I gotta sprout and some questions

I planted a bagseed and got a sprout. :) This is a little dixie cup with some potting soil. I've been putting this literally 2 inches from the light. My light is gooseneck desk lamp with a single 26W 6500K CFL.

In the mean time I'm building up my rubbermaid box. I have 6 of these lights, with conduit and junction boxes that house my splices (wire nuts). I want to protect my house and give it a clean, neat appearance. Pix of that to come later.

Anyway, here are my sprout pix. Do you think this is doing ok? It took about 5 days to show an upside down U shaped stem. On day 1 (Tues) it popped out of the soil. Day 3 is today (Thurs) and you can see the rest. This is off a cell phone camera, so no real quality. It's about an inch tall and an inch wide now. It's growing noticeably wider but not much taller. I had an outdoor plant several years ago and it grew taller faster.

When should I replant this out of the dixie cup - how many nodes? I have a 6 inch plastic pot waiting.

I'll try again for some help. Using rubbermaid box since day 7 as mentioned. This is day #10 (9 days after it broke ground). 24/7 lighting. Box runs 76-80 degrees all day with ventilation. I transplanted around day 6 into a 6" pot. Rootball was at least 3x bigger than the plant. It's now about 2 inches wide and 2 inches tall. The leaves are very stiff like a wax bush and have lots of veins underneath.

Does this look ok? I think it's stunted and one of the leaves is mutant. No sign of a 2nd node to pop out anytime soon. Embryonic leaves are starting to die. Smells strong when you put your nose to it. Any thoughts?

FYI the white stuff in there is perlite dust.

Thanks! :hippy:

hmm...fisrt pic appeard healthier...

are you feeding it? if so, stop. and maybe clear all that crap off the soil surface....im not sure

The crap on the soil surface is perlite, just a little bit, used as a reflector for the underside of the leaves.

The soil is Miracle Gro Potting mix, 0.21, 0.07, 0.14. Otherwise I'm not feeding it anything but water every 3 days. I leave it sitting out to evaporate the chlorine. Is the soil the problem?

dont think so. ive used a MG soil before on seeds. (isnt the greatest, but it works)

i personnaly have found that small container seedlings will suck up a lot of water if light is readily available. make sure its neither overly dry or wet before waterings

I think it dried out a little too much. It perked up after I watered it. I will do the watering every 2 days instead of 3. The soil drains well into a saucer. The plant is still green and getting very slightly bigger. No sign of a 2nd node, though. I will just keep ig going and see what happens. I the mean time I have several dozen bag seeds left, and will germinate some more.

great start boistone! that yellow on the first set is normal, the rest looks good. you are using your brain, is it still in the dixie cup? watering should be only when needed, not on a set schedule like every few days unless the soil is dry, and watering also depends on way of growing too, so play it by feel until that seedling starts to really shoot up.
cudo`s on using bagseed for your first grow.

Well I'm a gardener to an extent when it comes to outdoor things in Zone 9 hardiness. This indoor thing is new to me. I will say Zone 9, close to Mexico -- $20 a half all day!!! Seeds are easy to come by.

Anywayz, the plant is still slowly growing with the 2 leaves. Has a bit of an odor when the lights are on. The 2 leaves are now separating so hopefully another node will come out of it.

No, this isn't in a dixie cup anymore. It's in a pot about 6 inches wide and 9 inches tall. I want to eventually LST this before transplanting into a big pot. I've done some research here for sure. :rastasmoke:

I don't want to chance 1 plant being male so I got some peat pots and germination starter kits and will see if I can get some more. These seeds are truly duds, but I have plenty to try. I'll be happy with 1 female and 15g dry yield.

This is the 12th day since breaking ground. Looking at nearly 2.5 inches across and 1.5" short. Leaves are looking better now - I think that smaller one is just weird shaped. The leaves are getting their own stems now, which is why they're separating. And there's a little green dot between them. 2nd node in the works perhaps? Let's hope so.......:D

Seems to me this is just a very slow grower right now.

Give it a month or so man and dont mess with it to much. Feed it nuets every other watering and water and leave it alone. It will Blow up like a big pair or titties. Peace bro.

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Give it a month or so man and dont mess with it to much. Feed it nuets every other watering and water and leave it alone. It will Blow up like a big pair or titties. Peace bro.

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Nutes? I already have 0.21-0.07-0.14 pre-nute soil. I'm sure with the watering comes a little flushing. What mix would you recommend using?

dont use nutes until its got 3 or 4 nodes on it.

in all my grows, the plants have died or suffered because i was too loving (overwater, overnute, etc)

your better off getting a smaller harvest for too little fertilizer than risking the plants just trying to magically add ounces to each plant. better to let them show you what they need then for you to overdue it

deficiencies are easy to fix. burns arnt.

Can you tell me anything about the nutes I have now? These are some things lying around the house. Is any of this suitable for any phase of growth?

The first one, 19-13-6 are granules you can mix with water. Advertised as a flowering nute.

The second one, 10-60-10 is a bluish powder, advertised as a bloom-plus nute.

The third one, 5-20-10 is a liquid advertised as a root stimulator. This has kinda solidified around the rim of the bottle so not sure if I even want to chance this.

EDIT: But I just found a brand new 5-10-5 bottle of ''root starter'' I can trust.

So can I use any of this stuff someday? Any info would be great!!!

ive always heard you should use high Nitrogen (the first number) for weed and also you should keep the soil moist but dont overwater i personanly use a spray bottle to prevent this :rastasmoke:

Boistone. Im going to give u my 2 cents, thats all.

First of all ur sprout looks like it is completely stunted (growth wise). Your "day 12" picture looks exactly like your first picture, which means it hasnt done too much in 12 days. Marijuana can be vegetated into a nice sized bush, and ready to flower in 30 days. Ur at 12 and have a sprout.

Never ever give a plant any nutrients in the first 2 weeks of its life. By nutrients i mean things with NPK's, which are the set of 3 numbers, ie - 10-50-20, these NPK ferts. include your "root started" nutes... NO NUTES FOR 2 WEEKS. U should only be using Ph balanced water at around 6.5 for those first 2 weeks, maybee a drop of superthrive for the developing root system.

If i were u i would find a couple more seeds and start a new batch

And dont dorwn them, after they pop out of the dirt u should water them for at least 3 days. Sprouts can drown very easily. What i do is pop the seeds in paper towel, then put the pop'd seeds into pre wet soil in party cups. Dont plant them in soggy soil, just some nice damp soil, this will allow enough moisture for the pop'd seeds to sprout and start to veg for a couple of days. If u really think they need moisture mist them a lil bit w/ Ph'd water.

These plants are exactly 12 days old from a recent grow

Is it me or does anyone else think perhaps the problem is he transplanted a seedling, at six days old?? That to me sounds way too early. I personally don't really like to transplant until it's beginning to become rootbound.

I think it's stunted as well. No secret there. It's been 15 days now and it still looks like a big-ass 2 leaf sprout. It's over 2.5 inches across now. No height change, only a little in width every day. No sign of a 2nd node anywhere to be found. Embryonic leaves still haven't fallen off. Still looking super green, though, so I'm going to continue trying it. I never used nutes on this BTW.

The dixie cup was only about 2 inches across, 3 inches tall. Really small paper cup. When I transplanted, I cut the cup down the side and pulled the dirt out in one piece, then planted into a bigger pot. You could see the roots everywhere, and some stuck to the side of the cup. One thing I did, though, was water that little sprout 1 or 2 times a day. Oops.

Good news is, 2 sprouts have germinated in my little peat ball & plastic greenhouse thing and are going to be planted into a 6" pot immediately. I have 0.05-0.04-0.03 StaGreen soil. How soon can I put these little ones a couple inches from the light? The stunted one was 2 inches from the light since it broke ground.

Nice start!!

I have been reading the forums here for a couple of months while I have been setting up my own closet grow..However, I just became a member, and I cannot figure out how to start a new post...I would love to post some pics and get some advice from the veterans here, and I dont want to try to hijack someone else's thread....can someone plz point out what I am missing...I have some good plants going and I would love to post some pics and get some tips!!:thumbsup:

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Is it me or does anyone else think perhaps the problem is he transplanted a seedling, at six days old?? That to me sounds way too early. I personally don't really like to transplant until it's beginning to become rootbound.

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My last grow i transplnted the sprouts from party cups to 2 gal. pot only 1 week after the ybroke ground, so i dont think that is it.

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I think it's stunted as well. No secret there. It's been 15 days now and it still looks like a big-ass 2 leaf sprout. It's over 2.5 inches across now. No height change, only a little in width every day. No sign of a 2nd node anywhere to be found. Embryonic leaves still haven't fallen off. Still looking super green, though, so I'm going to continue trying it. I never used nutes on this BTW.

The dixie cup was only about 2 inches across, 3 inches tall. Really small paper cup. When I transplanted, I cut the cup down the side and pulled the dirt out in one piece, then planted into a bigger pot. You could see the roots everywhere, and some stuck to the side of the cup. One thing I did, though, was water that little sprout 1 or 2 times a day. Oops.

Good news is, 2 sprouts have germinated in my little peat ball & plastic greenhouse thing and are going to be planted into a 6" pot immediately. I have 0.05-0.04-0.03 StaGreen soil. How soon can I put these little ones a couple inches from the light? The stunted one was 2 inches from the light since it broke ground.

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Hmmmmm, that cup u r describing sounds VERY small, BUT i have seen clones in pieces of rockwool, so i dont think its the size of ur cup, sprouts being that small and all.

Biostone u r using Ph balanced water when u water that thing right??

If u r using Ph'd water the only thing i can think of is u watered it too much early on and now its suffering.... BUT, i am no expert, just an observationist who has been dabbling for a little while.

I leave my sprouts about 2-3 feet under a 65w CFL for a couple days, then when i feel its time i put the MH on em at the same height and lower slowly to see how they adjust.

No I wasn't using pH balanced water but I was letting a cup of tap water sit in my grow box to air out for a couple days before I used it. So anyway, the other plant is stunted, and the leaves are starting to get brown splotches. At 16 days it hasn't gotten its second node yet, so I feel it's pretty much a lost cause and I give up on that one.

Like I said, I have 2 new sprouts. I'm going to seal this thread off and start this one:

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...w-part-ii.html