1st grow - AK-47

Hey guys.. I've been lurking a lot, but it's time to start posting :)
A friend of mine gave me four AK-47 seeds, because he doesn't have the place to grow them... Anyways, I got right to it :)

Made myself a pot out of an old protein supplement container, and i had 2 other pots lying around the garden... Oh yes, this in an out door grow ^_^

Anyways... i germinated the seeds indoors, then put them outdoors asap. The first few weeks had terrible weather, no sun, rain etc. but all survived. 1 seed didn't sprout though :<

Here are the pics after a week or 2. The one plant got munched by a snail... fortunately i caught the fucker and threw him over the wall. Then 2 nights later, I had a calling to go check on my babies, and i found an army of a bout 15 snails crawling up the pots! one snail was already in the soil!!! I threw them all over the wall and the next day bought a box of snail pellets. How lovely it is to see empty snail shells lying around the pots :thumbsup:

The little seedling in the tray took 1 week longer to sprout for some reason...
anyways, i transplanted him after he got a bit big. The plant which got munched survived miraculously :D It got stunted heavily... it used to be the biggest out of the 3, and now is the same size as that of the one which sprouted 1 week later :< Oh well, she's doing fine :pimp:

(the plant which got eaten is the plant in the white pot)

Lets give them names... The small seedling I will call Nigel (it turned out to be a male :< but i'll get to that later)

The plant in the white, protein supplement pot can be called Robyn, and the plant in the large pinkish pot will be called Sasha.

Also... another thing to mention is the soil.
For Robyn, i bought soil, as well as compost and mixed it together, it's a lot more airy.
for Sasha, I used an existing, very DARK soil that was already in the pot, but then added some compost and sand to the mix. It will be interesting growing the same plant in different soil and seeing if there is any difference in the Yield.

Ok so after a while, i realized that the place where the plants were growing, were only getting a half day of sunlight. I have moved them to a new location where they are now getting a lot more :>

They are thriving!
However... I found out nigel was a male. I ripped it out and fed it to the dogs. I transplanted nigel to a new pot with a very sandy type of soil. Nigel is the plant on the left. Robyn and Sasha are now proud, single females :>

Just to recap... in order from left to right:
Nigel, Robyn, Sasha.

The ferts I am using a natural product called Seagrow, which you can mix with your water. there is no risk of over feeding the plants or damaging them with seagrow... decent stuff. the stuff stinks like ass though...

9 days later.... and they have grown A LOT.

A problem though... Sasha has got an STD :< So much for single females, damn lesbos!
I think she has crabs, or something similar.

A fly infestation, little white dots appearing on the leaves. HOW DO I TREAT THIS?!
Also... some of her longer leaves touch the soil, and when they do, they sort of turn brown and shrivel off at the edges, is this normal?

I will take better pics soon showing the problems she has.
So for now it's just a full body shot. Robyn on the left, Sasha, big and strong on the right :>

(the pic was taken just as the rain stopped, so they are looking a bit droopy, tomorrow if the weather's good I will post some more pics).

COMMENTS PLEASE!! :<

Hey this question is a little off topic but can any one tell me im doin a hydro setup maybe soile now i orderd a PH pen off of ebay now what would be more important a Weather station to monitor the room or a TDS pen i only have the money for one of them any one?

the PH pen I'd say...
Remember, they are weeds, as long as they have good lighting, they are pretty tough plants adn withstand baddish weather. PH is important though... I know a lot of indoor growers who grow amazing crops, none of them have weather monitors lol, that's a bit excessive imo.

I need a PH monitor myself :S I don't have one yet.

i allready orderd the PH pen i kno this i am asking about a TDS pen ( total dissolved solids/PPM ) for the nute's

nice to see an outdoor growth of ak47, a strain id like to do myself !
deal with the bugs ASAP do not wait another minute, they are laying eggs as we speak. it only goes to worse. I dont know about bugs since Im an indoors person but little white flies.. you might check the shop for a spray. Since its vegetative stage theres no worries just spray them adecuately as it sais on the can.

You can use tabaco juice mixed with garlic juice also if you want to do it the organic way. To make tabaco juice ( I think ) you put some tabacco ( 10-20 cigaretes my guess, open them up and throw in ) into 1 liter of water and let it sit there 2 days. Also chop up some garlic and throw it in there also. Then after 2 days you pass it through a ... dont know in english, something to catch the tabaco and let the water through .. net / coffeefilter
And spray ( mist ) that water onto the plants 2-3 times a day. It should keep most flies away. Although the problem you have can be larvae mites? Can you get a close up pic and define how they are a little more?

Glad to have you join us, best of luck!:thumbsup:

Thanks for the advice man! :)

Ok the flies i see are little black ones, as well as whiet ones. Not often though, like i see 1-2 a day, and i squash them when i see them. however the white dots are getting worse...

How destructive are these flies? I will get a magnifying glass and check for spider mites... i haven't seen any with my bare eyes though.

OK these set of pics are just comparing the 2 plants from a distance.

The fertilizer that I'm using is one called Seagro.

The next set of pics will be detailing some issues that I'm having with the one plant...

5 days later with an update.

In the first 2 pics u can see the burning that i was talking about.. i don't think it's a nute burn.... Is it possible that if a plant is sprayed with water on a HOT scorching day, that the leaves could get burnt?

anyways... the parasite problem.. in the last pic u can see a tiny fly on the leaf. These aren't normal houseflies, and only seem to occupy the larger plant. I dont know what they are... but they seem to make little white dots on the leaves. I've checked for spider mites and haven't seen any.

help, comments, criticism would be great :>

Thanks.

Whiteflies, Gnats, Black Gnats, Spider Mites? Most likely spider Mites and those things are bastards!! I have have tried everything and these things are hard to kill! Just go buy some Fruit&Vegetable Made from (Safe Home&Garden) spray from Home depot, wet the leaves liberally on both sides and in a weeks do it again, until you have killed both the Eggs and Spider mite adults. The Spray doesn't kill the eggs, re-spray is a must in a day or 2 after the prior spray. This spray can also be used up until the day of harvest as well. Be sure to do boths sides of the leaves or else you can kill the ones on top, but still leaving the assholes underneath.

i said i checked for spider mites :< I couldn't see any.
However, I think its those black gnats. arrrgh, how destructive are they?

Just an update.

I know plant size is dependant on pot size...
but could someone give me an idea as to how big these plants will grow?

:< come on guys.
where's the <3 ?

criticism and comments would be much appreciated.

thats a hard question bro that cant really be answerd and yeah ppl on here are haters for fast replys :(

Well judging from the fact that certain strains are known to grow to certain hights.
AK-46 = 45cm-55cm indoor (AK 47 Marijuana Seeds High Quality serious seeds)

but im wondering.. my one pot is large... larger than most indoor pots, i mean it takes 2 people to move it (that's dragging it across the ground), this plant may grow higher. I mean it hasn't even started flowering yet and is higher than 55cm. however the plant in the smaller pot (which is the same age) is a lot smaller.

haha i guess i kinda answered my own question, but anyways :> Thanks for the comment :>
glad to see someone is watching my log :D

I'm watching, bone. Very nice patio grow. It looks like things are going very well. Carl posted good info about the fly problem.

Shovelhandle

I think i've gotten rid of the flies. I found a tiny bit of pesticide left in a jar in the garage, probably some stuff my mother uses. Mixed a teaspoon into a window cleaning spray bottle with water and sprayed the plants for a few days. I saw less and less flies each day... I think they're gone :D Will keep spraying for a few more days just to make sure..

Strange how they only infested the one plant and not the other?

Also... the smaller of the 2 plants seems A LOT smaller than the other. It also seams to have grown very differently. oh well.. probably because of a different root structure?

Thanks for the comment Shovelhandle :) Nice to know people are keeping track of my grow :D peace.

Sasha

Plant size is dependent on pot size and the amount of room the roots have to grow.Of course this is just one factor in determining growth and size.I do a 2 and 1/2 to 3 month veg with my girls so I try to use 5 gallon pots when possible and I have been thinking about increasing pot size in the near future (well bucket size to be precise as Im gonna get wet here in a couple of months).Good luck with your grow and congrats on getting a handle on the pest problem.Take care,be well,and most of all be safe.

wow, you are so giving me some.

aion

Wzup Brotha? Looks great! Glad to hear you got the bug situation under control, though you hopefully made sure that the pesticide was safe for "eatable plants" ? Don't want to be smoking Chemicals.

I read around, researched, and pretty much the question is. How big do you want the plant to be??
Because the bigger the pot (3,5,7gal.) and the more room the roots have to grow, the bigger, taller the plant will want to be. Put them both in 5 Gallon pots are call it good IMHO. BTW Try to find Deeper pots, and not such shallow ones.

The smaller plant might be a Female, from what I hear Males are quicker to mature and flower, and females seem to be a few days, weeks behind even.

Hope this helps. later

^^ Thought I would post this for you as well.

"Plant size in soil is directly related to pot size. If you want the plant to grow bigger, put it in a bigger pot. Usually, 1/2 gallon per foot of plant is sufficient. A six foot plant would require a minimum of a 3 gallon pot. Remember, square containers have more volume in a square space (like a closet)." ~ WF

thanks a lot :)
both plants are females btw...
unfortunately i wont be taking anymore pics for a while... my phone got stolen.
read about it here :< robbed at gun point

http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-...hijacking.html

ya man thats fucked up.. sry that happened to you.i live in oakland, ca. u.s.a. and there is a simalar epidemic of robbery rape and murder good luck
~SlUmPeR89~

^^ Ya very shitty. Ya, I would say Oakland is pretty bad too.

Oh well...
an update :D woohoo!

So basically I borrowed my brothers cell phone, which was the same as mine that got stolen :< *jealous*

So I have some new pics. The one plant isn't doing well at all. I think it has a neut deficiency or something, but not too sure... Maybe someone can help. The other plant has just started flowering :D

Please can someone give me an indication as to what the problem could be... IT hasn't grown in ages, it has shown it's sex ages ago, but the leaves are getting yellower and the stems are very purple. It's literally as if it just stopped growing, and has been sitting like this for ages now. I mean look at these pics compared to the previous ones :/

Here's a close up of the sick, deformed plant's leaves

Any ideas :< ???

Be a hero

rocco

lol zaion :S
confused.

Ok, well another thing i noticed....
When it rains, even for a whole day + night, the following day i will decide not to water the plant, for obvious reasons. so anyways... I check the plant in the late afternoon and it's all DROOPY. I give it water and BAM, it perks up in about 30 minutes. When it rains, the rain just falls on the leaves and out of the pot. I need to remember that one for the future! Almost killed my baby girls!

Will update with some pics this weekend :)
Comments and criticism would be much appreciated! Thanks guys.

Will update with some pics this weekend :)
Comments and criticism would be much appreciated! Thanks guys.

Just an update. Still clueless at to the other plant. It hasn't grown in AGES! I'm going to replant it... I'm guessing it's bot bound or the soil is messed up. Any advice would be great...

Anyways, here are the pics, week 2 of flower. It seems to be flowering really slowly... Oh well... The lighting was bad as the sun was setting and the plants were in shade. Will try take more tomorrow; some better close-ups.

Sorry, here are the pics.
Damn edit button expires after 10 minutes :<

That's damn good looking!

Shovelhandle

Hey B0n3ZA....i think the problem is, that the plants like the sun and warm weather, but the roots don't...If the sun shines on the pot and it's gets too warm, the roots simply get cooked...i have lost some plants bcuz of this before, so i think this could be the problem... Try to avoid that direct sunlight shines on the pots....

Yeah, true.. the clay pot doesn't seem to get that hot compared to the plastic one.
Thanks for the advice. I am going to replant it in the ground.

Many thanks!