Pollen life?

I'm about to harvest a plant but I'm thinking I'll leave one of the buds on hoping it will hermi and give me some seeds before it dies completely. I'm thinking if that works then I'll have to wash the cab down good with bleach so I don't fertilize later grows. The major hang-up with my dumb idea is that cab is in my closet and there's a fairly good chance any pollen might hang out in there and it'd be pretty much impossible to clean the whole place. So my question is, how long would pollen last? I figure it's gotta be less than a year anyway otherwise outdoor grows wouldn't go right. Or is my idea just stupid?

Hermie seeds produce
( ) left handed chickens
( ) right handed chickens
( ) hermie seeds
( ) a real unstable mess
(X) all the above except for chickens, thems need eggs, from a knocked up hen thats had a run in with a cock/rooster.

from what I have read pollen only lasts about a month or so. Could be longer could be less depending on environment. A good scrub down and a little wait should do the trick but a good scrub will be fine. By the time its flower time you should have no worries even if you didn't scrub anything unless you do a 3in grow. Ya know the 3 weeks veg and the flower thing. I just got this from what I have read. Still learning myself.

Damn, I wanted some chickens. Especially left handed ones. If I plant an egg sideways, maybe? Maybe planting chicken feathers'd do it.

maybe who knows you should try it. :)

I had been forcing male flowers on female plants for years, using either Gibrellic Acid spray, or aspirin treatments. ( Now-a-days, I use the GA for germinating seeds only)
Have not found either of these methods to 'cause' hermies in any of my later genetics at all.

IMHO, if a plant's genetics are already prone to hermie, (poor seed storage, over-breeding a strain, generations of poor growing/lighting conditions...) then it doesn't really make much difference. You'll possibly breed-in a certain number of hermie traits.

Is it not true that at the end of a unproductive season, the plant knows it has not been pollinated, so goes into emergency self-pollinating mode? Isn't this a genetically imprinted response, and shouldn't be seen as adversly altering the genetics of the seeds?

GL

so if thats right then every crop left for a second haverst would go hermie?

If you leave a bud or two and the lights are left 12/12, I think it's supposed to.

A few boy flowers wouldnt pollinate your next grow and if it did then it'll be just a few seeds, 4 mature boys can pollinate your next grow. The pollin from 4 boys will amaze you, you'd see a lot of pollin in the area...

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Originally Posted by smokenss

so if thats right then every crop left for a second haverst would go hermie?

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No. Since you revert the light back to 18/6 and change back to the veg ferts, it tricks the plant into thinking it somehow made it thru the winter, and is time to rock-n-roll again.
Keeping a close eye on them is a good idea, tho. Some strains don't do well in re-veg.

I hope I can get an answer out of you, or anyone else who used this method soon.

I have two "black queens" growing atm, and I would like to preserve the genetics of them. They are growing from seed, and I'm not sure if they are feminized or not. I just turned the lights to 12/12 about 6 days ago.. ( they were vegging on 16/8 for about two weeks).

I want to start the aspirin treatment on one of the branches so I get some bananas as soon as possible and preserve their pollen to use on the other female when the time is right.

Can you give me any advice on how much aspirin to use when doing foliar soaking? I used 1 aspirin in 1 liter of plain watter, and plan to soak the branch 2 times a day for about 4 days in a row. Will this work? Can you give me some advice on this technique?

Thanks :thumbsup:

They are both female, right?

The aspirin method I mentioned is all about mixing the uncoated aspirin in the water, and adding that to the soil. I've never tried spraying on just a branch. However...If you want to be sure and preserve the genetics, I'd first root a few clones.
If you haven't done this aspirin method before, I would strongly request you practice it with a strain you have back-ups for.

1 uncoated aspirin per gallon. Water with this as if it's a regular watering. Next regularly scheduled watering/feeding...repeat. Do this a total of 3 waterings or feedings (nutes ok, if scheduled) in a row. Do not drown your ladies.

If you must, you could try the aspirin on one of them asap, grow them out till the male parts produce, (they start showing in approx 2-3 weeks) then collect the pollen when the sacks are about to open. Once the sack start to seriously split, it's ok to harvest. Once dry, the sack will release the pollen with a couple of gentle taps. 5 to 10 of the sacks should do, depending on how much pollinating you want to do later.
After this point it's up to you about continuing the grow with this plant, or cut it way back, and re-veg.
If you continue the grow (as by now mom is nearing the final stages) you may end up with lil tiny popcorn seeds that are underdeveloped, a bitch to clean from your smoke and they explode in the pipe. (no matter how careful, some seeds will occour on this plant)
Anyway, after the pollen has been collected, you can store it till either the clones or the re-vegged moms are flowering. Pollinate lower branches (personal habit) as usual.
Seeds usually take from 6-10 weeks depending on strain and the enviornment. Underdeveloped seeds suck, give 'em enough time to mature.

HTH...Rusty

p.s. please remember that you've added this aspirin to this soil, as it may affect you next grow, if used again.

Thanks for the quick answer.. I'm using HPS400w to grow and don't have many plants going.. Only 2 of them have known genetics (black queens), and rest are bag seeds. Just a couple minutes ago I took a first male out (thats the first plant that revealed the sex).

Since I have only 2 plants with good genetics I wanted to sex them, but don't want to ruin the entire plant by reversing it's sex completely and water it with aspirin. Thats why I'm gonna mist only one branch of one of the plants as often as possible with 1 aspirin in 1 liter of water mix.. If it works and I get a male banana on that plant part great.. If not... oh well.. I have 5 dinafem "moby dick" seeds waiting to be sprouted.

It's haze x white widow and I cant wait to see how it turns out!! :jointsmile:

Anyhow I'll let you guys know the result of my aspirin experiment if someone is interested..

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Originally Posted by Hemppy

Thanks for the quick answer..

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No problem at all.

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Originally Posted by Hemppy

Anyhow I'll let you guys know the result of my aspirin experiment if someone is interested..

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I'm definatelly interested. Have never even thought of trying, but was under impression that the aspirin had to be assimilated thru the roots. Not sure it could absorb into leaf structure without doing damage. I don't really know for sure tho. Aspirin residue may be a problem, too. I guess what I'm trying to suggest, is maybe trying it on a lower set of leaves first.

Good luck with it.