YouTube - Rep. Ron Paul meets a medical marijuana patient--Nov. 9 2007
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I am a Canadian, but if I was an american, I would vote for this guy, I've seen nothing but great things from him.
Yeah buddy. If he does not get elected, my wife and I are going to consider moving to Canada.
Ron Paul is the MAN.
This isn't going to sound right, but you'll enjoy it here in Canada. I have been to many countries, and Canada wins by a long shot, I'm very glad I have it to call home. Very very lucky indeed.
And also when there's something wrong with you, you can go to the doctor without having to worry about getting sued if you can't afford health insurance :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by DurbanStone
well hes not getting elected, so id start considering brosef unless you are really that naive, but that is impossibleQuote:
Originally Posted by angry nomad
i still hope he gets elected. even if it is a long shot its something to hope for
My roommate is a huge supporter of Ron Paul. I've kinda gotten interested in what he has to stand for myself. It's way too early to tell who I support though. Definitely not Clinton though.
every day he makes more and more sense
I'm thinking about taking a vacation trip to Vancouver next year, not sure if I could ever get myself to move though, I love So Cal and our weather too much, but I'd at least like to check it outQuote:
Originally Posted by DurbanStone
Yes, and have to wait a long time for poor service. Universal health care would greatly lower the quality of health care in the US. Plus, I'd like to see where you could get the money for all the expensive treatment. Canada seems like a really cool place from what everyone has told me, but I dislike the vastly liberal policies. I want to be able to keep my own money and make my own decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markass
this guy is not going anywhere in office. Hes like all the others all talk, we all know everything hes saying and yet most dont care. Unless he organizes a federal police to police the police, its all talk. Hes another bush, full of promises he will never keep. Personaly I tierd of they talk the all sound like truth loud boxes. Every one just turns the loud box down if they cant turn it off........................Taalk, Talk, Talk, its all talk, At least most of use smoking is a gesture to them saying fuck you.
Ron Paul has the most consistent record out of any US Rep.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadSativa
Hell yeah, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by DurbanStone
I support him all the way.
Only problem is he's probably not going to make it, I hope he does though.
I deny that he's another Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadSativa
Bush's cover up to be a complete douche bag was 9/11.. he was still a somewhat douche bag to begin with.
So you're saying that Ron Paul is going to do alright until something unexpected happens and he turns into another warmonger?
I'm not a warmonger by any means, but I fully understand the threat from radical islamist terrorists. They want to kill us ALL. Simply because we do not believe like they do.
Ron Paul scares the shit out of me on his National Security stance. I believe we need to stay on the offense on the war on terror, and not "bring the boys home." (Incidentally, two of those "boys" are my sons) And end up fighting the terrorists on our soil. Just MHO.
I rather be alive, and smoking pot, as a "criminal", without legalization. It sure as hell beats the alternative.
Right now, I don't have a clue as to who I'll vote for. But one thing I know for sure. It will NOT be Ron Paul.
Boy, did I open myself up for flaming THIS time. Gotta stay off the political boards, LOL...
REALITY = Ron Paul won't even come close to winning a single County, in the National election ... (thank God) ... :smokin:
That is true, Reaper. A vote for Paul would just be wasted. Vote for someone who will keep us from being killed by radical islamist terrorists. THAT is the main thing confronting us a s a people in this day and time.
Legalization will come eventually, however if we do not fight terrorism, we won't have the chance to enjoy it.
Listen to what you're saying. If we get a president who will end the war AND give us socialized medicine I think the 80 million a day going into iraq could be used to send some smart middle to lower class individuals through medical school who cannot afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyII
It works in canada...maybe cause they aren't dumping money into iraq??
I'm sorry, but are you implying that because we're in a war thousands upon thousands of miles away we're not ever going to be attacked by terrorists? Because they almost did at fort dix, and they almost did at jfk airport...but we stopped them...and oh yeah, did I mention it was on OUR soil? These poor fuckers don't have the resources to invade our country and fight us on our soil, because they haven't in thousands of years. They fucking hijacked motherfucking airplanes...after they learned to fly them in AMERICA..Then they used a flying bomb to destroy two towers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Stoner
Why? Because the ultimate tactic isn't attacking a country, it is making a country pour their money and resources and soldiers into a country, to waste them...all the while the country plumits, people despise the president, and economic desperity..
All for what? For tomorrow when three or four more little terrorists are born, and their parents begin to instill their values upon these children, just as they've done for thousands of years, practicing their religion freely.
It's okay to practice any religion you want, as long as it doesn't involve what they believe in, or anything to do with marijuana...?
what you're seeming to not grasp here is the fact that the same crazy bastards killing our troops over there are the same ones we're letting into our country every day, freely to get together with more of the same crazy motherfuckers in OUR country on OUR soil...
You cannot kill a religion and beliefs by killing people, it will always be written in whatever the fuck they have...caves or whatever. It'll be there, forever, and they will believe in it forever.
Half of the posts in this was about terrorism and Iraq so I moved it to politics. This now has NOTHING to do about Medical Marijuana news.:mad:
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
In short here's what Ron Pauls view on foreign policy is..
They don't attack us because of our freedoms or because we don't think like they do.. they attack us because we've been meddling around in the middle east for over 50 years. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years, we've set up bases in Saudi Arabia which they call Holy Land, we've been messing with them for a long time. The CIA calls this blowback, it's in the 9/11 commission report, michael scheuffer supports this position (head chief of CIA Bin Laden Unit).. and even bin laden gave scheuffer a shout out in his video (if you don't believe me on why we hate you, maybe you'll believe an America).
We can't go around the world doing what we want, trying to impose our will on others, without inciting hatred.. that is the main motivation for September 11th and terrorist attacks. What would we think if another country like China came over here and started doing this to us? We would try to fight. Why aren't terrorists attacking other free countries like France or something? C'mon... thinking they attack us because of our freedoms is extremely dangerous thinking and very ignorant. It is better if we just came home and protected.. they wouldn't have an incentive to attack us and we'd be a lot less likely to even be attacked.. and we can spend all that TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars here protecting ourselves, our borders and helping our people here at home instead of wasting it overseas trying to police the world and build an empire. It is the ONLY economically feasible policy and the only sane and feasible foreign policy. Think about it guys.. do some research. We're going broke, we have to borrow billions of dollars each day from China, Japan, etc just to fund the war.. Our national debt is 9 trillion+. The dollar is getting weaker and weaker and we're printing money out of thin air. This defective foreign policy is costing us lives, money and the sacrifice of civil liberties here at home. It doesn't make sense.
BTW, Ron Paul voted to go after the terrorists after 9/11.. but he was the first to say NO to Iraq. Like I said, he has the only sane foreign policy and anyone who believes otherwise is brainwashed by the media and hasn't done enough research to know the truth.
Paul wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by phx123
I liked Ron Paul's response to the patient.
Hello - Time for a reality check here. There is no "War on Terror". If there were a war on terror, our borders would protected.
Maybe there should be a war on terror, but right now there is not.
PC :smokin:
No, not what I am saying at all. They have tried, and so far in six years, THEY HAVE FAILED. Thousands have been arrested, stopped cold. Could be a LOT WORSE.Quote:
I'm sorry, but are you implying that because we're in a war thousands upon thousands of miles away we're not ever going to be attacked by terrorists?
Yep, Americans have gone soft. We cannot compare to the having the resolve of our forefathers. We had to go through YEARS of war just towhere we are today. However, if a World War started NOW, Americans wouldn't be able to handle it. WHY? Because we have gotten used to sitting on the couch and getting stoned. Or raising the kids. Or whatever. We have all become pussies (sorry for the French, but it's true).Quote:
Why? Because the ultimate tactic isn't attacking a country, it is making a country pour their money and resources and soldiers into a country, to waste them...all the while the country plumits, people despise the president, and economic desperity..
Even up against someone who, if they met you in a dark alley, would KILL YOU for NO REASON AT ALL, well, sorry, they do have a reason. It's just because they disagree with our way of life.
These folks ain't kidding. They want YOU dead. Believe it or not. You must KNOW who you are dealing with - terrorists know THEY must.
I guess if that happens, then my grandchildren will be fighting them. Just as my sons are now. Just as millions of other young men and women have done since day one. They keep "you" FREE. You needn't tell my family about war. We KNOW what is at stake.Quote:
All for what? For tomorrow when three or four more little terrorists are born, and their parents begin to instill their values upon these children, just as they've done for thousands of years, practicing their religion freely.
May I ask your age, Markass? Just wondering if that has something to do with it.
ROFLMAO, I am grasping that fact ENTIRELY. Home defense sucks, but it is getting better. I believe illegals should be deported immediately. My ancestors had to come through legally, but many others slide right through. How do YOU propose to stop illegal immigration?Quote:
what you're seeming to not grasp here is the fact that the same crazy bastards killing our troops over there are the same ones we're letting into our country every day, freely to get together with more of the same crazy motherfuckers in OUR country on OUR soil....
What YOU are failing to grasp is that it is NOT the religion with whom we are at war. We are at war with RADICALS WITHIN THAT RELIGION. Those radicals, whose use of God is to kill. Man, sounds like a great, peaceful section of the Muslim religion.Quote:
You cannot kill a religion and beliefs by killing people, it will always be written in whatever the fuck they have...caves or whatever. It'll be there, forever, and they will believe in it forever.
I am all for staying on the offense, which, apparently, some people cannot grasp that concept. Most never served a day in the military. So they have limited knowledge of that aspect, and of what we are up against.
Terrorism is the most pressing issue that faces America NOW. Ron Paul propses to pull ALL troops back inside the U.S. Let's "talk" to them. Ok, Ron, let's see if Osama will set you up with an appointment to visit with him. I sure he won't mind...
Osama still isn't wanted by the FBI because there is no hard evidence linking him with 9/11.
FBI says, "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11"
He's got a 25 million dollar bounty placed on his head by the FBI, for things he did prior to 9/11. FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitive - Usama Bin Laden
As far as "evidence": He was not there - but he freely admits to being responsible for it, in films and other media sources.
Actually, was he Osama?Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Expert Goes On Record: Bin Laden 9/11 Confession Is Bogus
Not trying to defend Osama, but I don't believe he was behind 9/11. In other interviews other than the tape that "he" confessed on (look at that link) he has claimed innocence and proclaims that attacking women and children is against Islamic Jihad law.
Close a damn 'nuff for me, Breukelen. Bin Laden has STATED in one of his infamous tapes that he was behind 9/11. I'll have to search to find the damned thing...
I hope the find him and bar-b-que his ass.
Anywho, this post has migrated from what Ron Paul said about Cannabis to the war and then to bin Laden.
That is why I hate political boards... Everyone has an opinion, and we ALL know what opinions are like...
Ron Paul is, IMHO, a direct threat to national security. Period. READ his website. Other than liberating us potsmokers (which HE couldn't do if he WERE the president - remember those group of folks called CONGRESS?), I don't see but a few things that I actually agree on with him, although I am more of a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.
Nope, Ron just won't fly with me. Nor Hillary, nor Osama Obama, nor Edwards (damned Jimmy Carter look/talk alike). Those four scare me. Bad.
STILL have not made up my mind. Researching the Libertarian candidate now.
Bullshit. Then WHY do they regularly kill innocent women and children daily in Iraq, and elsewhere?Quote:
In other interviews other than the tape that "he" confessed on (look at that link) he has claimed innocence and proclaims that attacking women and children is against Islamic Jihad law.
They (terrorists) will say anything when cornered. Yep, tha's what I'd do, believe a terrorist, who is KNOWN for the blatant disregard of women and children.
Hell, even the radical Islam they promote treat women like turds. Geez, some people never cease to amaze me...
Ron Paul was a guest on talk-radio 2 days ago ... he is as brainless and irresponsible, as anyone I have ever seen run for office ... anybody that would vote for that clown needs professional help ... end of rant :wtf:
Now "he" is "they"? Everyone is unique in their views, including militia-men (most non-biased term I could find).Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Stoner
Ron Paul is right on with his message. If the CIA would have never overthrown the Iranian government and enacted the Shah then we would probably have no problems with the Middle East, except for the US government's constant backing of everything Israel does. That term is called "blowback."
If someone raided my country and fucked shit up I know what I'd be doing...
All of this is because of Iran? The majority of the middle east has no time for Iran since they are the Shi-ite stronghold in the region.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyII
As far as the Israel thing......which country has been twisting Israels arm now for years to sit down and negotiate with the Palistinians? Everytime there is a bit of success though you have assclowns like Hamas stating that they will not negotiate with the Jews and then start launching rockets from the areas given back to them.
Ron Paul, like his partner Alex Jones, has NO TIME for Israel and if the truth was know I think it goes farther than that.
I know too.......you'd be on a web site stating on how it was all our own fault. After all, didn't the shit hit the fan AFTER 9-11?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyII
Have a good one!:s4:
"I know too.......you'd be on a web site stating on how it was all our own fault."
Don't put words in his mouth. He didn't say that. The point is we don't have to pretend that we are attacked by terrorists for our freedom. Do you think we're completely innocent? Or 9/11 was just cause we're free? Us being in the middle east, makes them hate us, period. And you'd be a fool to claim otherwise.
(Dont twist this the other way and act like Im saying we deserve it - WE don't. However the government's actions have been terrible, and soon (election), WE will have the power to change the situation.
We were attacked on 9-11 which is why we have troops there....what else is there to think?Quote:
Originally Posted by BathingApes
As for the freedom thing.......I replied to that in the other thread. NOT about that at all.
I didn't state that.......Ron Paul did in the debates. So now we are back to where this thread started.....the joys of Ron Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by BathingApes
Have a good one!:s4:
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me...15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens [http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2.../06/saudi.htm], Al-Queda was not welcome in Iraq under Saddam [http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0913-14.htm], so let's invade....Iraq!Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
No he didn't. Ever. He made the connection between our foreign policy and blowback (which by the way the CIA and the 9-11 commission agree with him about), but he has never said "we deserved it".Quote:
I didn't state that.......Ron Paul did in the debates.
Please, show me where he said it.
You know Thomas Jefferson said something very interesting, he told us to beware when the government takes your liberties/freedoms for security. This is exactly what our country has done for probably 100 years. The thing that blows me away is that Americans are satisfied with the government taking away their freedoms, we are too apathetic as a people. And Americans are too scared. Terrorists don't hate us because we're American, they hate us because our government has interfered in their countries. Another thing the founding fathers were adamant about is to trade with all countries but allign with none. If America is important to you you will vote Ron Paul, plain and simple. And if you don't know enough about him, read up. Everything he says is complete truth-and the proof is in the pudding, Paul has raised more money than ever imagined because his message is American.
CAIRO - The regime of Saddam Hussain rejected repeated requests from Jordan to hand over Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who now heads Al Qaeda in Iraq, the Jordanian king said in an interview published on Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fencewalker
King Abdullah II told the pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat that Jordan exerted ??big efforts? with Saddam??s government to extradite al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian sentenced to death at home for terrorist activities.
??But our demands that the former regime hand him over were in vain,? Abdullah said.
??We had information that he entered Iraq from a neighboring country, where he lived and what he was doing. We informed the Iraqi authorities about all this detailed information we had, but they didn??t respond,? the king said.
Khaleej Times Online - Saddam refused to hand Zarqawi to Jordan: King Abdullah
There was a connection not to mention the various other reasons mentioned earlier for invasion. As for the Saudi's.....Osama is too, what's the point? The Saudi government sure doesn't want the assclowns there.
Paul, who is more of a libertarian than a Republican, was trying to offer some perspective on the pitfalls of an interventionist policy by the American government in the affairs of the Middle East and other countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fencewalker
"Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years," he said.
Martin: Paul's 9/11 explanation deserves to be debated - CNN.com
"You Say Potato - I Say Potahtoe".......fact is he said MORE than enough! If that's not stating that we deserved a kick, it makes me wonder just how specific it has to be.
Have a good one!:s4: