See how the value of the US dollar has dropped compared to gold!

This graph shows the final closing value of the U.S. dollar for each calendar year. Value is measured in milligrams of gold. By this measure the U.S. dollar lost a very significant amount of value during the 1970s.

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Eh, it's not like the dollar is even backed by gold anyway. Pieces of paper, numbers on a computer screen, it's just bullshit that's there to keep us all in line.

gee, what sense it makes for our dollar value to start plummeting the year of the start of the 'war on drugs'...thank you nixon, you piece of crap

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Eh, it's not like the dollar is even backed by gold anyway. Pieces of paper, numbers on a computer screen, it's just bullshit that's there to keep us all in line.

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actually, the gold in our reserves is what backs the currency that we have printed...unfortunately, now, we don't have the gold to back the money that we're printing and sending overseas...how much sense that makes to do...

you don't really think we just print money onto paper anytime we need it and things are just dandy do you?? the gold that this country has in our gold reserves is the gold that represents the value of our american dollar..

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actually, the gold in our reserves is what backs the currency that we have printed...unfortunately, now, we don't have the gold to back the money that we're printing and sending overseas...how much sense that makes to do...

you don't really think we just print money onto paper anytime we need it and things are just dandy do you?? the gold that this country has in our gold reserves is the gold that represents the value of our american dollar..

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I hope this is a funny! We left the gold standard a very long time ago.

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actually, the gold in our reserves is what backs the currency that we have printed...unfortunately, now, we don't have the gold to back the money that we're printing and sending overseas...how much sense that makes to do...

you don't really think we just print money onto paper anytime we need it and things are just dandy do you?? the gold that this country has in our gold reserves is the gold that represents the value of our american dollar..

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USD is not backed by Gold at All Anymore. The only thing that Backs USD is How Much is in Circulation.

Another Reason We Went after Sadam He was going to Swich From USD to the Euro To Sale Oil. Big No No for people Like P4B (THE BIG DAWG) Rofl.

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USD is not backed by Gold at All Anymore. The only thing that Backs USD is How Much is in Circulation.

Another Reason We Went after Sadam He was going to Swich From USD to the Euro To Sale Oil. Big No No for people Like P4B (THE BIG DAWG) Rofl.

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oh, so that's how they can just print as much as they need for the war...I didn't know that, thanks for enlightening me..

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gee, what sense it makes for our dollar value to start plummeting the year of the start of the 'war on drugs'...thank you nixon, you piece of crap

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Thats hilarious. I am THIS close to putting the bold part in my sig.

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Thats hilarious. I am THIS close to putting the bold part in my sig.

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lol :stoned:

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oh, so that's how they can just print as much as they need for the war...I didn't know that, thanks for enlightening me..

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They borrow from the World Banks. All USD $$ is on Loan. The US Borrows From China (and others) and then have no Real Export of Our Own. You can see where thats headed.

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They borrow from the World Banks. All USD $$ is on Loan. The US Borrows From China (and others) and then have no Real Export of Our Own. You can see where thats headed.

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yeah...definitely not good..

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yeah...definitely not good..

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Look Up China Federal Reserve

heres just One Link Federal Reserve Head Not Concerned over China U.S. Debt Holdings - US Department of State

China has a HUGE chunk there sitting on for Power Plays. If people got together and wanted to (after we goto War with Iran maybe?) they can Crash USA's ecomony. The US is not as Stable as everyone thinks.

Even more Funny is the Fact that USA's Federal Reserve is Privately Owned. Wich means there Trying to Make $$ also. There a Company Rofl. Court Rules Fed is Privately Owned

Look it up if you don't belive me.

Yeah but if China pulls out of the US we'll do the same and hurt them just as bad.

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Yeah but if China pulls out of the US we'll do the same and hurt them just as bad.

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What we wont pay our Loan? ROFL in war why would China Care if We say hey we owe you $$ but were not going to pay so there? How does this Hurt China?

Well im sure we could stop trade completely. Im pretty sure that would hurt pretty bad.

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Well im sure we could stop trade completely. Im pretty sure that would hurt pretty bad.

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In our Theory we are talking about China Has Distroyed our ecomony because we are at War, I don't think they want to Trade with us At that point and time Anyways. Right?

They will be makeing so much selling to Russia Anyways. Because Russia would be Fighting the USA and Buying Goods for there War.

EDIT: Asia Times Online :: China News, China Business News, Taiwan and Hong Kong News and Business. China and Russia are Good Friends NOW.

I dunno, I still think America could come back. Even if that happened.

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I dunno, I still think America could come back. Even if that happened.

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You're right we could come back from this crazy economic crisis. We would have to make changes very soon though, and those changes would have to be the cutting of a lot of programs that are good for nothing, limiting the size of government, also we would have to destroy the FED they are doing nothing but robbing us of our own money. We pay a national debt that is impossible to pay off. It's not impossible because we are just too far in debt, it's impossible because there is not enough money in circulation to pay it off. We really need to make a change here, and we need to somehow figure a way to punish corporations who just pick up and move over seas due to lower wages, and taxes, and then turn around and shipment 75% of their products right back to us! If you want to start in your own way just start buying only American made products, if you can.

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You're right we could come back from this crazy economic crisis. We would have to make changes very soon though, and those changes would have to be the cutting of a lot of programs that are good for nothing, limiting the size of government, also we would have to destroy the FED they are doing nothing but robbing us of our own money. We pay a national debt that is impossible to pay off. It's not impossible because we are just too far in debt, it's impossible because there is not enough money in circulation to pay it off. We really need to make a change here, and we need to somehow figure a way to punish corporations who just pick up and move over seas due to lower wages, and taxes, and then turn around and shipment 75% of their products right back to us! If you want to start in your own way just start buying only American made products, if you can.

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You see the Truth of This system but, Do you think Human's Will make a Perfect World by there Selfs? History Tells me another Crupt Human will come along.

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You're right we could come back from this crazy economic crisis. We would have to make changes very soon though, and those changes would have to be the cutting of a lot of programs that are good for nothing, limiting the size of government, also we would have to destroy the FED they are doing nothing but robbing us of our own money. We pay a national debt that is impossible to pay off. It's not impossible because we are just too far in debt, it's impossible because there is not enough money in circulation to pay it off. We really need to make a change here, and we need to somehow figure a way to punish corporations who just pick up and move over seas due to lower wages, and taxes, and then turn around and shipment 75% of their products right back to us! If you want to start in your own way just start buying only American made products, if you can.

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This is what im trying to say. Its exactly what Ron Paul wants to do.

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This is what im trying to say. Its exactly what Ron Paul wants to do.

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Will the World Banks allow any of this? Another puppet is comming to take bush's place.

Yeah well there pretty much ALL puppets. And thats pretty messed up.

Ron Paul would probably get shot before he gets a chance, I think we can all see that coming :(.

He wants rid of the IRS, that won't fly imho.

Quick synopsis of what's really going on... All in the subtext :p

The US dollar is being devalued. The prices of Stocks, gold, oil, and food, keep rising because the value of the dollar keeps dropping. Foreign governments are moving away from US Treasuries to Euros for reserves and China has started dumping some of their US debt (recently created a 3B$ hedge fund).

Once the dollar is gone the US will only be able to repay it's loans with weapons. They'll be forced to arm their enemies to repay debt. Fat cats in London run the show - always have... The last great super power is about to be dismantled to be replaced with some new form of corporate fascism, enforced by blackwater.

And the next pres is scheduled to be whacked (according to Vedic astrology) and replaced by Al Gore. And the Golden age will begin soon after when all religions will be replaced with hindu/Gaia worship of mother earth - hence global warming propaganda.

K, I may have rolled it too big...

As long as you put Faith in Man, it will always be Messed Up. Mankind sets pretend lines that they then goto War for and Die for. Like this Thread is about Paper compaired to a Rock? Sit back and really think about it. Does gold really matter? does the USD Really matter? But we have people dieing for it, Why? Why is Mankind so Dumb?

Even the richest person is Unhappy and Can Not Stop this System's Crash. Don't Care only about Yourself or Your Country. This world is filled with people who do just that. People are suffering and Dieing because of Some pretend line someone put on a map. Why? Invade me or I'll Invade you. Enslave me or I'll Enslave you. Why? Stop thinking Mankind will come out of this, when will we see that WE ARE ALL NOTHING, we are but specks of Dust. This systems Problems will never be solved by Mankind alone.


As we keep trusting in Man it will get Darker and Darker. Man is Not your Hope.

We're the cause, and the victims... Whacky

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Quick synopsis of what's really going on... All in the subtext :p

The US dollar is being devalued. The prices of Stocks, gold, oil, and food, keep rising because the value of the dollar keeps dropping. Foreign governments are moving away from US Treasuries to Euros for reserves and China has started dumping some of their US debt (recently created a 3B$ hedge fund).

Once the dollar is gone the US will only be able to repay it's loans with weapons. They'll be forced to arm their enemies to repay debt. Fat cats in London run the show - always have... The last great super power is about to be dismantled to be replaced with some new form of corporate fascism, enforced by blackwater.

And the next pres is scheduled to be whacked (according to Vedic astrology) and replaced by Al Gore. And the Golden age will begin soon after when all religions will be replaced with hindu/Gaia worship of mother earth - hence global warming propaganda.

K, I may have rolled it too big...

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America and Europe are the last world power. Humans had a chance and soon it will be over. God will bring the Golden age. You are right tho The world will Replace Religion befor That. Babalon the Great will be Distroyed by the Beast she rides on.

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America and Europe are the last world power. Humans had a chance and soon it will be over. God will bring the Golden age. You are right tho The world will Replace Religion befor That. Babalon the Great will be Distroyed by the Beast she rides on.

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What is the purpose of human beings is to destroy, like we are the cancer for the earth?

If you look from above, you see the beauty of the earth, until you view civilization from above. You look at it, and it's hideous. All this beauty from the sky except where humans live.

Food for thought.

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What is the purpose of human beings is to destroy, like we are the cancer for the earth?

If you look from above, you see the beauty of the earth, until you view civilization from above. You look at it, and it's hideous. All this beauty from the sky except where humans live.

Food for thought.

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No we are proveing forever that we have to listion to God and do things his Way. We are about to distroy our Planet and kill our selfs off. This proves that we can't live on our own we need god's Direction.

We are at the End of a court case proveing that no matter what we do or what we try we can't make it on our own.

No Human Government will work it can't. When this court case is over God is going to step in and rule Mankind. Jesus is going to be our King Following God's plain for a government.

How long would Adam and Eve of Lived if they listioned to God?

We were ment to live forever under God's Laws. This system and all the suffering and death going on is Needed to show what happends when we don't do it God's way. Once This Court Case is over Never will we have to suffer any longer. All the Dead will be Brought back and allowed to choose to follow God or Die Forever. Satan and thoses who followed him will be distroyed forever also.

We are in pain and suffering now but it will be over and NEVER AGAIN will we have to see any of this Hideous stuff again.

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Another Reason We Went after Sadam He was going to Swich From USD to the Euro To Sale Oil. Big No No for people Like P4B (THE BIG DAWG) Rofl.

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CONSPIRACY, CONSPIRACY!!!

Kuwait abandons US dollar peg
FT.com / Middle-East & North Africa - Kuwait abandons US dollar peg

So are we going to invade Kuwait now?

Have a good one!:s4:

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CONSPIRACY, CONSPIRACY!!!

Kuwait abandons US dollar peg
FT.com / Middle-East & North Africa - Kuwait abandons US dollar peg

So are we going to invade Kuwait now?

Have a good one!:s4:

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1st how r u?
2ed goto the thread Selective Service...yeah, about that..

I asked you some Questions my Friend. Would like to see what you think.

And to be back on topic USD is in trouble

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No we are proveing forever that we have to listion to God and do things his Way. We are about to distroy our Planet and kill our selfs off. This proves that we can't live on our own we need god's Direction.

We are at the End of a court case proveing that no matter what we do or what we try we can't make it on our own.

No Human Government will work it can't. When this court case is over God is going to step in and rule Mankind. Jesus is going to be our King Following God's plain for a government.

How long would Adam and Eve of Lived if they listioned to God?

We were ment to live forever under God's Laws. This system and all the suffering and death going on is Needed to show what happends when we don't do it God's way. Once This Court Case is over Never will we have to suffer any longer. All the Dead will be Brought back and allowed to choose to follow God or Die Forever. Satan and thoses who followed him will be distroyed forever also.

We are in pain and suffering now but it will be over and NEVER AGAIN will we have to see any of this Hideous stuff again.

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We've had national politics ruled by the doctrine of the Christian God. Didn't work out so well.

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We've had national politics ruled by the doctrine of the Christian God. Didn't work out so well.

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False Christian God. The bible Says do not Worship Idols and they have the Cross. the Bible Says Do not kill and love thy neighbor they start the cursades. There just as much of Babalon the Great

You will Know when God is REALLY ruleing things.

Seriously look at the pope hes satan's puppet. Bless you goto war o and Bless the other side goto war, discusting.

They even Baned the use of the bible at times. All they want is Money and Power, they are Babalon the Great and this systems political powers will distroy them soon.

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1st how r u?
2ed goto the thread Selective Service...yeah, about that..

I asked you some Questions my Friend. Would like to see what you think.

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Been there did that.....I'm sure you'll like my replies.:D

Oh yeah.....I'm doing GREAT, how about you?

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And to be back on topic USD is in trouble

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Everything moves in cycles.....when the dollar is strong our goods cost more to overseas markets and our labor costs increase also. We spiked out and that is one of the reasons why plants moved to other countries and such things as labor unions almost have become a thing of the past. As the dollar depreciates OUR goods will be more effective over there and our plants will return for the "lower cost". Because of that there should be a swing once again for labor in the U.S. and we all know about supply and demand. The U.S. worker will once again have negotiating power in the workplace.

P.S...........nice edit on that post my friend!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Been there did that.....I'm sure you'll like my replies.:D

Oh yeah.....I'm doing GREAT, how about you?



Everything moves in cycles.....when the dollar is strong our goods cost more to overseas markets and our labor costs increase also. We spiked out and that is one of the reasons why plants moved to other countries and such things as labor unions almost have become a thing of the past. As the dollar depreciates OUR goods will be more effective over there and our plants will return for the "lower cost". Because of that there should be a swing once again for labor in the U.S. and we all know about supply and demand. The U.S. worker will once again have negotiating power in the workplace.

P.S...........nice edit on that post my friend!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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I love how you see a Drop of water in a Glass and Call it Half Full. Still on topic I would like to know what you think about NAU and the Amero. What will happen to USD? Convert or 2 differnt and keep it alive?

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I love how you see a Drop of water in a Glass and Call it Half Full. Still on topic I would like to know what you think about NAU and the Amero. What will happen to USD? Convert or 2 differnt and keep it alive?

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Canada does NOT want to merge with the U.S., the U.S. does not want to merge with Mexico...nor does Canada. The ONLY country that this would benifit is Mexico. I can't see it ever happening nor would I support it in any way.

By the way.....check your glasses, I believe that glass would be half empty if you look real hard. LOL

Have a good one!:s4:

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Canada does NOT want to merge with the U.S., the U.S. does not want to merge with Mexico...nor does Canada. The ONLY country that this would benifit is Mexico. I can't see it ever happening nor would I support it in any way.

By the way.....check your glasses, I believe that glass would be half empty if you look real hard. LOL

Have a good one!:s4:

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Rofl My Glass is Full Because I have No Faith in this Systems Governments. History proves to me, It all is going away.

But seriously you think the PEOPLE get to decided if the NAU is formed? How many people get heard anymore? I think Corporations Decide what, where, when, and How in This System.

So what your saying about the USD is that it will get so Bad that finaly it will be the lowest or a lower currency, to the extent that factory's will move back? How long of a time are you thinking? Look at the houseing market thats alot bigger problem than Fox's news admits. And we have a floating market ATM it's all being held up by Hot air. The Air Ballon is crashing, it just feels like were flying but it's really headed down.

The glass is twice the size it needs to be.

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Rofl My Glass is Full Because I have No Faith in this Systems Governments. History proves to me, It all is going away.

But seriously you think the PEOPLE get to decided if the NAU is formed? How many people get heard anymore? I think Corporations Decide what, where, when, and How in This System.

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How can corporations want this when they got a cheap labor base such as Mexico right now? As for the people......with the popular feelings regarding the border at the present this is the LAST thing that ANY politician would submit.

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So what your saying about the USD is that it will get so Bad that finaly it will be the lowest or a lower currency, to the extent that factory's will move back? How long of a time are you thinking? Look at the houseing market thats alot bigger problem than Fox's news admits. And we have a floating market ATM it's all being held up by Hot air. The Air Ballon is crashing, it just feels like were flying but it's really headed down.

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Not lowest of the lowest....just competive to the Euro markets, etc..... They've had the advantage on us for a while.

As for the housing market.......I don't know if you were around in the late 70,s but the same thing happened that drove interest rates to about 17%. Be sure to have a VERY secure job in the near future.....housing will be CHEAP! Just another economic cycle.

Another thing regarding housing.....people are way overspending for their income levels and eventually this will catch up with them...as it did in the past. $170,000 loan at a flexible interest rate right now is economic suicide! They won't even be able to recover the investment money not to mention meeting the loan when the rate rises.

Have a good one!:s4: