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These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.
Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.
2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: ??it??s been long enough,? and ??I??ll only use occasionally.?
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical ??welcome back?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.
More personal observations:
Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression
So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.
Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:
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Wow, good luck to you I hope the best for you. If smoking is not in some way enriching your life then why do it? From what you have said the bad far out weighed the good and it sounds like you are doing the right thing.
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buddy your smoking the wrong stuff if you have no sex drive,i fing my sex performance becomes somewhat enhanced!but then again us farm chicks smoke some wierd shit!
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Originally Posted by FindingTim
These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.
Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.
2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: ??it??s been long enough,? and ??I??ll only use occasionally.?
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical ??welcome back?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.
More personal observations:
Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression
So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.
Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:
The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.
Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:
Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.
Loss in condience? So, you've got none when your stoned, and when you quit, you've got none? Strange....
Have you EVER thought to stop and look at yourself!? Maybe it's not the weed, but YOU.
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Originally Posted by LIP
The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.
Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:
Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.
Loss in condience? So, you've got none when your stoned, and when you quit, you've got none? Strange....
Have you EVER thought you stop, and look at yourself!? Maybe it's not the weed, but YOU.
Your only counter-argument that I even find slightly realistic is about my weight gain. But keep in mind, cannabis does increase appettite, so I'm not entirely to blame. I'm 6'0 165 though, which isn't overly large by any means.
So what I've gathered is that you think cannabis can do nothing beyond get you stoned, and that it cannot have any direct effect on mental functioning... honestly, it sounds like you are in COMPLETE denial. A year ago I likely would have completely agreed with you... but I suspect that your thoughts will change with time.
And as for marijuana, it contains chemicals that alter the way your brain works. How could you be so ignorant as to think that it cannot change your behavior, sleep, and appetite etc?
Also, what inspired you to take my initial post so damn personally? Your all-cap words and obvious disgust seem a bit dramatic...
The one statement I'd like to retract is that "(Weed) completely changed my personality." This is simply not true. It would be more accurate to say that it only allowed little flashes of my overall character to show through.
I'm also curious if there are any studies that support any of what I have observed. Google here I come...
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Originally Posted by FindingTim
Your only counter-argument that I even find slightly realistic is about my weight gain. But keep in mind, cannabis does increase appettite, so I'm not entirely to blame. I'm 6'0 165 though, which isn't overly large by any means.
So what I've gathered is that you think cannabis can do nothing beyond get you stoned, and that it cannot have any direct effect on mental functioning... honestly, it sounds like you are in COMPLETE denial. A year ago I likely would have completely agreed with you... but I suspect that your thoughts will change with time.
And as for marijuana, it contains chemicals that alter the way your brain works. How could you be so ignorant as to think that it cannot change your behavior, sleep, and appetite etc?
Lastly, what inspired you to take my initial post so damn personally? Your all-cap words and obvious disgust seem a bit dramatic...
Denial? You're how old? I've been smoking longer than you, more than you, and probably know more about it than you.
And yes, your right. It disgusts me that people would be as ignorant as YOU.
Your trying to blame your problems on weed, and THAT is pathetic.
Weed doesnt do half the things you seem to think it does.
Cannabis does increase your appetite - but it's YOUR choice to eat.
The same goes for pretty much the rest of your post. Cannabis isnt doing these things to you, YOUR doing them to yourself.
If cannabis caused all these problems, wouldnt everyone [ok, not everyone, but the majority] feel the same? Wouldn't the older smokers such as myself know ALL about this?
Weed doesnt make you lazy - it doesnt nail your feet to the floor. You make yourself lazy.
I dont think i mentioned anything about sleep, apart from dreaming - and what i said was 100% right.
So, you carry on blaming all your failings as a human on weed, and have fun while you do it! :thumbsup: hahahahaa
And if your going to try and prove me wrong, just make sure you stay away from the government sponcered/influenced websites, otherwise it's automatically void.
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I'd also like to clarify one final thing: the section "Negatives of Marijuana abuse" does not mean the negatives perceived while stoned. It more accurately reflects the sober gaps of time in between smoke sessions.
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I love it, you tokers love it, and we scream for ________ !
PEACE,
Da 01
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Originally Posted by LIP
Denial? You're how old? I've been smoking longer than you, more than you, and probably know more about it than you.
And yes, your right. It disgusts me that people would be as ignorant as YOU.
Your trying to blame your problems on weed, and THAT is pathetic.
Weed doesnt do half the things you seem to think it does.
Cannabis does increase your appetite - but it's YOUR choice to eat.
The same goes for pretty much the rest of your post. Cannabis isnt doing these things to you, YOUR doing them to yourself.
If cannabis caused all these problems, wouldnt everyone [ok, not everyone, but the majority] feel the same? Wouldn't the older smokers such as myself know ALL about this?
Weed doesnt make you lazy - it doesnt nail your feet to the floor. You make yourself lazy.
I dont think i mentioned anything about sleep, apart from dreaming - and what i said was 100% right.
So, you carry on blaming all your failings as a human on weed, and have fun while you do it! :thumbsup: hahahahaa
And if your going to try and prove me wrong, just make sure you stay away from the government sponcered/influenced websites, otherwise it's automatically void.
I am slightly offended by your remarks about my "failings as a human." Truthfully, my life is so incredible and I have such a wide variety of things going well for me that I would not trade my life situation for any other.
Here's a question for you since you are "older" and "more experienced." Have you ever considered that you may have been smoking for so long, that you have completely forgotten how you once functioned. Could you be so far removed from what you once knew as reality, that you now blindly bitch out 18 year olds on message boards in defense of your drug addiction?
Listen, what I wrote about is marijuana abuse. I believe that pot can be a positive substance when used in moderation. In terms of marijuana abuse, however, my observations are actually widely agreed with. I just did the googling...
You see, your main argument is that I am blaming my own issues on marijuana, when I am truly the one to blame. Well, technically you are right, because I am to blame for smoking heavy amounts of denk marijuana. See my reasoning?
Right now, I have been sober for a long enough time that I am passed the "withdrawal symptom" timetable. Literally, every single negative thing mentioned is no longer an issue for me.
Oh, and as for goverment websites, I know they are biased pieces of shit when it comes to marijuana. I rely more on studies published at universities... and studies in general.
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I am Da 1 here talking to you.
WE ALL SCREAM FOR SOMETHING, RIGHT?
fill in the blank _______ , you feel me at least.
peace,
da' one
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Originally Posted by farmgirl
buddy your smoking the wrong stuff if you have no sex drive,i fing my sex performance becomes somewhat enhanced!but then again us farm chicks smoke some wierd shit!
Well, whatever it is you are smoking it is preventing you from correctly spelling "weird."
Just thought I'd help you out for future purposes...
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Originally Posted by FindingTim
I am slightly offended by your remarks about my "failings as a human." Truthfully, my life is so incredible and I have such a wide variety of things going well for me that I would not trade my life situation for any other.
Here's a question for you since you are "older" and "more experienced." Have you ever considered that you may have been smoking for so long, that you have completely forgotten how you once functioned. Could you be so far removed from what you once knew as reality, that you now blindly bitch out 18 year olds on message boards in defense of your drug addiction?
Listen, what I wrote about is marijuana abuse. I believe that pot can be a positive substance when used in moderation. In terms of marijuana abuse, however, my observations are actually widely agreed with. I just did the googling...
You see, your main argument is that I am blaming my own issues on marijuana, when I am truly the one to blame. Well, technically you are right, because I am to blame for smoking heavy amounts of denk marijuana. See my reasoning?
Right now, I have been sober for a long enough time that I am passed the "withdrawal symptom" timetable. Literally, every single negative thing mentioned is no longer an issue for me.
Oh, and as for goverment websites, I know they are biased pieces of shit when it comes to marijuana. I rely more on studies published at universities... and studies in general.
Well, your not as ignorant as i thought you were - well done!
Your right, everything in moderation. I got slightly heated because alot of the things you mentioned, you were blaming directly on the cannabis, when infact, it wasnt the cannabis.
I've been smoking heavily since my teens, i smoke all day, everyday.
It doesnt effect my life is any negative ways. I also smoke medicinally.
Now, i smoke more than the normal person for a few reasons, 1 my supply is abit cheaper, 2 i smoke medicainally and 3 i can afford to. I work full time as a manager, and im stoned while i do it. I'm not lazy, i havnt lost my emotions, my sleeping is fine, and appetite is fine, my memory is fine [although i agree, short term memeory can be affected by weed]
I'm certainly not addicted though. I dont crave cannabis, i choose to roll it up and get stoned. I enjoy every aspect of it, including the pain relief.
It's very rare that i ever take a break, but when i do, i dont feel lazy, un movtivaed. I dont feel tired all the time, and i dont eat less. I dont feel jumpy, and i dont crave my weed.
I know weed isnt for everyone. But just because you have problems, doesnt mean it's the weed thats causing them.
If weed DID do all these things [be it when your stoned or sober] surely i would have had some first hand experience, concidering i smoke what most people would probably call too much.
If there are any other older smokers reading this - give us your opinions.
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Originally Posted by Da1One1
Thankyou. Merry Christmas to you too. :rastasmoke:
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I'm also sorry for offending you, FindingTim.
The trick with my posts is to ignore most of whats in them haha.
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LIP - Not accepting other peoples opinions since 06.
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Originally Posted by LIP
The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.
Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:
Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.
Loss in condience? So, you've got none when your stoned, and when you quit, you've got none? Strange....
Have you EVER thought to stop and look at yourself!? Maybe it's not the weed, but YOU.
I agree completly.
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Very insightful post. Thank you for sharing, Tim.
I find myself on the same journey it seems. I haven't yet been able to quit though. I can't decide if I'm in denial or what.
My life seems ok, I have a job I love, wife I love, and a kid on the way. I have good friends and am able to maintain a life similar to before smoking weed, if not better. I just get this feeling that maybe I'm missing out by lighting up each day? I usually smoke a bowl each day after work and a bit on the weekends.
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Well Tim I'm at the exact same stage right now.
Before years of smoking ridiculous amounts every day, I was a bright, chipper, funny kid.
Pot was great in the first stages of my smoking it, but like you MANY negative effects started to surface after a while. And it only took not having a smoke for a few days to realise what these negative effects really were.
And now I have put all my bongs and pipes away, intentionally left my half-o at my buddys house, and I couldn't be happier. My mind is clearer, I have much more motivation, and I'm not a fumbling nervous wreck in social situations.
If I continued to smoke pot all-day every-day like I was, my life would continue to be shit. I don't want to work at some 9-to-5 retail shop doing stupid meaningless work so the owner of the company can make a little extra profit on top of his/her millions. I have dreams of my own, and they began to fade with chronic pot use.
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Having been toking for 40 odd years, the last 4 every day use for medical reasons, I have experienced very little of what you describe! My dreams are vivid, my energy levels are high, I've lost 60 pounds, I work in special education, am very artistic and creative and the brain seems to be functioning well at age 60. Everyone thinks I'm in my mid40s or 50s, when I just turned 60.
I don't have a lot of close friends, but I have friendships going back 30 years. My lack of having many truly close friends is by choice and I am well liked by my fellow workers and "ordinary" friends. I'm not a "social butterfly". I don't go to the frequent "potlucks" my school throws, but that is due to severe food allergies (not life threatening, but very unpleasant)- I don't want to end up in the hospital again! Eating anyone else's food can be a gamble!
I use every day and I feel my life is better for it emotionally and physically. For me it is the difference between a life plagued with migraines and cluster headaches, and a normal life. When I started this job at the school, I stayed pretty well "straight" for 3 years before the constant pain drove me to get "California legal" - for me, being "straight" is hellish!
So, different strokes for different folks! The world would be dull if we were all alike (like the prohibs seem to want us to be). If you feel pot is detrimental for you at this stage of your life, by all means quit. It would be foolish not to. May you be happy :) - Granny:hippy:
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I find that the older I get, the less marijuana it takes to have the desired effects. Two ounces a year of high quality stuff, which is about a gram a week, is more than enough to help me every day. Right now I'm doing fine on less. It probably helped to keep me going during the years that I had a chronic medical condition that was misdiagnosed. If this is an "addiction", then so be it.
If you don't like it anymore, then you shouldn't post about it here.
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
If you don't like it anymore, then you shouldn't post about it here.
Of course he should. If he wants to. This isn't "There's only one way to feel about Cannabis.com."
I'm one of those people for whom it negatively affected my motivation and memory very noticeably. It also affected my heart rhythm in a frightening way and, if I used it now, would likely interact with the anti-arrhythmic medicine I take. So I abstain as well. I want to use it again later, and I really want it to be legal when that time comes. I like the way it feels and I found that, for me, although it depleted my motivation, it still did good things for my mood.
One of the things I always cringe at here is when one person tells of his experiences with cannabis and others jump in to tell him he's feeling the wrong thing or saying the wrong thing. Or that his personal experiences are somehow incorrect, all imagined, or invalid. If I could have a single wish granted for this site, it'd be for people to realize that cannabis affects different people different ways, not all of them positively. Just because it affects four people positively doesn't mean it does the same thing for the next four. It's like any other medicine. People are going to have both negative and positive responses to it, and that's as it should be since every person's body and neurochemistry are unique.
Anyway, that's my message. Live and let be. Let freedom ring. Let cannabis be discussed in the first person as people experience it and don't step over those boundaries and tell someone he's wrong for not feeling the same thing you feel. We'll be doing a heck of a lot more justice to cannabis if we acknowledge that it works well for some and not for others than pretending that it's the be-all end-all substance for everyone.
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Originally Posted by FindingTim
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
smoking does not make me feel like that at all.
Though, if you really feel all those i can see why you would want to quit. the only thing i really agree with you on on your list is memory loss, though for the most part, its simple stuff such as: forgetting where i put my glass of water when i'm getting ready to get to run.
I typically find in in 30 seconds or so.
Maybe one day you can enjoy the herb without smoking yourself into oblivion. It's always a bummer when someone hits rock bottom. Enjoy school bud!:hippy:
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Of course he should. If he wants to. This isn't "There's only one way to feel about Cannabis.com."
I'm one of those people for whom it negatively affected my motivation and memory very noticeably. It also affected my heart rhythm in a frightening way and, if I used it now, would likely interact with the anti-arrhythmic medicine I take. So I abstain as well. I want to use it again later, and I really want it to be legal when that time comes. I like the way it feels and I found that, for me, although it depleted my motivation, it still did good things for my mood.
One of the things I always cringe at here is when one person tells of his experiences with cannabis and others jump in to tell him he's feeling the wrong thing or saying the wrong thing. Or that his personal experiences are somehow incorrect, all imagined, or invalid. If I could have a single wish granted for this site, it'd be for people to realize that cannabis affects different people different ways, not all of them positively. Just because it affects four people positively doesn't mean it does the same thing for the next four. It's like any other medicine. People are going to have both negative and positive responses to it, and that's as it should be since every person's body and neurochemistry are unique.
Anyway, that's my message. Live and let be. Let freedom ring. Let cannabis be discussed in the first person as people experience it and don't step over those boundaries and tell someone he's wrong for not feeling the same thing you feel. We'll be doing a heck of a lot more justice to cannabis if we acknowledge that it works well for some and not for others than pretending that it's the be-all end-all substance for everyone.
Amen sista:thumbsup:
U should write a book or something :D
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Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Of course he should. If he wants to. This isn't "There's only one way to feel about Cannabis.com."
I seriously wanted to bitch that guy out for such a stupid and ignorant comment, but I thought he'd get his back up like the other guy in this thread. So kudos to knowing how to properly express how you feel without offending people!
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Quit for whatever reasons you want, as long as you don't slander those that continue with non factual information.
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I quit last night actually, went out with a bang.
I will be smoking again, but my time of smoking has ended for while... not like years and years, but I have certain federal drug tests to pass in the next month.
So yeah.
I have never felt any of the negative effects of pot until I kinda hit rock bottom. I would wake'n'bake with 2 or 3 bowls of dankdank (I can post pics if y'all me too of the shit I smoke, its nose numbingly strong) and still was not obliterated, lunch would come, smoke two or three more, then before a venture outside to work or whatnot, smoke some more. I felt as if I could not get high, I could get stoned, but not ...as a kite. I waited three days one time before smoking again, and it was great, I got blazed as hell and whatnot, but it just didn't last as long as it used to, like 45 min. So yeah. Idk where I'm going with this, as it is my first sober post on the site. I am going to continue to partake on the site, as pot I believe WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF MY LIFE! I just turned 20. That is all. Thanks for reading.
Whoever sig was about being a bad person because they smoke, I liked that btw.
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I smoke alot. I grow my own very potent mj and I blaze it. When I was younger I used to smoke all the time and try to stay stoned 24/7. I took a 5 yr break and grew up. Now I smoke at night and only after I've accomplished my tasks for the day, MJ doesn't make me better socially or give me deeper thoughts, I am me with or without weed. I take it to ease my pain and sleep at night. I take it because I love the communion with nature and the nourishment of something from the earth that my hands have wrought. More power to you for quitting to improve yourself Tim, I understand and college is an important time to learn not just about academia but about your self and the man you will become. In the future if the time is right and you truely did love the plant I think you can come back to it with a better understanding and respect of your self that will transfer into all of the activities you do.
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shit, Im like a thrill seeker so naturaly the first time I got high I was exploring the high seeing what it did, Man after that you dont wanna know. But ill tell you anyways. It was fun all the time with friends and shit but after awhile its all I did and cared about. I tried to get as much as I could when ever, like a typical addict I smoked my self retarted for months on end. Then reality set in and I had to deal with all the bullshit and problumes I caused when I was fucking around off in space. Now when I smoke occasionaly Im more mature about it. Yeah I admit I was a drug addict not saying weed was my "drug" I did alotta other shit, But thats just how I was back then. Outta control and imature, I do believe in weed being a good positive tool even know Im not that reprensentation of it.
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very stimulating discussion. i've been asking all those questions to myself lately. that smoke session haze and wanting to be high all the time and change is crazy. i also wish we could know definitively if pot causes brain damage.
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Originally Posted by FindingTim
More personal observations:
Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression
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Originally Posted by LIP
The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.
Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:
Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.
I've been smoking pot for half my life now, almost as long as lots of you guys have been alive. These should not in any way be considered the definitive stages of pot smoking. I find both of you to be about half right and half wrong according to my personal experiences and non-biased research.
1. First off, I can't believe you could only find two positives about smoking weed. Why the hell did you keep smoking? One of them is social involvement. Then you go to say in the negatives that it weakens social involvement. Make up your mind. I personally find it increases your social involvement as you have something to do with people. You're rarely excluded from non pot smoking crowds because you may smoke on your own time.
2. Weight gain. It's a positive aspect for cancer and leukemia (or whathaveyou) patients. Weight gain shouldn't be a problem unless you're already on the verge of being fat. It can be counteracted if you just get off your ass and do something physical. And you can eat nutitious munchies if you're that worried about weight gain.
3. Loss of motivation. OK, yeah, I can see that. It's called amotivational syndrome. I personally experience this all the time and do believe it could be pot related. As for loss of emotions, BS.
4. Worse physical appearance. More BS. Might come with amotivational syndrome, but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.
5. Memory loss. Definitely. Still got long term though. And can be counteracted by keeping your head busy. Read, write, do something. If you don't your brain rots away without pot.
6. Sex drive stays the same with or without pot. Sometimes I'm too stoned to wanna have sex, but when I sober up, it's on.
7. Never heard the increased estrogen thing so I will neither confirm nor deny it.
8. Learning difficulty. Comes with short term memory loss. But I still have no problem learning anything I halfway want to learn. Just pay attention in class.
9. Loss of confidence in what? I'm still confident I can do anything I could do before i started smoking whether I'm high or sober.
10. Personality. It changes with time anyway. Probably attributed to your crowd more than the drugs they do. Influence of peers, not drugs.
11. I sleep way better stoned. I'm sure i dream, jus don't remember them. The average person has 5 dreams a night but doesn't remember one no mater what chemicals they put in their body.
12. Wrestlessness. Learn to spell.
So yeah, that's my two cents.
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Originally Posted by 4twentE
I've been smoking pot for half my life now, almost as long as lots of you guys have been alive. These should not in any way be considered the definitive stages of pot smoking. I find both of you to be about half right and half wrong according to my personal experiences and non-biased research.
1. First off, I can't believe you could only find two positives about smoking weed. Why the hell did you keep smoking? One of them is social involvement. Then you go to say in the negatives that it weakens social involvement. Make up your mind. I personally find it increases your social involvement as you have something to do with people. You're rarely excluded from non pot smoking crowds because you may smoke on your own time.
2. Weight gain. It's a positive aspect for cancer and leukemia (or whathaveyou) patients. Weight gain shouldn't be a problem unless you're already on the verge of being fat. It can be counteracted if you just get off your ass and do something physical. And you can eat nutitious munchies if you're that worried about weight gain.
3. Loss of motivation. OK, yeah, I can see that. It's called amotivational syndrome. I personally experience this all the time and do believe it could be pot related. As for loss of emotions, BS.
4. Worse physical appearance. More BS. Might come with amotivational syndrome, but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.
5. Memory loss. Definitely. Still got long term though. And can be counteracted by keeping your head busy. Read, write, do something. If you don't your brain rots away without pot.
6. Sex drive stays the same with or without pot. Sometimes I'm too stoned to wanna have sex, but when I sober up, it's on.
7. Never heard the increased estrogen thing so I will neither confirm nor deny it.
8. Learning difficulty. Comes with short term memory loss. But I still have no problem learning anything I halfway want to learn. Just pay attention in class.
9. Loss of confidence in what? I'm still confident I can do anything I could do before i started smoking whether I'm high or sober.
10. Personality. It changes with time anyway. Probably attributed to your crowd more than the drugs they do. Influence of peers, not drugs.
11. I sleep way better stoned. I'm sure i dream, jus don't remember them. The average person has 5 dreams a night but doesn't remember one no mater what chemicals they put in their body.
12. Wrestlessness. Learn to spell.
So yeah, that's my two cents.
You present a good point about me listing only 2 positives about smoking. You see, "get high" is very broad. "Get high" includes everything from enhanced creative thought to food taste enhancement. I didn't feel the need to list every positive aspect of being stoned, so that is why I merely said "get high." Can you guys think of any other positives about smoking aside from the obvious?
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Mine were all the obvious (and mostly medical) ones: enhanced appetite, suppressed nausea, improvement in mood/relief of depression, relaxation. The non-medical effect that I found most unique in myself was enhanced the creativity/inventiveness, but you already covered that.
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Positive:
It moderates all my crazy brain cells.
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I think the problem is when you base your activities around smoking weed. I think it should only be secondary to whatever whether it be socializing with friends or whooping your friend's ass in a video game. You shouldn't smoke just to smoke and do nothing. That is addiction.
Marijuana IS addictive if you have an addictive personality. You could have been addicted to alcohol or sleep aids. You could be addicted to anything else too.
Weed shouldn't be your life, it should be a insignificant part of it or a hobby. Growing weed should be considered the same as a gardening hobby, without much to do with weed.
Good for you Tim. It isn't for everyone and you got yourself away from something that was negatively affecting your life. It probably isn't the same for most people, but you are your own person. Life is too short and too big to spend in your basement smoking when there is a whole world out there.
Too much of anything is bad for you, even if it isn't physically bad for you. Think about that for awhile.
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sounds like its straight out of the dea's teen section of their website...
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No, DEA's teens would be like this: "I smoked pot once and almost everyone died. Everyone that survived rejected Jesus and then became a communist and a threat to the United States."
Oh and i forgot in my last post. I've been smoking weed everyday for about a month now and the only thing it has affected is my will to work out. I used to lift weights everyday and now I'm like "i'll smoke and then go work out when I'm sober." Which never works because I'm like screw it, i'll go tomorrow lol. I'm going to be quitting after New Years before class starts up again. I'm going to be doing 17 hours of classes and it is going to be an insane amount of work, I don't need any distractions.
Other than that, I haven't had any negative effects but definitely seen people that are complete fucking losers because they smoke everyday. Don't be one of those people, because you are going to ruin the cause and become another one of DEA's statistics.
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well cmon man , anything too much will kill you,
coffee, beer,cough syrup,water even
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Originally Posted by FindingTim
You present a good point about me listing only 2 positives about smoking. You see, "get high" is very broad. "Get high" includes everything from enhanced creative thought to food taste enhancement. I didn't feel the need to list every positive aspect of being stoned, so that is why I merely said "get high." Can you guys think of any other positives about smoking aside from the obvious?
yeah. just that only listing two makes your post seem very biased. i'll start with your two positives:
enhanced creativity, better food taste, relaxation, euphoria, drive slower, drink less, eat more, more medical uses than i can name, better sleep, social enhancement, cultural exposure, cures boredom, cooking, more patience, stress relief, makes movies, games and other activities more fun...i could name more if i really wanted to think about it. not everybody experiences things the same way but these are a few ways pot has enhanced my life.
