The real deal on your lungs and weed?

Ok, so I have I heard many mixed messages. I have been smokin weed for about a year, and I have heard many opposing arguments as far as it being bad for your lungs and causing cancer. Some say that it does cause lung cancer, and that a joint is the equivalent to 20 cigs, or sumthin like that. Mostly I smoke out of a bong, which is supposed to be a lot better for your lungs, and make the hit alot more filtered? What do you guys think about this, are there are any serious risks that will develop from smoking weed. (Keep in mind, I only smoke like once a week, although on occasion more:rasta: )

I always felt like nobody really knew. I do know however that the 1 joint = 20 cigs thing is bullshit. It is equal to 20 cigs in terms of like smoke density or some stupid shit that has nothing to do with cancer. It's just propaganda. I quit smoking cigs a couple months ago when I started smoking weed heavily, and my lungs feel super clean compared to when I smoked nasty cigarettes!

deffinately better for your lungs than tobacco :wtf:

We should start building lungs out of hemp. :smokin:

smoke is not good for your lungs, tobbacco companies add stuff to tobbacco, thus making it less good for your lungs, weed smoking is not good for your lungs, is it equal to 20 cigarettes, no, is it equal to 1, i dont know, but all smoke=bad for lungs, its just the degree to which you will sacrafice yourself for something you like, its a decision i wasnt willing to make until recently, and i dont have a problem with it, i think the amount that i smoke will overall not affect my life in a way that something else couldnt, ever since ive started smoking ive lost 50 lbs due to dieting, and i would rather inhale smoke than be dangerously overweight. The feeling of my lungs after a heavy smoke session will pass in a day, but 50 lbs is something i have to carry with me, but that is my take on smoking.

As far as I know it has never caused cancer, however inhaling any kind of smoke is not good for the lungs. I remember reading an article claiming that although cannabis created more pre-cancerous lesions on the lungs, these were 'pre-cancerous' and never developed into actual lung cancer. These rips in the lung also occur with tobacco smoke, but these lesions become cancerous. This is because of the radiation given off from tobacco due to the company's use of the cost efficient high phosphate fertilizers which contain the radioactive elements lead 210 and polonium 210 (for English/Russian folks, this is the poison used on Litvinenko in a much higher concentration). Anyway, for more info just search tobacco radiation on google...quite a lot of articles on it

Scroll down to "Cancer- lung" or "Tobacco vs Cannabis" and start reading! And I do have the radioactive tobacco article in there somewhere. It is always good to look at the studies- they report facts, not suppositions!- Granny:hippy:

1 j = 20 cigs? thats bullshit. cigarettes are so much more addictive and damaging. plus, with bud, the only downside is coughing up lugis or "lung butter" if you will. not a big deal, it doesnt cause any pain.

I hit pipes until my lungs are full and I never really have any discomfort... to be honest it actually feels good to take a lungfull of weed smoke. Could be because I'm a smoker though, although thats something I'm cutting down on.

weed smoke is very bad for your lungs..

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Originally Posted by Jay Matix

weed smoke is very bad for your lungs..

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No, it isn't.

My personal opinion on the topic is as follows:
I am only 20 yrs old but I have been smoking everyday for about 5 years and I am really not worried about my long term health for a couple of reasons. One is that the fact that if MJ has been considered a medicine since we have been walking this planet, I dont think that people would be dying left and right because of disorders or cancers caused from inhalation of Cannabis. Second, by myself I only smoke about a gram AT THE MOST a day so if you combine that with the fact that our lungs ROUTINLY clean themselves from tar I dont think the smoke is really adding up in my own situation. However if you smoke like 3 or 4 J's or blunts everyday for your entire life the smoke from the weed and the paper will probubly add up. Caughing up phlem, sore throat? Possibly. Cancer? I DOUGHT IT.

Tar does build up in your lungs unless vaporized; don't believe me? Then just take a glance at your pipe. However just like most "Fun" things that exist, ALWAYS USE IN MODERATION. If you wanna be safe and sure, just vape and/or edibles.

Happy Tokaging;)

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Originally Posted by psteve

No, it isn't.

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YES IT IS!!!!!

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Originally Posted by mseerob

YES IT IS!!!!!

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haha isn't it funny how the same people keep arguing that WEED IS NOT MENTALLY ADDICTING/ WEED SMOKE IN UR LUNGS IS NOT BAD FOR U"

SMOKING CANNABIS IS NOT HARMLESS!... not only are u making your lungs BLACK.. just because it doesn't cause cancer doesn't mean that it can't cause many of the same respiratory illnesses as tobacco smoke. (as weed smoke is much more dense)

[my friend just cleaned a pipe that he'd been using on regular basis for about a year.. and he managed to get a BLACK ball of resin the size of a GOLF BALL.. just IMAGINE the nasty sticky black resin build-up in your lungs!!]

Don't fall for the "WEED IS GOOD FOR U JUST BECAUSE IT CAN'T KILL U BULLSHIT.." your lungs aren't meant to be a chimney.

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Originally Posted by Jay Matix

just because it doesn't cause cancer doesn't mean that it can't cause many of the same respiratory illnesses as tobacco smoke. (as weed smoke is much more dense)
Don't fall for the "WEED IS GOOD FOR U JUST BECAUSE IT CAN'T KILL U BULLSHIT.." your lungs aren't meant to be a chimney.[/B]

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Have you ever inhaled smoke before? Because if you have inhaled any sort of smoke, ALL of that smoke has collected in your lungs therfore your lungs are black right?
Your lungs ROUTINLY clean themsleves or my previous statement would be true for all of us humans. You say respitory illnesses right? If I developed this what sort of long term effects would I be looking at? Just curious. Would you say my life say 30 years from now could be alot worse because I smoke a flower daily instead of drinking alcohal or smoking death sticks A.K.A. cigs? I feel relativly safe:D

^Preaching to the chroir LIP:thumbsup:

the reason you aren't worried about your future health is you are just 20 years old, most people that age aren't worried about life at 50 or later....hence all the tattoos you people get and later regret....

there is far more tar in marijuana than in dried tobacco, but probably less pollutants, since most pot is grown without as many harmful commercial style fertilizers...

the problem with smoke of any kind, is that it contains carbon monoxide, carbon monoxide binds to the hemoglobin in your blood, and thereby reduces the oxygen carrying c

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Originally Posted by gladbag420

the problem with smoke of any kind, is that it contains carbon monoxide, carbon monoxide binds to the hemoglobin in your blood, and thereby reduces the oxygen carrying c

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but dont we recyle our blood regualy
so that wouldnt be the casue of long term illness or cancer would it?

I don't know what weed does to our lungs exactly, but the fastest kid on the cross country team at my school smokes weed A LOT. I know that would not be the cast with cigarettes.

The truth is (well I'm not a doctor), but any kind of smoke is bad for your lungs. 1 joint does not equal to 20 cigs, that's just government bullshit. Cigarettes are bad because they have chemicals and other shit mixed in, that's why people get cancer with them, but bud is clean pure smoke.

The bottom line is that, bud won't cause cancer, but it's still not healthy for your lungs.

Anyways get all your bud delivered to your door, today.

Great admonishment; "NOTICE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT: Pursuant to the Constitution of the State of California, Amendment III, Sec. 3.5(c), state law enforcement officials have �no power� to refuse to enforce a statute on the basis that federal law or federal regulations prohibit the enforcement of such statute.� It is therefore your legal duty and responsibility to respect and obey this agreement per the above-cited legislation, and the leave the individuals and gardens herein described unmolested and unreported to federal authorities. Failure to follow state law may result in legal action being taken against you. Thank you for your understanding and compliance." Doesn't seem worded right though. The statement should read more along the line of "State law enforcement officials do not have the authority to enforce federal laws" shouldn't it?

But don't you feel a little uncomfortable stating "We get shipments from Hawaii, Jamaica and Mexico"? Sorta like you're taunting the feds.

Lead, u referring to the medical delivery of free marijuana or free delivery of fairly priced mmj? I like the price but made a comment on hiz pozt of "I don't want it completely legalized!" Or something like that. Cause he/she may have to pay more for a liquor type license to make bundles more of $. Cept, if those prices are real, I'll take some! i am an equal opportunity opportunist! meddeliv!
Limiting myself, so short form. Ran out of room so you'll just have to imagine the rest! So read Granny Storm Crow info, while you can!

Smoking and cancer, ask Weedhound! She made it very clear what her doc told her in her thread, check it out.

I believe the study you are referring to is the recent one that came out last week, which said Austrailia did a study and said one tobacco cig. eqivalent in size, etc. to one joint of cannabis is the equvilent of 3 tobacco cigs in the effect to your lungs. Same paper, size, etc.
Last Fall they said it was no longer true.
As they came up with these same figures and findings approx 27 years ago, 3:1 ratio! So, it will be overturned in the future. Seems totally irrelevant.
What will happen to your lungs IUD--first look for worms in your nose. then an IQ of 0, then snails out of your ears and blue lips, blue digits-fingers toes or loss of them completely, coughing so hard you hit the wrong keys. Basically, over the years you'd become an irritating asshole due to the lack of oxygen to whatever is between the snails and worms!

been a dailysmoker for bout 6 year's, mostly blunts, the two times i have quit i'd go through daily coughing/spitting up black shit...i would think most is from the excessive blunt use but who knows...although ive been usin my volcano digit for 4 months now ya dig :rasta:

Thats why I like bubble bags....you strip off the MJ trichs from the plant material...your only smoking the trichs not the plant material:thumbsup:

If you use a pipe or bong ....place a piece of tissue paper over the mouth of the bong or pipe and draw your hit through the tissue paper.

You will notice a nice yellowish/brown stain on the tissue paper... thats tar

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Originally Posted by Jay Matix

bla bla bla hogwash bla bla bla

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Ganja flowertops do no harm to the lungs, period.

5000 years of toking and no victims. Buds not leaves containing 33% thc. Leaves are ok for food and polstices, not toking. Vaporizers may put vapor into the lungs, that is defined as pneumonia. Bong water not changed can lead to problems, microbial damage possibly. Papers will have some harm but do to the expectorant of Ganja, you will cough up any toxins.

Cigarettes are adulterated tobacco products. You can't tax vegetables. Nothing added to Ganja, a natural expectorant. No health problems with cultures using organic tobacco. Indians, Egypt or Turkey. Only US grade A bullshit chemicals to harm. Not in Ganja.

Hundreds of cultures over thousands of years and not one victim outside of reefer mad idiots predicting the future that never arrives. Predicting the same thing 40 years ago and still no victims.

Capital punishment for drug worrier Gossip and the LIARS!

Organic Cannabis/Tobacco vs Chemical Cigarettes 01/11/02

"Marijuana is one of the least toxic substances in the whole pharmacopoeia"
Professor Lester Grinspoon, Harvard Medical School, USA

Cannabis Less Risky Than Alcohol/Tobacco, Says Report 03/15/02

"The commission has come to the conclusion that the moderate use of hemp drugs is practically attended by no evil results at all. ... ...moderate use of hemp... appears to cause no appreciable physical injury of any kind,... no injurious effects on the mind... [and] no moral injury whatever."
Indian Hemp Drugs Commission, 1894

Cancer risk in relation to radioactivity in tobacco 01/11/02

"There is no evidence... that any deleterious influence on the individual using [cannabis]"
Panama Canal Zone Report, 1925

Tobacco Radioactive, Pot Safer! 12/07/00

"Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor's Committee (1944 - LaGuardia) that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects" "the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is socially damaging, if not unworkable"
1968 UK ROYAL COMMISSION, THE WOOTTON REPORT

CANNABIS AND TOBACCO 06/14/00

"There are no long lasting ill-effects from the acute use of marijuana and no fatalities have ever been recorded ... there seems to be growing agreement within the medical community, at least, that marijuana does not directly cause criminal behaviour, juvenile delinquency, sexual excitement, or addiction."
Dr J. H. Jaffe,
The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics.
L.Goodman and A Gillman, 3rd edn. 1965

Costa Cannabis Test Tobacco vs Cannabis 07/02/00

"Users in our matched-pair sample smoked marijuana in addition to as many tobacco cigarettes as did their matched non-using pairs. Yet their small airways were, if anything, a bit healthier than their matches. We must tentatively conclude either that marijuana has no harmful effect on such passages or that it actually offers some slight protection against harmful effects of tobacco smoke"
Cannabis in Costa Rica:
A Study of Chronic Marijuana Use; Institute of Human Issues.

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I just found this article from a 2006 study. Titled......"Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection"

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By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 26, 2006; A03



The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.

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An interesting theory i've heard - "Unlike tobbacco which paralysis the avioli in the lungs rendering them useless (emphysima), cannabis just kills them forcing the lungs to create new ones, which keeps the resipitory system in order".

I'm sorry I don't have all the time right now to read all the post, I'm kinda speed posting.

but anyway, from what I have heard studies show Cannabis smoke and tobacco smoke are very different. Even when it comes to cancer causing, the two are very different from each other, so much so that I heard patients who smoke 5-10 joints a day, develop Flem but not cancer from smoke inhalation, where as it is widely know heavy cigarette and light cigarette use can cause lung cancer..

one question, All the cannabis patients now, especially in Cali, have been smoking for well over 10-15 years now, with allot if not most not smoking cigarette's at all. you would think by now we would see allot more lung cancer developing in the medical cannabis community.

dont know if this has been said as i only read the first page but me and mary got it going on and she can be bad for your lungs as she has a tendency to suppress your imune system and kills the good little bacteria guys that clean your lungs (apologize forgot the name of them) i know this because i researched it after dust from my pc made me ill and caused a mutation of the good yeast bacteria into its harmfull form which if left to progress eventually mutates into cancer also the dust never effected me before only after smoking bud for a year that being said it also did help in the recovery after i realized what was wrong it does seem to have cleansing properties aswell

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dont know if this has been said as i only read the first page but me and mary got it going on and she can be bad for your lungs as she has a tendency to suppress your imune system and kills the good little bacteria guys that clean your lungs (apologize forgot the name of them) i know this because i researched it after dust from my pc made me ill and caused a mutation of the good yeast bacteria into its harmfull form which if left to progress eventually mutates into cancer also the dust never effected me before only after smoking bud for a year that being said it also did help in the recovery after i realized what was wrong it does seem to have cleansing properties aswell

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Capital letters and periods help....

I don't think you got sick from the dust just because you started smoking cannabis.... You probably got sick because of your lack of keeping a clean environment....

People blaming cannabis for things reminds me of that Afro Man song.... La Di Dat Da Darrara....Darrara....Dat Daaaaaaa.....because I got high, because I got high, because I got highhhhiiiiiaaaaaa....

Come back in ten years and let us know if you still think it was the fact that you smoked that actually contributed to you getting sick from the dust from your PC....

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I don't think Cannabis in general is particularly bad for your lungs.

But that doesn't mean other things aren't bad for your lungs.

If you buy cheaper outdoor you are going to be smoking dust and smog particles, etc along with the weed. My lungs certainly do feel sore sometimes after smoking some harsh outdoor.

And Hash, Hash Oil, etc tend to be harder on your lungs than regular weed also.

So while smoking Cannabis probably isn't too harmful, if your regular routine involves smoking outdoor with the "essence of earth" all over it and smearing a bunch of hash oil on top - that is not going to be very easy on your lungs especially over the long term.

Occasional smoking is OK. Don't Worry!!! It wont harm you.

Well Weed does not cause cancer and 1 joint with just weed in it is the equivalent to taking one pull from a cig
how i no this is because they treat people with cancer and asthma in California With weed

Weed has more than 200 Known medical uses
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God didnt make weed a drug. Man did

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