Why Oprah Won't Help Obama
In polls and focus groups, voters continue to express doubts about Obama's readiness for the presidency, particularly when compared with Clinton. Some analysts have taken to saying that "experience" is a threshold question â?? that Obama does not need to be seen as more ready than Clinton, just ready enough to do the job. That might be true (or it might not), but the evidence suggests that many voters still have reservations about the Illinois Senator. And the Clinton campaign plainly intends to do what it can to undermine her rival on this very point between now and January.
So yes, expect loud, rousing rallies in all three early voting states when Oprah Winfrey comes to town with her friend Barack Obama in early December, with gobs of media attention, raucous crowds, emotion and great pictures. But don't expect those events to do anything productive to allow Obama to get over the biggest hurdle standing between him and the White House. American voters are not looking for a celebrity or talk show sidekick to lead them. Obama is an intelligent and thoughtful potential President, but Winfrey's imprimatur is unlikely to convey those traits to many undecided voters.
In that respect, Winfrey's events might even be â?? dare it be said â?? counterproductive.
Why Oprah Won't Help Obama - TIME
Obama's big on stating how he's against help from special interest groups........so what do ya call the Hollywood elite?
Have a good one!:s4:
Why Oprah Won't Help Obama
Nah. I hope people vote republican.
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Obama's big on stating how he's against help from special interest groups........so what do ya call the Hollywood elite?
"special interests" usually indicate corporate interests. Pharmaceutical and Oil companies in the pockes of leaders has led to a lot of problems (ie. legallizing medicinal cannabis, moving to clean energy). Somehow I don't think we have to worry about dangerous legislation in favor of the Oprah Windrey show.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
"special interests" usually indicate corporate interests. Pharmaceutical and Oil companies in the pockes of leaders has led to a lot of problems (ie. legallizing medicinal cannabis, moving to clean energy). Somehow I don't think we have to worry about dangerous legislation in favor of the Oprah Windrey show.
You don't think that Oprah and the rest of the Hollywood elite have an agenda?
Have a good one!:s4:
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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
"special interests" usually indicate corporate interests.
Only in your mind.
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Pharmaceutical and Oil companies in the pockes of leaders has led to a lot of problems (ie. legallizing medicinal cannabis, moving to clean energy). Somehow I don't think we have to worry about dangerous legislation in favor of the Oprah Windrey show.
So it's only "special interests" if it's business/Conservative, talk about the typical liberal "double standard" :D
All the lefties supporting Obama have their own "special interests" thats who gave Obama 35 million dollars (so far)
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Originally Posted by MistaGanja
Nah. I hope people vote republican.
If this is refering to ron paul okay thats fine but say ron paul not republican. Use his name not some shitty group he is unfortunately apart of.
Why Oprah Won't Help Obama
"Why Oprah Won't Help Obama".........guess I missed the link to Ron Paul. And people wonder why his supporters are considered spammers.:rolleyes:
Have a good one!:s4:
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Originally Posted by Ozarks
Only in your mind.
My mind only sees real things, like orcs and elves and hobbits:stoned:
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So it's only "special interests" if it's business/Conservative, talk about the typical liberal "double standard" :D
I'm hardly a hardcore lefty or anti-conservative (I vote conservative here btw). Pretty much my entire (extended) family is conservative in fact. I take ideologies from both sides and try to figure out the rest, personally.
I would have thought conservatives and liberals alike would agree that corporations in political pockets is a problem. Hollywood, evengelical Christians, and many more influence political ideologies. That's inevitable and representative of the population. Corporate sponsorship is far more problematic as their motivations aren't about left/right values, they're about profitting off biased legislation that affects workers, economy, environment, and free market.
You don't think right-wing/religious public figures are influencing votes the other way?
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All the lefties supporting Obama have their own "special interests" thats who gave Obama 35 million dollars (so far)
What do you call "special interests" then? Millions of supporters donating their funds? Corporations? churches? Atlantians on a hidden island? Just the fact that money has been risen isn't necessarily pandering to special interests, unless you want to expand the term to anybody who supports their political ideology; and that covers fundraising for any politician.
So far all I see here is complaining that Obama supporters are publicly supporting Obama. Good God.... I'm much more worried about them taking payouts from corporations, political extremist groups, foreign governments, paramilitary organizations etc. Groups who's power, and competition, will be directly affected by government legislation, not just lefties getting their lefty legislation by their lefty governments (and vice versa).
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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
Corporate sponsorship is far more problematic as their motivations aren't about left/right values, they're about profiting off biased legislation that affects workers, economy, environment, and free market.
ANY group that attempts to gain undue influence or favors through the backing of a candidate is a problem. every group has a right to representation - even the evil corporations, but when they seek to take control and make their concerns overshadow the needs of the majority they become the enemy. though big business is most often accused of buying politicians; religious and ethnic groups, foreign powers and others have all been guilty of this rather unamerican practice. the socialist agenda espoused by much of the entertainment industry, academia and the nouveau-left is one of those "others" that is attempting to gain undue influence through donations and coercion in opposition to the best interests of the people.
meanwhile-
i guess i'll just sit back, relax and watch the show as the socialist numbskulls and the religious right duke it out for totalitarian supremacy. it's folks like me that will pick up the best of what these idiots leave behind and cobble something workable together while they tear each other to shreds.
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Originally Posted by Ozarks
Only in your mind.
So it's only "special interests" if it's business/Conservative, talk about the typical liberal "double standard" :D
All the lefties supporting Obama have their own "special interests" thats who gave Obama 35 million dollars (so far)
This is downright silly and it vividly demonstrates one of the big problems with American politics today - many people have been reduced to childish name calling.
I've got news for you, life is a matter of give and take. Neither you nor I will ever have things 100% our own way. People of good character can disagree with others on principles, and fight in the political arena to see to it that people who represent their interests are elected to office. However, when the voting public is distracted with name calling and arguing over the precise definition of words, it allows the paid corporate whores to retain power because they are the only candidates on the ballot because you were too busy defending a bogus ideology to put any real effort into getting a decent person on the ballot to represent your interests and your viewpoints.
There is a very evil presence in our government - organizations and corporations whose only agenda are power and profit. This evil group is commonly referred to as "special interests". That is pretty much common knowledge. Diverting the discussion to a debate over the meaning of such a term is, well, silly.
I've never read any of your posts before, Ozarks. For all I know I may agree with you on many issues. All I'm saying is, this isn't a very good way to get your point across.
jmo
PC :smokin:
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
ANY group that attempts to gain undue influence or favors through the backing of a candidate is a problem.
EXACTLY!!:thumbsup:
Doesn't Oprah have a school for girls in South Africa? Sure would be nice to have someone in a top position in government just in case she needed a favor.
If you need influence of ANY sort its a "special interest".
Have a good one!:s4:
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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
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I would have thought conservatives and liberals alike would agree that corporations in political pockets is a problem.
The ones that break the law,yes, but you didn't say "corporate"
you said "special interests"
Left wing special interest
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evengelical Christians,
Right Wing Special interest
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Corporate sponsorship is far more problematic as their motivations aren't about left/right values, they're about profitting off biased legislation that affects workers, economy, environment, and free market.
Corporate sponsorship, Corporate interest & Special interest are 3 different phrases that mean 3 different things and are not inter-changeable terminologies.
"Special Interest is a term that the left in America has used to demonetize any one that they disagree with, Special interest is nothing more than Representative government.
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What do you call "special interests" then? Millions of supporters donating their funds? Corporations? churches?
Yes, anytime a group of people come together to affect Government that is "special interest"
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Just the fact that money has been risen isn't necessarily pandering to special interests,
I already know this, you are the one who apparently believes,
Special interest = bad.
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childish name calling.
I haven't called anyone any names
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There is a very evil presence in our government
Is anyone you disagree with "evil" ?:rolleyes:
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this evil group is commonly referred to as "special interests".
Only by the left, here I'll say it again.
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Corporate sponsorship, Corporate interest & Special interest are 3 different phrases that mean 3 different things and are not inter-changeable terminologies.
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I've never read any of your posts before, Ozarks. For all I know I may agree with you on many issues. All I'm saying is, this isn't a very good way to get your point across.
Perhaps you don't understand that words have meanings, & their meanings matter.
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Why the fuck would anyone in their right mind wishing to gain popularity want to be in any way associated with that dreadful woman?
Vote for me! I WATCH The Opray Winfrey Show is a sure fire vote loser in itself.
Anyway I reckon she is just miffed that the first black president of America, if he wins, isn't going to be Luther Vandross.
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Originally Posted by Ozarks
Perhaps you don't understand that words have meanings, & their meanings matter.
As an English language teacher, I think I have that concept pretty well in hand.
Anyhoo - I drop into this section occasionally to comment on matters of interest and to share views and viewpoints with others, not to parse sentences with ideologues who can't see the forest for the trees.
You have a great day!!!
PC :smokin:
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Why the fuck would anyone in their right mind wishing to gain popularity want to be in any way associated with that dreadful woman?
oprah IS the anti-christ. with great evil comes the possibility of great power.
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lol P4B what is their agenda?
Also, I don't understand how ANYONE can think Oprah Winfrey's support would be COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
Do you not really understand just how powerful this woman is? I'm pretty sure she's up there for the Forbes richest people in the world for women, top 10 I think. She's powerful. People listen to her. This will help.
