SUPER Stealth Rubbermaid growbox

So here is my newly constructed super stealthy rubbermaid growbox, i have seen others with the same concept but they don't use the lids and it doesn't really look that stealthy so i came up with this, i think i only loose a very minimul amount of space from this design compared to the others.I hope it all works well.I plan on putting a screen in there to do scrog, as well i plan on LSTing them.The plants in there now are clones i cut off a budding plant about 3-4 weeks into flower,i don't plan to have them all turn out but so far 6 out of 6 rooted and were transplanted.Anyways i will post some pics and wish me luck, let me know ur thoughts.

Hello pokherking! I hope you will do your best with this set up!
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Hey there cture, thanx, i hope i do good as well.Well as for the advantages there isn't many really, there is just the main big reason......."Stealth",,,,,,sure it isn't that stealth but how much can u really hide the fact that ur growing weed,not much, and this is the best i can come up with for the amount i want to produce.You could always go smaller but this is whats gonna work for me.I plan on having a seperate small but tall closet in which to keep a mother in and cut clones off her for the rubbermaid box.The thing is with this set-up i can easily just pull the plug and it's off and discreet,and just looks like 2 rubbermaid containers which everyone has stacked on top of each other, with the other ways of doing this i have seen guys put the 2 rubbermaids together without using the lids and it looks real suspicious, although that style can be hidden somewhere, with mine i have it right out in the open.You may also notice i have no filter or anti-smell device, this is not a problem for me either, seeing as my house is full of weed smoke anyways,but if it were a case of needing it hidden, like i said i just simply turn it off and if i had to, put a cover over the intake and exhaust.Anyways i feel as if i am rambling here (:stoned:) let me know if you wanna know anything else......Love peace and resin grease !!!

Hey man it looks good to me nice clean and simple. Your right about the others ones yours look like 2 containers stacked up. Keep it up and stay high.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

Looks awesome! Wow! You have done a really great job. I'm definitely going to try to mock mine up in similar fashion.

Hey thanx alot ilovetv i appreciate the nice comments,well so far things are going very well with it i would say, i had six clones cut and transplanted but 1 happened to not make it , so i layed her to rest and am now caring for 5.I have put the L.S.T. on 2 of them and wow! thats cool stuff, all the side shoots have headed upwards and are growing great.I hope to take one of the plants out of there and into another room to keep her as a mom.The original plant i took these cuttings from was just harvested the other day, it was only 1 plant(my first grow) but it looks to have turned out quite succesfull, i should get about an ounce off of her.I'm pretty happy about it, i will post some pics of the rubbermaid and the original mom and so on and will label them, thanx for all the comments !

Pics: 1- Buds off cut down mom
2- Momma before chop down
3- Open lid of rubbermaid
4- LSTing clone
5- Surviving clones

So here they are as of today, i got them tied down lots and there are shoots all over the place i love it !! I transplanted them yesterday and put 2 into the mother cab and left 3 to grow in the rubbermaid, i plan on putting the screen on soon but i am wondering how to get to the foliage under the screen and do flushings with the way i have this set up.Any suggestions on when to start flower in relation to when they reach the screen, i know it all depends on strain and everything else but any ideas ??

What do you use to get rid of the smell? Also, how do you keep the light out during the 12-hour dark period with the exhaust in the bottom?

The bottom isn't the exhaust, it looks like the intake and the exhaust is in that black box on the top with what looks like a home made carbon filter on it.

Oh ok. Well, regardless, it seems like light might get in through the white tube thing. How do you prevent that?

yes the two ports on the bottom are for passive intake not exhaust and i wrapped a black sock with the toes cut off around it when i go into flower to keep the light from getting in. As for the smell, it is not a problem for me, i don't need to hide the smell, but if you did need to, you could make a homemade carbon filter which i beleive "Bodom" has invented or uses himself, you can find it on here, search homemade carbon filter.Also you can use the mattalic kind of dryer hose and light wont get in that way, i just had a roll of the white kind so i used it instead.Hope that helps, anything else let me know, i'm happy too help if i can.

Very nice, i really like the stealthy setup of the two rubbermaids. that looks much less suspect. nice work.

great setup, my monkey will probably build a similar one as he will be in need of a separate vegging chamber (to obtain more perpetual harvesting)

so if you used HPS lights would your buds would be bigger?

The reason I am asking is that I have copied your style and started today, It is all built and plant will move in there in a day or so. So keep writing what your doing.

hey mud, i'm glad to here some people like it and appreciate evryones comments, i wouldn't suggest using an hps, the light would be to close to the plants as well there would more than likely be a huge overheating problem.I would stick with the cfl's.It could also be a fire hazard to put an hps in there.Anyways here they are.

Where did you get that double lightbulb socket plug in for the power supply?

i got the double sockets at my local hardware store,wally world doesn't have them here, which is where i get alot of stuff from but the hardware store has it all,they even have some plant food.If you live in canada, go to canadian tire.

So here they are as of today, i tied them down a bit more today as i do every couple days, and they are growing fairly healthy i beleive.Over ferted a couple days ago with Alaska fish fertilizer but they seem to be picking up again.

Well here they are today after putting on the screen yesterday, i plan on just cutting holes in the spaces needed when the tops come up, i just hope i have timed it properly and i get the buds to be just above the screen. Anyways wish me luck

Anyone even look at this ?

Yeah, people are. I saw it when you posted it but the buds aren't looking fantastic yet so I'll save good words until then!!!! BUT they are looking good. :stoned::stoned:

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i just hope i have timed it properly and i get the buds to be just above the screen.

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Nice grow! :)

Why would you want to "time" it properly?

The reason for installing a screen is to "train" your plants into creating an even canopy.

But you say tht you "hope" you have timed it properly...
So... you are not planning on training them?
Then why the screen?

I think there's miss communication somewhere in here...

Hey there, so yeah what i meant was i was hoping that i initiated flowering at the right time, i was thinking i was supposed to time it so that when the buds are starting to grow they should be level with the screen, am i wrong ? or am i supposed to tie the shoots down when they get to the screen ?? any help appreciated

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Hey there, so yeah what i meant was i was hoping that i initiated flowering at the right time, i was thinking i was supposed to time it so that when the buds are starting to grow they should be level with the screen, am i wrong ? or am i supposed to tie the shoots down when they get to the screen ?? any help appreciated

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Well, you are right on both accounts, actually.

You can 'time' it, although people sometimes place the screen over them as soon as they have enough height.

You have to tie down the shoots... or else the plant is not going to create an even canopy on its own.
As soon as they start popping over the screen, start tying them down.

How long into flower are you?
I scanned the thread quickly, but did not find the answer.
If they are into flowering already, considerably... do not tie them down too much. They will not be growing THAT much (this depends really on how along into flowering they are).


IMAGINARY GROW:
If we start with 6 inch clones, and the screen we place it 8 inches above...
When the clones cross to the top of the screen, just start tying them down.
Now is also a good time to do the FIM technique on them (NOT during flowering!).
All these shoots, secondaries, branches, etc, tie them down.

What you want, is a "full" canopy of weed.

Am I making sense??
LoL
Sorry... kinda... st0n3d

thats a sick set up bro. props :rastasmoke:

Nice setup! Im currently constructing a box jst for vegging/cloning. Keep us posted on the whole grow tho! I like how you have them double decked, it is a lot more stealthy. Jst stick that thing in any corner of a room and no one would give it a second look, hehe!

Well thanx alot everyone for the nice comments, i appreciate that :) , well to fill you guys in, i feed them every third watering with alaska fish fert,grotek's micro,mollasses and alaska morbloom.Other than that, i feed them water between with a bit of lemon juice to lower my ph level of the tap water. 12 on 12 off lights.I had a couple shoots that were getting to tall above the screen so i tied them down seeing as i am hoping for there to be top cola buds all around the screen,in a perfect world anyway hahaha.So i have fimmed these, in veg stage that is, cause i think you were wondering turtle and they are on day 24 of flowering today.I will post some new pics.nothin special yet but......... Thanx again everyone !

nice bro, please keep up the updates. Im curious to see your yield!! :thumbsup:

Hey thanx devil, well here's todays update, buds are starting to form nicely,unfortunately i have a vacation planned for next week and will be gone for a week, i am leaving my best friend in charge but hopefully it will all go well, ive timed it so he has to just give it water i already have put aside and measured.Then they will receive a nutrient feeding when i get back.Jezz they are starting to get stinkier now too, seems as if it's much more stinky than the last batch, which is the same strain.Although it was'nt in the rubbermaid.Won't let me upload my pics today sorry

Pokherking I ask for a truce between us and let the past be forgotten. If your up for answering some of my questions this would be most appreciative. Now I am using the Rubbermaid box idea, I have it all set up and currently growing three NL x AK plants. I have six 32 watt CFL's producing about 12,000 or 13,000 lumens in my two rubbermaid containers. I have had to remove two 32 CFL's from it because of a heat problem. Do I have too many or too little lumens. I also don't understand the heat problem, I have two computer fans one produces 72 cfm, the other produces 25 cfm with the outake being 144 cfm for that area. Can I put up another fan without fucking up the 2:1 ratio?

Truce ???? i did nothing wrong there pal and what you posted was pretty harsh out of the blue and had me pretty mad thats for sure but i brushed it off and forgot about it.....hmmmm....now you want help,,,irony....Well it's pretty funny but i'm not an ass so i will give you whatever help i can.

I would say the amount of light you have is plenty,don't use too many 32 watters, i use different spectrum bulbs for veg and flower which you may know or not ??? cool white or daylight for vegatation stage an warm white for flowering. So i am using 4 23watt bulbs and 2 29 watt bulbs i beleive,if you saw the earlier pictures you could see that i am using a desk fan and it seems to push the air pretty good,although i did have to add a second intake to help the flow, which is what i was going to ask you......what do you have for intake tubes or vents ???? Is good air getting sucked into those or that intake tube ???

This looks pretty sweet man, I'm thinking of building something pretty stealth and this looks like the kinda container I need.. I was gonna try source a pretty beefy computer case (had a perfect one, was a huge server sitting round my shed for years, but just last week my bro gave it away!) but I wouldn't mind trying something like this. I think the two boxes looks safer than the one..

Can I ask, roughly how much are you planning on getting per plant? I wanna start growing (prices here are a joke when you CAN find something) but I don't wanna bother if I'm not gonna be getting atleast an O, per plant if I can..

I've been checking out the Megaman line of Clusterlites, they seem to go up to pretty high wattages, their top dog is like 320w, but it's hard to find what spectrum they are, and how many Lumens they produce. I only wanna use CFL/Flouro's not HPS, because of elecy bill/safety reasons.. Would I be better off using relatively low wattage and plenty of them as opposed to one/two whopper ones? I feel this would give a better spread of light.

Let me know what ya think!

And to re-iterate, whopper looking grow! Can't wait until I'm raising something like this! :D

Thank for the encouragement and friendly comments mistawes, well to answer ur questions......you can never really judge how much you get from a single plant, too many variables, how much light,what strain,how much stress the plant had,the nutrients, you know what i mean. But an ounce per plant is about right if all goes well i beleive.But...... this is my first grow in the rubbermaid so i have no idea what kind of yield i will have, but if it all goes well i hope to get about 2 ounces or so and i have 3 plants in my totes.I have topped and lst'd these plants as well.As for the lights,i would suggest using more lower wattage bulbs rather than a few high wattage bulbs, more light to spread around,more of an area.I would say stay with cfl's DO NOT put an hps bulb inside the rubbermaid idea, i think it would be a complete fire hazard and you would also have major heat issues in there.Just make sure you have good air circulation,lots of air going out and lots of fresh air getting in.And don't forget to use 2 different spectrum bulbs for the 2 stages of growth, cool white or daylight bulbs for vegatation and warm white for flowering.Good luck ! and let me know if i can help with anything else.

I have for an exhaust fan a 4' inline fan with an attached carbon filter for my intake i have those two computer cooling fans. It sucks pretty good at 144 cfm. Is that important to use cool white for vegetation and warm white for flowering. What is the significance?

adr0510 you may not be getting enough air "out" of ur box due to the carbon filter ?? i'm not sure if thats the case or not ? kinda sounds like it, whats the temps in there ? that you need to know if you wanna know if it's too hot or not.As for the lights,the difference is the spectrum of the bulbs and yes it does make a difference.More on the flowering end of it though, what i mean is, from my experience, which isn't much by the way,you can use both types for vegging but it really seems to make a difference in flowering when you use warm white rather than cool white.I can't get into the specifics of the bulbs themselves, just look it up,it has to do with the heat they put off (Kelvins i beleive)

The temperature is usually around upper 80's to 90 degrees. It could be that my Odor Sok Carbon Air Filter is blocking air too much, it is a good filter but maybe too good. I have to be stealthy and cannot afford to use duct lines to a ventilation shaft. So cool white is what I have I think it gives off a pale white light, while the warm white gives off a more yellowish, less bright light is that correct? I guess I'll go with 5 32's instead might stablize the tempature a bit

here's some pics i took 5 minutes ago

I probably need to go to the original gro box thread. I just came across it the other day. Are the specs and install of the lights included in there ? Well I guess I'll find out but in case I miss it perhaps a link or something.

Thank you!

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I have for an exhaust fan a 4' inline fan with an attached carbon filter for my intake i have those two computer cooling fans. It sucks pretty good at 144 cfm.

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Odorsoks aren't rated for a fan that small. You need a real blower to run carbon filtration correctly.

You REALLY need to lay off jacking other peoples' threads. Another warning.

Well i am back from vacation, well it was actually a really long drive to check out a seed store about 2000 km's away,kind of an adventure......Anyways, my friend has done a great job taking care of my babies and they are doing great, in my eyes anyways.So today is day 36 in flowering.A very resiliant strain thats for sure, it's nice and easy to train and just easy to grow all around, wish i knew where it's "roots" came from.So i picked up some seeds on my venture, i got some "skunk indica", it says it grows nicely at around 3 feet so training it a bit shorter should be no problem.The strain i have now is a sativa and it seems to train nicely even though they normally grow tall, lets just hope this strain is as tough as this one is.Well here's some pics :)

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Well i am back from vacation, well it was actually a really long drive to check out a seed store about 2000 km's away,kind of an adventure......Anyways, my friend has done a great job taking care of my babies and they are doing great, in my eyes anyways.So today is day 36 in flowering.A very resiliant strain thats for sure, it's nice and easy to train and just easy to grow all around, wish i knew where it's "roots" came from.So i picked up some seeds on my venture, i got some "skunk indica", it says it grows nicely at around 3 feet so training it a bit shorter should be no problem.The strain i have now is a sativa and it seems to train nicely even though they normally grow tall, lets just hope this strain is as tough as this one is.Well here's some pics :)

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