National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

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02-01-2008, 03:15 PM
epxroot

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

NTU Report: Other Republicans would increase spending by billions

According to a report released Tuesday by the National Taxpayers Union, Texas Congressman Ron Paul is the only remaining presidential candidate who proposes net spending cuts.

According to the report, Congressman Paulâ??s proposals would cut government spending by over $150 billion, a conservative estimate of the spending reductions Dr. Paul has proposed. The report concludes that the other remaining Republican candidates, Mitt Romney, John McCain and Mike Huckabee, have proposed spending increases of $19.5 billion, $6.9 billion and $54 billion respectively.

â??It should come as no surprise that when you crunch the numbers Ron Paul is the only Republican who would actually shrink the size and cost of the federal government,â? said Ron Paul campaign economic advisor Don Luskin. â??Romney, McCain and Huckabee donâ??t hold a candle to Ron Paul â?? the only true fiscal conservative running for President.â?

In ten terms in Congress, Ron Paul has never voted for a tax increase or for an unbalanced budget.

Ron Paul 2008: National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending
02-01-2008, 03:19 PM
Markass

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by epxroot

NTU Report: Other Republicans would increase spending by billions

According to a report released Tuesday by the National Taxpayers Union, Texas Congressman Ron Paul is the only remaining presidential candidate who proposes net spending cuts.

According to the report, Congressman Paulâ??s proposals would cut government spending by over $150 billion, a conservative estimate of the spending reductions Dr. Paul has proposed. The report concludes that the other remaining Republican candidates, Mitt Romney, John McCain and Mike Huckabee, have proposed spending increases of $19.5 billion, $6.9 billion and $54 billion respectively.

â??It should come as no surprise that when you crunch the numbers Ron Paul is the only Republican who would actually shrink the size and cost of the federal government,â? said Ron Paul campaign economic advisor Don Luskin. â??Romney, McCain and Huckabee donâ??t hold a candle to Ron Paul â?? the only true fiscal conservative running for President.â?

In ten terms in Congress, Ron Paul has never voted for a tax increase or for an unbalanced budget.

Ron Paul 2008: National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

but don't forget, ron paul's a 'nut' and doesn't know how government works, so we can't cut spending and are just going to have to keep spending money we don't have until the economy crashes and america fails :thumbsup:

Ron Paul is here to save our country! :thumbsup:
02-01-2008, 04:06 PM
FlyGuyOU

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

im wondering how the republican party has losts its way so much. they now are not really any different that dems. do you want to waste money under the guise of natl defense, or do you want to waste money under the guise of helping the poor? they both are a WASTE of money. a waste of MY money.
02-01-2008, 04:14 PM
Psycho4Bud

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Sure he'd save the most.....after he cuts the hell out of the military there would be alot of money saved. In the meanwhile we can watch our economy crash because the oil reserves that we depend on in the middle east won't be to our disposal anymore.

Nukes flying out of Israel because they no longer have our backing and the conflict with Iran/Syria began. Hell, none of that fallout would affect us.....right?

This dude is a nut on many levels.........

Have a good one!:s4:
02-01-2008, 04:23 PM
epxroot

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

I believe the people who think we need to stay there are nuts on many levels. Why was not all of that happening before we went in? HE also just wouldn't cut military spending. The Government is just too big bottom line! We will become a socialistic state if we continue our ever so popular trend in Government spending.
02-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Markass

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Sure he'd save the most.....after he cuts the hell out of the military there would be alot of money saved. In the meanwhile we can watch our economy crash because the oil reserves that we depend on in the middle east won't be to our disposal anymore.

Nukes flying out of Israel because they no longer have our backing and the conflict with Iran/Syria began. Hell, none of that fallout would affect us.....right?

This dude is a nut on many levels.........

Have a good one!:s4:

He wouldn't cut the hell out of the military, he would bring our military to the united states, rather than in god knows how many other country's...and policing the world comes at an astronomical cost...as at least most of us have figured out by now..Why do we need to be the only country to spend tons of money making sure everyone in the world does the right thing..if canada was at threat I think it would be in our national interest, but when the middle east is at threat I think that's not grounds to spend all of our money rebuilding bridges that we blow up...especially when our bridges at home are old and weak..Who says nukes are going to fly out of israel..? I'm not so familiar with that, because I honestly could care less, I'm more focused on what happens in my country. Isn't it time the world figured out how to solve some of their problems without us having to help them?
02-01-2008, 04:47 PM
Psycho4Bud

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

He brings home ALL military throughout the world and you don't think that there would be a cut in the military budget? I would love to see the Ron Paul mathematics behind this one. Where do we store and maintain all the weapons not to mention the soldiers? It would either be severe cuts or expenditures in order to house and maintain the hardware.

Well, gotta fly........keep up the faith my friend!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:
02-01-2008, 06:42 PM
Markass

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

He brings home ALL military throughout the world and you don't think that there would be a cut in the military budget? I would love to see the Ron Paul mathematics behind this one. Where do we store and maintain all the weapons not to mention the soldiers? It would either be severe cuts or expenditures in order to house and maintain the hardware.

Well, gotta fly........keep up the faith my friend!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

We wouldn't need such a gigantic military budget if we aren't expending who knows how much bombs, ammo, and tank cartridges..Where would we store the soldiers..? Perhaps at home with their families, being paid to defend this country, and luckily defending this country then wouldn't include starting wars for none other than corporate interest, completely based on lies and deception. I'm pretty sure we have the facilities to hold 200,000 rifles or so..that's a lot of guns, but there's a lot of military bases. A severe cut of expenditures would classify as...ending a $720 million dollar a day war, correct?? That, my friend, is a ton of money in a year...to defend Iraq's freedom by promoting democracy..? I would say that's the thing in this country that we have spent the most money on and have the least to show for in our country. Aside from the drug war, that is.
02-01-2008, 07:40 PM
Psycho4Bud

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markass

I'm pretty sure we have the facilities to hold 200,000 rifles or so..that's a lot of guns, but there's a lot of military bases.

Really? Here's a list of oversea bases we currently have:

Bahrain
NSA Bahrain

Belgium
NATO-Brussels, Belgium
SHAPE-Chievres, Belgium

Cuba
NS Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

Diego Garcia
NSF Diego Garcia

Germany
Ansbach, Germany
Bad Aibling, Germany
Bad Kreuznach, Germany
Bamberg, Germany
Baumholder, Germany
Darmstadt, Germany
Friedberg, Germany
Garmisch, Germany
Geilenkirchen AB, Germany
Giebelstadt, Germany
Grafenwoehr, Germany
Hanau, Germany
Heidelberg, Germany
Hohenfels, Germany
Illesheim, Germany
Kaiserslautern, Germany
Kitzingen, Germany
Mannheim, Germany
Ramstein AB, Germany
Rhein-Main AB, Germany
Schweinfurt, Germany
Spangdahlem AB, Germany
Stuttgart, Germany
US Army Europe, Germany
Vilseck, Germany
Wiesbaden/Mainz, Germany
Wuerzburg, Germany

Greece
NSA Souda Bay, Greece

Iceland
NAS Keflavik, Iceland

Italy
Aviano AB, Italy
Livorno, Italy
NAS Sigonnella, Italy
NSA Gaeta, Italy
NSA La Maddalena, Italy
NSA Naples, Italy
Vicenza, Italy

Japan
Camp S.D. Butler, Japan
Camp Zama, Japan
FLTACT Sasebo, Japan
Kadena AB, Japan
MCAS Iwakuni, Japan
Misawa AB, Japan
NAF Atsugi, Japan
Torii Station, Japan
Yokosuka, Japan
Yokota AB, Japan

Korea
COMFLEACTS Chinhae, South Korea
Camp Casey, South Korea
Camp Henry, South Korea
Camp Hialeah, South Korea
Camp Humphreys, South Korea
Kunsan AB, South Korea
Osan AB, South Korea
Yongsan, Korea

Netherland
Schinnen, Netherlands

Portugal
Lajes Field, Portugal

Puerto Rico
Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico
NS Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico

Saudi Arabia
US Mil Training Mission, Saudi Arabia

South Korea
COMFLEACTS Chinhae, South Korea
Camp Casey, South Korea
Camp Henry, South Korea
Camp Hialeah, South Korea
Camp Humphreys, South Korea
Kunsan AB, South Korea
Osan AB, South Korea

Spain
NS Rota, Spain

Turkey
Incirlik AB, Turkey
Izmir AB, Turkey

UK
JMF St. Mawgan, UK
Luke AFB, AZ
RAF Lakenheath, UK
RAF Menwith Hill, UK
RAF Mildenhall, UK
RAF Molesworth, UK
US Naval Activities, London UK
Yokosuka, Japan

Diego Garcia

Global Security page; Diego Garcia page
Kosovo

Camp Bondsteel -- Global Security page; Camp Bondsteel page
Camp Monteith -- Global Security page; Camp Monteith page
Kyrgyzstan

Kyrgyzstan facilities from Global Security
Kuwait

Camp Doha -- Global Security page; Camp Doha page
Qatar

U.S. military facilities in Qatar
Military Installation Guides 2.0

Transferring this amount of manpower and material would be a MUCH harder job than your stating.

Have a good one!:s4:
02-01-2008, 08:28 PM
epxroot

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Really? Here's a list of oversea bases we currently have:

Bahrain
NSA Bahrain

Belgium
NATO-Brussels, Belgium
SHAPE-Chievres, Belgium

Cuba
NS Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

Diego Garcia
NSF Diego Garcia

Germany
Ansbach, Germany
Bad Aibling, Germany
Bad Kreuznach, Germany
Bamberg, Germany
Baumholder, Germany
Darmstadt, Germany
Friedberg, Germany
Garmisch, Germany
Geilenkirchen AB, Germany
Giebelstadt, Germany
Grafenwoehr, Germany
Hanau, Germany
Heidelberg, Germany
Hohenfels, Germany
Illesheim, Germany
Kaiserslautern, Germany
Kitzingen, Germany
Mannheim, Germany
Ramstein AB, Germany
Rhein-Main AB, Germany
Schweinfurt, Germany
Spangdahlem AB, Germany
Stuttgart, Germany
US Army Europe, Germany
Vilseck, Germany
Wiesbaden/Mainz, Germany
Wuerzburg, Germany

Greece
NSA Souda Bay, Greece

Iceland
NAS Keflavik, Iceland

Italy
Aviano AB, Italy
Livorno, Italy
NAS Sigonnella, Italy
NSA Gaeta, Italy
NSA La Maddalena, Italy
NSA Naples, Italy
Vicenza, Italy

Japan
Camp S.D. Butler, Japan
Camp Zama, Japan
FLTACT Sasebo, Japan
Kadena AB, Japan
MCAS Iwakuni, Japan
Misawa AB, Japan
NAF Atsugi, Japan
Torii Station, Japan
Yokosuka, Japan
Yokota AB, Japan

Korea
COMFLEACTS Chinhae, South Korea
Camp Casey, South Korea
Camp Henry, South Korea
Camp Hialeah, South Korea
Camp Humphreys, South Korea
Kunsan AB, South Korea
Osan AB, South Korea
Yongsan, Korea

Netherland
Schinnen, Netherlands

Portugal
Lajes Field, Portugal

Puerto Rico
Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico
NS Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico

Saudi Arabia
US Mil Training Mission, Saudi Arabia

South Korea
COMFLEACTS Chinhae, South Korea
Camp Casey, South Korea
Camp Henry, South Korea
Camp Hialeah, South Korea
Camp Humphreys, South Korea
Kunsan AB, South Korea
Osan AB, South Korea

Spain
NS Rota, Spain

Turkey
Incirlik AB, Turkey
Izmir AB, Turkey

UK
JMF St. Mawgan, UK
Luke AFB, AZ
RAF Lakenheath, UK
RAF Menwith Hill, UK
RAF Mildenhall, UK
RAF Molesworth, UK
US Naval Activities, London UK
Yokosuka, Japan

Diego Garcia

Global Security page; Diego Garcia page
Kosovo

Camp Bondsteel -- Global Security page; Camp Bondsteel page
Camp Monteith -- Global Security page; Camp Monteith page
Kyrgyzstan

Kyrgyzstan facilities from Global Security
Kuwait

Camp Doha -- Global Security page; Camp Doha page
Qatar

U.S. military facilities in Qatar
Military Installation Guides 2.0

Transferring this amount of manpower and material would be a MUCH harder job than your stating.

Have a good one!:s4:

That's a lot of wasted money...:(
02-02-2008, 04:05 PM
Markass

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Really? Here's a list of oversea bases we currently have:

Bahrain
NSA Bahrain

Belgium
NATO-Brussels, Belgium
SHAPE-Chievres, Belgium

Cuba
NS Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

Diego Garcia
NSF Diego Garcia

Germany
Ansbach, Germany
Bad Aibling, Germany
Bad Kreuznach, Germany
Bamberg, Germany
Baumholder, Germany
Darmstadt, Germany
Friedberg, Germany
Garmisch, Germany
Geilenkirchen AB, Germany
Giebelstadt, Germany
Grafenwoehr, Germany
Hanau, Germany
Heidelberg, Germany
Hohenfels, Germany
Illesheim, Germany
Kaiserslautern, Germany
Kitzingen, Germany
Mannheim, Germany
Ramstein AB, Germany
Rhein-Main AB, Germany
Schweinfurt, Germany
Spangdahlem AB, Germany
Stuttgart, Germany
US Army Europe, Germany
Vilseck, Germany
Wiesbaden/Mainz, Germany
Wuerzburg, Germany

Greece
NSA Souda Bay, Greece

Iceland
NAS Keflavik, Iceland

Italy
Aviano AB, Italy
Livorno, Italy
NAS Sigonnella, Italy
NSA Gaeta, Italy
NSA La Maddalena, Italy
NSA Naples, Italy
Vicenza, Italy

Japan
Camp S.D. Butler, Japan
Camp Zama, Japan
FLTACT Sasebo, Japan
Kadena AB, Japan
MCAS Iwakuni, Japan
Misawa AB, Japan
NAF Atsugi, Japan
Torii Station, Japan
Yokosuka, Japan
Yokota AB, Japan

Korea
COMFLEACTS Chinhae, South Korea
Camp Casey, South Korea
Camp Henry, South Korea
Camp Hialeah, South Korea
Camp Humphreys, South Korea
Kunsan AB, South Korea
Osan AB, South Korea
Yongsan, Korea

Netherland
Schinnen, Netherlands

Portugal
Lajes Field, Portugal

Puerto Rico
Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico
NS Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico

Saudi Arabia
US Mil Training Mission, Saudi Arabia

South Korea
COMFLEACTS Chinhae, South Korea
Camp Casey, South Korea
Camp Henry, South Korea
Camp Hialeah, South Korea
Camp Humphreys, South Korea
Kunsan AB, South Korea
Osan AB, South Korea

Spain
NS Rota, Spain

Turkey
Incirlik AB, Turkey
Izmir AB, Turkey

UK
JMF St. Mawgan, UK
Luke AFB, AZ
RAF Lakenheath, UK
RAF Menwith Hill, UK
RAF Mildenhall, UK
RAF Molesworth, UK
US Naval Activities, London UK
Yokosuka, Japan

Diego Garcia

Global Security page; Diego Garcia page
Kosovo

Camp Bondsteel -- Global Security page; Camp Bondsteel page
Camp Monteith -- Global Security page; Camp Monteith page
Kyrgyzstan

Kyrgyzstan facilities from Global Security
Kuwait

Camp Doha -- Global Security page; Camp Doha page
Qatar

U.S. military facilities in Qatar
Military Installation Guides 2.0

Transferring this amount of manpower and material would be a MUCH harder job than your stating.

Have a good one!:s4:

Good god!!! no wonder we're fucking going bankrupt, I wonder how much our TOTAL international defense spending from this tallies in one day..:wtf: why do we need troops in england? are there english troops in america? portugal, the netherlands, why, why, why?? To me it is the stupidest fucking idea to have troops in all of these countries...if I recall, the uk was helping us but not so much anymore? Italy, greece, a fucking absolute waste of money...holy shit..We're the policeman of the world, the exact opposite of what bush got elected for saying...

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02-06-2008, 03:24 AM
melodious fellow

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markass

Good god!!! no wonder we're fucking going bankrupt, I wonder how much our TOTAL international defense spending from this tallies in one day..:wtf: why do we need troops in england? are there english troops in america? portugal, the netherlands, why, why, why?? To me it is the stupidest fucking idea to have troops in all of these countries...if I recall, the uk was helping us but not so much anymore? Italy, greece, a fucking absolute waste of money...holy shit..We're the policeman of the world, the exact opposite of what bush got elected for saying...

Gotta love it when simple minds get power trips :)

Lots and lots of wasted money. Almost 10 trillion in debt now. Could be healthcare or education or space exploration or helping the poor and homeless or protecting our borders or anything else
02-06-2008, 04:36 AM
Xellos

National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Sure he'd save the most.....after he cuts the hell out of the military there would be alot of money saved. In the meanwhile we can watch our economy crash because the oil reserves that we depend on in the middle east won't be to our disposal anymore.

Nukes flying out of Israel because they no longer have our backing and the conflict with Iran/Syria began. Hell, none of that fallout would affect us.....right?

This dude is a nut on many levels.........

Have a good one!:s4:

lol.