I'm gettin' too old for this shit. (How about you?)

Technically I'm only 22 years old, but I'd say my avatar more accurately reflects how I look inside. Really, I don't feel like I'm some young guy in the prime of his youth. I don't have any interest in dance clubs and parties, youthful pop culture, picking chicks up at bars, or generally doing things that energetic young people do.


My hair is a salt and pepper mix of white and black. My spine has degenerative arthritis and I have more aches and pains than most old guys. I'm already noticing how worn and old my face is starting to look. I already feel that I've accumulated the stresses of a lifetime. Kids have no damn respect these days, and I notice.
I don't want to go skateboarding, or have fun at a party; I just want to sit on the porch with a beer or some tea beside me, a good book to read, and some music and a smoke in-between chapters. I'm supposed to be starting my life, but I feel more than ready to retire.


Maybe it's because I've been essentially crippled for 6 years, but inside I know I'm an old geezer, I just feel it. Anybody else know what I mean? Or am I just an anomaly?

Do what you love, who cares about the expectations of pop culture.

Is getting old a bad thing? Not in my book. Whats the point of worrying about something that you can't control (unless you have a time machine)?

I spent my first year of college partying hard, hooking up with random chicks, etc. Then I realized that it was retarded, it didn't satisfy my soul. I'd compare it to being a drug addict getting a fix. It feels good for a little bit, but most of the time I felt empty.
So pop culture isn't for me, okay. I feel happier living my life the way that I do, and thats what really matters.

And if you do admire pop culture, you're only 22. Get out there and have some fun, if thats what you want.

Pain takes a toll on your energy and changes the things you like to do, and it changes how you view yourself. I have a condition that gives me episodes of intense crippling pain about 3 times a year --- otherwise I'm pretty much fine. When I am OK, I do all kinds of things, walks, bike rides, parties. But the pain really brings me down. I can't do those other things I love, and it makes me feel old.

Although my case is slightly different then you all, I feel alot the same. Im only 19 and in college and I dont like to party or do all that other shit that is expected. I feel like Im more mature around than the people around me and the older ladies see it too. I like doing things that older people do. It gives me more satisfaction and meaning to my life

its like that saying, your only as old as you feel.

You sound like a cool guy, it isn't about age, it is about the person you are, and you sound cool. So chill, I like to just kick back too, I think there are alot of folks who do. :jointsmile:

Man... i feel much like you... im only 25, but surely i feel like i already had lived some 70-80 years... my granpa is 86 and i think very interesting how only me and him share some views about life, as there is a gap of some 60 years between us...
And like you my physical appearance makes me look far older... happily i dont suffer from any pain, and reading the posts of some of you makes me very grateful for this.

I think it is related to both weed and (leaving aside any false modesty) the fact we are more intelligent than most people... ive noticed that whenever i was high i would notice things about the world, the life, and anything in general, that it would have taken FAR longer to notice if i were sober... maybe several years... i feel like if during this 3 years of smoking ive lived (or at least learned) several decades of living...
Most people usually are too immersed in this worlds "illusions", like partying, picking chicks, then after it working, paying bills to have cars, houses, etc, all this ultimately meaningless things that are regarded (by usual people) as being The Life. And so most people takes several years of living to realize (some never do) the meaningless of it all, while us already realized this... and thats why we feel like old people... cause in some ways we already are old as they.

Anyway, i think its not a reason for being worried, but a reason to be glad. Im sure almost any old man would love to have their wisdom of age and their bodies of young. The old mans may have done everything usual people would, but it is not everything people can do... in fact, what usual people do is only a very small range of everything a human person can actually do... but most people simply does not know this, and wastes one entire lifetime doing the same useless things just because everybody else does it also...

In my own case, i already realized that i have no more real links to the usual human world, as it has lost all its appeal to me, and use this detachment to concentrate myself in another more useful things, like learning about my mind, alterated states of perception, meditation, energy manipulation, etc, that are the doors to all the another worlds (besides the human usual world) available to our human possibilities...

I think the most important thing is not to indulge oneself in being tired... like... oldness is not the same as tiredness. I like to think im an old man who had the opportunity to get (again) a far younger body, with another lifetime ahead... so i must enjoy it and make the best use of it... if im 25 and my mind is like 80, how old will be my mind when i actually were 80? Maybe older than 1000... have you ever thought how wise and powerful would be someone 1000 years old?

So, my friend, dont let yourself down... you can really become one like Gandalf the Grey, if you really wish so... :thumbsup:

PS. I dont know if i already recommended you any Castanedas books... as i do it for almost everybody... anyway, i think A Separate Reality would be very useful to you...

I sorta feel that way, My situation is I used to skateboard and hang with some friends who did back in highschool also. Well people change and things change so I grew away from that. After a few years, some poor choices, changes in hobbies, things just grow different ya know. Im basicly waiting till I can get my licence back so I can get out easier, move, and meet people more like me and into the same stuff.

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Originally Posted by 40oz

its like that saying, your only as old as you feel.

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I prefer
You're only as old as the woman you feel :D
My woman is ten years younger than me.;)

Ya man I am 23 and I use to be the best athelete in my class all through out elementary school and even in highschool I was the best athelete out of my friends.

Then the world hated on me for being a CHRONIC and I got depressed at what shitty people are in my city and what I have to put up with. To say the least I went crazy and sometimes hate the evil glaring eyes of the world and would rather be safe in my house smoking till my brains fried, at least I dont have to deal with the bullshit of everyhday life you know what I mean?


I guess if you are rich you probably wouldn't be so lazy like you are saying because you could jump in your pimped out ride and go do whatever your heart desires.


Hey man if you feel that way like me and dont want to do stuff all the time, grow ALOT MORE PLANTS and that would be alot of fun!!!

AND GO GET SOME EXERCISE 2-4 times a week and you will feel like 1000 000 bucks guarantied

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Originally Posted by psychocat

My woman is ten years younger than me.;)

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You lucky! If i got a woman 10 yrs younger than me, i would be jailed... :(

Dont worry, not everyone lives in this mainstream pop culture mtv world. I dont like large parties or bars either. Im more into get to gethers with friends and shit. I dont like to live in some pattern or what society thinks "norm". I like to be a little free. I focus on things I wanna do and I do them. I could give a fuck less about what hollywood or a bunch of music makeing cocain king pins on MTV got to prove. I dont live that life style.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey

Technically I'm only 22 years old, but I'd say my avatar more accurately reflects how I look inside. Really, I don't feel like I'm some young guy in the prime of his youth. I don't have any interest in dance clubs and parties, youthful pop culture, picking chicks up at bars, or generally doing things that energetic young people do.


My hair is a salt and pepper mix of white and black. My spine has degenerative arthritis and I have more aches and pains than most old guys. I'm already noticing how worn and old my face is starting to look. I already feel that I've accumulated the stresses of a lifetime. Kids have no damn respect these days, and I notice.
I don't want to go skateboarding, or have fun at a party; I just want to sit on the porch with a beer or some tea beside me, a good book to read, and some music and a smoke in-between chapters. I'm supposed to be starting my life, but I feel more than ready to retire.


Maybe it's because I've been essentially crippled for 6 years, but inside I know I'm an old geezer, I just feel it. Anybody else know what I mean? Or am I just an anomaly?

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That sounds dead on like me Bro,But I'm 31.I got Arthritis in my back and The cartiledge between your vertabraes,I got some torn ones and 2 are almost gone.Doctor says its from all the years of Working hard labor and being Big.Even in my 20's or infact ever,I never really was attracted to the club scene or cruisin for chix.I just loved to chill at home,drink or burn.I would rather Burn and watch movies at home than go to the bars.

That club/bar atmosphere is just not some peoples thing it seems, Me personaly Id rathar meet people by doing the house party or a bonfire/outting type thing.

I know how you feel since I have had arthritis since I was 14. The pain in my back really started when I stopped growing at 6'3" tall at 17.
Now I am 45 and it hurts so bad to get out of my chair sometimes that I just don't get up for hours on end.
I still work too and after I install an engine into one of the bikes I am working on, only vicodin helps me so I can move.
I took so much Ibuprofen that my stomach lining is gone and hunger causes agonizing pain in my stomach.
Shit man, I am only 45 years old and I feel like I am 85 waiting to die.
I have hepititis C and I think my liver is finally giving up on me because it hurts sometimes so bad that I get buckled over and can't move.
Yeah, I know how you feel, and it sucks. But, the good thing is you aint alone.:thumbsup:
Misery enjoys company but, fuck misery because I am only 45 and have another 20 years ahead of me to still be useful and have fun.:thumbsup:

I always say "if you die miserable you're only making the bastards who don't like you happy", why would you want to do that ? :thumbsup:

Aging is 'sold' as fun to youth because they have the benefit of physical growth, feeding the fake invincibility trip most youth are on. Coupled with the lack of free rights for youth, We are 'sold' adulthood as a endowment, not a right on its own. Youth are turned against the "Authority" they become. Then the lack of power felt as adults leads to depression or surrender to the status quo or at least inner reflection such as you are having, imo. Whichever, in our society all reactions are impotent so far.
It's a brilliant form of self-policing that is bit hook-line-and-sinker by most adolescents in their life-decision making years, the pressure "to-'be'-whatever-in-life" is enormous. As you seem to be one who isn't drawn to the magnetic center of the status quo, be thankful you have a little free will exercised.

And the Masses will always make the Fringe feel marginalized, it's part of the self-policing policies in our 'democratic society'

Democracy=Mob Rule.

I'm 40 but most think I'm 30 or so. And really, We're all toast before you know it. Life is sooo short, and the older i get, the more I cherish what I experience, without holding it up to the cultural inspectors to approve of.

The only reason I could ever go to a bar these days would be to play music, but bars are life-and-inspiration-sucking-pits-of-sorrow-and-alcohol-advertisements so I'll never miss them even if an ad on the tv says I 'should'. I like supermarket 'hookups' with the girl-next-doors much better than bar-sluts but if its 2 AM and your itching I feel ya......

Sounds like you have the same back problems as I do. I have spinal stenosis & the pain in the legs & lower back can be excruciating!!
I'm on 90 mgs of Methadone daily for pain...along with 1800 mgs of Neurontin...2 mgs of Klonopins for anxiety...& 60 mgs of Remeron for depression.
I'm on Social Security Disability with Medicare [thank God] & am 53 yrs old. I'm retired now, but I hear where you're coming from. If anything happens to my wife [she has advanced emphysema], there's no way I could deal with the 'bar scene' anymore...especially since I quit the booze 8 yrs ago. Nothing worse than being around a bunch of drunks & you're NOT!!
I'd just make my 17 yr old son take care of me in my old age!! :thumbsup: :smokin: