I am going to post a separate thred to explane situation. To much of a pain in the ass to do this from a cell phone.
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I am going to post a separate thred to explane situation. To much of a pain in the ass to do this from a cell phone.
Ok now I am on a real keyboard.
I am ruuning this thred to get advice and to let others see my grow.
History: I have done Indoor grows way in the past before genetics were easily available I did have decent results with bag seed back then, but this is my first serious grow indoors.
Setup: The grow box is 4'x4'x7'h, I am currently using 1-600watt MH on a digital ballast and 1-175watt MH standard ballast. I have 2-90cfm inline exaust fans going into can carbon filters, 3-4" intake holes in the bottom w/ 4" dryer hose painted flat black on the inside to prevent light leaks from the cabinet. and a 12" occilating fan.
Plants: 10-White Widow and 5 Mystery seeds that came with the w/w. 3 of the 5 mystery seeds are sativa dominate and are in the back of the cabinet and are very hard to control. I have been doing LST since they were 4" tall untill last Friday, since then they have been free to go vertically. Current plant hight is 1 w/w runt 6" tall, 9- w/w 8" to 10" tall, 3 sativa 12" tall. My babies are in 2 gallon buckets but are going to be transplanted tomarrow and have one more week to recover and veg under 24/0 light for one more week, then it is flower time!
Soil and nutes: They are in Mirical Grow Moisture Control with 2 cups Vermaculite per bucket ( I Know I did not use the good stuff! (I could not afford it my First Grow). My water mix is 1 tbls. vinagar, 2 tbls hydrogen peroxide, 4 tbls fox farm big bloom to 1 gallon water. Why vinagar? my tap water is around 6.8 to 7.0 Ph, plus Mirical grow soil is pre-nuted between those 2 things I need to do that to keep the ph at a constant 6.5Ph in the soil. Started to have nute lock once already before I started to use Fox Farm.
Next step: Re-pot Tomarrow, Veg 1 more Week, start flower next Friday.
Forgot one thing!
Goal of this grow 1lb of cured buds. I dont know if that is high or maybe low only time will tell. plus one or 2 mothers for clones.
looks awsome so far. very healthy looking.
nice forest, Jerry. Looking great.
Shovelhandle
Thanks,
Just got back from a 5 gallon bucket hunt. Home depot wanted $5.00 each I refuse to pay close too $80.00 for buckets.
So I went to a construction site and went dumpster diving while doing that one of the workers came out and saw what I was doing and said you don't need to do that and took me inside to an area. Low and behold about 25 washed out buckets and he said hellp your self just leave me a few. So I grabed 18 of them for free.
So all I have to is sterilize them.
looks like a good day.
Free buckets??? Bonus Points!!!
I spent $1 ea for my 12 QT (3 gallon) buckets. Pretty chinzcy though, may not last more than one or two grows. I have plenty of 5 gallon buckets but with the number of plants that went fem this grow, I don't have room for anything but the 3 gallons.
Sho
I fogot to put thin in the last post.
He did ask me what I needed them for and I told him I paint them and put sand I'm them and place Christmas decorations in them. That's when he offered the ones inside. EARLY CHRISTMAS I Guess.
After reading a thred that I had running in indoor growing forum I decided to hold off on re-potting today,it is not as urgent as I thought.
New plan: Today is the start of week 7 so I took out the 600w MH and put in the 600w HPS, installed the timer and set to 12/12. TIME TO FLOWER!!!!!!!
Why the change? My plants are not suffering yet, so put them in flower now remove males in 2 weeks then re-pot, save cost on soil by not repotting males.
I rotated plants today so here are more pics.
He did ask me what I needed them for and I told him I paint them and put sand I'm them and place Christmas decorations in them. That's when he offered the ones inside.
wow, quick on yer feet there. <G>
Your plants look plenty big enough to flower, man.
Shov
No, I already thought about it when I decided to go dumpster diving. Thought it was pretty good though.
lookin good man keep it up
I forgot to close the windows when the light went out, box got down to 54f this morning. Was only for 2 hours.
It is back up to 65 now.
I need to look up temp ranges and come up with a failsafe system to prevent this from happening outside air is my cooling when lights on.
Any ideas !!
nice looking grow...keep it up :thumbsup:
awsome grow
Just got out my loupe and took a look.
So FAR THE FEMALES HAVE IT!!!!
7 confirmed females
3 confirmed males
5 n/s 2 leaning female 3 leaning male
That is a possible 9 females out of 15!!!
I will check again tomarrow.
9 for 15 would be pretty decent.
As far as the cool temps, pot puts up with lots of dips in temp up my way (outdoor grows the temps often go sub 40s or cooler in the Spring and again in Autumn.). It never seemed to bother them a bit. 54ยบ f isn't really that cold.
PS there are tropical strains of pot tht will not tolerate cold as well as afghani indicas. for example.
Shovelhandle
Yeh kinda freeked out when I woke up and saw that. I knew it wouldn't kill them, more worried about shock.
Going from nice warm environment 24hours of light no worries in the world, then bammm!!! 100% darkness, cold as hell, my hormones are raging WTF HAPPENED!!! do I go male do I female or do I go down the middle.
I doubt it hert them if anything I read is below 60 they stop growing.
The Good thing is I am 2 to 3 days away from more room to let my babies strech out and get that precious light to those little budlings below.
Here are some pics of my 9 confirmed little girl's at puberty, plus one that I am not 100% positive on yet I am leaning to male unfortunatly, so he gets one more day of good light. The boys have been removed to the closet under my 175 mh just to make sure they have balls. I do want to save one to collect some pollon probably put him in the basement.
So the count is 5 w/w girls out of 10, and get this 4 out of 5 of the mystery seed are female.
Wow man, BIG n' LUSH!
My present grow is four varieties and I got 8 fems, 1 male out of nine plants. That's the best odds I ever remember for that many plants.
I will try and duplicate my efforts next time. That's why I believe that having a log sheet is good.
Shovl
I like the way you grow.
Got home today and fed my girls they look great, twice as many hairs today and starting to be able to see the pistils with the naked eye.
Then I decided to check in on the cloans that I started so I could check the sex of my plants ( long story explane why later ).
5 cloans have rooted I then checked which plants they came from and all are females 3 mystery seed and 2 w/w
So now I have to kick the males out of the closet and set up my nursery with my 175 MH. I am thinking of growing a few monsters with these. with an 8 to 9 week veg.
I will post some pics later.
It has been awhile since I left an update.
Well all the girls are in 5 gallon buckets and loving the new space, the root balls used every bit of space in the buckets should have transplanted 2 weeks earlier I think.
this is day 11 of flowering they have grown about 8 to 12 inches in that time.
So what you think? Good or bad welcomed.
cant wait 2 c them in a few weeks theres going 2 b alot of buds in there:thumbsup:
Well here are some pics for you I got while I was pruning and rotating today. Also one of my clones that came from my attempt at sexing. 1 per female except one that didn't make it. Luckly it was one of the smaller ones.
I also put 8 seeds in a paper towel today of THC bomb, thease and the best mothers from this crop of clones are my next going to be my next crop.
Well let me know if you see something I need to do to improve my grow
Thanks
Looking very good there JG2007. Will be interesting to see them in bud.
From what I see and have read you are doing a great job dont change anything unless you have to.:rasta::rastasmoke::smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
Wow what a day can do. Flowers look like their kicking into high gear. white pistol's are starting to flow from all the little budlets.
I do have a clone question.
When you clone for sexing but want to grow them into mother's or next crop.
Do you need to cut off the tiny flowers?
MVP has done a clone log
http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...-kush-mom.html
Don't really know if it covers your question. I have always cloned prior to flowering. So the first time when it was beanlings I took all the clones labeled them as to which plant they came from & then when I flowered the plants tossed all the male clones. I didn't keep those for mothers as I didn't have spcae but I then took clones from them at my friends who I gave them to & kept those from mothers.
We did once have a broken branch during flowering which my friend trimmed and tried as a clone. Didn't take the flowers of & it did seem to take a while to get going compared to the others. It also never came to much.
Again though read MVP's log as there will probaly be more there.
Great thread !!
Thank you,
Didn't quite answer my question though. I figure it will have the same effect as topping. And possibly stop the flowering hormone, they have rooted very well but new growth is so so. they have been under 24/0 for 2 weeks.
Glad it was a good read for you JG2007, haven't fully read it myself so wasn't sure it covered what you were after. There is quite a few topics on here discussing cloning have you tried using the search box just type in clones you sould get quite a few back.
Most I have read don't recommend cloning during flowering. You could also try what Arjan suggested at a grow seminar attended. You could carry on flowering the plants you have. When your harvesting only cut off the bud's and there branches so you can reveg the plant. I understand re veg's can take a while but even if you were to do it untill you got some nice new shoots in veg state you could then clone those.
Well I have 2 clones with flowers so I decided to top one and see what happens. Might as well run an experiment for future knowledge.
I will keep you updated.
Jerry, I'm not a clone pro, But I recently got a clone that was well into flowering, besides taking about 2 weeks to reveg, I left the flowers on, and they stayed around, The plant half ass grew Pistils about a week after it started to reveg, and then it just quit.
I think you will be okay if you leave some flower matter on there, as long as it does not cause you a molding problem.
Well I just started a new grow log for these cloans and some new seeds so only time will tell how it goes. Thank you for the help.
Well there looking goooood!!!
Going to post more in a few minutes.
Well a lot has grown since last update. I did do a heavy pruning to expose the buds to light, They seem to be enjoying it. I did remove all the small growth on the bottoms and had a bunch of small branches that didn't have flowers or very tiny flowers and decided to make clones out of them. I ended up with 43 clones in rockwool.
Has anyone taken clones this late in flower but from the bottom where they are small branches 3 to 6 inches long and may have tiny buds on them? If so what was your success at it?
If they come out I got to think about what to do with them. i 'm thinking a quick sog grow no lst.
What you think?
that's rich lookin, man!
Shovel
JG thats some nice flowering you've got going on there are you using any flowering boosters?
Nice toping or FIM on pic 2. I'm not sure about the pruning the info on here is mainly against or contradictory. But it depends because I believe that is mainly on pruning large fan leaves of branches with bud. I have seen elsewhere some pruning techniques especially for when outside so the main branches are above average vermin height. Also saw a known grower going on about his curing techniques which involved no manicuring. However on his video's about 1 - 2 weeks before the end he trims all the leaves of the bud branches. Will be interested in seeing how it develops.
As for flower boosters my watering mix is:
1 good glop backstrap mollasses = 1 1/2 to 2 Tbls.
3 Tbls hydogen peroxide
1/4 tsp. Jacks 12/36/14 with trace minerals
1 Tbls vinagar.
to 1 gallon water.
Watering is 72 ozs every 4 to 5 days currently, I put 2/3 on top and 1/3 in the bottom, again due to the amount of coco in
the soil it is like a sponge so watering from
the top and bottom make for a nice even distribution of waster.
The vinagar is to counter any ph rise in my soil. I am using MG moisture control, the soil stays a constant 6.5 by doing this.
How I got them to grow like this is strikly by LST. never topped a single plant or branch.
I learned most of this stuff in here.
Cheers for the info on the mix I will need to read up on the stuff you use. At the moment I use comercial products Cannaboost & PK 13/14.
Very cool then for pic 2 to be an LST job it looks very similar to the crowning effect I got on my last clones with FIM.