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11-13-2007, 11:15 PM
psychocat

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I can't believe how lenient the Brit judiciary is becoming.
A few years ago a few of my mates were in the city when 3 local thugs armed with knives thought they could get away with robbing them, my friends fought back and one of my mates took a knife off one of the muggers.
In the skuffle that followed my best mate ended up stabbing one of the muggers, the mugger died but my mate got sent down for 2 years.I don't think he should even have been charged ,, it was pure self defence.
I can't believe a man who was only (IMO) defending himself gets two years and then you have this bitch who killed a child and she only gets 3 . WTF ???

Childminder gets three years for killing baby | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited

She should be well recieved in prison at least, the cons love this type of shit, it gives them something to take thier aggresion out on.
I would like to see a return to hanging m'lud. :thumbsup:
11-14-2007, 04:11 AM
mfqr

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Originally Posted by psychocat

I can't believe how lenient the Brit judiciary is becoming.
A few years ago a few of my mates were in the city when 3 local thugs armed with knives thought they could get away with robbing them, my friends fought back and one of my mates took a knife off one of the muggers.
In the skuffle that followed my best mate ended up stabbing one of the muggers, the mugger died but my mate got sent down for 2 years.I don't think he should even have been charged ,, it was pure self defence.
I can't believe a man who was only (IMO) defending himself gets two years and then you have this bitch who killed a child and she only gets 3 . WTF ???

Childminder gets three years for killing baby | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited

She should be well recieved in prison at least, the cons love this type of shit, it gives them something to take thier aggresion out on.
I would like to see a return to hanging m'lud. :thumbsup:

Man, that's pretty messed up, psychocat. Sad to hear that your friend went to prison for 2 years for defending his own life, and others'. But I do think that someone who kills a child should be put to death... I guess. What reason does anyone have to kill a child anyway? People who do that are obviously fucked up mentally, and probably don't belong here. That's my opinion, at least.

I didn't vote though. That's because I'm not sure what a "clear cut case" is.
11-14-2007, 04:27 AM
chronicnhash

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yeah its pretty stupid like that here to,(canada) you can break into someones house steal all their shit rape their family but if the person who owns the house tries to do anything they get charged to like your buddy which is pure bullshit
11-14-2007, 11:16 AM
Reefer Rogue

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Bring it back. If people threaten my life, i'll take theirs faster if i can. Peodophiles deserve to die as do murderers.
11-14-2007, 04:38 PM
DaBudhaStank

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i dont believe in the death penalty for anything. NO ONE deserves to die, no matter the crime. let them rot in prison for the rest of their lives, thats a whole hell of a lot worse than a merciful execution. we just need to get drug addicts and people who commit petty crimes out of jail, that way we have more room for the really fucked up people. and yeah it sucks about your friend man, thats some bullshit, though i have to admit i dont know what that has to do with the death penalty....
11-14-2007, 08:50 PM
BYAH

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im so glad to live in the US where the second amendment(right to bear arms) backs me up all day, and me and dad take full advantage of it. But that sucks about your bro dude, if i were u i would go for an appeal, because if it was true self defense he shouldnt have gotten anything. Unless your mate went a little over board or did he just stab once and they guy died?
11-14-2007, 11:02 PM
psychocat

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Originally Posted by DaBudhaStank

i dont believe in the death penalty for anything. NO ONE deserves to die, no matter the crime. let them rot in prison for the rest of their lives, thats a whole hell of a lot worse than a merciful execution. we just need to get drug addicts and people who commit petty crimes out of jail, that way we have more room for the really fucked up people. and yeah it sucks about your friend man, thats some bullshit, though i have to admit i dont know what that has to do with the death penalty....

Prisoners in the UK are pampered fuckers, they should be doing hard labour not sitting pretty with a better life than a lot of families on the breadline. I blame the stupid bastards who voted for the human rights act . My mate did his time around the same time I did mine, back in the early 80's and nick (as we call prison) was a tough ride and more of a punishment.
You had the chances to learn when you were down but it wasn't the cakewalk it is now.

I told about my friend to show the insanity of the sentence the woman who killed a child got. How can they send down my friend for two years for defending himself and then this bitch gets off so lightly for the murder of a defenseless child ?

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Originally Posted by BYAH

But that sucks about your bro dude, if i were u i would go for an appeal, because if it was true self defense he shouldnt have gotten anything. Unless your mate went a little over board or did he just stab once and they guy died?

He's already done his time and he's pretty philosophical about it, he says he possibly could of done things differently but things went the way they did.
When the skuffle broke out he was pretty much running on survival instinct a(He doesn't like to talk about it), but he said it happened so fast and it was a bit of a blur but the mugger died from a single wound.
I've known him a lot of years and he's a lot more peaceful person than I am and he wouldn't ever have done it deliberately , I think fear and his survival instinct were responsible for him reacting with any kind of violence.
I feel sorry for the muggers family but he did bring it on himself
11-15-2007, 01:28 AM
snowblind

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if we were to all take an eye for an eye, we would all be blind.

i think the uk law is one of the best in the world. but it is often subject to so many rushed polices and knee jerked reactions due to 'the angry mob' that it often results in policies that are easily exploited, lenient and non sensical. whilst often the well thought out and radical changes take too long or are not part of the party polical agenda to get passed.

i think the right to defend yourself is one that britain needs, but would always come under scruitiney as it is an easy card to pull. however in the case and the particular incidents relating to your freinds case something does need to be done.

i am reminded of the kids that broke into the farmers house who ended up getting shot. to show the irony that the law often protects those who have no care or disregard for it.

the flip side to this is that no matter the circumstances, can taking someones life ever go unpunished. is it just a line that no matter what the circumstances, once crossed is worthy of retribution?

however i do not belive in the death penalty. i think though that a three strikes ruling should be implemented for the under 25's for crimes under murder and rape that causes them to be drafted.

i think however the right to bare arms under a constitution is wrong and am glad this country has the right agenda on that.
11-15-2007, 07:35 AM
moorephened

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Here in Florida we go one step further than the rest of the states, we have a "Shoot First" self-defense law which permits civillians to use deadly force in their defense if they feel as if their life is in immeadiate danger.

You don't even have to be attacked.
11-15-2007, 08:23 AM
Reefer Rogue

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My preference to live will always trump my enemies preference to take my life. Therefore, i believe i am justified in taking someone's life if they attempt to take mine. If someone murders another, they do not deserve to live anymore, as they are not capable of being a rational human being. "Their human rights" They chose to disregard the rights of others and thus, deserve none, they forfeit them. I advocate death because why should i be forced to share the earth with these scum? These evil doers. They do not contribute to society, they do not wish to live in peace. Why whould I and all the other tax payers, PAY for them to LIVE after they have KILLED? I defend self defence to the death. Unprovoked attacks and assaults i condone continuously. If the law actually did sentence them to life, as it should be, the rest of their lives, then i would accept that. In reality, that doesn't happen, they are out in a number of years, not even close in resemblance to their life. Justice is not being done for the victims. An eye for an eye does not make the world go blind, the murderers and peodaphiles who rip out our eyes do the job.
11-15-2007, 07:15 PM
psychocat

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Prison Porn by Theodore Dalrymple, City Journal Winter 2003

This is insanity in it's purest form.
Strip all prisoners of this kind of pampering and make them do hard time.
11-15-2007, 11:04 PM
snowblind

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Originally Posted by moorephened

Here in Florida we go one step further than the rest of the states, we have a "Shoot First" self-defense law which permits civillians to use deadly force in their defense if they feel as if their life is in immeadiate danger.

You don't even have to be attacked.

which is retarded
11-16-2007, 12:45 AM
FatSak420

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

My preference to live will always trump my enemies preference to take my life. Therefore, i believe i am justified in taking someone's life if they attempt to take mine. If someone murders another, they do not deserve to live anymore, as they are not capable of being a rational human being. "Their human rights" They chose to disregard the rights of others and thus, deserve none, they forfeit them. I advocate death because why should i be forced to share the earth with these scum? These evil doers. They do not contribute to society, they do not wish to live in peace. Why whould I and all the other tax payers, PAY for them to LIVE after they have KILLED? I defend self defence to the death. Unprovoked attacks and assaults i condone continuously. If the law actually did sentence them to life, as it should be, the rest of their lives, then i would accept that. In reality, that doesn't happen, they are out in a number of years, not even close in resemblance to their life. Justice is not being done for the victims. An eye for an eye does not make the world go blind, the murderers and peodaphiles who rip out our eyes do the job.

Actually the death penalty costs tax payers more than life in prison because of all of the legal fees involved in capital punishment and because most convicts are too poor to pay for their own attorney. Also is capital punishment just if even one innocent person is wrongly convicted and sentenced to death? But dont get me wrong i'm all for homicide in self defense.
11-16-2007, 12:56 AM
psychocat

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I'm not advocating the death penalty be given automaticaly , however there have been certain cases in recent years that have been proven so profoundly that there is no element of doubt whatsoever and in these cases the death penalty should apply.
11-16-2007, 01:21 AM
meatw4d

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Originally Posted by snowblind

if we were to all take an eye for an eye, we would all be blind.

:wtf:

wtf are you talking about

if you never wronged anybody, you'd have nothing to worry about
11-16-2007, 01:36 AM
snowblind

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the point is we have all at somepoint in our lives, to some extend wronged someone.

maybe not to the extent of murdering/raping/molesting their children. but to a certain extent
11-16-2007, 08:28 PM
Reefer Rogue

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Originally Posted by FatSak420

Actually the death penalty costs tax payers more than life in prison because of all of the legal fees involved in capital punishment and because most convicts are too poor to pay for their own attorney. Also is capital punishment just if even one innocent person is wrongly convicted and sentenced to death? But dont get me wrong i'm all for homicide in self defense.

The elimination of these evil people from society to make it a safer place is priceless.