
k thanks for the advice cause i thot it was dying...
also i might have another sprout....
i noticed the seeds germinate when u take some tweezers and crack them in the most oval way possible and then stik it in the soil with the pointy side down.. actually i dont think it really matter which way u put it in..
Looks pretty stealth Brandon, nice :thumbsup:
Two things:
1) Are you checking the temperatures inside the cabinet? With 2 CFLs, no fan, and only one hole, I imagine it might be too hot for the plants and causing stress. Ventilation is definitely necessary for the plants. They take in CO2 and convert it to oxygen. If there isn't enough ventilation, it can stunt your plant growth. I guess by opening the cabinet door each day during the 12-on hours, this can help. But I'd still be concerned about temps.
2) Since you're starting from 12/12, is the cabinet lightproof? The hole in the back there seems like it might be a problem.
Good luck!
well the temp in the house never drops below about 69 degrees so i say its about 70 degrees in there all day...
and in the pics u dont see the 2 holes i have in the bak... one has a pc fan on it on the upper right corner...
then i got one in the bottom left corner for ventilation and so i can put the wires through....
and the cabinet is about 98% light proof... still a few leaks.. and the holes on the bak have light traps so not too much light escapes from the bak....
chek out the frist set of pictures i posted of my set up at the top of this page... pic 4 and 5 show light traps and 5 shows the ventilation in the bak with the pc fan in one of the holes.
and im thinking about buying a mini fan to blow on the stems but i stealth is the key and that may be to loud.... it seems to be growing fine 4 now.. i shuld take sum pics.
This will get less than a cone full per plant, 18/6 is the minimum time of light for vegging plants and your wattage is woefully inadequate, you also need good ventilation.Quote:
as far as lights im gonna stick with my warm 100 watt cfl and my cool 100 watt cfl on 12/12 cycle... im gonna go buy a light splitter so i can put both bulbs in.
:cool:
here some more pics this is like day 3 since it sprouted on 12/12 cycle...
i didnt take anymore pics of the cfls but now i have 2 cfls in there.. 1 warm 100 watter from the red package, and 1 daylight 100 watt from the blue package.
here are some pics of baby bella... (name my cuzzo gave it)...
i think the strain is from a bag of hot pink sativa but ill have to wait and see but i know its from some dank otherwise i wouldnt have save the seed.
as far as the last guy talkin bout im gonna only get a cone worth... lmao.. i think ill get about 2 ounces i got one other seed to germinate so hopefully both are girls and i get an ounce from each.
I agree with Tom: you're probably not going to get as much bud as you think you are. This is because you aren't going to give your plants enough time to grow before it'll be time to harvest. If you get two ounces from two plants starting at 12/12, that'll be a miracle.
Not trying to crap on your grow, it looks like a great setup! I would reconsider the 12/12 right now. If you're in a hurry, let them grow on 24/0 or 18/6 for 3 weeks, then put on 12/12. You'll get a MUCH bigger yield.
Good luck!
u guys i dont really care about yield...
i just dont wanna get caught... and if the light was on 24 hours 'id get caught cause my setup has light leaks... so yea... and ill say it again.. outdoor plants would get 12/12 so whuts the big deal..
You will find out for yourself in a few weeks.Quote:
so whuts the big deal..
:cool:
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Originally Posted by Kbrandon
Completely understandable. That's smart thinking. Getting caught is the pits. I just don't want you to be really disappointed when it comes time to harvest and you don't have nearly as much as you're expecting.
However...as long as you don't get caught, you can always do more grows :rasta:
okay how bout this...
i keep 12/12 and up my lights by buying 2 more cfls...
right now i have 3600 lumens in there if i get 2 more ill have 7200 lumens... that should be good right?
but im not gonna put the other lights in for another couple weeks maybe when it gets more leavs.,
watchu guys think?
I just looked inside and baby bella was lookin sexy so i took a pic...
her first leavs are starting to fill out... and the stem seems like its getting stiffer and stronger too...
Since stealth is a priority for you (and you're saying your only option is to do 12/12) I'd say go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kbrandon
The worst that can happen is it doesn't yield hardly anything :) You can always try again; you'll only have lost a few weeks time
Sending good luck to you!
Just my opinion, but if you have light leaks out that worry you about being caught,....then those same light leaks will cause light from your room to enter during the dark period, causing weird growth, and stressing the heck out of your plants..(which the 12/12 from seed will also do before it is mature..) Your best bet, seriously, is to do your best to fix the light leaks with gorilla tape, weather stripping, anything, and switch to 18/6. Otherwise the risk might be not worth it. You may yeild nothing but hermies, and then very little, weak, seedy bud. If you like the good stuff then why go thru all this trouble just to mess up the most important part of indoor growing...the light schedule? To each his own but many many people have stealth grows that remain un-detected done right. Also, if you are that paranoid about detection, then how are you going to control odor? I have had vegging plants smell like crazy, so what are you going to do when the pungent odor of a flowering plant wafts out of your exhaust and those light leaks? Strategic placement of clutter can help those light leaks also. Why not have the lights come on at 12 so they're on when you are asleep, and nobody is bothering you?
What am i ... a talking parot?
i feel like i keep repeating myself..
im not switching to 18/6... so yea...
everybody just kick back roll a blunt or a joint then check out my grow... and if i ask for an opinion then offer it...
if u think i could do somethin better im open to suggestions but dont keep harping on the subject if i say no.
Brandon, you've got people trying to help you. You WERE asking for opinions, now you don't want them?
I hear you: you're going to stick with 12/12. I'd say go for it, and good luck! :thumbsup: I'm gonna keep my eye on the thread and hope to see some good progress!
Si, continue with the 12/12. I'd like to see how long it lasts you.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you kid.
-Jack
Should i piss in a bottle and mix it with water and use it as nutrients cause thats what my cuzin does on his plants because he said it has nutrients in it.
BTW he grew in a pc case using just a couple cfl's and he even fucked up the light schedule sometimes he would have them on 12 12 and sumtimes on 24 hours... and it was the dankest bud i ever smoked....
here are sum pics of his grow...(NOT OF MY GROW!)
he grew that plant in his dorm... and he got about a half ounce at harvest....
so i know what a couple cfl's are capapable of...
Didn't i just give you a few things better? What about smell? Again I say that you could shore up your light leaks and properly light the plants. I'd say you are either growing in your parent's home...(NOT COOL..by the way!) or in a dorm room if you are that scared to get caught, and if a few light leaks from your nightstand would give you away that easily. If those light leaks will give you away, then the smell of the flowering plants won't right? Don't think some air freshener will help that...and they'll smell ALL DAY!! For a stealth grow to work properly, it needs to be completely sealed, with odor protection. You seem to have neither. You may end up getting caught unless you seal up that cab, which, in turn, will ALLOW you to PROPERLY light that plant! Also, I bet with 12-12 from seed that stress makes that a male. Again, I am trying to help you, not rag on your setup. You either posted this setup to...A.get help, which I am doing. OR, B. to gloat about what you deem a slick setup, which I hope not because I could easily take that nice cab and make it work properly for very little $$. Why do something this risky, half-ass it, and risk very little or no reward? It's just plain common sense. 10$ worth of weatherstripping and tape and maybe a pc fan with a fish tank fliter filled with active carbon taped over it ..another 10-20$ and you now have a WAY better setup...or you can continue to be stubborn and not take our advice, your choice dude! All I'm saying is that everything I know I got from books written by people who know more than me, and from advice on here, also from people who know more than me. I took all that advice, because......they had a better way. I didn't necessarily wanted to destroy things I set up to change them, but I'm glad I did because now my setup works better!! Good luck whichever way you go man:rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kbrandon
this will be interesting
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Originally Posted by AllforMe
1. after typing alllllll that do u feel better?
2. I did make this thread more to share pics and document my grow than to get advice.........suggestions are welcomed but dont w8st ur time forcing an opinion on me.
3 Not worried about the smell.. my room smells like weed all the time.
4. Even if i buy some weather strip it'll help the light leaks but it wouldnt cover them 100%... and i need 15000% lightproof if im gonna run 24/0 or 18/6...
5. Why would u jinx my plant like that???
6. wat im gonna do is add 2 more warm cfl's to boost the lumens up to like 9000 to 10000k and continue the 12/12 cycle...but i got to see how my stocks do this week first...
check out http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-journals/109446-cutlass-s-new-speaker-box-cfl-grow.html]this.
he only used 2 cfl's too and got 15 grams....
15 grams would last me a month.
You dont have a thermometer in there? I betcha its way hotter in there than you think it is...
For the love of god, please switch to 18/6 and fix your light leaks.
by the way, that thread that you just referenced.. the guy got as much bud as he did because he vegged for 24/0.
Yet another reason why you should switch your cycle.
You are wasting your time growing if you are just going to ignore the basic needs of the plant, but it is your time to waste as you please.:smokin:Quote:
6. wat im gonna do is add 2 more warm cfl's to boost the lumens up to like 9000 to 10000k and continue the 12/12 cycle...but i got to see how my stocks do this week first...
If you were starting from rooted clones instead of seeds it would be a very different story.
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