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There is wide speculation that Barack Obama is being compared to as the AntiChrist the bible references. Particulary in Revelations 13. Regarding what you have learned about the second coming, do you think there is any correlation between the two? What are your thoughts?
Peace
This question is for those of you who believe in the bible.
I've never read the bible...please...include specifically just what you think says Obama is the antichrist. I'de be interested to know. I'm really trying to bite my lip on this thread...I just wanna see what you're basing this claim on.
There can only be one antichrist.
i agree 100%
If you read the bible its fairly clear that the anti-christ isn't a person,its a group. And it was already there during christ's time. Some religion sects believe its the beginnings of the roman catholic church.
people who push this are dumb. What they are saying is that he is so perfect that he must be the anti-christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by GodBud
Lol. I almost made a post about this the other day.
What does it mean to be the "Anti-Christ?" Some philosophers believed both Jesus Christ and the Anti-Christ to be the same person.
LOL, those philsophers are retards
But even if Obama was the anitchrist(which i strongly doubt) I dont care cause I know where Im going:)
Why does that make you retarded? Personally, I think anyone who reads the bible for its literal sense...is an idiot.
Are you supposed to read it for its fantasy then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghengis Chron
I'm an athiest but I read the different versions of the bible just so I can have some sort of an understanding what the different religious sects are talking about. Pretty boring reading buts important to know what there argument is.
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Originally Posted by Innominate
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Originally Posted by zeitgeist
Well... the basical premisse of logic is that if something is something, it cant also be its opposite. Or it IS something, or it ISNT something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghengis Chron
Supposing that the anti-Christ be the opposite of Christ (what is strongly suggested by its very naming), then they simply cant be the same.
Have you looked at the U.S. government lately? :wtf::wtf::wtf::D:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Coelho
If Obama is the antichrist, than what is Hillary?
The Auntie-christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by THClord
Well the bible is similar to the story of Buddha, in which he himself discovers the negative and opposite side to himself, called "Mara".
I think what the bible means by anti-christ is an example of what the opposite to christ himself would do.
In any case, claiming he's the anti christ is just a way for hillary to win the votes of the ignorant racist and fanatical christians that inhabit many parts of america.
Not to generalize. ;)
I don't need some thousand year old book to tell me how to be a good person. If I needed an institution to tell me how to be a good person, I'de be a jainist.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
You seem to be reassuring yourself a lot when Godbud specifically said for those that believe in the bible...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghengis Chron
I don't usually take the bible in the literal sense either, and I do not think Obama is the anti-christ.
If Obama is the Anti-Christ, StinkyAttic is a DEA narc. Oh, and "Elvis didn't do no drugs." :cool:
We just know those statements aren't true.
(bonus points if you can quote what fairly recent television show that quote is from) :jointsmile:
This has been coming up a lot recently: Respect for other religions and cultures.
We really need to tone down the very strong language that other members of other faiths will be upset by. With over 90,000 members, it's important to be gentler in our discussions about organized, and even disorganized, religions.
This is a site where medical marijuana patients are encouraged to come and learn... no matter WHAT their faith. Please don't drive them away with harsh words.
I've removed a couple posts from this thread.
Thank you!:thumbsup::thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
We should all think of faith as a color.
We don't tolerate racism here, so why would we allow religion bashing?
Making fun of the candidates is one thing, but when we start calling whole cultures or groups stupid, or belittling each others beliefs, we cross the line.
Its cool reading all the different perspectives. Somewhere there has to be a compromise, with each having their valid points right wrong or indifferent.
Peace
People are still taking the Bible literally these days? :wtf:
Yes. Is that a problem?
Obama isn't the anti-christ but mabye the setup for the anti-christ!This is right up my alley I have family in the Middle East.Has to say we don't know what color he or she will be or "what"the anti-christ is until its too late.
For those of you who don't know the anti-christ will rise to power by peace.Pepole speculate Isreal is going to bomb Iran to disarm them like they did Saddan in 1983.This would send the world in WWIII and we would have to help,on top of the facts the storms across America will get stronger!I believe the major world currency will just fall and shatter to peaces.No oil,No grocies,Anarchy,Chaos!!He will arise by uniting the world for a global cuase!!He will have a false prophet pepole speculate will be the next roman pope or some Islam extremnest,NO ONE KNOWS.I mean someting big is coming our way,the world isn't the way it was.We are growing apart instead of growing together.God is love,grow togther that is true meaning of God :-)
I just kind of got pulled into this thread. I tried to avoid it....but will is too weakQuote:
Originally Posted by melodious fellow
The GOVERNMENT IS the anti-christ....don't you all see.....gah
Actually the television is the anti-christ.
It's funny. The world seems to have a history of humans coming together and then growing apart or coming into conflict, growing apart and then coming back together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Readytoride08
ie: The Romans... Fall of the Roman Empire
The US Civil War before/after
WWI and WWII
etc etc......
So by that statement I would have to say the world is exactly the way it's always been. heh :thumbsup:
Here is a good guide for how to live your life: Before you take any action or do anything at all, always think about it first, and in any given situation ask yourself, "What would the Anti-Christ do?"
Then do the opposite.
That's what I do, and I'm sure that is what Obama does. He's not the Anti-Christ, and neither am I.
I dont know if it was already said, but im almost sure that this rumours that Obama is the anti-Christ are being spread by his oppositioners only to take votes from him.
He is not good enough (or rather bad enough) to be the anti-Christ.
I'd agree,I think he's a puppet someone is controlling damn good.Mabye....former gov.....RAY MABUS?!I am starting to think the Anti-Christ will most likley be some crippled,one eyes,old guy.I mean think about it,the Anti-Christ will be someone you will NOT expect.He is most likley to apear somewere around the Middle East,World Uion(Such has U.N.,Eueropeon Uion..ect.)or through poor people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coelho
OR Mabye the Anti-Christ will NOT BE of this Earth.Let's think about it,he'll have a wounded head.And everyone WILL worship him,execpt the believers of God.WHAT IF......Globel uphieval lead to Anarchy and overtrowing of the Governments.Then the skys open and UFO's touch down and low and behold a alien claiming he is God,The Islamic and Jews will NOT take a mortal has there Mudii and the Messiah.
But I feel before the end of this year OR sometime NEXT many things will come out and this puzzle will be finished.The question is,what will you do when you figure out?
the roman catholic chruch destroyed any religious texts contrary to their bible, i mean no offence, but i find it hard to swallow a bible made of blood, fire, and hate.
how can it contain prophecies if it doesnt include the full story?
You sound awfully sure of yourself my friend. I didn't know that allowing gay's equal rights was so wicked. But gee, I could have sworn THAT was discrimination. And you're lucky I'm not George Bush, or you'd SO be getting liberated right now for all that "destruction of America" stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daal Curry Surprise
Daal....I know I'm gonna get in trouble for this, with at least a deletion of my post but likely a temporary or permaban, but you are waaaaaaaaaay fucked up man. Your post has honestly scared the shit out of me, not because of all the bullshit prophecies and relgious psycho-babble you were relentlessly spewing, but because you're so positive, so sure you were right. I'm not sure if you're a racist, a bigot, a super-crazy christian, a right-wing fundamentalist, striving and burning for attention, or just plain fuckin' crazy, but either way, please do yourself and the rest of the gene pool a favor and remove yourself from it as soon as possible. I don't say that for any personal satisfaction, but just for the benefit of us all.
Just one last question before this goes rapidly downhill.....is the bible completely accurate and infallable? and if so, why? I've found "why" is the worst possible question you can ask when it comes to religion.
AGREED, he is the one.
Oi.....forget it.
It's not what you said, but rather how you said it that people will find offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daal Curry Surprise
I'm a Christian, and a fairly devout one at that. So as someone who has studied scripture, I feel I can elaborate on a few points better than someone who has not. Many of the old laws that you spoke of were actually negated by Jesus, but not the Ten Commandments. Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament, which regulated sacrifices, rituals, priesthood, food and drink offerings, and so on. Don't forget the other law of Moses that stated something like "these laws shall stand till the seed should come," and by 'seed', Moses was referring to Jesus. When Jesus died on the cross, these "old laws" were most certainly negated while the Ten Commandments were strengthened.
Jesus said that He didn't come to abolish the law, but to uphold it. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law. ... I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. ... Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:17, 18.) Sin, after all, is the transgression of the law. (1 John 3:4)
So, while homosexuality is not approved of in the Bible, the law to stone them (or any other person for any other reason) is no longer valid, and is irresponsible to suggest. Nothing in the Bible serves as an entitlement for unhappiness at the hands of your fellow man, as you suggest the Bible does towards gays. Judgment is reserved for us, by God, and not shouldn't be dished out by us, lest we be judged. While I don't agree that gays should be married in the traditional sense by a preacher or person of God, I disagree that they shouldn't be allowed civil unions, or otherwise having the right to live their lives like any other human being.
So while I respect you for at least taking the time to actually read the Bible, which seems to be a lost art these days, I have to ask that you don't take things out of context for the sake of displaying your Bible knowledge. Such as telling "so-called Christians" that they are wrong if they believe that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament AND negated Moses' old laws. Or making a mockery of those "so-called Christians" for believing that we ARE saved by grace, by which our adherence to the NT laws are happily obliged. "Love is the fulfilling of the law." Romans 13:10.
The only thing you have made clear is that you have an alternate interpretation of the scriptures... you have an almost fanatical disdain for non-Israelites... and you can conveniently paint a picture of the lack of salvation for the Gentiles by asking yourself many questions, then redundantly answering them. So, if only the Israelites were meant to be saved by grace, then what hope do non-Israelites have? Salvation through works? Doesn't that lead to pride? Or are you trying to say that the entire purpose of the Old and New Testaments are only meant to pertain to Israel and her people... and all other followers of the Word will be lost, regardless of efforts they make to be saved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daal Curry Surprise
I'd really like to try and understand what in the world you're trying to say with these quaint interpretations, but either it needs to be done in your own thread (so as not to further derail this one), or you can check your User CP and discuss some things with me via email. Either way, I don't think it's the "so-called" Christians with a distorted worldview, but rather those that think they have all the answers, when the Bible states that only God has all the answers, and we have His Word.
Daal Curry Suprise..........I just feel bad for you, I'll leave it at that..