Just wondering if any of the cannabis.com members think Rudy Giuliani's decision to "bet the farm" on Florida will pay off, or do you think he should have gone the traditional campaign route like the rest of the candidates?:stoned:
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Just wondering if any of the cannabis.com members think Rudy Giuliani's decision to "bet the farm" on Florida will pay off, or do you think he should have gone the traditional campaign route like the rest of the candidates?:stoned:
It's a very risky strategy. I think voters feel like if you're in this thing, get in from the beginning. I think he might win a few primaries, but he won't get the nomination.
i really hopes he drops out soon, as i also hope so will everyone else, but my man Ron
Hopefully Florida will be the end of Rudy.
I think he is just as in it as Ron Paul for christ sakes. Up to this point his strategy is looking good, he would have benifited greatly had Thompson won, but he still has a legit shot. Like I said in a another thread, it doesn't really matter if Billary is going to get the nomination, anyone maybe even Ron Pauly could beat it! Go Hill Billary!!!:thumbsup:
I'm really hoping he does not get far. He's a crook... as are most of the politicians.
Isn't he the guy that said
"And, marijuana is a very dangerous substance...We'd be much better off telling people the truth; marijuana adds nothing to the array of legal medications and prescription medications that are available for pain relief." ?? July 10, 2007, Concord, New Hampshire" ?
He needs a kick in the face tbh.
I think his strategy may backfire, Romney has nearly a 2 to 1 lead in delegates yet the media is calling McCain the front runner. I do not understand this as even if Rudy wins Florida he will still be in second with the delegate count.
And by the way Romney is the only viable candidate that is neutral on medical marijuana.
America doesn't need someone like Rudy Giuliani running this country by any means..he's a fucking thief, and a weasel
Not sure where you got that "neutral" stance. Downhere on our PBS news, they played a clip of Romney saying he was absolutely opposed to medical MJ several times because several physician sites carried it, too. The activists even had the video up here. Mormons are generally opposed to what they deem unnecessary or unhealthy substances/recreational drugs. Goes against their pearls of wisdom, I'm guessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by midlifecrisis
If he has answered "neutral" on some issues stance test since that patient asked him a question about it during an early press conference (where the clip I saw came from), then good. It's yet another reason to doubt Romney, though. Says one thing one time. Then the complete opposite another. Inflates his record of accomplishments one time. Then gives another version later. Says whatever'll get him the vote.
(Pretty much like them all.)
So if Rudy wins Florida and is in 2nd, how does he not have a chance? Let me see, Florida, Cali, NY, NJ, those off the top of my head will likely go to Rudy, how many delegates does that give him with just those 3? Who knows now, Cali is not an all or nothing state anymore. It will be intresting none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by midlifecrisis
This is not correct? Although I will admit that I believe that not a single candidate for either side genuinely supports mmj or moving to decriminalization, not even Ron Paul. If you believe otherwise that's fine, don't throw a fit because I think you are wrong, but you are. "True Believers" :stoned:
I have lived in NYC during the mayoralty of seven men, including the current office holder, Michael R. Bloomberg. Giuliani was better than the majority of them. I don't know if he'd make a good president, but the citizens of New York City were apparently pleased enough to reelect him, a Republican in a traditionally Democratic city. During his two terms, he took a city that was wrecked by decades of crime and neglect and helped restore it to a level that the residents can honestly say was, and still is, better than before he took office. Most people outside of NYC do not know this, understandably, and won't vote for him.
Living in the vicinity, can you tell me generally the attitude of law enforcement when Rudy was in office twords marijuana use and such? Just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
The police went after street dealers, and gangs, most of whom were disreputable people, and some were violent. If you were discreet, and did your pot business and smoking indoors, you'd never get hassled by the cops or busted. People that were selling pot 24/7 in apartment buildings, out of holes in the door for instance, were closed down when complaints were received - and I can't say I blame the neighbors and authorities for itQuote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
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Basically, if you're not a nuisance, and don't act stupid, you're pretty safe using, purchasing, and even dealing, pot in NYC.
That's actually pretty damn good.:thumbsup:
Has that kind of environment always been, how did Rudy have any impact on that policy if he had any, from what you know?:thumbsup:
Well, he instituted a number of "quality of life" measures that many liberals were highly critical of - such as stopping the "squeegie" guys who were basically bums that sprayed car windows with liquid and wiped them, whether you wanted it or not. During the previous administraton of David Dinkins, this sort of thing was rampant. He also went after panhandlers, who were very persistant and annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
The street-dealing of weed in Greenwich Village was way out of hand, as was the crime, before Rudy became mayor. Most of the pot sold there in the streets was either totally beat, or the "sale" would involve people getting robbed of ALL their money, credit cards, etc., without the option of going to the police because of their bad judgment and the illegal transaction they were attempting to complete. I've also known more dealers that were ripped off, or worse, often in their own homes, than ones who got busted by the police. I only met a few people in NYC that got busted big time, but that was for harder stuff, and their cases involved the feds.
If I go to cop a small amount of weed, always under the legal limit of 25 grams (or usually a 1/4 oz), I can often do the transaction right in the street during a weekday in NYC without worry - because my connection (who has a "regular" job) and I don't arouse suspicion and I have the street instincts and experience to avoid heat. Sometimes we'll just sit on the steps of a big library or museum and make the trade, with many people passing by - including cops. You just have to be comfortable enough with that sort of thing. Of course, you don't light up a joint there, lol, but you could probably get away with a few tokes on a quiet side street with minimal risk. People do that more in the boroughs, but street smoking is not rampant, at least not in my area.
That sounds pretty 420 friendly to me!:thumbsup:
Sounds like a pretty low priority for the law enforcement, sounds like gasp..........common sense.:thumbsup:
Of course Rudy has a chance, his plan was never to win the early states, he never would be able to anyway, not with those videos of him in drag all over youtube lol.
However, I don't think even he expected to have Ron Paul kick his ass in those early states, let alone see him come in 2nd in Nevada (even though he wasn't even close to 1st place, he still did pretty damn well for a candidate fox news doesn't think is worth reporting on!)
I think Giuliani's plan might backfire, especially now that McCain is gaining momentum, if Giuliani looses to McCain, I think that'll be big news for both candidates! Of course, I myself would never vote for either candidate no matter what happens, nothing is going to stop me from voting for Paul on the 5th :)
You hit the nail on the head I think. I am sure that he is just as surprised by Ron Pauls success as anyone. I am disappointed with the coverage of the campaigns by the media period, not just Fox. I think that Fox is slighting him, but that is there business. I bet that Rudy was counting on someone being somewhat of a front runner, but not Mccain. Mccain is going to give Rudy a run for his money, and I think that Romney will suck away more support from him. It's either going to be the most brilliant move of all time or the biggest mis-step ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailhead
In a way he has positioned himself as the under dog, could be genius! We'll see.
I think ghouliani has put too much time and cash into Florida that if he doesn't get first he will be out. Florida gives all the delegates to the winner and second place is a costly loss.
This from the New York Times today :thumbsup:
Crossing Mayor Giuliani often had a price
While in office, Republican's toughness edged toward ruthlessness
In August 1997, James Schillaci, a rough-hewn chauffeur from the Bronx, dialed Mayor Giuliani??s radio program on WABC-AM to complain about a red-light sting run by the police near the Bronx Zoo. When the call yielded no results, Mr. Schillaci turned to The Daily News, which then ran a photo of the red light and this front page headline: ??GOTCHA!?
That morning, police officers appeared on Mr. Schillaci??s doorstep. What are you going to do, Mr. Schillaci asked, arrest me? He was joking, but the officers were not.
They slapped on handcuffs and took him to court on a 13-year-old traffic warrant. A judge threw out the charge. A police spokeswoman later read Mr. Schillaci??s decades-old criminal rap sheet to a reporter for The Daily News, a move of questionable legality because the state restricts how such information is released. She said, falsely, that he had been convicted of sodomy.
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He did, but unless he's got an old converted Dolorean that runs on plutonium he ain't gonna make it now.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by ldg420
Sounds like he's dropping out in support of McCain. Possible V.P. talk in the background?
Have a good one!:s4:
I think that's a much more likely possibility than McCain/Romney, the more I watch those two go at each other. I think that's the best Rudy can hope for now, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I think a Romney ticket would include Huckabee.......just a feeling.
Have a good one!:s4:
Romney and McCain are not likely to share a ticket. I think Giuliani and McCain might want to share a ticket, but I'm not sure if it will actually happen. If McCain gets the nomination, his biggest problem will be that he doesn't really appeal to the more conservative Republican base. Neither does Giuliani. So I think he would try to pick someone who might add some balance to the ticket and bring in someone who would appeal more to conservatives. Although, McCain is a sort of a maverick and may ditch the idea of balance and go for whoever he wants. Who knows? This has been a wild race so far!
I think McCain's "in Iraq for 100 years" will torpedo him in the general election if he gets the republican nomination no matter who he chooses as a running mate.
i personaly think mccain is the repubs best choice for the nomination. he can pull the independent vote and a lot of the demacratic vote. and lets face it the hard core conservatives will vote for him just because hes a repub. cause you know it would be a cold day in hell when they vote for hillary or obama. hell even i think if it came down to mccain vs. hillary id go mccain. but if it comes down to romney vs. satan id vote for satan. romney just flat scares the crap outa me.
now as far as rudy goes i think hes just kidding himself if he thinks he still has a chance at gettin the nomination. he may however be trying for VP, that also kind gives me the willies as he scares me too but not as much as mitt.
I like McCain and I think he would be the bet Republican choice too. You are right that conservatives would vote for him over any Dem, but they might not go to the polls at all, which would hurt the bid for the Whitehouse as well as Republican Congressional and Senate candidates running in the same election
I'm a registered Democrat, but I don't necessarily vote a party ticket, and I would vote for McCain under some circumstances:
Obama vs. McCain --- vote for Obama
Obama vs. Romney --- vote for Obama
Clinton vs. McCain --- vote for McCain
Clinton vs. Romney --- vote for Clinton
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Originally Posted by dragonrider
Funny, that's exactly how I would vote. I just think Romney is the biggest sleazebag salesman I've ever seen, and Clinton is a manipulative (semi?) sociopath. Huckabee goes way too far wanting to make a constitutional amendment banning all gay marrage and abortion; makes me think he's a real religious extremist.
I agree with your take on Romney and Clinton. They both are very calculating and not very genuine. I get the impression that what you see is a front, and when I look past that front, I do not like what I see. Romney is a smarmy prick, and I just have a vsceral dislike of Clinton, even though it's hard for me to say exactly what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
My hope would be to have a choice between Obama and McCain. Then I think I could be happy either way. If it came down to a choice between Clinton and Romney, then I would just be choosing between the lesser of two weasels.