Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
Iran vows 'decisive' retaliation - Focus on Iran - MSNBC.com
TEHRAN, Iran - The head of Iran??s elite Revolutionary Guards dismissed the possibility of U.S. military action against Iran and warned that his forces would respond with an ??even more decisive? strike if attacked, an Iranian news agency reported Friday.
The comments by Gen. Mohammad Ali Jaafari came after the United States announced sweeping new sanctions against Iran, focusing on the Revolutionary Guards, a force that is tasked with protecting Iran??s Islamic government and reports to the country??s supreme leader.
Asked about the possibility of an American strike on Iran, Jaafari told reporters late Thursday that, ??These words are just exaggerations, and I don??t consider them a threat,? the news agency ISNA reported.
??The Islamic Republic has the strength and power of its people??s faith. This power is joined with experience, knowledge and technology in the realms of defense. The enemy knows it cannot make any mistake, so these words are just exaggeration,? he said. ??We will reply to any strike with an even more decisive strike.?
The sanctions ban U.S. dealings with the extensive network of businesses believed linked to the Guards ?? and put stepped-up pressure on international banks to cut any ties with those firms.
So far, the official Iranian response has been defiant.
On Thursday, Iran??s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mohammad Ali Hosseini, called the new U.S. measures ??worthless and ineffective? and said they were ??doomed to fail as before.?
Jaafari, the head of the Revolutionary Guards, said the sanctions tried to undermine the corps but ??now as always, the corps is ready to defend the ideals of the revolution more than ever before.?
Iran??s economy is struggling, with dramatic price rises this year. The cost of housing and basic foodstuffs like vegetables have doubled or even quadrupled. The government also has imposed unpopular fuel rationing in an attempt to reduce expensive subsidies for imported gasoline.
China, a key ally of Iran, warned Friday that the sanctions could increase tensions over Iran??s nuclear program.
??Dialogue and negotiations are the best approach to resolving the Iranian nuclear issue,? the ministry said in a brief statement in response to a question from The Associated Press. ??To impose new sanctions on Iran at a time when international society and the Iranian authorities are working hard to find a solution to the Iranian nuclear issue can only complicate the issue.?
Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni was due to visit China over the weekend to lobby for intensified U.N. sanctions against Iran, the Israeli Embassy said Friday.
Washington has already won two U.N. Security Council sanctions resolutions, Chinese officials say China, a veto-wielding permanent member of the council, would not support further sanctions from the body.
??Looking forward for the sanctions??
Despite the government??s insistence that U.S. and U.N. sanctions aren??t causing any pain, some leading Iranians have begun to say publicly that the pressure does hurt. And on Tehran??s streets, people are increasingly worried over the economic pinch.
The sanctions have heightened resentment of the United States among some in the public. But they are also fueling criticism among Iranian politicians that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is mismanaging the crisis with hard-line stances that worsen the standoff with the West.
Ahmadinejad and his allies are likely counting on sanctions to rally Iranians against the United States.
??Hard-liners in Tehran were looking forward for the sanctions. It helps them hide their incompetence behind the embargo,? said political commentator Saeed Laylaz.
But many conservatives who once backed Ahmadinejad have joined his critics. They point to his failure to fulfill promises to repair the economy??despite increased oil revenues??and say his fiery rhetoric goads the West into punishing Iran.
Ahmadinejad??s sudden replacement of Iran??s top nuclear negotiator with a close loyalist over the weekend also angered many conservatives in parliament.
The Bush administration hopes its new sanctions will push companies around the world to cut their business ties with Iran. ??It is increasingly likely that if you are doing business with Iran you are doing business with the IRGC,? Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said, referring to the Guards.
Ahmadinejad on Wednesday called earlier U.N. sanctions, which punish a list of Iranian companies believed linked to the nuclear program, ??a pile of papers that have no value.?
Most notably, the new sanctions ban dealings with two major Iranian banks, Bank Melli and Bank Mellat, adding them to a list of already banned banks. That means the banks will have difficulty turning to European banks for dollars, said Matthew Levitt, a former Treasury Department terrorism expert now with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
I was watching a report a few weeks back on these sanctions. Interesting to say the least. If a company that sells something like cell phones does business with Iran they pretty much excluded themselves from the U.S. market. That includes replacement parts, etc....
The major question will be whether the Iranian people hold this more against the U.S. or their own government for bucking world opinion concerning their nuclear program.
Have a good one!:s4:
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
yeah....looks like you're going to get what you want though, p4b, I see us going to war with iran soon...
I'm not going to have MY life sacrificed for the middle east, so as soon as the draft starts, it's likely you'll never see me on this website again...at least under this username..
it's so shitty that the only way to not go die for something you don't believe in is to abandon your country, your family, and your life...I can't believe this...we impeach clinton for getting a bj, and bush refuses to listen to the voice of america, continuing the slaying of young american men and women..for his own personal vedetta...it makes no fucking sense..god bless those killed, and those that will be killed, and removed from their families and this world forever...
I have several friends in the Oklahoma national guard, that are nearly terrified of having to be deployed to iraq...they know it's phony bologna, and they didn't even think they were going to have to go to Iraq...it's the fucking National Guard for god sakes...not the motherfucking international guard..
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Markass
yeah....looks like you're going to get what you want though, p4b, I see us going to war with iran soon...
Wanting a war and seeing no other alternative are two different things. The ideal situation would be if Iran were to actually negotiate with other nations to come to a peacefull resolution regarding this.
Hopefully the sanctions will force the people of Iran to take matters into their own hands and make demands of their government.
Have a good one!:s4:
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Wanting a war and seeing no other alternative are two different things. The ideal situation would be if Iran were to actually negotiate with other nations to come to a peacefull resolution regarding this.
Hopefully the sanctions will force the people of Iran to take matters into their own hands and make demands of their government.
Have a good one!:s4:
but you and I both know, that they're going to do what they want...and they don't want to listen to us, they want to do what they want to do...they're their own country, we're ours...
When they continue doing things the way they want to, then the war starts..it's inevitable..
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
If the U.S. attacks Iran, the 11,00 conventional missiles they say they have, will rain down like a steel rain, on the Baghdad Green Zone. That will take a lot of people and/or troops out.
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Wanting a war and seeing no other alternative are two different things. The ideal situation would be if Iran were to actually negotiate with other nations to come to a peacefull resolution regarding this.
Hopefully the sanctions will force the people of Iran to take matters into their own hands and make demands of their government.
Have a good one!:s4:
"Negotiate"? I thought it was stop now, or you will face the great hand of the west!
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Markass
but you and I both know, that they're going to do what they want...and they don't want to listen to us, they want to do what they want to do...they're their own country, we're ours...
If only the issue was as simple as that. The problem here is what they do in their country could have long range effects on the world as a whole. Let these crazy ass Mullahs get a nuke and all hell will break loose.
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"Negotiate"? I thought it was stop now, or you will face the great hand of the west!
There were negotiations with Russia on refinement but Iran decided that they have the right to do that on their own. That is the key to this entire issue. I don't think that Israel would have went for that anyways but it was a step in the right direction.
Have a good one!:s4:
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
I am so sick of the American goverment throwing it's weight around and pretending "it's what the world wants".
America needs to wake up to the fact that nobody wants them policing the world.
With America it's a case of do as we say or we will bomb you , since when was that democracy ?
Americas goverment is fucking insane !
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Wanting a war and seeing no other alternative are two different things. The ideal situation would be if Iran were to actually negotiate with other nations to come to a peacefull resolution regarding this.
Other nations? The US is primary nation pushing for action against Iran and we won't talk to them. Without talks, there is no diplomacy. The last thing the Bush administration wants is to talk with Iran and actually resolve this peacefully. Does anybody actually believe this bullshit when the Bush administration says they are committed to diplomacy? The Bush administration is hell bent on going to war with Iran, and if the American public doesn't step up and stop him, don't be surprised when we see "Operation Irani Freedom" Hopefully, this useless congress will do something to prevent this, but they haven't done anything so far so I doubt they will be of any help.
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
The US would really suffer economically if it attacks Iran. With our situation in Iraq and general opposition to involvement in Iraq by other major nations such as France and Germany, it would not be a good idea. Oil would be up to at least $170-$200 per barrel. Our currency is failing as it is. We should back it up in gold standard right now! Don't have the US do Israel's work.
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
If only the issue was as simple as that. The problem here is what they do in their country could have long range effects on the world as a whole. Let these crazy ass Mullahs get a nuke and all hell will break loose.
Have a good one!:s4:
you think they don't already have nukes? I'm sure they have a nice arsenal of nuclear weapons just waiting patiently for our stupid fucking government to attack them...
what do you think decisive relatiation really meant when he said it?
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
Back door deals with Russia and China - be sure ;)
Remember that Putin has Quadrupled militairy spending since his Gas/Oil bonanza
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
iran has every right to have nuclear power like most other countrys around them.
since we give so much shit to iran about wanting nuclear power, we should give as much shit around the world to countries that dont respect the iaea(LIKE ISRAEL)
why should iran not have nukes if israel, pakistan, most of europe, india, china, russia, ect. have nukes and america and israel threatens with nukes
LETS NOT FORGET AMERICA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY TO USE A FULL SCALE NUKE BOMB, AND ISRAEL USED NUCLEAR DEBRIS BUNKER BUSTING BOMBS IN LEBANON LAST YEAR.
so us two countries are the only countries that i know of using nuclear bombs and that is a crime against the international community
I THINK ANY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO NUCLEAR POWER, THAT IS THEIR FUCKING HUMAN RIGHT, IT ISNT UP TO AMERICA TO DECIDE WHO HAS WHAT
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
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Originally Posted by Markass
you think they don't already have nukes? I'm sure they have a nice arsenal of nuclear weapons just waiting patiently for our stupid fucking government to attack them...
what do you think decisive relatiation really meant when he said it?
No, I don't think that they do have nukes yet but I do believe that it is their intention to get them.
"Decisive retatliation" speaks for itself.....the French President said basically the same thing.
For all those that think it's just the big, bad U.S.A.:
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Germany, Britain, France and the United States have persuaded a reluctant Russia and China to back two rounds of sanctions against Iran at the U.N. Security Council.
Javno - World
President Sarkozy called Iran??s nuclear ambition the world??s most dangerous problem yesterday and raised the possibility that the country could be bombed if it persisted in building an atomic weapon.
Sarkozy talks of bombing if Iran gets nuclear arms - Times Online
In her weekly podcast Saturday, Merkel underlined that one topic of the meeting would be ``how to deal with Iran and the necessity of new sanctions'' _ a source of potential friction with Russia, which is skeptical about efforts in the U.N. Security Council to impose a third, tougher set of sanctions against Tehran for its refusal to halt its uranium enrichment programme.
The Hindu News Update Service
As you can see they have been very vocal. Europe has more to worry about than us.......they can be reached.
Have a good one!:s4:
Iran vows 'decisive' relatiation
Well as a European I have to say my biggest concern is Americas constant threats to other nations , they come off as the global equivalent of the schoolyard bully.
