Kinda messed up....BUT

I was with my girlfriend today, and we decided to walk down to the little...store area (thats still too nice of a description, it doesnt even really count as a market either.) and along the way (not even off of her street yet) some little kids (6th graders maybe) start shouting stuff at us out of their (second story) window. They were saying things to my girlfriend like "you can do better than him, that white-boy cant handle you..etc.." and then stuff at me like they were trying to start a fight or something like "yeah, keep walking white boy, you cracker...etc..". At first we ignored them, (although i was getting really pissed off) until we got to the corner and i had had enough of it...so we stood at the corner for a minutes, getting really mad and deciding what to do, when my girlfriend is like "lets just go up to the house". So we start heading over there, and the kids are still going at it, although one of them runs when we get up to the driveway. She went up to the door...their dad answered, and she told him bout it. He apologized and whatnot, and yelled at the kids. But i guess we got back at them because as we were going down the driveway we could hear them getting their asses whipped..

Sorry for being long-winded and having so many run-ons and parenthesis....im pretty high right now

fucking kids :rolleyes:

Maybe if their Dad taught them some manners, rather than "whipping their arses", they wouldn't be such delinquent little fuckers.

They sound jealous, racist and pathetic.

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

Maybe if their Dad taught them some manners, rather than "whipping their arses", they wouldn't be such delinquent little fuckers.

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No no. They deserve real punishment. If they associate bad behaviour with unbearable pain they wont do it. And no, it's not about keeping the children in fear. But they need to know what is right and what is wrong, and if they do wrong, they pay the price.

I cant stand racism - especially from little children like that who probably dont know the half of it - so in that case they deserve a good beating. They were wrong, they got punished.

And concidering the father bothered telling them off, im sure he cares, and was disappointed which would cause me to beleive that he has taught them manners.

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Originally Posted by LIP

No no. They deserve real punishment. If they associate bad behaviour with unbearable pain they wont do it. And no, it's not about keeping the children in fear. But they need to know what is right and what is wrong, and if they do wrong, they pay the price.

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That's laughable. Just thought I would remind you, this is the 21st Century pal.

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

That's laughable. Just thought I would remind you, this is the 21st Century pal.

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I tend to agree with you there.

Stupid kids.

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

That's laughable. Just thought I would remind you, this is the 21st Century pal.

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Im suprised his father even did anything at all, most parents these days let their bastard children run amock...

Yeah, when you have a really bad 5 year old that keeps running out in the road to get his ball, make sure you tell him "no timmy, no! thats bad, dont do that timmy".......and little timmy laughs at you and does what he wants and gets crushed by a semi. I dont think it matters what century this is. Those evil children sound like a lecture would set them straight......dude, they probably kill animals for fun, steel, and whip their dicks out at little girls on the bus.......they need the shit beat out of them.

I'm surprised the father did that, too, and it's sorta refreshing to see that he intervened in the situation. I agree that there are an awful lot of parents around who'd have let that go by without a thought. I'm not a supporter of kid-beating, but parents discipline in different ways. I hope his method alters their future behavior and doesn't cause them lasting physical harm. My belief is that too much of that just teaches them to be future kid-beaters and combatants themselves and sidesteps the whole issue of teaching them courtesy and respect for others.

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Originally Posted by Diary of a Madman

Im suprised his father even did anything at all, most parents these days let their bastard children run amock...

Yeah, when you have a really bad 5 year old that keeps running out in the road to get his ball, make sure you tell him "no timmy, no! thats bad, dont do that timmy".......and little timmy laughs at you and does what he wants and gets crushed by a semi. I dont think it matters what century this is. Those evil children sound like a lecture would set them straight......dude, they probably kill animals for fun, steel, and whip their dicks out at little girls on the bus.......they need the shit beat out of them.

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Think "Darwin"

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

I'm surprised the father did that, too, and it's sorta refreshing to see that he intervened in the situation. I agree that there are an awful lot of parents around who'd have let that go by without a thought. I'm not a supporter of kid-beating, but parents discipline in different ways. I hope his method alters their future behavior and doesn't cause them lasting physical harm. My belief is that too much of that just teaches them to be future kid-beaters and combatants themselves and sidesteps the whole issue of teaching them courtesy and respect for others.

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When I was growing up, I got my ass torn up quite regularly... I figured I turned out ok. I pretty much learned a lot of lessons the hard way. I don't have a problem with kids getting their asses torn up when they do something that they KNOW is wrong, I would not have a problem with the PARENTS getting their asses torn up for letting a bunch of little hellions doing what they want with out the proper reinforcement...both good and bad.
Its NOT the schools job to raise children, nor are the schools a babysitting service. Its the parents job to raise and teach the kids right from wrong. Its the schools job to teach the kids reading, writing, and arithmetic.

Thats hilarious,you really got them good.

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Originally Posted by DAY-DREAMER-MAN

fucking kids :rolleyes:

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That's all that needed to be said man +rep :S2:

Lol, thanks for the responses :thumbsup:. well, its not like we heard them being thrashed around omg those kids are being beaten half to death, we just heard their dad yelling at them like "WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO BE BOTHERING THEM BLAH BLAH BLAH" *extraordinarily loud smacks, followed by louder crying*

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

That's laughable. Just thought I would remind you, this is the 21st Century pal.

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Your still a child yourself, pal. Remember that. You havnt got a clue, period. Are you just bitter because you got smacked around as a kid. Well i did and it didnt change me. I knew what was right and wrong and if i did wrong i expected a good beating.

yeah like i see mother walking down the street with fucking 5year olds throwing a wobbly screaming its eyes out and TRYING TO HIT HIS MOTHER .....AT 5!!!

and what does the mum do?? ..."oh im sorry barnaby but we must go .com along darling please be good for mommy"


for fucks sake lady get a fucking backbone,. dont apologise to your fucking brat of a son because hes hitting you....what happens in 15 years when your too weak to stop him?

whats witht his bolox about not smacking yur kids?

beleive me my kids r gonna get smacked wether the government beleves it right or wrong, they step out of line and its the double wedged slipper heel for em, im not a mean bastard but kids need boundaries, and above know when to shut the fuck up.

ive seen these dumb fuck yuppie mums walking down the road witht heir kids physicaly hitting and kicking them yet they do nothing..... if my child ever even looked liek he was gonna strike his mother would definatly feel the force,.

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Originally Posted by chisme

yeah like i see mother walking down the street with fucking 5year olds throwing a wobbly screaming its eyes out and TRYING TO HIT HIS MOTHER .....AT 5!!!

and what does the mum do?? ..."oh im sorry barnaby but we must go .com along darling please be good for mommy"


for fucks sake lady get a fucking backbone,. dont apologise to your fucking brat of a son because hes hitting you....what happens in 15 years when your too weak to stop him?

whats witht his bolox about not smacking yur kids?

beleive me my kids r gonna get smacked wether the government beleves it right or wrong, they step out of line and its the double wedged slipper heel for em, im not a mean bastard but kids need boundaries, and above know when to shut the fuck up.

ive seen these dumb fuck yuppie mums walking down the road witht heir kids physicaly hitting and kicking them yet they do nothing..... if my child ever even looked liek he was gonna strike his mother would definatly feel the force,.

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Too damn fucking right! :rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

That's laughable. Just thought I would remind you, this is the 21st Century pal.

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ok your right not many parents dicipline their children but lips just saying what he beleives is children wouldnt do bad things if when they did theyre parents disiplined them......but they dont so yes you are right.

but i stand firm on lips argument its true i did bad things as a child....then my father would kick the shit out of me..........ill tell you what i never did that bad thing again,.

lesson learnt.

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Originally Posted by LIP

Your still a child yourself, pal. Remember that. You havnt got a clue, period. Are you just bitter because you got smacked around as a kid. Well i did and it didnt change me. I knew what was right and wrong and if i did wrong i expected a good beating.

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Your claims that I got "smacked around as a kid" are totally unjust, uncalled for and potentially offensive to people who really did get beaten as children. You also say to me "your still a child yourself" but I'm not the one coming up with posts like yours, thankfully. You maybe an adult by age, but by attitude your still very much under developed and I certainly pity you for that.
I never got psychically disciplined as a child. My parents thankfully had alittle more common sense and taught me what I did wrong with words, rather than unnecessary pain.

no kid deserves to get beaten for something so stupid as that. ADULTS SHOULD understand that the KID is young and likes to fuck around. THE MATURE ADULT WOULD LET THAT GO!

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

Your claims that I got "smacked around as a kid" are totally unjust, uncalled for and potentially offensive to people who really did get beaten as children. You also say to me "your still a child yourself" but I'm not the one coming up with posts like yours, thankfully. You maybe an adult by age, but by attitude your still very much under developed and I certainly pity you for that.
I never got psychically disciplined as a child. My parents thankfully had alittle more common sense and taught me what I did wrong with words, rather than unnecessary pain.

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Cant you take what i say with a pinch of salt? Well i hope it doesnt offend anyone else - it was only meant to offend you.
And I got beaten when i was a child - if someone said it to me i wouldnt be offended.

Your opinion is yours, but you cant tell me im wrong, because an opinion is never wrong. It's a personal thought.

I'm certainly not underdeveloped because i beleive in REAL punishment. Theres a BIG differnence between discipline and hitting children for no good reason.

I wouldnt expect you to understand though, because as i said, your still a child, physically and mentally. You might be knowledageable in some areas, but you've got no real experience of life. I mean, have you even got a full time job?

Kids today lack manners, respect for their elders and authority, when I was a kid if my old man caught me shouting at an adult in the street I would have got a good hiding, nowaday kids know that if anyone including their parents lay a finger on them then they can take them to court for assault.
I am all in favor of bringing back the right to give them a good hiding and bring back corporal punishment in school, it never did me any harm.

Cheers

NCM

I got my ass beat all the time when I was a kid, and I deserved it. When I was really little, I know telling me I was gonna be in trouble wouldn't do anything, telling me I was wrong and explaining it didn't work, I was a little brat who wasn't to be reasoned with. Now if the belt was brought out, or dad got a broom handle, then I would know when I crossed the line. I turned out okay and know not to set people off. So I'm in full support of a bit of physical punishment, because sometimes it's the only thing that will make someone understand. Nothing speaks louder than pain. :jointsmile:

IMO, kids should get the shit beat out of them if they do shit like that. First of all that was just plain rude and even at that age I knew that not to do that kind of shit. Theres a difference in being stupid running around when your little (sneaking out, ect.) and being racist and rude. Those kids deserved what was coming to them. Any parents who lets there kids run all over them or lets their kids run all over somebody else probably needed better parenting themselves.

The way i see it - those kids get beat, and learn a lesson or they do it to someone else and get their faces blown apart or hands chopped off. Because that kinda thing might piss someone off. It'd certainly piss me off. It's for their own good.

ahahah lol, pay backs a bitch.

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

I never got psychically disciplined as a child. My parents thankfully had alittle more common sense and taught me what I did wrong with words, rather than unnecessary pain.

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no offence you sound just liek the lady in my post above,,,,EXPLAIN TO THE CHIL WITH WORDS ? og for fucks sake friend what time and age are you living in? kids dont give a shit about why you think they cant do this or that kids want to do what kids want to do,

my sisters two boys for instance,

she yell and yell at em to get theyre shoes on so they can go home,

the kids sit there blatantly blanking their mother and continue playing,

i (standing on the stairs) see this instantly walk over grab each kid by the back of their shirts,

ME: OI DONT YOU HEAR WHAT YOUR MOTHER JUST SAID OR ARE YOUR DEAF?

KIDS "YEAH" BUT I WANAN PLAY WITH THIS..ROBO....

ME "NO YOU GET UP NOW (LIFTING THEM BY SHIRTS) AND YOU WILL DO AS YOU MUM TELLS YOU!

I DROP BOTH KIDS IN THE DOUBLE BUGGY AND STRAP EM IN...............INSTANTLY THE 2 KIDS ARE TRYING TO UNSTRAP THEMSELVES


now do you think the kids will listen u come with that bullshit "oh cmon honey please we need to do this"????

no the kids will continue to try and get out,

now instead of the weak n soft approach i outright shouted this at em.

"MIKE, ALFY, YOU BOTH BETTER SHUT UP NOW AND SIT IN YUR BUGGY OR IM GOIN TO GIVE YOU SUCH A SMACK BOYS!


.....theyve felt me smack em one made the error of kicking his mum in the mouth as she was strapping them in once, maaate did he never do that again,




you give a child a reason he/she cant do things he/she will sit there weighing up what youve said to there own instict of just doin what they want,

you inforce your rules properly there less likly to be broken

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Originally Posted by chisme

no offence you sound just liek the lady in my post above,,,,EXPLAIN TO THE CHIL WITH WORDS ? og for fucks sake friend what time and age are you living in? kids dont give a shit about why you think they cant do this or that kids want to do what kids want to do,

my sisters two boys for instance,

she yell and yell at em to get theyre shoes on so they can go home,

the kids sit there blatantly blanking their mother and continue playing,

i (standing on the stairs) see this instantly walk over grab each kid by the back of their shirts,

ME: OI DONT YOU HEAR WHAT YOUR MOTHER JUST SAID OR ARE YOUR DEAF?

KIDS "YEAH" BUT I WANAN PLAY WITH THIS..ROBO....

ME "NO YOU GET UP NOW (LIFTING THEM BY SHIRTS) AND YOU WILL DO AS YOU MUM TELLS YOU!

I DROP BOTH KIDS IN THE DOUBLE BUGGY AND STRAP EM IN...............INSTANTLY THE 2 KIDS ARE TRYING TO UNSTRAP THEMSELVES


now do you think the kids will listen u come with that bullshit "oh cmon honey please we need to do this"????

no the kids will continue to try and get out,

now instead of the weak n soft approach i outright shouted this at em.

"MIKE, ALFY, YOU BOTH BETTER SHUT UP NOW AND SIT IN YUR BUGGY OR IM GOIN TO GIVE YOU SUCH A SMACK BOYS!


.....theyve felt me smack em one made the error of kicking his mum in the mouth as she was strapping them in once, maaate did he never do that again,




you give a child a reason he/she cant do things he/she will sit there weighing up what youve said to there own instict of just doin what they want,

you inforce your rules properly there less likly to be broken

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SPOT ON! It's not cruel, it's not wrong. It's called bringing up a child. They learn things the right way and they turn out as better people.


So, goodluck weedyboy - you'll need it when it comes to you having offspring of your own. If that ever happens.

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Originally Posted by dominionxp

no kid deserves to get beaten for something so stupid as that. ADULTS SHOULD understand that the KID is young and likes to fuck around. THE MATURE ADULT WOULD LET THAT GO!

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what to point where your kids are running around telling strangers to fuck off , let them off so next time they do run in the road and get knocked over? A MATURE ADULT WOULD KNOW SMACKING A CHILD ISNT FOR SELF PLEASURE!!!


jesus christ do u think id smack my child because i like hitting younger weaker persons then myself? NO ffs
your child thinks it can do what it wants without any kind of punishment it will do that ANYTHING IT WANTS!!

funyn thing is you know them kids u see on tv really young ones throwing bricks at police cars and writting graffitti everywhere.......normaly you find theyre parents dont smack.....funny that innit



wot im trying to get accross here is if you tell a child not to do something,,.,.next time he/she will think parent said no but i really wanan do it.....ill just do it whats mum/dad gonna do ? shout at me? oooooooo

now if that parent smacked his kids when they did wrong the child would think.....mum/dad said no......if i do it they smack me.......ok im not gonna do it.


its simple. i learned it from experience, im not offended by anyone saying they were disiplined as a child !! well done to theyr parents for caring enoutgh. mine sure did. and i thank them for it

I think you miss understood what I said chisme. I didn't get physically disciplined as a kid, meaning my parents didn't use pain to teach me a lesson. If I was being alittle bastard of course I was sorted out and put in line, for example if I wasn't putting my shoes on when told I would be forced over there and be made to put them on, that doesn't involve pain and being hit about.
If we look back at the original topic, my first post was simply stating that if these kids had been brought up to have any respect for anyone, they wouldn't be shouting racist remarks out the window and be generally little fuckers.
I never really said much else, apart from laugh at LIP.

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Originally Posted by LIP

No no. They deserve real punishment. If they associate bad behaviour with unbearable pain they wont do it. And no, it's not about keeping the children in fear. But they need to know what is right and what is wrong, and if they do wrong, they pay the price.

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ok fair enoutgh for me,

but seriously sum kids are fucking imagine trying to force your kid to put his shoes and while you do that he/she is trying to smack you in the face shoutng abuse.......surely then u agree a smacking is in order.

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Originally Posted by chisme

ok fair enoutgh for me,

but seriously sum kids are fucking imagine trying to force your kid to put his shoes and while you do that he/she is trying to smack you in the face shoutng abuse.......surely then u agree a smacking is in order.

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Maybe, but the whole point is laying down the foundation so children don't act like that. Of course kids will be kids and go absolutely mental and rage at you at times, but you don't have to deal with it by hitting them and surely less if they have been brought up not to behave irrationally to get their own way.
I would push to say I would agree that a "smack" not "smacking" is potentially in order, depending on the situation. I think you could portray your anger and show them your very :mad:, rather than releasing it upon them.

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Originally Posted by WeedyBoyWonder

Maybe, but the whole point is laying down the foundation so children don't act like that. Of course kids will be kids and go absolutely mental and rage at you at times, but you don't have to deal with it by hitting them and surely less if they have been brought up not to behave irrationally to get their own way.
I would push to say I would agree that a "smack" not "smacking" is potentially in order, depending on the situation. I think you could portray your anger and show them your very :mad:, rather than releasing it upon them.

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true very true, but i am refering to after all this....explaining to the child ...reaosning with the child.........after all that might work might not work phycology(sp?) at the end of the day the kid does something bad he/she gets a smack....he/she wouldnt do it again would they?:D

SO, at the end of ALL of this, we've come to the conclusion that SOMETIMES, a little smack is the RIGHT thing to do, yes?

Good.

Most of my friends now have children, and my brother has three and another on the way. I've watched how different people handle disciplining their children and have to say the majority who try the "time out/ talking" method have children who are out of control. I think the whole "time out" thing has the potential to work, but isn't properly understood or implemented by many parents. I think the main element they are lacking is actually consistency and the will to follow their words with the appropriate action. The few parents I know, who will spank a child that is out of line, have well behaved children that don't act out very often. My parents believed in and used corporeal punishment to discipline my brother and I. I don't think it did me any harm, and I learned quickly with this method. Neither of my parents had to lay a hand on me by the time I was ten. They would just tell me I was out of line and I'd stop whatever I was doing.

When I was a kid I would WAY rather get hit a few times when I did something wrong. It usually come from doing something equally bad, like hitting my little brother in the face with a 2x4. If my parents didn't hit me for that, it was being grounded, which meant being locked in a room all day by myself. If I broke things from being mad, I stayed in longer. When I was REALLLLLLY bad, they locked me in the little toilet cubby room. Oh man did I deserve it though, I was such a bastard when I was little.

Weedyboy...i think all that Lip and Chisme are trying to say is that there is a BIG difference between discipline when your kid is being out of line, and physical abuse.