Ron Paul excluded from Fox News Debate

December 28, 2007 10:39 pm EST

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA â?? According to the New Hampshire State Republican Party and an Associated Press report, Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul will be excluded from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008.

â??Given Ron Paulâ??s support in New Hampshire and his recent historic fundraising success, it is outrageous that Dr. Paul would be excluded,â?� said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. â??Dr. Paul has consistently polled higher in New Hampshire than some of the other candidates who have been invited.â?�

Snyder continued, â??Paul supporters should know that we are continuing to make inquiries with Fox News as to why they have apparently excluded Dr. Paul from this event.â?�

Has Fox News Excluded Ron Paul? — Ron Paul 2008

Fuck them how dare they attempt to censor Paul. This will give him even more support imo.

Who's the enemy now? :mad:

Fox shouldn't be excluding Paul at this point...Not ready to pick up the guns? Well, here's the next best thing; Fox's email/mail addresses:

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There is a media blackout on this story. I suggest calling and emailing Fox News, and also the New Hampshire Republican Party if you believe Ron Paul should be included in the debate on January sixth.

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Originally Posted by angry nomad

There is a media blackout on this story. I suggest calling and emailing Fox News, and also the New Hampshire Republican Party if you believe Ron Paul should be included in the debate on January sixth.

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Good idea.

I am not Ron Paul supporter, though I do respect the free exchange of ideas. However, as a private actor, Fox can exclude whoever they want. I have a hard time calling this censorship, as this is not done by the state. (Most definitions of censoring imply actions by a government.)

Fox News does have some fascist tendencies though. I can see why they would exclude Paul.

There is no excuse for this, he is the most popular candidate. This is basically an assault and insult to the people.

There is a difference between conservative and neo-conservative. The party is controlled by the latter, which means the crazy right wing (stone teh gays! marijuana kills 15/15 smokers!) has the support of the lemmings (Fox, Churches, ect.). This means anyone that disagrees with their narrow minded ideals, even if they are a member of the party, is denied any chance to prove themselves wrong.

Free speech doesn't really work with a biased news source. Ron Paul doesn't have a chance to win when his own party is screwing him over because of his 'crazy' traditional conservative ideals.

edit: Oh, funny thing I noticed. Isn't Fred Thompson being included when he only is polling like 3.6% while RP is polling 5-6%?

Whats up with that Fox?

YouTube - Ron Paul Excluded from Jan. 6th R Candidate Forum

YouTube - Fox news has excluded Ron Paul from the New Hampshire debate

****Note mistake on the date. The forum (debate) is to take place on Jan 6 2008!

Please view this video in full screen!

Post these on every forum on the internet!

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Originally Posted by xlz916

Good idea.

I am not Ron Paul supporter, though I do respect the free exchange of ideas. However, as a private actor, Fox can exclude whoever they want. I have a hard time calling this censorship, as this is not done by the state. (Most definitions of censoring imply actions by a government.)

Fox News does have some fascist tendencies though. I can see why they would exclude Paul.

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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -
cen·sor·ship n
â??noun
1. the act or practice of censoring.
2. the office or power of a censor.
3. the time during which a censor holds office.
4. the inhibiting and distorting activity of the Freudian censor.
[Origin: 1585â??95; censor + -ship]

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American Heritage Dictionary -
cen·sor·ship (sěn'sər-shĭp')
n.

1. The act, process, or practice of censoring.
2. The office or authority of a Roman censor.
3. Psychology Prevention of disturbing or painful thoughts or feelings from reaching consciousness except in a disguised form.


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WordNet -
censorship

noun
1. counterintelligence achieved by banning or deleting any information of value to the enemy [syn: censoring]
2. deleting parts of publications or correspondence or theatrical performances [syn: censoring]

I did not call it censorship, but it is.

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Originally Posted by xlz916

However, as a private actor, Fox can exclude whoever they want.

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And if Fox wants to sign their death wish by blatantly proving they are NOT a news organization but merely an entertainment channel, I say go right ahead and prove once and for all this is not a reputable news channel and they are certainly not fair and balanced.

For the most part I avoid Fox "news", so I'm a bit excited to see all the flack they are going to take for trying to control democracy. It's about time people wake up and stop watching garbage like that.

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Originally Posted by Nailhead

And if Fox wants to sign their death wish by blatantly proving they are NOT a news organization but merely an entertainment channel, I say go right ahead and prove once and for all this is not a reputable news channel and they are certainly not fair and balanced.

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Dude, they have never been a reputable news channel. They are a purely entertainment channel. They are brain candy for unthinking right wingers, and that is not likely to change -- they have never been any different. They are raking in the money.

Sad truth: there is a HUGE market for their brand of brainless, howling at the moon propaganda. Excluding RP will not hurt them in the least. If fact, RP would piss off most of their viewers. This is probably the main reason they are excluding him (a close second being they have major ideological issues with him).

Angry Nomad:

You cannot just list a definition which does not support your argument and all and say it does.

The epistemological origins of the word censor imply government involvement (going back to Roman times).

Thank You for the heads up and to Anger Nomad for saving me the hassle of having to find everyones' emails associated with Fox News. Today I will be writing an email and sending it to each and every one of those contacts.

Ron Paul for Hope, for change; Unfuck America 2008

I am pretty sure I remember Ron Paul doing pretty well in the online Fox News polls. Very interesting.

Also, as another poster pointed out, RP is doing better than Fred Thompson in NH! Yeah, I think you RP guys have a pretty legit beef on this one.

'Go anyway!'

Ron Paul is an irrelevant fruitcake, that's why he isn't invited ... :smokin:

Marty Ryan -- Fox News Channel
Title: Executive Producer - Political Coverage
In charge of Fox Presidential Debate
E-mail: [email protected]
Phone: (202) 824-6403

Thats the guy you need to be getting a hold of

Fox is a private organization and have the right to do s, especially when he is almost a polar opposite of giuliani, whom Fox News greatly supports

i was once a supporter of Ron Paul, but i have awaken from my slumber and see that Ron has ZERO chance of getting even 5% in the polls.

this saddens me to say, especially when he is the best out of all most if not all the other republican candidates.

if Morons like Romney and Giuliani, whose own children arent speaking to, are the best the republican party can do.... then that is a great shame and they have to reevaluate what they stand for, and who should represent them hence fort

The media has successfully portrayed Ron Paul as a Crazy Old Man , which is disappointing

By the By, I now support Obama, as i did b4 i discovered Ron Paul

and hilary scares me as beng someone who will do whatever it takes to win, just like Giulliani, Romney and the rest,
:hippy:

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By the By, I now support Obama, as i did b4 i discovered Ron Paul

and hilary scares me as beng someone who will do whatever it takes to win, just like Giulliani, Romney and the rest,
:hippy:

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I agree with just about everything you said in both your posts. I will probably end up voting for Barrack Obama in the presidential election because Dr. Paul will more than likely not be on the ballot. However, I will do everything in my power to help Dr. Paul get the republican nomination.

But yes, I agree Obama is my 2nd canidate of choice although its looking unlikely that he will get the democrat nomination either.

We could be looking at a 3rd Clinton administration. Not that it would be awful, anything is better than allowing another of the Republicans to get into the White House.

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Originally Posted by AZExplorer

I agree with just about everything you said in both your posts. I will probably end up voting for Barrack Obama in the presidential election because Dr. Paul will more than likely not be on the ballot. However, I will do everything in my power to help Dr. Paul get the republican nomination.

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do everything in your power to help him get the nomination but you ARENT going to vote for him??? that! is the speaking of an idiot.

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Originally Posted by bestbet

i was once a supporter of Ron Paul, but i have awaken from my slumber and see that Ron has ZERO chance of getting even 5% in the polls.

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So you vote based on how other people vote, how pathetic, why even vote at all?

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do everything in your power to help him get the nomination but you ARENT going to vote for him??? that! is the speaking of an idiot.

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Maybe you should understand American politics before calling someone an idiot.

Let me explain. We have Primary elections, where each party (democrat, republican, ect) will use to determine their canidate. Each party only picks 1 canidate to represent it. Therefore Ron Paul has next to no chance to actually appearing on the final Presidential ballot. Unless he changes his party and runs as an independent.

Yes, I will be voting for Ron Paul in my states Primary election. However unless he is on the final Presidential ballot in November, I will be voting for Barrack Obama, if Obama doesnt get the Democrat nomination, then I will not be voting for anyone at this time. I havent gone as far to pick a 3rd canidate.

But thanks for calling me an idiot because you have no understanding of the subject matter.

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Originally Posted by bestbet

i was once a supporter of Ron Paul, but i have awaken from my slumber and see that Ron has ZERO chance of getting even 5% in the polls.

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That's foolish of you.

This is not true. This event does not exist. You Decide 08! Scroll down to "Candidate Calender" and you will see there is no debate scheduled. This was canceled 3 weeks ago. I'll be outside sign waving during the ABC debate on the 5th in NH.

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Originally Posted by Zimzum

This is not true. This event does not exist. You Decide 08! Scroll down to "Candidate Calender" and you will see there is no debate scheduled. This was canceled 3 weeks ago. I'll be outside sign waving during the ABC debate on the 5th in NH.

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A TRUE Ron Paul supporter.....thanks for keeping it real!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

GOP candidates to meet at NH forum

Thu Dec 27, 5:42 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The New Hampshire Republican Party is sponsoring a forum for Republican presidential candidates on Jan. 6, two days before the state's first-in-the-nation primary.

The forum, where the candidates will be questioned by Fox New Channel's Chris Wallace, will be held a day after ABC holds back to back Democratic and Republican presidential debates.

"Never underestimate New Hampshire voters' appetite for politics," said Fergus Cullen, the chairman of the state Republican Party.

Participating in the forum will be Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson.

Unlike a debate, the candidates will face questions from Wallace around a table in a studio on the campus of St. Anselm College in Goffstown, N.H.. The 90-minute encounter will air live beginning at 8 p.m. ET on the Fox News Channel and on Fox News Radio.

GOP candidates to meet at NH forum - Yahoo! News


Ron Paul NOT excluded from Fox debate
Some sloppy reporting, instant web indignation, and holiday vacations produced a surge of hysteria that might have been avoided.by William Westmiller
(Libertarian)

One of the hazards of instant mass communication is that incorrect stories can get distributed immediately. A particular hazard during holiday vacations.

There is NO NH DEBATE on January 6th. Ron Paul was NOT EXCLUDED. That event was canceled three weeks ago. [See Update7]

Ron WILL participate in the January 5th ABC/WMUR GOP debate in New Hampshire.

So, what happened?

Months ago, NH GOP chairman Fergus Cullen had been in touch with FoxNews about a possible forum on January 6th. He had even contacted all the GOP candidates to see whether they were available. However, plans for the ABC debate were finalized with all candidates early in December and Cullen "threw in the towel." See "OUTFOXED" in the NH Union Leader of December 16th.

At that time, Cullen had not received a response from Ron Paul, who had committed to a conflicting luncheon at the NH Liberty Forum at the same time.

Skip ahead to December 27th, when the Union Leader reported that all candidates had agreed to the ABC/WMUR debate and reporter Garry Rayno added a confusing paragraph about Giuliani finally agreeing to the (canceled) January 6th forum, which had already been converted into a simple state GOP brunch.

Due to the timing of this article, there was no way to confirm who will or won't attend the brunch, but it is not a broadcast debate and has nothing to do with FoxNews. Nevertheless, a blog in Washington picked up the story, scrambled it and their "BHDC Staff" reported a list of the candidates who would be attending, which did not include Ron Paul (he hadn't officially confirmed, due to the conflict).

That story was picked up by the AP Newswire, which added some information that it had from a month earlier about the format being discussed.

Finally, the AP article was picked up by Lew Rockwell and passed along to DailyPaul.com, with all the errors intact. Of course, a firestorm ensued on all the Ron Paul nets before the information could be verified. Immediately, thousands of messages went to FoxNews and the NH GOP protesting the exclusion.

Unfortunately, the Ron Paul campaign didn't sort out the facts before sending out a news release blasting Fox for their "outrageous" conduct, even if they did note that the information had not been confirmed. From there, the report spread into dozens of blogs and news commentaries.

An unfortunate false alarm. Lesson: Fast news is sometimes "bad" news. Faux News is worthy of criticism for what they have done, not for what they haven't done. Look before you leap.

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Update1: Not all MSM is bad. For some favorable coverage of Ron Paul, see my "Media Ears" articles: ABC, Newsweek, PBS & Cable 47

Update2: The New Hampshire GOP website makes no mention of any events on January 6th, but it does promote the NH Liberty Forum scheduled for January 5th, where Ron Paul will be speaking. I'm informed that the campaign was working with Forum sponsors and Cullen to accommodate any possible NHGOP event.
Fox News does mention the January 5th ABC debate on their schedule, but nothing in New Hampshire on January 6th.
There does appear to be some residual confusion about the GOPNH brunch on the 6th, which may occur, where some candidates may attend, and which Fox may cover as a news item, but it certainly isn't a live, broadcast debate or forum. [See Update7]

Update3: If you believe there is an error in my report, please provide a link. The story from the Big Head DC blog, linked in the article, may be a satirical fabrication intended to distress Paul supporters, which is their inclination. As for St. Anselm College, their schedule show no events whatever on January 6th.

Update4: This gets more interesting. The source for the original story was the Big Head DC blog, run by one Rob Capriccioso. At first, I thought he had just made an innocent error, but his wife says he is "working on a cutting-edge blog war strategy.

""Blog wars were so lame before my husband came around. It was just people making fun of each other or posting unflattering pictures. BORING! But then my husband figured something out: posting full names and job names really scared people and can potentially disrupt their lives. So exciting!"

Then, I discovered that Capriccioso was responsible for "outing" Trent Lott, apparently with fabricated emails from a purported homosexual lover. Did he decide to spoof the entire Ron Paul story, just to "disrupt the lives" of Ron Paul supporters?

Update5: WorldNetDaily has confirmed the accuracy of this report. In a review of other candidate websites and news schedules, no such event exists.

Update6: Further evidence of Fox Newsâ?? apparent innocence (this time) is their sponsorship of the January 10th GOP Debate in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It would make no sense to exclude Ron Paul on January 6th, but to reportedly include him in a debate four days later.

This report does not conflict with the RP press release, in which Kent Snyder states that they are "continuing to make inquiries" to determine why Paul was "apparently excluded." I totally agree with his reasons why Paul should be included in all broadcast debates.

Thanks to Mondoreb at Death by 1000 Papercuts for the compliment and some cute stock photos. This report, he writes,

"... is as accurate as we have been able to verify at this point in time. It may prove to contain errors, but we couldn't find any, based on what DBKP knows at this moment."

Apologies to Chris Brunner of Lew Rockwell for incorrectly identifying him as the author of the WorldNetDaily post, which is not attributed. Thanks to Jane Aitken, a huge RP booster in New Hampshire, who will be following up with the NHGOP.

Update7: NHGOP Press Secretary Barney Keller, in transit to New York City on his cell phone, says all candidates have been invited to attend and "say a few words" at the noon Sunday "Presidential Brunch" event, which may be covered by C-Span. Independent of that event, says Keller, Fox News has arranged for the use of a television studio at St. Anselm College for possible interviews with presidential candidates that evening. There will be no public audience and, to the best of his knowledge, all candidates have been invited. That session is totally under the control of Fox News, he says, which may be taped or done as a live broadcast. Awaiting return call from Fox VP John Moody. [12/30/07 02:30 pm PT]

Ron Paul NOT excluded from Fox debate

Thanks for the updates.

Im going to get to Home Depot some time this week and make up some festive Ron Paul signs and post them along the highway for about 40 miles all the way to Phoenix. Hoping to put 1 about every 7-8 miles.

Im debating what to put, I want to put "Ron Paul" then underneath put "Unfuck America 2008".. but im figuring the police would probably pull up the signs for saying "fuck". so I think I might go a little more conservative and put "Ron Paul" "For Change 2008"

If you can think of something better, please comment. Im completely open to a catchy slogan. Im hoping to make each sign on some sort of ply-wood with spray painted letters.

Ive seen some pretty cool "Ron Paul Revolution" signs as well.

Ive seen more Ron Paul signs than any other canidate so far, so its definetely a good sign for us.

Keep up the great work guys :D

"Google Ron Paul" may seem silly to you at this point, but ridiculous as it sounds, a lot of people have not heard of him yet.

I've seen some of the homespun signs for Ron around my area, and they have more of an impact on me than the prefab signs.

I'm in!

I think when it comes to "our" core issues, Ron's the only choice.

YouTube - Ron Paul Fox Covers Fox Censorship New Hampshire Forum Jan 6

Ron Paul indeed Out-Foxed (for now)

by Jason George

Fergus Cullen, chairman of the New Hampshire State Republican Committee, confirmed Sunday evening to the Tribune that, yes, there will be a televised Fox News presidential candidate forum on Jan. 6, and yes, Rep. Ron Paul was not invited when the other candidates were a week or so ago.

"My understanding is that five candidates to that point had been offered spots but the event is still coming together," Cullen said.

The candidates invited to the forum/debate â?? whatever you want to call it â?? will be Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. John McCain, Gov. Mitt Romney and Sen. Fred Thompson.

Cullen said the event, which is set to take place two days before the New Hampshire primary, will be held in the afternoon or evening at St. Anselm College in Goffstown, N.H. When asked if Fox News, which is co-sponsoring the debate with the NH party, planned to invite Paul later, Cullen said he didn't know.

"It's really premature. Just the other day candidates started to accept invitations."

On Saturday, Paul called Fox News "scared of me." They "don't want my message to get out, but it will," according to The Boston Globe's Primary Source blog.

"They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative."

On Sunday night, Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said the campaign remains angry, and in the dark.

"We have not heard anything else today," he said. "[Fox] continues to ignore our calls."

The Swamp: Ron Paul indeed Out-Foxed (for now)

Thanks for being fair in opening this thread up again, mods.:thumbsup:

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Thanks for being fair in opening this thread up again, mods.:thumbsup:

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Looks like you brought some new information to this subject so I merged ALL relating threads and re-opened the original.

If this is true.......it's a bunch of bullshit! I didn't agree with the Dems banning Fox for debates and surely wouldn't back FOX's decision on something like banning a valid candidate.

Have a good one!:s4:

Fox pretty much put that middle finga up an said fuck you america by not letting the man speak to the people. I mean the man got 10% in Iowa and they keep that man out? doesnt make any sense to me. Its a total joke

Sweet Jesus,
I guess that Fox is the Only media outlet, that is state run right? And anyone else that attempts to report any news is kidnapped in the middle of the night and "sent away" correct? And there are no other news networks, media outlets, or any other media at all that is not Fox News, correct? That would go a long way to defend the OPINION that Ron Paul was censored, I mean if all that were true. Holy shit, the Ron Paul and Billary Supporters are getting tougher to sort out. All of them are PMSing I think? Truth is NO ONE is covering him. It's not a conspiracy, he IS NOT in the race! More bad news, check out the thread, this just came in, FOX NEWS is reporting that they have confirmed that some super duper secret agent has been arrested with a smoking gun in hand, all signs point to conspiracy!


Ron Paul Reported Dead!!
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I don't care how much of a chance Ron Paul has, I registered republican so I could vote for him in my state's primaries...if he doesn't make the nomination then I wont vote at all, because then I can say I didn't contribute to the downfall of America, at least if a republican other than Ron Paul gets elected..

I don't think Ron Paul has any chance to win even a single state primary, and I do not personally support him because some of his policies are wacky in my opinion. But I do not think any of the declared candidates with as much support as has should be excluded from any of the media forums.

Just because a candidate will not win does not mean they don't add value to the process of debate. In the case of Ron Paul, he brings the strongest voice in favor of personal liberty and respect for the constitution. It's importatnt to bring that point of view into the debate so that other candidates are forced to take a stand on these important issues. I feel the same way about fringe parties like the Green party. Their candidates seldom stand a chance, but they bring important issues to the table that would otherwise be ignored. If they have supporters, other candidates take note.

On a side note, the other contribution that Ron Paul has made to this election is to energize a lot of people who have been alienated from politics. I hope they don't all just stand out the rest of the election if he doesn't win the nomination --- a few people have posted that they would not vote in the general election if he wasn't on the ticket. You need to stay engaged. Do you think Ron Paul will give up all politics if he doesn't win? Of course not. If you really believe in his message, then you need to carry it forward --- other candidates will take note. If you just withdraw from the process, why would any candidate care what you believe? If there is no chance of getting your vote, they will ignore you.

I couldn't tell from all the back and forth whether it finally ended up that Ron Paul was excluded or not. Was he?

One thing is for sure, Fox news is a joke. It's a thoroughly biased entertainment medium posing as a news outlet. It's designed for feeding a select audience what it already wants to hear and for making a ton of money selling advertising. Cable channels are not bound by the same Federal laws regarding acting in the public interest and equal time. Broadcast networks use the broadcast spectrum ("airwaves"), which are publicly owned, so there are rules regarding their use. In order to maintain their license, they follow certain rules. Cable does not have those sae erules, so cable "news" shows like Fox can get away with being more biased.

Well at least the NH GOP withdrew support from the FOX debate. Ron got a hour long town hall meeting on local TV the same day and made it on Leno due to this.

Part 1 NH town hall
Part 2 NH town hall