Dejayou 30.....Question/Opinion please.

Deja....does this look familiar to you? I believe I am having the same root issue that you had so would love your opinion on whether the plants in my photo (not the root pic...just the plant pics) got to looking in your last few grows? At this point I believe the bottom roots are sitting in about 1 inch of solution that doesn't get drawn out.....the exact same thing you were dealing with. Do the symptoms appear similar to yours?

For anyone else who is interested.....Power plant, 5 weeks veg, in 5 fifth week of flower. Using Botanicare, PPM 1000 (700 conversion) (was 1200 but I dropped the number back thinking overnute.....no change...in fact the plant is getting worse faster than ever.) Ph 5.6-6.2 ALWAYS, water temps 70, room temps 68-75, RH 40. 2 feet away from 1 2kw hps in cool tube.

I would LOVE peoples thoughts here. Thanks. :) (Ps...I'm thinking rootbound, root suffocation.....thoughts?)

PS...Also significantly lowered my Cal Mag level to reduce amount of nitrogen to plant.....again....no change. The plant seems to be getting worse steadily no matter what I do fyi. :(

Not to make light of your situation, but at least it doesn't look like this.

I would have to bet its the same exact problem.. Thought it was too much nitrogen, cut back on the N- no luck.

Illusion your plant DOES look rootbound....what size pot is it in? Hmmm

5 gallon recirculating DWC.

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Yeah.

Plenty of dissolved oxygen. I dunno. you tell me :P

Photo of roots? Have you thorough flushed your system with a good flushing agent recently? If you haven't in awhile....that may really help. Seems to me you should have enough room with a five gal bucket there.....

Also might try dropping your number back (maybe a third) but try the flush first if you haven't.

problem solved. This is a 50lb horse feed container that we've modified and which will hopefully fix the problem. We added a six inch airstone in the bottom and put in about 7-8 gals of half-strength nutes. Apparently this power plant should be turned earlier.....we let it veg for five weeks. :(

I got rid of my waterfarm system because the buckets were to small IMO. I went to net baskets with 5 gal buckets. I have pretty fat roots and they are in a big ball. I think they are much larger than the ones I had in the 3gal WF system. In my pic below you can how my roots were 2 weeks ago (they were at day24 flower)

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I'm glad you finally broke down and got bigger tubs...I'd say you definately were bound or at least strained cause they were squished into holding that cube shape. I just got my computer working again so hopefully I'll be on more.

I've noticed if you top them it's good to have 20 hours of light to reduce root growth, might help if you plan to keep running the farm. I'm happy with tubs cause even when the roots get big ya have tons to spare.

Kudos WH I'll talk to ya soon

Hey sorry Weedhound, I just found this thread. I have noticed that problem in mine where the tops leaves start to curl down and sometimes the edge of the leaves get crispy. It's also usually accompanied by a bunch of yellowing which you don't have so I dunno.

Unfortunately my current grow is starting to take that week 4 turn downhill that the first two did. I don't know what the deal is because my bins drain all the way and my roots are massive compared to last time, but there's a lot of yellowing going on. I am also starting to see the crispiness of the newer leaves around the cola and I'm not sure what that is about. I post a thread called "Third Grow" in the grow logs. I'm currently at day 22. I am going to change the res again tomorrow because its getting slimy. I also think the fungus gnats are back. The problems just don't stop for me! :wtf:

I think that new bucket will fix your problems WH.

Thanks you guys....she does seem better today. :) It was suggested to me to put in some extra airstones which I did so she now has 3 seperate air sources coming and about 6-7 gals of water to play with. I also did a full system flush which returned only about 60ppm so not really any fert build up in the medium to speak of. I put in 6 new gallons of water today at about noon at 850ppm. Six hours later the ppm was down to 650....in six gallons of water. I have a feeling she'll make it. :D

If anyone has ideas please drop over to the grow log (link in sig) and get an update.....the plant is significantly worse today. Thanks to anyone who can offer any insight.

Okay lets see here, Illusion first because yours is sadder and easier to diagnose. Your plant looks like you have very little air flow around it, and it also looks rootbound and N overdosed... but air flow is KEY to that plant's survival. The leaves won't heal, but the problem should not get worse.

Weedhound, I just noticed you JUST transplanted... 2 days ago~
I think that day/night wilt thing may be nothing more than transplant shock, and teh original problem was that it hadn't enough root space. This is one situation in which I would actually use SuperThrive in flower. NOT at the recommended dose though; I'd go even weaker and do a drop per 2 gallons instead of a drop per gallon.
It will take more than a couple days to pull out of this. Think when people take clones, for the first couple days they are often sad and wilty- don't fuss with it too much; those roots no doubt got pretty jostled and the tiny hairs damaged removing the previous 3 gallon pail from them .
I'm going to post this in the log too just to keep all the info in the same thread.