Norkali's 2nd Indoor Grow - *Cinderella99*

Welcome to Norkali's 2nd indoor growlog. My first indoor grow didn't go too bad at all IMO, I was happily surprised with my results.

Now I have learned from my initial mistakes and have taken the time to fix and upgrade my growspace:

• 6'' Cooltube!
• SunMaster 600w Cool Deluxe MH conv. bulb
• SunMaster 600w Super HPS Deluxe bulb
• 600w Digital Greenhouse ballast
• 4'' duct - replaced with 6''.
• 4 more 2'' intake holes, total of 6 now.
• No more ghetto chains, Hi-Low reflector hangers.
• Plastic tub for flushing/runoff/pH testing, baking racks to elevate pots.

Other implemented/planned improvements:

• Quality genetics - Joey Weed's Cinderella 99
• Fox Farms Nutes:
  -Grow Big
  -Tiger Bloom
  -Big Bloom
• Also, Liquid Karma & Liquinox Start Vitamin B-1
• Purchased both soil and liquid pH test kits
• Purchased pH Up/Down solution.
• Prilled Dolomite Lime to combat acidic Fox Farms nutes.
• LST & Topping during grow.

Soil will remain the same, Black Gold Seedling Mix to start, then Fox Farms Ocean Mix.

Temps are SO much better with the CoolTube, temps barely raise with the door closed.

I really want to play with ScrOG as well, but am still unsure of where/how to mount the screen/how big of screen spacing, etc. - Any advice?

Seeds were popped into the ground on Oct. 13 @ 12:01am PST. It has been three days now, no signs of anything yet, but that was expected. I'm giving them at least a week before I worry. I did not use any pre-planting germination techniques, just a dry seed into moist soil and patience.

:thumbsup: looks good. I am on my first, already have learned more with the 2nd grow box and the 3rd will be even better.. your right with the ghetto shit..lol Like MINE..lol.... Looks Good, though.

Like your work- Love your plants =)

JOURNEY:jointsmile:

4/4 sprouted!

Pic 1 - One had trouble with a stubborn seed shell...required tweezers.

Pic 2 - Taken yesterday, (Oct. 17) Same time as Picture 1.

Pic 3 - Wide shot, lol.

Pic 4 - All 4. (Oct. 17)

Pic 5 - What a difference a day makes....(Oct. 18)

I already want to give them nutrients...patience though.

Good growth....are they stretching too much? should I lower the light?

Just added 1 tsp. of Fox Farms Grow Big and 1 tsp. of Big Bloom. pH adjusted up to around 6.5. :)

Really nice setup man ill def be following your thread because i am ordering some c99 end of this week did it take long to get the seeds from HD? And ill be growing inside as well but as of now doing a beta run on some bag seed in the log YaYo's Benchmark.

Damn Norkali, you're the man. Awesome first grow and I'll be watching this one closely.

It looks like a nice grow setup you have going! I'll be watching also.

Shovelhandle

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Originally Posted by YaYoKush

Really nice setup man ill def be following your thread because i am ordering some c99 end of this week did it take long to get the seeds from HD? And ill be growing inside as well but as of now doing a beta run on some bag seed in the log YaYo's Benchmark.

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Thanks. HD was fast, maybe 4-5 days with fast delivery option.

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Originally Posted by forcus master

Damn Norkali, you're the man. Awesome first grow and I'll be watching this one closely.

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Cool, Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Shovelhandle

It looks like a nice grow setup you have going! I'll be watching also.

Shovelhandle

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Thank you as well. :thumbsup:

Im thinking of ordering some of that C99 from Joey I have been hearing so much about. What did the packaging look like ? Did you have it sent somewhere else besides where you are growing at ? I feel like I should send them somewhere else but don't want to have to tell anyone what they are...

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Originally Posted by thex420

Im thinking of ordering some of that C99 from Joey I have been hearing so much about. What did the packaging look like ? Did you have it sent somewhere else besides where you are growing at ? I feel like I should send them somewhere else but don't want to have to tell anyone what they are...

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Packaging?? HD is based in Canada, so it just looks like any other international package/mail. I had it shipped directly. If you have to worry about what's coming in the mail because of the occupants of the house, then you probably shouldn't be growing there; realizing of course that I don't know you nor your living situation.

People worry too much about their snail mail being watched. Unless your ordering hundreds of seeds or using stolen credits cards, in my personal opinion at least, you shouldn't worry about it.

Think about it. If the USPS --> FBI/DEA were really interested in you and your odd horticultural purchases, they would just track you on the internet, subpoena a couple of things, warrant, call to your friendly local police dept., bing bang boom. You're done.

Local cops? ....put it this way, if you believe that you possess the nerve, knowledge, and skill to maintain a successful marijuana grow, you should be smart enough not to attract police attention on a general basis in the first place....getting some seeds in the mail should be one of your lesser worries.

Is it just me or do the leaves look kind of twisted/folded....like the "wind" is too strong. The fan is on the lowest setting as it is...already moved farther way too. A better fan is actually on the way; will be much better suited for my operation.

I think I will be transplanting into bigger pots soon, maybe in the next day or two...oh yeah, I added a 1/2'' of Fox Farms Ocean Forest mix to top the little pots off...the soil will be 100% Fox Farms when I transplant as well.

Probably less frequent updating as well, I'm beginning to think that two pics a day (on average) is excessive. Unless of course you guys like the OCD style documentation. Somebody is paying for the bandwidth. It will be awesome though to watch a high quality time-lapse when the ladies* are done.

*Ladies TBA.

Wow.....your grow room is just awesome:thumbsup: !!!!! And those 4 '99s look awesome too:thumbsup:....i hope they will become really big ,whit huge sticky buds..:):) Keep sending those pics...:hippy:

Pic's 2 & 3 - See how the leaves are folded/bent? Too much "wind"?

Pic 5 - "special" leaf.

Norkali, i am currently in close to the same stage as u, my seedlings have just popped their heads out of the dirt today.

What kind of light did u use for ur seedlings just after they sprouted? I dont wanna put the 400w MH on em yet do i?

How far away was ur light from the seedling?? Also i AM supposed to have 24 hr light at this stage correct?

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-2nd-grow.html Heres my gro-log if u want to check it out. I also have a photo problem lol, i guess its not necessarily a bad thing tho right

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Originally Posted by cwesto

Norkali, i am currently in close to the same stage as u, my seedlings have just popped their heads out of the dirt today.

What kind of light did u use for ur seedlings just after they sprouted? I dont wanna put the 400w MH on em yet do i?

How far away was ur light from the seedling?? Also i AM supposed to have 24 hr light at this stage correct?

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-2nd-grow.html Heres my gro-log if u want to check it out. I also have a photo problem lol, i guess its not necessarily a bad thing tho right

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I use 18/6, I never use 24/0. (Unless I had a mother plant)

I put the seedling right under a 600w MH conversion bulb immediately, at about 5.5 ft. away w/ a cool tube (and mylar.)

Now it's about 3.5-4 ft. away.

Good log, get your lights closer though! Swich to the MH!!

u put the MH on em as soon as they came out of the dirt?? About 5' away huh? Ok ill out the MH on em then.. Hope they dont stress the lil guys out.

Just got done transplanting the babies.... 3 of 4 went well. One was questionable.

The plant with the "special leaf" was the "questionable" transplant. As I was in the process of physically transplanting to the new pot, I (stupidly) took my hand off of the bottom of the rootsquare and the rootball just...fell through. The top section of the soil basically detached from the main rootball and it (the rootball) fell like 3 inches into the awaiting hole....I simply placed what was left in my hand and set it back on top gently and worked it all in.

Pic 1 - Day 12

Pic 2 - Day 13

Pic 3 - Today, Day 14 - before transplant.

Pic's 4&5 - Today, after transplant.

Will update tomorrow sometime to show results. Edit: Also, I was baked last update and stated I would use 24/0 for mothers. Nahhh...lol. Why would I do that. 18/6 all the way. :stoned: and cwesto....do it; they'll be alright, they need it.

Wow those cindy's have spread out nice i love how your grow area is so clean and fresh, my little benchmark has helped so much so ive almost worked out all the bugs in my box so soon to order some of that cindy:) I wouldnt sweat over that little leaf i mean not every plant has perfect genetic structure. Seems super healthy to me.

They look nic have you grown Ciny 99 before? Somone recomended the strain to me as a great UP HIGH,, What do you think? As well does it get super tall likea Sativa?

kd

Lovely Norkali, ur plants r looking absolutely wonderful. Ill be following ur gro. U got a nice log so far with nice plants, and also our grows like a week apart from each other so it will be good to compare and contrast.

I was also wondering how far do u have ur MH away from ur plants, and what ur day time and night time temps are and what humidity do u have???

Keep up the good work norkali :jointsmile: :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by YaYoKush

I wouldnt sweat over that little leaf i mean not every plant has perfect genetic structure. Seems super healthy to me.

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Lol. Thanks. Just a bit funny.

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Originally Posted by kdspecial

They look nice have you grown Cindy 99 before?

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Nope.

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Somone recomended the strain to me as a great UP HIGH,, What do you think? As well does it get super tall likea Sativa?

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I like "up" highs. That's mainly why I chose Cindy 99. That and the ease of the grow. I don't know about the stretching, I plan on doing a ScrOG anyway.

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Originally Posted by cwesto

Lovely Norkali, ur plants r looking absolutely wonderful. Ill be following ur gro. U got a nice log so far with nice plants, and also our grows like a week apart from each other so it will be good to compare and contrast.

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Thanks.

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Originally Posted by cwesto

I was also wondering how far do u have ur MH away from ur plants, and what ur day time and night time temps are and what humidity do u have???
Keep up the good work norkali :jointsmile: :thumbsup:

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Before the transplant, the MH bulb was approx. 3' 3'' away from the top of the plants. After I transplanted last night, the new pots raised them up closer to the lights and now they are exactly 2' 5'' away from the tops of the plants. I haven't seen any signs of stress throughout the day.

Morning: 69-73°
Afternoon & Evening: 73-78°
Night: 65-68°

Humidity: 35-55%

Transplanting went fine with all 4. :thumbsup:

They were topped for the first time tonight as well.

Next couple of days will be sloooow...

whats up norkali your grow area looks awesome nice and clean thats the way a grow room should look. I to have some c99 to grow but i am waiting for a while to pop the seeds. I will be sticking around for this one.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

Look'n good like always Norkali. Can we see some pics of the top'd plants?? Ive never topped B4 which is what i plan on doing to half my Big buds so id like to see were u cut at.

PS Ill be posting some new pics tonight from last 2 days, they should be up around 10PM EST. U should come check em out, and let me kno what u think about em.

Oh, also Norkali ive been moving my lights down the last couple of days. today i moved em from about 3 1/2' down to about 2' and they havent showed any stress yet. :thumbsup:

All are doing well now, except for a few small yellow spots on a few of the leaves....

And I accidentally discovered how to do the "FIM" technique! hahaha! Nice. I didn't know what I was even doing until the morning after I realized that I hadn't totally topped the plants, so I hopped onto the lovely Cannabis Cultivation FAQ and saw the FIM technique article. BINGO!

Should be interesting.

I hope mine look like yours when I pop mine. Im going to do some breeding and I want to breed it to my granddaddy purple. Im going take a male c99 and breed it to my GDP clone. I think thast all Im going to do next year is breeding. Those plants look nice man keep up the good work Ill check back in a couple days.

Hey Norkali....anything new??? how are the girls??

your seedlings are looking OK, but I want to point out a couple things for newbie growers ... you should not have fertilized so early ... 2 weeks, NO nutes is best, (you got away with it this time, but C99 tolerates just about anything, other strains won't) ... also, I personally would never dream of topping a plant that young and small ... I suggest you don't top before the 5th set of branching, no sense in stressing a seedling that small ... Cinderella99 isn't a particuarly tall plant, anyway ... the leaf deformity that you pointed out means nothing usually, no worries ... possibly a microscopic scratch or abrasion from emerging from the shell, and it becomes more apparent as it grows larger ... otherwise, a very nice grow, and I predict you'll love Joey's C99 ... improves greatly after a slow cure ... :thumbsup:

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Hey Norkali....anything new??? how are the girls??

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They are looking good! I have started foliar feeding w/ growth excel and wow, look at the pictures.

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also, I personally would never dream of topping a plant that young and small ... I suggest you don't top before the 5th set of branching

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I've also heard the 4th set, seeing as how it's resilient, I topped. I don't regret topping at all.

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otherwise, a very nice grow, and I predict you'll love Joey's C99 ...

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Thanks.

Lookin good in my opinion. Im no expert, but they look like they r loving life right now.
I dont think there is a more gorgeous shade of green than a young MJ. They r just so vibrant looking, u kno..

Tonight (Day 31 of Veg.) was the first night of LST. I watered last night; slowly pulled them over this evening.

It exposed a lot of little potential bud sites :thumbsup:

BTW: Last night the feeding was:

• 3 tsp Grow Big
• 1 tsp Growth Excel
• 2 tsp Liquid Karma

I am SO glad I am on the pH levels now....the feeding before pH Up was like 4.0-4.3. Adjusted with 30(!) drops or so of pH up.

Looking awesome:thumbsup:...
btw. is this c99 a indica dominant plant ??

Zeb Cindy is a sativa but low smell and an easier sativa to grow and from what ive herd does not get super tall. Looking good Norkali my grow has stopped for personal issues but soon enough ill be back on it again starting with these cindyxnl seeds i got from HD!

I've never personally LST'd before, and want to know how these suckers look.

The haven't shown sex, yet. I hope they do soon so I can have some more room.

Any advice? Noticeable problems? Opinions? :D

Thanks guys.

Norkali how often r u watering???

How long do u expect tell u start 12/12????

Also ur gro is looking WONERFUL man, keep it up, i expect very nice kolas :detective1: I can only hope mine look that vigerous at a month. :hippy:

lst is looking good keep it up. just wait til you got tons of side branches to lst. if you need to free up some foliage you can trim the leaf fingers in half or what i started doing is just taking 1-3 of the smaller fingers off so the leaves are 3-4 fingered.

Thanks Cwesto and Iriebowl. :thumbsup:

I water every 3-5 days, depending on conditions. I also have started to foliar feed with Growth excel and Wet Betty Organic as well. The regimen is 2 nights feeding, 1 night just h2o (foliarlly applied), then 1 night w/o any foliar app. The cycle restarts the next night. (Tonight, 11/18 (Day 33) the little babies will get the 100% h20 application.)

The Growth Excel and Wet Betty have DEFINITELY made a difference...If I get around to it I will look back to see when I first started using the Growth Excel/Wet Betty and compare the couple days of before and after pics.

And speaking of 12/12...

Pre-flowers have just started to show!! This morning I woke up to check on my LST'ing job and whadaya know? Two of the girls(!) have started to show pre-flowers. Although super tiny still. I am almost sure that each of the two little nubs had even tinier mini-pistils starting to emerge! As soon as I can sex these things I can determine when I will be switching over to 12/12; If all are female (hah!) then I'll start 12/12 now and hope to god that they all fit. Most likely, 1 or 2 will be male, I'll get those outta there, make some more room, continue to train the remaining ladies a little bit, and then throw them into flower.

I'll keep ya updated!!

P.S. Where are Weedhound and Dizzy1? They were regulars on my last log....where is everybody?....No love for Norkali? BTW, lol, not you Cwesto. Thanks for the positive feedback man. :jointsmile: