Do you think we'll experience 100% LEGAL WEED in our lifetime?

I'd love to see the MJ legal like beer. Walk into a corner store and buy an 1/8th like you're buying six pack.

In all honesty, do you think we'll see that in our life time?

No. Part of me thinks it would be AWESOME, but the other part of me fears it. If the government did it then prices would go up, there would be taxes also. Brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. It sounds alight, but considering pot is mostly enjoyed by those who dislike the government and big buisness, and we would be buying directly from them.

If it became legal some sort of system like a breatholizer must be needed for those driving impared. Sounds like alot of work to be done in lets say 80 years.

no i wish

I herd Ron Paul is promising something like this.

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Originally Posted by Sandman27

No. Part of me thinks it would be AWESOME, but the other part of me fears it. If the government did it then prices would go up, there would be taxes also. Brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. It sounds alight, but considering pot is mostly enjoyed by those who dislike the government and big buisness, and we would be buying directly from them.

If it became legal some sort of system like a breatholizer must be needed for those driving impared. Sounds like alot of work to be done in lets say 80 years.

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Prices would actually drop dramatically. Marijuana is one of the most versatile plants on the planet. It is extremely easy to cultivate. Many places in South American where marijuana laws are slack or ignored, weed can go for a few bucks per pound. One con of legalization would be that the government would ban the cultivation of marijuana by citizens, in order to make a profit. They did this with tobacco too. But hey, that would still be much better than the insane laws we have in place now.

in my dreams its legal already:hippy:

More decriminalization would be a better goal in my opinion, no one should go to jail for pot.

I dunno but we wouldn't have as much diversity in strains as we do on the illegal market today. Just a thought.

Some of my friends think so, but I don't know. It's already legal in the US in some states. Not all US citizens understand what that means, however.

I hope everyday that I see this.
I at least may want to move to Canada or a decriminalized state if it doesnt hppen.
I think there is a chance. Some people are finally starting to see the truth. Governors, Senators and even 08 presedential candidate, RON PAUL. Vote for him...theres hope for the country.

yes ive heard the same about ron paul...hes got my vote!!! :stoned:


think about it, prohibition for alcohol could only last so long in america, why not the same for MJ?

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Originally Posted by BlazedinBA

yes ive heard the same about ron paul...hes got my vote!!! :stoned:


think about it, prohibition for alcohol could only last so long in america, why not the same for MJ?

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It was easy for alcohol prohibition to be repealed because the people who were fighting against the ban could remember what it was like and that everybody did it. Everyone's just now slowly re-learning the mildness of Cannabis.

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Originally Posted by BlazedinBA

yes ive heard the same about ron paul...hes got my vote!!! :stoned:


think about it, prohibition for alcohol could only last so long in america, why not the same for MJ?

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Because MJ has alot more forces working against it. Not like the old bags of the temperance movement. The Government, Pharmaceutical companies, and fiber producers (cotton, wood, etc) are all against MJ/Hemp.

Too bad, cause this world really would be a better place if everyone would just toke up. :jointsmile:

It wont happen. As GanjaMan7 rightly said...its one of the most versatile plants on the planet. This also means it can grow in even the most difficult environments and to be honest doesnt need really need any care to grow weed. You could go out and plant some clones, return a few months later and theres a very good chance of it having bud. This is where the problem lies. Anything that is that simple to grow cant be taxed. The government would tax the sale of it via their "official distributors" which would mean everyone would just go back to buying from the growers for less due to it being untaxed. Its a no win for the government.

That doesn't explain anything cause u can bootleg booze too but they still sell that. There are ways around everything, but there are also a shitload of people who don't know anyone who grows who will buy weed...maybe go into the convenience store and buy a pack of MaryJ brand joints or something...LOL!

Of course they still sell booze. Who the hell is gonna buy bootleg booze for a few pence cheaper than the real deal? Its also to do with the large profits cannabis can reap in a very short amount of time. Its a lot LOT harder to do that with cheap bootleg booze that nobody wants to drink.

The entire reason they didn't allow bootleg booze was because of the taxes. No other reason. Uncle Sam wanted his cut of people getting drunk. Same thing will happen with weed. It can't be legal because it's too easy to grow and the U.S. will get screwed out of it's precious taxes.

The US already taxes Cannabis.

I would like to hope this could become reality.

Imagine this. They could brand their products (packs of cigs) with Light, Mild, or whatever to explain potency. You could get like whatever the fuck you wanted like different strains or stuff, For a nice price.

It seems to good to be true for me though.

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Originally Posted by Sandman27

No. Part of me thinks it would be AWESOME, but the other part of me fears it. If the government did it then prices would go up, there would be taxes also. Brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. It sounds alight, but considering pot is mostly enjoyed by those who dislike the government and big buisness, and we would be buying directly from them.

If it became legal some sort of system like a breatholizer must be needed for those driving impared. Sounds like alot of work to be done in lets say 80 years.

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The taxes wouldn't be a problem, it would still cost less than it currently does in the black market. And I personally don't think that brands like cigarettes would take over the industry. I think it would end up being much more like it is in the netherlands... except 100% legal. By the way, if it came out to be the way you think it is, you wouldn't be buying it from the government... it would be from corporations like Marlboro.

If you want 100% legalized cannabis, we can all create our own country.

Call it, "Cannaba." :rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by TheDefiler

Too bad, cause this world really would be a better place if everyone would just toke up. :jointsmile:

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That doesn't make any damn sense. What about the criminals in ghettos? They smoke weed everyday, but go out and rob and kill people! I know that's a overstatement, but it's proof that the calming effects of weed is a personal thing. If you are a violent person to begin with, you will still be violent high.

Ya and all that violence is there because of the poverty and racial disparity. People wouldn't see the need to be violent if the could see a better way. But desperate people do desperate things.

Oh and mfgr: Marlboro is a brand name. The corporation you're thinking of is Philip Morris.

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Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

If you are a violent person to begin with, you will still be violent high.

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Bullshit. I know quite a few naturally high-strung (and inherently violent) people who smoke a bowl and just chill out completely. Maybe after napping, eating, then taking a shower, they'll become unstable again...but their initial reaction is to calm down, relax, and watch a movie, or something. You really want to see these people get violent? Give them some alcohol...and watch the games begin!

I've got bipolar disorder, had it since I was a kid. (I'm in my late 20's now.) I've tried every medication known to man to try and stabilize myself when I could feel an episode coming on, and the only prescription drugs that ever worked were practically narcotics that knocked me flat on my ass. Some drugs worked better than others, but many of them had side-effects that negated any of the benefits.

I'm a lot better at controlling my own symptoms now, without having to rely on experimental drugs, but am still prone to having a manic episode every once in a while. When this happens, I can simply take a few hits of some good herb, and go out for a 2-hour walk along a nature trail...and I'll bypass the episode almost completely. My mind is preoccupied with the relaxing buzz, the sounds/sights/smell of the outdoors, and in short order, a feeling of calm will sweep back over me.

Most drug-induced violent crimes stem from two sources: alcohol, or speed (meth, crack-cocaine, "crank", etc.)...and, of course, a predisposition to being violent in the first place.

yes, i mean I'm pretty young and i probly have allot of life ahead of me. And relay if you think about it allot can happen in say 50 years. But don't just dream about it, do something! and one day cannabis will be finally accepted throughout the world

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Originally Posted by Tony1234567890

I'd love to see the MJ legal like beer. Walk into a corner store and buy an 1/8th like you're buying six pack.

In all honesty, do you think we'll see that in our life time?

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No. But, I would much like to see MJ entirely legal and free to use at will, unlike alcohol which I think should be put on the top shelf and highly regulated.

For the government the changes would be drastic but highly profitable, considering the amount of taxpayers money put into repairing things alcohol broke. How many thousands of people needing hospital treatment every weekend due to the effects and presence of alcohol. Not to mention the amount of money they would revenue in tax from the sale of legal cannabis, thousands and thousands of people having a good time socializing threw out the country, not being excessively sick on them selfs because they have drunk to much.

NOPE ... marijuana will NOT be 'USA-legal' in my lifetime, and probably, never :wtf: ... and soon, our landmark 'foot-in-the-door' Medical Marijuana situation, will be taken away ... you can thank the 'gangsters in storefronts' Dispensaries, and crooked doctors that recommend pot to teenagers with pimple outbreaks, for the loss ... watch and see ...

No it will probably not happen in my lifetime, decriminalisation is the best anyone can hope for. 100% legal weed in my lifetime is doubtful

AH, so true, get a bunch of stoners together you get "Love, Peace, and Music" (aka) "Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll". I know I was there:hippy:. Get a bunch of drunks together you get "Violence, Anger, and DEATH". I know, I was one.:rambo:. Thank GOD I made the SAFER CHOICE :jointsmile:.

I'd love to be able to just walk into a place like a coffeeshop in holland and scrore a bag of da real good... but the older i get, the crazier certain groups get, politics, etc... idk, i am starting to doubt it, but, i will never stop trying to make it happen and i will never give up the dream.

No, never, no shot

I tend to agree with Image Reaper and Akimbo. I rather doubt we'll see it recreationally legal in my lifetime, which is essentially going to last another 40 or so years. I agree with The Image Reaper that the storefronts, dispensaries and doctors who abuse the current system in states where it's medically legal, in combination with a pharmaceutical lobby that quite literally sets medical and drug policy for this county and will fight tooth-and-nail against the acceptance of a substance that threatens their profits, will keep it out of our reach.

I hope to see proper medical legality within my lifetime in many more states and decriminalization for recreational use. That's as optimistic as I can be (and I'm not even all that optimistic about that).

I think it will slowly, very slowly, become decriminalized and made medically available in more states. I think soon (5-10 years) marijuana will be legal for 21+ years of age in states other than Alaska and Colorado, possibly Hawaii or California.

Also more states will become MMJ acceptable, such as Idaho (or Iowa, idk) which soon might be MMJ.

I hope before i die...i could go for a walk an pick as much WILD cannabis FREE because everyone will see this plant WILL BE LEGAL in 20 years all over the world..:rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by Infamous

It wont happen. As GanjaMan7 rightly said...its one of the most versatile plants on the planet. This also means it can grow in even the most difficult environments and to be honest doesnt need really need any care to grow weed. You could go out and plant some clones, return a few months later and theres a very good chance of it having bud. This is where the problem lies. Anything that is that simple to grow cant be taxed. The government would tax the sale of it via their "official distributors" which would mean everyone would just go back to buying from the growers for less due to it being untaxed. Its a no win for the government.

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it will be a win for the gov. if you take in mind that prisons are full of weed smokers/growers:smokin:

not in my life time (im hoping i have at least another 50 60 years)



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i think it would be a free market type of thing, there would be a tax on the stuff sold in the stores. and places that distributed it would have to get a liscense. also i think for this system to be effective, you would have to apply for a growers license and pay a small tax. no big deal if you think about it. some farmers have to pickup licenses for crops they grow already, and any place that sells alcohol, have to get 2 licenses, one for beer and one for spirits. it would be about the same idea i think. yes there will be major companies in the game, then too, you will see alot of coffee shop type's, where they have their store "flavors". thats the only way i can really see the system to be effective. will I ever see it in my lifetime? im not sure. i would like to believe that i will. but the fact of the matter is, is the majority of the voting population are the babyboom generation. yes some of them smoke, but the majority believe all the propoganda junk that is out there. to get it legalized, we would have to sway the minds of all the older voting generation, and find and support cannidates that are for legalization.

start small by getting local people that support marijuana use into your local government, then from there move to the state level, at state level decriminalization will happen, lastly from that, vote in congressmen/women to fight for the right in washington. its not going to be something thats going to be won overnight, its going to have to start small. and spread from there.

think of it this way. if we can get around 30 states to decriminalize it, then those in legisllation can put in a bill to make it a national thing, being as they have the majority, it should sweep pretty quickly, from there, it wont take to much more to push over that last little hump.

I think there is a strong possibility of weed becoming legal in our lifetime. We have to change the national zeitgeist toward it, like how the movie Philadelphia had a huge impact on our society.

For those of you who are worried about prices growing up, did you ever think, if it was legal, you could grow it yourself in your front yard or living room without fear of jail time or fines? The price would go down if it was legal. More supply, same demand, price goes down, especially with so many people just growing their own supply, and not buying. Also, how is the government going to tax something growing in your yard? See, this is part of the reason why it's illegal. They are making so much money throwing us in jail (think lawyers, police, prison guards, judges, bailiffs, an excuse to raise taxes because of overcrowded prisons), and fining us, and if they legalize it, it's impossible to tax personal use.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Clandestine

Bullshit. I know quite a few naturally high-strung (and inherently violent) people who smoke a bowl and just chill out completely. Maybe after napping, eating, then taking a shower, they'll become unstable again...but their initial reaction is to calm down, relax, and watch a movie, or something. You really want to see these people get violent? Give them some alcohol...and watch the games begin!

I've got bipolar disorder, had it since I was a kid. (I'm in my late 20's now.) I've tried every medication known to man to try and stabilize myself when I could feel an episode coming on, and the only prescription drugs that ever worked were practically narcotics that knocked me flat on my ass. Some drugs worked better than others, but many of them had side-effects that negated any of the benefits.

I'm a lot better at controlling my own symptoms now, without having to rely on experimental drugs, but am still prone to having a manic episode every once in a while. When this happens, I can simply take a few hits of some good herb, and go out for a 2-hour walk along a nature trail...and I'll bypass the episode almost completely. My mind is preoccupied with the relaxing buzz, the sounds/sights/smell of the outdoors, and in short order, a feeling of calm will sweep back over me.

Most drug-induced violent crimes stem from two sources: alcohol, or speed (meth, crack-cocaine, "crank", etc.)...and, of course, a predisposition to being violent in the first place.

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and 'no' wont b legal, the best we can hope for is continued decriminalization in more states.

hell ya i hope so im 19 and i can honestly say 75% of our youth smoke marijuana, im not sure if this is anymore then in the 70's and 80's, maybe an elder smoker could inform me? But by the time my generation makes it to the white house and congress it will be 420 all day everyday. :jointsmile: