BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Satellite could plummet to Earth
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I'd punch a satellite in the face.
where u gonna find a satelite with a face?
''In his estimate, the satellite weighs about 20,000 pounds (9,072kg) and is the size of a small bus.''
dude i wouldnt try an punch that
Damn, I better make it a sucker punch then.
hahahah :thumbsup::jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by BurninKush
No sucker punch necessary, the war hawks are going to shoot it dang.
BBC NEWS | Americas | US plans to shoot down satellite
They are saying it contains harmful toxins that kill humans (no shit).
Conspiracists are saying that it's because they don't want any rogue states getting their hands on the technology.
I'd go further and say that there is no threat from a satellite and the US made it up because they want to test some new star wars weapons without drawing any unnecessary media attention.
We'll find out either this month, or maybe in 30 years...
I'm pretty sure there is a real satelite coming down, but I would not be surprised if they decided to blast it more as a way to test their anti-satelite weapons than out of a concern for public safety. The Chinese blasted one of their own satelietes into smithereens last year, so this might just be a chance to show we can do it too. The problem with the Chinese test was that it was on a satelite in a high orbit, and it created thousands of bits of space junk that will be in orbit for a very long time, creating a hazard to other satelites and spacecraft. This spy satelite is already on a decaying orbit, so it's a good chace to blow one up without having the junk float around forever. All the bits will be comng down soon anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLeodGanja
That could be potentially lethal if your on a space walk! Or even in a space craft. Typical of the Chinese government, no respect for the environment.
Right now collisions between space junk and functioning satelites or between space junk and other space junk are relatively rare, but they do happen. There is a theory that if there is enough space junk, then eventually it will reach a "tipping point" or "critical mass" in which collisions create more fragments, which make more collisions, and more fragments, and so on unitl we have a lethal layer of fragments. They refer to it as a "cascade."Quote:
Originally Posted by McLeodGanja
Somtimes one part of the Chinese government does not know what another is doing. One part of the Chinese government was set to host an international conference about how to avioid the theoretical space junk "cascade" at about the same time another part decided to blow a satelite into a thousand pieces. It served as a great embarrassment to the Chinese at the conference that their own government had committed an act that may yet make a debris cascade inevitable.
According to Space.com, you can use the same Heavens Above website that I use to see the Space Station to see this spy satelite.
Here's the article: SPACE.com -- See the Falling Spy Satellite
And here's my thread about how to see the Space Station: http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-...-overhead.html
As long as it isn't shot down, you can use the website to predict when and where the doomed spy satelite will pass over your area. After you enter your location, click the link for info on USA 193, and follow the links until you get to the prediction page.
Thanks, but I was just going along the lines that if it does smack someone in the ass, it's most likely going to be one of the other 6 or 7 billion people on the earth, not to mention the animals. Nice post about that but I prefer to just gaze at the more distant and still white dots in the sky. I have seen those things and wondered why they were moving many times. I always used to think it was the space shuttle.
I was chewing this monkey at work and I was thinking several things.
Supposing you blow the shit out of a 20 ton satellite. How can they be sure that they won't bite off 10 and a half tons of the fuckle on an anti-zenith spiral?
I'm assuming that things from space that enter the atmosphere and burn out do so on the basis that they have the time to, since they are not flying downwards at a thousands mile an hour, but instead surfing the parallel fire of air friction.
I'm sure though that the cascade doomsday scenario is beyond Star Trek, it's a pretty big planet we are on and I think you'd need a lot more shit up there to create a problem.
I'm not sure whether satelites burn up more on shallow trajectories or step ones. Shaloow provides more time, but steep more heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by McLeodGanja
As for the Start Trek doomsday space junk chain reaction cascade, it is somethihg I've been hearing about for a long time. Here's an article from about a year ago when the Chinese blew up their satelite and possibly endagered other satelites with the debris: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/06/sc...ce/06orbi.html
Blimey! Good article.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
Doesn't it make you feel kind of like in terms of the technology we rely on that we are living on borrowed time?
Think I'll just hang on to my old copy of Philips street map. Actually that would definately be a good idea I don't think they have GPS for bicycles yet.
LOL,As Soon as A Read this I started crackin up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BurninKush
But on a serious note,Thats trippy.
LMAO what did I say? Here, the Russians are as paranoid as me! :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by McLeodGanja
BBC NEWS | Americas | US spy satellite plan 'a cover'
Russia: US sat smash plan a cover
Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:38:59
Russia has called the US plans to shoot down a damaged spy satellite carrying toxic fuel a cover for testing an anti-satellite weapon.
Russia's Defense Ministry on Saturday accused the US military of failing to provide enough information to back its plan to smash the satellite next week with a missile so other countries could assess possible dangers.
It also said that the US aims to test its "anti-missile defense system's capability to destroy other countries' satellites" and such testing essentially means the creation of a new type of strategic weapons.
The US said last week that it would use a missile to destroy the satellite, to stop it from crash landing.
But Russia has argued that various countries' spacecraft had crashed to Earth in the past, and many countries used toxic fuel in spacecraft, but this had never before merited such "extraordinary measures".
United States is going to shoot down the satellite next week while it strongly criticized China last year for testing a missile specifically designed to take out satellites and accused the country of testing an anti-satellite weapon.
Heavens above! I wasn't even being serious about that either.:stoned:
The Chinese are also protesting the shoot-down.
It looks like the Navy is planning to blast it as soon as Wednesday night or possibly Thursday sometime.
Not anymore. It's been delayed because of bad weather.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Weather may delay satellite shot
Looks like we have two threads on this subject. Here's the other one: http://boards.cannabis.com/current-e...satellite.html
They blasted the thing earlier this evening: SPACE.com -- Navy Hits Satellite With Heat-Seeking Missile
Defense Department: Navy missile hits dying spy satellite - CNN.com
LOL damn mufukaz on this site is 2 funny for TVQuote:
Originally Posted by BurninKush
Damn. This is insane.
My mind immediately popped up with "Why can't we all just chill? Why do we have to even have anti-missile supplies to test? Why can't we all just get along???"
Then I realized I'm way too high to be thinking..........so time for another bowl.
that is really f*cking ridiclous
This video of the briefing has a film clip of the impact: Pentagon confident satellite's toxic fuel destroyed - CNN.com
Russia is probably right.
They should expose our ass bad for this etremely hypocritical and environmentally hazardous act even if it is just a regular harmless satellite.
Not likely thought... even with a 10 trillion dollar debt, it would not surprise me the least to see the idiots that run this mess of a place spending money we do not have on stupid Star Treck shit only to waste more more $ on anti satellite missles (that we accused Russia of having... again hyprocritical) to shoot down the shit we did not need to put into orbit in the first place.
Especially since we had to fake a space landing and cheat them out of the space race just to prove that the free world was so much better than their "Godless communism" as the red witch hunters called it.
peace