first grow...any help is appreciated

ok so this is my first grow...5 of them sprouted around jan 14th and the other 7 sprouted around jan 25th. im using 2 175 watt metal halides and 2 40 watt tube flouros. i built a box that is 6' long 4' wide and 6' tall.. up until last night i had the light on 24 hours straight and now ive got them on a 20/4 light cycle. i had some problems last week with nute burns so i had to clip off some leaves but i flushed them twice and they seem to be doing better...some of the tips are still turning yellow but its not that bad...i also had a weird problem last night with mushrooms growing out of the pots so i scooped all the soil out from around them and refilled with new soil.. any criticism or help would be appreciated...ill be updating often with new pics http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...SGARDEN002.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...SGARDEN001.jpg
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oh by the way i dont smoke weed or grow weed and any pictures here are all pictures i found on the internet so anything i say is complete bullshit :jointsmile:

the only suggestion i can offer, should have stayed with 24/0. though some people go 18/6, you'll have faster growth with a 24/0 schedule for now. the only reason people decrease the light cycle is for faster 'root' growth. so if you are going to give them a light break, take it to 18/6, it has been proven that the best cycle if giving a rest period is in fact 18/6.

other than that their looking beautiful, keep up the good work:thumbsup:

Just keep your light cycle steady from now on.
I like the looks of the side growth on 'heads #1'. Did you already pinch the growing tip or was that natural? Good work so far.

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Just keep your light cycle steady from now on.
I like the looks of the side growth on 'heads #1'. Did you already pinch the growing tip or was that natural? Good work so far.

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I agree. Stop changing the light cycle. As long as they get the same thing every day, and not more than 6 hours of dark.

Wow, "Heads #1" is beautiful!

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i also had a weird problem last night with mushrooms growing out of the pots so i scooped all the soil out from around them and refilled with new soil.. any criticism or help would be appreciated...

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Those little mushrooms were a GOOD sign. They meant you had good healthy soil. Which you removed.
When I get a mushroom, I pick it, and break it up into all the other pots.:thumbsup:
Don't worry unless you get big slimey mushrooms that grow out the bottom of your pots.

to stinky attic its all natural...i havent pinched the tops on any of them...and the thing with the light cycle i had a friend that told me i should cut the light back alil so i can give the leaves a break from the light or some shit...hes in college for horticulture so i figured he would know what he is talking about..ill be updating alot so keep an eye on me make sure i dont get out of line.....thanks

well here are some pics of the actual box itself...

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http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...sideofroom.jpg

and here are my girls in all their glory
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...eads1feb18.jpg
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so there they are...a few of them arent looking to good and got burnt tips on alot of the leaves and i dont know why....also i got a problem with alot of the stems turning red and purple...i dont know if this is a major problem but it dont seem to have any effect on the plants..since i transplanted a few went downhill but i think there all pulling through...i dont know how much longer i should keep them on a 24 hour lights on cycle but when i cut them back to 12/12 i have a 1000 watt high pressure sodium im going to be putting in..can anybody give me some advice?also on heads 1 it seemed to have stopped growing taller but the side growth is almost doubling every day, i havent pinched any tops and im not sue if i want too or cut clones or lst them...what do ou think i should do with my circumstances? someone please help...im real unsure of what i should do with them.....thanks in advance

Could be the soil mix, check the runoff pH next time you water.
REMOVE THE DRIP TRAYS FROM THOSE POTS!!!!! They make the bottom layer of soil stay soggy and create perfect conditions for root rot, pests, and lockouts.
Drop that halide a foot or so.
Otherwise, you're looking good.

What stinky said.
And if you can't lower your light due to box design, then jack your plants up on a milk crate or something.
Also, why is your fan pointed away from the plants?

I actually prefer to point fans away from the plants- the air moves in the space fine either way, and you avoid desiccating the plant closest to the fan.
I didn't notice the light is fixed up[ there.
Box retrofit idea: Add eye-bolts and chains to hang lights. Convert the hole into an exhaust duct with a big bad blower. That's an ideal spot for the intake of the exhaust, right over the light, at the highest point in the grow cab.
CRAFTY!!! Nice box.

I use an oscillating fan directly on the lower part of the plants. I find I get stronger stalks if the fan actually moves the plants. It also stimulates capillary action, helping the plant to uptake nutrients better.
Never had a problem with dessication. Just some edge wear on a few leaves.

:jointsmile:

i check the ph everytime i water..ph is betweek 6.7 and 7.0 on all of them...im using miracle grow potting soil....the temp in the box is at a steady 76. so when should i cut the light to 12/12 and put in the high pressure sodium? and the fan is facing away cus it seems to even out the amount of wind in the box instead of the plants getting slammed with high winds and when i tried it facing them they almost got ripped out of the soil..it didnt look like a good idea..atleast facing away i get the leaves shaking and i nice cool breeze...and what should i do about lst or pinching the tops or cutting clones? am i ready for any of that and will it increase my yeild?

IT depends on what you have space/time for.
If you have time and a spot to keep a prop dome under constant light and nice and cozy, by all means pinch the tops, wait another 1-2 weeks for that side growth to get stronger, cut clones, LABEL THEM, wait another 2 weeks for the plants to get over the shock, and flower away.
Don't cheat yourself by taking small wimpy clones. They should have a growing tip, 2 fan leaves cut down to 1" blades, and a stripped node further down the stem. That's pretty much a minimum for healthy clones.
Your plants do not appear sexually mature yet, so flowering now isn't going to get you too far- it will take longer for sex to show, and you can be adding undue stress.
Doing the clones in a week or 2, you are givine the plants time to mature, and giving yourself the option of skipping the whole seedling-rearing/sexing step on your next grow.

First get your plants a little closer to the light, or you'll have stretching problems.
Then wait until you have 5 or 6 nodes before you start to LST. I never top anymore, I just train the plants to go where I want them.
You might want to consider a scrog to even out your canopy and maximize your use of the space.

what do you mean a prop dome? as in take them out of the box and put them somewhere else? and by pinching do i literally jst pinch the top with my fingers? how? and which would be better lst, pinch,both maybe? sorry i realy dont have any idea what to do...ive read so much online about growing but now im just getting alil confused so i really just need someone to walk me through this first grow day by day so i get it right the first time...i have a 6 foot by 4 foot base and its 6 feet tall...whats the best thing to do to get the most buds in the room i got...i have a daughter coming tomorrow(c-section) so i want to keep everything in the basement and out of view of her so all im working with is my box and nothing else

Well you have the best help in the world with Stinky. :thumbsup:

Your plants look great. I won't go into my horrors with soil growing which is why I stick with hydro.

Good luck with your grow. ;)

ok so i pinched the tops about 4 days..i left about 10% of the growing tip...they called it FIMS in high times when you dont cut the whole tip and said insead of splitting into two growing tips it will turn into 4 but i am still waiting for results..but side growth is growing much faster nd keeps doubling almost every day...unfortunately my digital camera died and i havent had a chance to get to the store to get new batteries but i do have some pics from feb 26th that im going to post...i wish i had pics from today because they are looking soooo much bigger and i also cut back the light and started flowering on march 1st because there all showing slight preflowers..1 def female and the rest i really cant tell..i need a 420scope...(next investment) and i got even better news...my friend gave me about 15 clones from a jack herer, grapefruit, and sour diesel that i put under T5s..there all rooted and i just transplanted them into 4" square pots which i think i will start a new grow log on...so look for it...well heres some pics from last week before i FIMSed the tips and LSTed one becasue it was stretching ay too much and got too close to the light...i will try to post up to date photos tomorrow if you want to keep an eye out for it.......

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...y/feb26009.jpg
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Gottagrow,

Your plants are looking good:)

I prefer LST over topping, Reason is in the name. Low STRESS Training, When I LST a plant, there is very little if any stunting of growth, works a lot faster and more growth than topping a plant. IMO


Also you are using MG potting soil. I use it and with great results, you will need to do a coulple of things to keep your plants healthy though.

MG soil is pre-nuted so careful with nutes in the beginng that was part of your problems early on with nute burn. Then when watering alternate between nuted water and plane water, also when watering do it throughly to get nutes and water to the entire root system, exspecially when using plane water, pretty much do a flush. This removes any excess nutes and salts that have built up.

If you do this your entire grow you will have very nice sticky buds and you will not have any nute lock or burn.

By the way when I water I do it in the bath tub to let the excess water run out the bottom.

BOL JG.

Hey gottagrow awsome first grow, I am also on my first grow just not as big as yours. I have a question with your setup, I saw that you had one of your Mh lights basically on top of your box, I was wondering if there was any special type of glue you used to seal the light or if you had it just chillen on top, let me know, thank you

doing great man...you got the best to help ya;)
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

that light is just sitting up there with extra pieces of wood around the hole to keep in the light and its kinda propped up using a ruler cus i cut the hole too big...

ok well since its been awhile since ive gotten a chance to update i started flowering on march 1st so they are almost 3 weeks in as of today... now ths might sound liek a stupid question but if anybody could let me know if their hairs should be turning red yet? because on 2 of the plants they are...and i thought they wont turn red until theyre ready for curing? buds arent too big yet but heres some pictures... the first picture is from the march 8th but i ripped it out last night because my girl started growing balls...my favorite was the only one that turned into a hermie.... so now i am down to 5
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ch18hermie.jpg
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At 3 weeks you may have red hairs especially if you have powerful lighting and/or dry conditions but the plant should continue to grow new calaxes and white hairs for a another month or even two. In your grow the plants look great. They will grow nice buds in time.

Shov

beautiful!

well now i am 5 1/2 weeks into flower and i guess ive been expecting bigger buds than ive got but here are some pics....what do ya think?
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...pril8th001.jpg
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ive also got 7 clones from supposed purple deisel, jack herer, and grapefruit that i just put into my flower box also which im starting a thread on so look for it

Nice plants m8...:thumbsup: but i think you need better lightning....

Did you ever put the lights inside the box? I'd say having them outside the box is probably losing you quite a bit of light.

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Nice plants m8...:thumbsup: but i think you need better lightning....

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Like I always say, you can never have too much light.

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Did you ever put the lights inside the box? I'd say having them outside the box is probably losing you quite a bit of light.

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I dont know how it breaks down, but I do know that there is a direct correlation between how far your light is and how much lumens are getting from your light to the plants. I put my 400w HPS about 12 inches away from the tops of my plants, without my cooltube though I could not do this.

Prop's on Your Box:thumbsup:

Look's like it will give you many year's of good service!!!

Your Plant's are coming along as well!!!


Hey, In Your 1st Post, the last Picture, Where you Painted the Waffer Board Plywood. Did you notice the Bolt Impression????

We used to come across that shit all the time!! Hell on Saw Blades, And I bet the Dude that droped that bolt, is still looking for it!!!~~~HAHAHAHA

well i got some bad news...im having a code inspection from the township that i live in this week and ive got to chop down my girls...there too big to hide anywhere and theres nothing i can do about it..im sure there not ready to be cut but atleast my friend said hell get my clones out of here for the day for me and bring them back when there done doing there stupid little inspection...ill post my final pics later tonight:(

BUMMER:mad:

They were looking so nice. What kind of Orwellian township do you live in? Must be the northeast. How big will government get before we, the people, have had enough. Trading freedom for security, privacy for policing, ughhh.

Ron Paul in 2012!!!!

well its been alil while since i had the chance to get on and post my last pics of my girls before they had to be chopped down way too early....im so pissed, but here they are
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...420crop003.jpg
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well thats all of them...what do ya think for bein chopped early?
check out my 2nd grow log...ive got purple deisel, jack herer, and grapefruit....i dont know which is which and i have to update that log alittle more often too....

It may not Be what you wanted. But it stilol turned out Good, Be Proud!!!

When is the next inspection?? :wtf:Is it going to enter fear with this next Grow????:wtf:

:wtf:I've tried the Buddy thing, along long time ago!!! You get Burned:wtf::mad:

:pimp::pimp::pimp::pimp:

thought i'd say congrats man, i've got 2 daughters myself and it's been wonderful having them in my life.
anyway, i didn't see anything for odor control, that box looks like it could be made stealthy, even for an inspection. if they can't see it and they can't smell it how could they find it.
and your buds look very tasty, keep it up and thanks for sharing your efforts for the rest of us to enjoy and learn from.

anybody got any tips so i can get a better yeild next time cus it wasnt worth the electric for the ounce that i got...

really though, you would have gotten more if you hadn't had to cut them down, and they looked real nice. plus, your still new to this growing thing, aren't you? so don't give up, keep at it, you couldn't hit a home run the first time you swung the bat, be glad 'cause i'd say you hit a double, right out of the box.
and again, congratulations on your little girl, she must be going on 3 months now, any baby pics?
sorry, i have daughters myself

bozo,
peace, love, dope