Plant problems..got pictures

I got 4 clones from a cannabis club...they were kinda the best they had for the money i had. They all came in this little sponge thing so i put them immediatly with the sponge and all into a 3 gal bag with soil...i kept them in the sponge though i just watered it before i put it in the soil. The leaves and most of them look burnt and some are curled under and some are curled up. They are under a 150 watt light right now with a circulating fan. I think after i put them in the dark for 8 hours or so i am gonna try putting them under my 600 watt in my closet. So my question is, is there anything i can do to help them? Should i start giving them nutrients or would that be to traumatizing for the state they are in. And can i still get something from them or are they done?

When a cutting is taken, it as no roots. Until it grows roots, it has to get nutrition from somewhere, so it eats itself. That is the damage you see to the leaves and it is perfectly natural.

Don't ever mess with that sponge thingy. It is a rapid rooter and it contains your roots. Removing it will kill your plant.

Raise your 150w light to about 12" - 18" above the plant for the first few days. When you start seeing new growth, gradually lower the light. After about a week the plants should be ok under the MH.

Give them B-1 for the first few days. When you start to see some new growth, start them on 1/4 nutes. From then on you just need to judge for yourself if you should up our nutes or not. I prefer to be conservative with the small plants and give them as much time as they need to get a healthy start. It pays off in the end 'cuz you end up with a heartier plant.

Clones at your stage of growth tend to just kinda idle for a few days, then get a little bit of new growth, then take off like gangbusters.

Enjoy your grow!!

PC :smokin:

nice thanks. But what about watering? Since they are in the sponge its not like i can just check to see if the soil is dry or damp like i normally would be able to. And should i not water as much since the sponge soaks up so much of it?

Sounds like you needed to do some more research BEFORE bringing plants home.
What type of soil is that? Does it have fertilizer in it already? Those cuts look scorched.
You need to water your clones well. The plug will equilibrate to the same moisture content as the surrounding soil.

cuttings need a lot of water (as long as they get some o2 in the soil as well)

for nest time, seeds are probly cheaper and slightly easier to get started (though you dont have the same genetic guarentees of a good clone.

flush it with water to dampen it and get any excess nutes out of the soil. besides that, clones are typically unhealth looking for a few days

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Originally Posted by klondike_bar

cuttings need a lot of water (

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Oh really? And just exactly what the fuck are they going to do with that water, seeing as how they have no roots?

PC :smokin:

thanks for all the replies guys. I have them in fox farm pottin soil. they are starting to look a bit greener now and less droopy so hopefully with good watering, air cirulation and in a little bit some good nutrients, i can have them looking good.

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

Oh really? And just exactly what the fuck are they going to do with that water, seeing as how they have no roots?

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great to see im your idol :thumbsup:

the cuttings will have new roots growing on them and those roots are gonna be wanting some water.

water +co2 = happy, hydrated plant w/ new growth

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Originally Posted by klondike_bar

great to see im your idol :thumbsup:

the cuttings will have new roots growing on them and those roots are gonna be wanting some water.

water +co2 = happy, hydrated plant w/ new growth

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I've made thousands of clones. How many have you made? (Let me help you with some synonyms for your answer: ZERO, ZIP, NONE.) Here's another question for you; How many grams of smokable mj have you grown in your lifetime? (You can choose from the same word list.) Jeez, why don't you just give it a rest and learn something about growing before you go around giving bogus "advice" on every single thread that comes along.

FYI - A cutting, by definition, has no roots. Once it grows roots, it is no longer a cutting, it's a clone.

PC :smokin:

lol so when should i start watering then?

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Originally Posted by kyolic

lol so when should i start watering then?

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Yesterday :thumbsup:

I thought that was clear. Sorry about the tiff on your thread, but that guy irritates me with all the bogus BS he posts. Your plants are fragile right now and one wrong move can kill them - a fact he seems to care nothing about.

I don't grow in soil, I grow in coco, so I don't know what to tell you about how to water your clones. But I'd get some water around them ASAP. Water lightly for 2"-3" around the clone, so that the roots have something to chase after, then answer Stinky's questions and hope she gets back to you 'cuz you couldn't ask for a better tutor than her.

PC :smokin:

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Originally Posted by klondike_bar

water +co2 = happy, hydrated plant w/ new growth

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No, the root zone needs O2, not CO2.

I really enjoy coming on here in the morning and having to spend all this time cleaning up after these little messes. In fact, I enjoy it so much that I might take a vacation... or, more efficiently, send you on one. I've got better shit to do than follow a nOOb around correcting bad info AFTER I have already asked said noob several times to LEARN FIRST AND TEACH LATER.

There has only been one ban in for posting misinformation around here as far as I know... I'm wondering whether making it two would make my life a little easier.

I have to wonder if it is the same person.....I'm sure you have checked. But the subtle maliciousness involved strikes me as being exactly the same.

roots need o2 yes, but the plant itself needs carbon to grow, and that is provided by the co2 in the atmosphere. and if your trying to argue, my first post actually said "need a lot of water (as long as they get some o2 in the soil as well)". cuttings will quickly develop roots if they have any hopes of growing, and will need a plentiful supply of water when that moment arrives.

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Originally Posted by klondike_bar

roots need o2 yes, but the plant itself needs carbon to grow, and that is provided by the co2 in the atmosphere. and if your trying to argue, my first post actually said "need a lot of water (as long as they get some o2 in the soil as well)". cuttings will quickly develop roots if they have any hopes of growing, and will need a plentiful supply of water when that moment arrives.

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Again more misinformation.

The new roots don't need a plentiful supply of water, they need a modest supply of water, slightly moist conditions, when they first start out.

Jeez, Stinky, just ban this friggin troll - for life. And block his IP address. This is just BS trolling and he knows he's on his last day here so now he's stalking you and arguing with you. A slap on the wrist isn't going to make him less of a troll. Off with his head, I say!! (We need a guillotine emoticon. :D )

PC :mad:

I dont think the guy needs to be banned i just think he should stop trying to help everyone until he really has alot of experience along with the stuff he reads. It seems like he really tries to help but he just doesnt know as much as he think he knows.

Whatever though just dont bash me because i think the guy should be spared. I'm not trying to take sides it just seems like he wants to help and i'm sure he'd help alot more if he knew more!

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Originally Posted by GDS StonerBoy

I dont think the guy needs to be banned i just think he should stop trying to help everyone until he really has alot of experience along with the stuff he reads. It seems like he really tries to help but he just doesnt know as much as he think he knows.

Whatever though just dont bash me because i think the guy should be spared. I'm not trying to take sides it just seems like he wants to help and i'm sure he'd help alot more if he knew more!

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Great - Then you can take the time to correct all of his misinformation until he learns. He makes more posts than anyone else on this forum, almost all of it misinformation, so be prepared to put a lot of time and effort into this chore. Be sure to stay on top of your duties, people's grows are depending on you.

Check back in a couple weeks and let us know if you are still feeling so charitable. :thumbsup:

PC:smokin:

ya know this is actually a funny topic. I know that I have read quite a few different grow logs and guides since I have started. It seems like everyone that I read is different. Some people say this is the way and others say that is the way. Some are wrong some are right.

I know I was misinformed until I started here on Cannabis. Maybe he is getting others ideas mixed up with the actual way to grow. Or maybe even the whole water thing is a cross between hydro and soil. Don't know how but ya never know.

So I personally think 1 of 2 things are happening.

1.) He is just trying to get post up to say "hey I have 5,000 posts".

or

2.) He is trying to help with information that he learned that was wrong.

I know my first though of growing was different until I compared grow guides and asked ALOT of questions. Alot of people misinformed me of the proper way to do things and others were nothing but helpful.

So, I know that I like to help people but I also like to be corrected when I make a mistake.


Klondike_bar where did you learn how to grow? Just curious not bashing you.

I just seen this on your name Stinkyattic. Thought it was cool
CultiModerVatorAtor.....I like it

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

Check back in a couple weeks and let us know if you are still feeling so charitable. :thumbsup:

PC:smokin:

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Very well put PC...

MVP :pimp:

Klondike; to argue with these folks is a great injustice to your own crops. Keep that in mind when you're wondering why a good yielder gave you a joint.;)

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

Great - Then you can take the time to correct all of his misinformation until he learns. He makes more posts than anyone else on this forum, almost all of it misinformation, so be prepared to put a lot of time and effort into this chore. Be sure to stay on top of your duties, people's grows are depending on you.

Check back in a couple weeks and let us know if you are still feeling so charitable. :thumbsup:

PC:smokin:

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Thats kinda what im saying! He makes more posts than anyone on this forum, so if he knew what he was talking about he'd help alot of people that dont get as much help because there question just didnt suit you or others.

I dont want to argue with you because you have been a great help to me and others, so i'm no longer trying to help klondike because i can see that soon i'll start getting bashed for his mistakes. I just think he should stop making all those post until he actually knows what he's talking about. Some people just like to help and we need more people in the world like that. I personally would like to help as well but i understand i have lots and lots to learn so i wont help until i do so.

I think Klondike should do the same but if he continues to make tons of post everyday misleading folks then i guess he shouldnt be spared.