DNC on hot seat over Florida and Michigan

A Democratic National Committee spokeswoman brushed off questions today about what to do about Florida and Michigan, states which Hillary Clinton won, but which held contests that weren't fully contested and didn't award any delegates.

Spokeswoman Karen Finney said on MSNBC that the state parties could hold "do-over" votes or submit proposals to the credentials committee for the national convention to get the delegates seated. "Both options are still on the table," she said.

The Florida and Michigan Democratic parties were penalized for holding their primaries before when the DNC allowed. The candidates didn't campaign in the states, and in Michigan, Clinton, but not Barack Obama, was on the ballot.

Clinton has been increasingly lobbying to have her wins rewarded, arguing that Democrats can't afford to disenfranchise two states crucial to the party's hopes in November.

Finney also said that another 10 states are still to vote, suggesting that the nomination could be decided without having to settle the Florida and Michigan question. "We certainly want to let voters have their say," she said.
DNC on hot seat over Florida and Michigan - 2008 Presidential Campaign Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com

Do the alienate these two states that would possibly push the vote to the GOP candidate? Do they do a "do over" that will piss off not only Obama but his loyal fans? Clinton sure would like to see it happen.......

Just when the Dems seem to have a foot up they fall on their face. LOL...like kids in a sandbox.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

This is going to be fun!:D:thumbsup::D

THIS is the best the conspiracy industry can come up with????
A heated discussion over irrelevant votes????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

The Republicans are doomed.:D

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Originally Posted by psteve

THIS is the best the conspiracy industry can come up with????
A heated discussion over irrelevant votes????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

The Republicans are doomed.:D

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From what I can tell, the only people loosing sleep over this are the Democrats?:wtf:
Dems are the ones that first raised this issue, they are the ones talking about it primarily, so who is the "conspiracy industry"?
Is it ok to not count votes? As far as democrats are concerned in this election? That's kind of funny, see it's already starting!:S2::S2::asskick:

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From what I can tell, the only people loosing sleep over this are the Democrats?:wtf:

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HA!
I sleep just fine! :D:D:D

This kind of obviously desperate finger pointing over a long settled side issue can only help Obama.
Thank you for your support!

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This kind of obviously desperate finger pointing over a long settled side issue can only help Obama.
Thank you for your support!

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LOL...so to hell with the millions of Dem voters and Hillary supporters; a party united!:thumbsup:

Hey, it's the Dem party whining.....nothing to do with the GOP except for being a spectator sport.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

it's the desperate attempt to make a conspiracy out of this that I find so humorous.
"Millions of Hillary supporters"... Priceless! :jointsmile:
And the idea that this somehow puts the DNC on the "Hot Seat".
For what??? The issue was settled before the voting began!!!!
How does Hillary's whining put anyone on a hot seat?

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it's the desperate attempt to make a conspiracy out of this that I find so humorous.
"Millions of Hillary supporters"... Priceless! :jointsmile:
And the idea that this somehow puts the DNC on the "Hot Seat".
For what??? The issue was settled before the voting began!!!!
How does Hillary's whining put anyone on a hot seat?

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Sorry, just a million votes between the two states.
Election Center 2008 - Election & Politics News from CNN.com

Well, if somebody or organization said my vote didn't count at all I'd be a bit pissed. Especially if my candidate wasn't elected because of it.:D

Like I stated, this isn't a GOP problem or "conspiracy"....it's ALL within' the dark corridors of the DNC. :thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Like I stated, this isn't a GOP problem or "conspiracy"....it's ALL within' the dark corridors of the DNC.

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OOOOOOH! Scarry!!!
The dark corridors of HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I can't even type it without busting a gut!!!
Did you know that it was the DNC who decided not to allow those states to participate???
That they agreed BEFORE the election to change the dates of their primaries, with FULL KNOWLEDGE that their votes would not attach to any actual delegates?
How 'dark' is that corridor?:D:D:D
Hillary whines.
Conspiracy theorists drool.

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OOOOOOH! Scarry!!!
The dark corridors of HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I can't even type it without busting a gut!!!
Did you know that it was the DNC who decided not to allow those states to participate???

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Yes I do.:D

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That they agreed BEFORE the election to change the dates of their primaries, with FULL KNOWLEDGE that their votes would not attach to any actual delegates?

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They sure did!:D

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How 'dark' is that corridor?:D:D:D
Hillary whines.
Conspiracy theorists drool.

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And the DNC considers a flip-flop.:D

"Spokeswoman Karen Finney said on MSNBC that the state parties could hold "do-over" votes or submit proposals to the credentials committee for the national convention to get the delegates seated. "Both options are still on the table," she said."

Seems that the DNC isn't quite as set as you on the outcome. I'm sure Obama and his loyal fans will understand completely.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

"Clinton seemed to dismiss the idea that Florida and Michigan -- two states whose primaries she won but weren't contested and didn't award delegates -- should hold caucuses so that their delegates could be seated at the Denver convention."
Hillary: FL and MI should be heard - First Read - msnbc.com

She won Michigan, but was the only major dem. candidate on the ballot. She doesn't want a "do-over", but thinks she deserves to have all of the delegates just handed over to her. Typical.

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And the DNC considers a flip-flop.:D

"Spokeswoman Karen Finney said on MSNBC that the state parties could hold "do-over" votes or submit proposals to the credentials committee for the national convention to get the delegates seated. "Both options are still on the table," she said."

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Those options are ALWAYS on the table.
If the state party wants to spend millions of dollars to hold a caucus within the designated time period, instead of spending it supporting the national party in the upcoming election, they do have that choice (And they all knew that before the primary too).
But again, only Obama would benefit from such a move, and even if it happens, there's no 'flip flop' on the part of DNC, since it would be the STATE party that would need to change their minds and act within the existing DNC rules that they previously chose not to follow.

I can see the headlines now...
MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS DECIDE TO FOLLOW STANDARD PROCEDURE!

What a scandal!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Did you know that it was the DNC who decided not to allow those states to participate???
That they agreed BEFORE the election to change the dates of their primaries, with FULL KNOWLEDGE that their votes would not attach to any actual delegates?

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Those options are ALWAYS on the table.
If the state party wants to spend millions of dollars to hold a caucus within the designated time period, instead of spending it supporting the national party in the upcoming election, they do have that choice (And they all knew that before the primary too).
But again, only Obama would benefit from such a move

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Kind of a contridiction in statements but that's cool.....see it all the time in the Dem debates.:D

IF Obama would gain so much, why is he so against it? LMAO...since the option IS on the table as you state.:D You would think that with this benefit he'd want to do it to lock down the nomination. Just don't add up to me for some reason.:D

Face it, this is another piss fest to rip up the party. So the REAL question is who's ass is easier to kiss from the DNC lips; Obamas? or Clintons?

Have a good one!:s4:

On Wednesday, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican, and Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat, called on the Democratic National Committee to seat their states' delegations. They accused the party in a statement of silencing "the voices of 5,163,271 Americans" who voted in their primaries.

"It is intolerable that the national political parties have denied the citizens of Michigan and Florida their votes and voices at their respective national conventions," they wrote.
Florida, Michigan seek exit from Democratic penalty box - CNN.com

I also find this intolerable!:D

Have a good one!:s4: