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So, if the 3rd dimension is made of the purely physical realm (where we are now) the 4th would be the purely spiritual. right? ok.
I was wondering what other people's thoughts on the 4th dimension are..
its a fascinating subject, i think. :)
i wonder what existance is like living in the 2nd dimension? or the 11th? crazy concepts :eek:
Huh?
The term 3-dimensional means as in an X-Y-Z space. (height, width depth).
How can you have a 2d, 3rd, or 4th dimension? 2-dimensional simply means only in an X-Y space (objects only have a surface, no interior.. width, height, no depth)
Most people assume that we live in 3-dimensional space, but this is wrong. We actually live in 4-dimensional space; the 4th dimension is time.
i have no idea what the 5th, 6th, or 7th dimensions would be, though.. let alone the 11th :eek:
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
hmm so do you believe in other dimensions ghost? :confused:
im under the distinct impression that theres other layers to this universe that we have yet to experience...
maybe we get a chance to experience higher levels of existance (4D,5D,6D) once we "graduate" the lower levels :)
Take 500mg DXM and read the book "A Lucid View". You'll completely understand the 4th dimension.. or go insane in the process of attempting to.
The fourth dimension is spatial, though we cannot perceive it as such. It is actually time... Lemme know if I should go into more depth, as my theory ties into both string theory and Einstein's reletivity...
yeah I see what youre saying.. I dunno about other dimensions and universes.. It would be awesome, though.. Like,
You: "damn, i'm all out of weed... wait, i know!!"
**Picks up the phone**
Phone: "Ring ring... ring ring"
You from an alternate dimension: "hello?"
You: "Hey man!! Its me, you, from an different dimension. how you doing? yea, good, anyway, im all out of weed, so if you can just......."
Phone: "Dial tone..."
You: "He hung up. :( Me from an alternate dimension sucks"
Okay, so maybe it wouldnt be so good
lol I already said that, bro.. I decided not to answer whether I believe in other dimensions, coz it would have meant me explaining what i know of string theory, relativity, and quantum mechanics, so i decided not to lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Buck268
im pretty sure time isnt a dimension. its a way of measuring, space isnt just a watch clicking away, although it can be used as a figure of speech. think about it, "time" was made by us, it has nothing to do with the physical function of things.
please do go more in depth cuz i dont see how someone can say that time is a dimension.
time is the fourth dimension
My bad Ghost, I guess sometimes I just get jumpy and lazy and dont read through everything... Nice links though
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
hehe that scenario sounds more like an alternate reality or universe ...i dont know if you could exist in two dimensions at once like that.. :confused:
on the topic of alternate realities/universes..i personally find the concept difficult to take seriously. the 11th dimension? ok fine i can dig...but universe #2? hm. :D
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Originally Posted by Buck268
yea whats your theory? :)
There are different structures of the spirit world.Imagine a dartboard with 5 rings.The centre is earth,then etheric plane,astral plane,mental plane and celestial plane.Each one from earth outwards vibrates at a higher frequency than the one before.
Earth is the darkest most dense of the worlds.
Theres the summerland too its the barrier between one dimension to the next.This is the plain described the most with near death experiences.Its a place of thought,created by beings on a higher dimension.Then theres even higher dimensions that lie beyond the astral plane that us as humans could not even comprehend.Theres alsoa dimension like hell.People have seen this side with near death exps too but is more likeley to be cold and bleak tahn hot and smoky
HOPE I DIDNT TALK TOO MUCH CRAP i believe in these different planes.
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Originally Posted by jacquelyne
that was really cool. as i read that i was listening to cradle of filth and this really messed up demonic baby voice started speaking as i read that. hehe..anyway, as for the content itself that was very interesting. is this your personal theory or what? id like to know more about "summerland" or what did the greeks call it the elyasian fields? :)
if you lived in a 2 demensional world you would not understand the concept of putting something in a box with out taking a line out.
We live in the 3rd so we can't understand the 4th because we are limited.
What is that book called about "square" who lived in the 2nd demension and went to our demension and then when he went back to the 2nd nobody believed him about what could happen in the 4 th dememsion.??
I have read alot about that subject its very interesting to me and have spoken to people such as mediums that have told me alot of things and i believe i have even been to different dimensions while astral travel.I guess there would be alot of diff dimensions but i think they are the main ones.The summerland is believed also to be a plane that u go through to get to the next higher plane when u die also.Some people stay there for a short time while others may be there for many years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphoric
That's an interesting thought, but quite an old one too. The ancient Greeks and Romans believed something similar to you describe, the Earth being the center of a concentric series of levels, each with its own properties, and its own gods, of course :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jacquelyne
P.S.: I don't mean this in a bad way, I thought you might think it cool to know that some of the greatest civilizations of history thought the same way you did :)
That too what i believe i dont know about the god thing but i believe in these diff dimensions that you do have a kind of spiritual guide to help you even if you cant see them.I dont know about the greeks or romans i just know what i have learned about and believed for myself.That does make sense to me because they had civilisations much before us so there for had more people to study and realise that there are other planes of existence even if it is not physical.I only know what i think from say a spiritual point of view.
If your spirit or soul have ever left your body by accident or with your own will (OOBE)these dimensions will be much more real.I find this really hard to explain but i know anybody that has astral travelled and anyone can with practice will see these dimensions and remember them and where they travelled.Anyone ever do that ? Like see themselves laying down asleep on the bed while u are floating up near the roof ?
That is scary stuff the first time it happens if it was not induced yourself.
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Originally Posted by Euphoric
OK, lets see if I can quanify it in enlgish...
Take your three 'normal' spatial dminesions (x,y,z) and press them onto a fourth spatial dimension connecting all of existance into one infinitely spanning fabirc of existance. This would also correlate with Einsteins relativity due to the non-necessesity to exist the space-time continum, but also would coincide with his time-folds theory...
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Originally Posted by jacquelyne
Astral travel...wow now that sounds cool. what is it? :confused:
As for OOBEs ive had one or two! they were completely life-changing events... (before that point i wasnt sure if there was anything after death or anything else to life other than the physical/material)
Once i thought my soul entered the underworld for a short time after hours of deep meditation and visualizations. funny thing, really. i met somebody there...then the next day they appeared in real life (moved in next door). i was like :eek:
Well i was about 14 and it happened to me by accident the first time.I was just so scared so i slept with my mum till i was nearly 18 lol.When i was about 19 or 20 i looked into what happened to me it was so interesting and anyone can do it but it may take a few tries.There are lots of books on astral projection and very detailed instructions on how to do it.I can only do it very late at night when everyone is asleep and there is no noise as you need full concentration and sort of get yourself into a meditated kinda semi-consious state of mind.If you can meditate and have already had an OOBE you will be able to do it easy with not much practice because it has come naturally to you already.If you want me to get u some info on it i will look for some because i will be here all day if i try explaining.
Euphoric apparently it is the exact experience OOBE NDE and astral travel.
i dont think time in itself is a dimensional plane. its just a peice of the universal puzzle. but maybe it's a facet of it. what we can perceive of it...on the other hand, maybe you're right. i guess we'll see, eh?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by kuulbns
Let us assume that time is the 4th dimension, since we are confined to a lesser dimension, we cannot feel or see anything more than a projection of time. It is essentially equivalent to "flat land" falling through the 3rd dimension. Our understanding of time is limited at best and outright pathetic at worst..
http://www.coolphysics.com/4d/
HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Encatuse
Get yourself some DMT.
the universe (and by that i mean everything) is way too complicated for anyone (or humanity as a whole) to understand any of it
the universe is infinite so everything could happen
i have no idea what to think, although the phrase
"it all makes sense somehow, and its all true"
comes to mind
I would believe maybe a 4th dimension would be time? Think of what would happen if Time didnt exist. There wouldnt be anything. Right?
Time is just a human measurement of a sequence of events based on the sun-rise sun-set cycle of the earth.
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7997/
yea so i was reading this thread (totally awesome) and i came upon a thought that kind of stumped me...
humans perceive the world with 5 senses right
somehow shouldnt that tie into all this? i would think so.. i mean lol i confuse myself a lot.
well gosh lol i cant put my thought into actual words :confused:
somehow it makes sence in my head kind of
any help anyone? no?
the book was flatlandQuote:
Originally Posted by GooseBear
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Originally Posted by Euphoric
It's Simple. Caleb0
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Super Skanadian: ...
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Hurst 2 24 04: well
Super Skanadian: Well I wouldn't say smarter.
Hurst 2 24 04: not really i could go in depth
Hurst 2 24 04: you know what you learn and you know how to relate it to the world which is a concept most people dont get, or well it seems...
Hurst 2 24 04: you know what i mean?
Super Skanadian: I suppose
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Hurst 2 24 04: and its like lately
Hurst 2 24 04: its frusterating
Hurst 2 24 04: i cant get to people
Hurst 2 24 04: like really get to them
Super Skanadian: Get to them as in annoy them?
Hurst 2 24 04: and i know you dont think so but i am .....no caleb no
Hurst 2 24 04: anyways i am gah i understand so much like its crazy
Hurst 2 24 04: and only a few people i know i think get it
Hurst 2 24 04: like
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Hurst 2 24 04: i'm confused
Hurst 2 24 04: like you for example
Super Skanadian: You feel like your entire mind is speculation.
Hurst 2 24 04: get it i think i can kind of tell by the way you act and by the way ur brain works yea kind of to a degree, but not in the manner you think
Hurst 2 24 04: yea that thought came out totally wrong
Hurst 2 24 04: i've just been so scattered lately
Hurst 2 24 04: i wish you could understand i think i am talking to you because i think you WOULD understand like you can grasp large concepts
Super Skanadian: Well? Does your mind feel like total speculation?
Hurst 2 24 04: um yes and no
Hurst 2 24 04: yes i guess you would say from another persons oint of view
Super Skanadian: ...That wasn't a good answer.
Hurst 2 24 04: from mine though
Hurst 2 24 04: it kind of all makes sence
Hurst 2 24 04: like everything
Hurst 2 24 04: in a vast kind of way
Super Skanadian: Well I know that my mind was full of speculation when I was thinking like you are now.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea, like, ok gosh
Hurst 2 24 04: i dont want you to think i am big headed
Super Skanadian: Like you can't put your ideas into words.
Hurst 2 24 04: yessssss
Super Skanadian: No, proceed.
Hurst 2 24 04: they work out in my head
Hurst 2 24 04: they really do
Hurst 2 24 04: like i feel like i understand everything, but dont understand why
Super Skanadian: I know exactly what you mean, I was there once, but I've gotten better at explaining myself.
Hurst 2 24 04: i feel like i am smarter ( i hate the word smarter too thats so weird...) but yea like oh gosh
Super Skanadian: I think the word you are looking for is "intellectual"
Hurst 2 24 04: but not smarter because i feel like smart brings to mind book worms and people who understand things but dont understand things
Hurst 2 24 04: like they understand things to a POINT
Hurst 2 24 04: but they cant take it to the next level
Hurst 2 24 04: liike put everything together
Hurst 2 24 04: and i really truely feel like i can, to an extent
Super Skanadian: Yeah I know what you mean
Hurst 2 24 04: like everything i learn i have always understood it but i am just now realising that not everybody understands everything the way i do and they cant get the concept of everything tought to us is related together and you can use one thing you learn to solve so many other things like i can just think about something i have never thought about and take all the knowledge and put it together and bada bam i have an answer
Super Skanadian: Yes congratulations, you should feel happy for yourself.
Super Skanadian: Lo
Hurst 2 24 04: golllllllllly lol
Hurst 2 24 04: shut up
Super Skanadian: I've been able to do that since I was oh say...twelve.
Hurst 2 24 04: I HAVeeeeeee i just didnt realise i could
Hurst 2 24 04: you know what i mean
Super Skanadian: It's basically where you use your current knowledge to make an extremely educated guess and you end up right.
Hurst 2 24 04: and i am just thirteen so one year wow a long time not
Hurst 2 24 04: yes
Super Skanadian: Most people can't do this however.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i no
Super Skanadian: For example...
Super Skanadian: I can look at words and usually find the basis of them just by seeing them
Super Skanadian: Like the root word.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea me too... easily usually
Super Skanadian: Or what a word means
Hurst 2 24 04: yea see most of the time i dont look at the root word if there is one i just kind of know
Hurst 2 24 04: you know?
Super Skanadian: LIke in English today, Mrs. Crutcher went off on another escapade about the beginnings of the English language.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea lol ive heard about that and her go on
Hurst 2 24 04: but wait
Super Skanadian: We ended up talking about Greek Gods and I could easily pick out what they were the gods of simply by their names.
Hurst 2 24 04: stop typiong can i see soemthing
Hurst 2 24 04: ok give me an example
Super Skanadian: Cronus
Super Skanadian: What is he the god of.
Hurst 2 24 04: um dont know lol dont think liek that..
Super Skanadian: He is the god of Time and the Sky.
Super Skanadian: See any connections with words of today and his name?
Super Skanadian: It's that simple.
Super Skanadian: I just think of words similar to the word in question.
Hurst 2 24 04: like cro um clock... chronological.. umm ... nus um nimbus... a type of cloud
Hurst 2 24 04: lol way off eh
Super Skanadian: Uh no
Super Skanadian: That's it.
Super Skanadian: Chronological
Super Skanadian: Chrono = Cronus
Hurst 2 24 04: wow i feel smart
Hurst 2 24 04: ive never thought about it like that yet i picked it up SEE WHAT I MEAN CRAZY DUDE
Super Skanadian: THat's the thing about this, don't let it get to your head.
Hurst 2 24 04: why?
Super Skanadian: It could make you feel overconfident and "big headed" as you put it.
Super Skanadian: I think you get the skill from hanging around me so much, though. Lol just kidding.
Hurst 2 24 04: i think it would be a good thing.. even if i do end up going mad.. so did albert einstien and look what a great impact he had on society and even the total way of thinking as a whole
Super Skanadian: It doesn't mean your going mad.
Hurst 2 24 04: well in literal terms
Hurst 2 24 04: as what other people would percieve it as
Hurst 2 24 04: but yes i know what you mean
Super Skanadian: It's simple; all it means is that you can connect things with educated guesses.
Hurst 2 24 04: its just a totally different way of thinking
Super Skanadian: It took me a near three years to figure that one out.
Hurst 2 24 04: really?
Hurst 2 24 04: like ok here
Super Skanadian: Well think about it; your actually quite lucky
Hurst 2 24 04: i have a theory and i think its right
Hurst 2 24 04: oh i know
Hurst 2 24 04: very lucky
Super Skanadian: To have me tell you
Hurst 2 24 04: think of the statistics
Super Skanadian: What it is your going through
Super Skanadian: I had no idea
Super Skanadian: I'll go on ahead and tell you for a couple of months I'd thought I'd gone mad, too.
Hurst 2 24 04: like yes
Hurst 2 24 04: exactly
Super Skanadian: And that dragged me into some depression.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i saw that one comming
Hurst 2 24 04: if i thought like this all the time i would be so dissconected with the way society is structured
Hurst 2 24 04: but soooo wassss albert einstien
Super Skanadian: Heh, and I was that way
Super Skanadian: Hence why people call me anti social.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i think i'm headed in that direction
Super Skanadian: Some of the habits don't break.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea figured
Hurst 2 24 04: like its always been there i just never really understood it it kind of just hit me
Hurst 2 24 04: one day or week
Super Skanadian: Well I doubt you'll get it that bad since I explained some things.
Hurst 2 24 04: oh yea i know that other people think the way i do because well again common knowledge lol how would we have the type of technology that we have today unless somebody was smart enough to take everything and take it to the next level
Hurst 2 24 04: but see you being a natural pesimist i think we have the same problem you just went in a different direction
Hurst 2 24 04: well than i hope to go
Super Skanadian: Just because they take it to the next level doesn't mean they think the same way as us.
Hurst 2 24 04: yes yes i know
Super Skanadian: Yeah, you don't want to go my direction.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea and like i get why i have always been drawn to you now
Hurst 2 24 04: cause i duno i sensed i guess that you were soemthing more if that makes sense
Super Skanadian: Please, flattery will get you no where.
Super Skanadian: Joking, joking.
Hurst 2 24 04: i'm NOT lol rreally
Super Skanadian: I don't consider I'm something more.
Super Skanadian: just that I look at things a different way than others.
Hurst 2 24 04: i know
Super Skanadian: Another dimension almost.
Hurst 2 24 04: same
Hurst 2 24 04: OMG
Hurst 2 24 04: fdjskafjsdkal
Hurst 2 24 04: lol WOW
Super Skanadian: Though many people will become this way by the end of highschool.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea and i've noticed
Hurst 2 24 04: went to books a million today
Super Skanadian: Lol for what?
Hurst 2 24 04: come on genius figure it out
Hurst 2 24 04: lol
Hurst 2 24 04: BOOKS a million
Super Skanadian: They sell other stuff there you know.
Hurst 2 24 04: well yea i know but come on lol
Super Skanadian: Anyway, what book.
Hurst 2 24 04: flatland
Hurst 2 24 04: didnt have it ended up getting two other ones tho
Super Skanadian: I could guess what that talks of.
Hurst 2 24 04: go ahead
Hurst 2 24 04: i know your right
Super Skanadian: Well, what with your talk of dimensions and whatnot lately, I assume it has something to do with that? Though I'm actually not sure on this one.
Hurst 2 24 04: yep correctamongo
Hurst 2 24 04: like the 5th deminsion really intrigues me
Hurst 2 24 04: its like i get everything else so i look for something i dont get
Super Skanadian: See the way we think, is also that we use clues that are said from recent times from those around us.
Hurst 2 24 04: thought i think i have a better concept of it than 90% of society
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Hurst 2 24 04: me too....
Hurst 2 24 04: so actually lol sense you brought it up, i think i have mastered the concept of the 4th demension, and i think i have well some good ideas lol whether you believe it or not
Hurst 2 24 04: about 5th demensions and suck
Hurst 2 24 04: such
Super Skanadian: And what of the fourth dimension.
Hurst 2 24 04: you havent heard of it?
Hurst 2 24 04: :-)???????
Hurst 2 24 04: lol get joy out of one upping you
Super Skanadian: Of course I've heard of it, I'm asking for you ideas on the subject.
Hurst 2 24 04: well if i can translate it into words
Super Skanadian: No joy here; I just shot your balloon.
Hurst 2 24 04: lol no you didnt i figured, pesimist
Hurst 2 24 04: but anyways 4th demension and such
Super Skanadian: I'd like to see you one up me on much of anything.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea believe it or not i'd like to see you do the same
Hurst 2 24 04: thinking that is lol
Super Skanadian: Wait what?
Super Skanadian: Thinking that is...?
Hurst 2 24 04: i'd like to see you one up me on thinking
Super Skanadian: Thinking of what...
Hurst 2 24 04: anything you name it
Hurst 2 24 04: but let me tell you
Super Skanadian: The technicalities of flight.
Hurst 2 24 04: you probibly have heard of some stuff i havent but i am pretty sure i could pick it up quite easily
Hurst 2 24 04: oh i know this
Super Skanadian: I'd like to see how much you know of this.
Hurst 2 24 04: well i could think about it for forever
Hurst 2 24 04: what area of thinking though?
Hurst 2 24 04: like how it is actually possible or how the people came up with the idea or how i i i you know
Super Skanadian: Tell me everything that is a force upon a plane during flight.
Hurst 2 24 04: the friction of the air
Hurst 2 24 04: sense it is a state of matter
Hurst 2 24 04: which most people dont get but yea
Hurst 2 24 04: the air like swirls around
Hurst 2 24 04: the wings
Hurst 2 24 04: causeing an upward force
Hurst 2 24 04: agains the wings from underneith i suppose
Super Skanadian: Yes.
Hurst 2 24 04: it has to overcome the gravity
Hurst 2 24 04: and the friction of the particles of air
Hurst 2 24 04: it has to coast along the air
Hurst 2 24 04: get up high enough
Hurst 2 24 04: balanced out
Hurst 2 24 04: stable i guess
Super Skanadian: High enough for what, elaborate.
Hurst 2 24 04: high enough to where... (total guess so yea)
Hurst 2 24 04: um the air is thinner
Hurst 2 24 04: as the air rises it gets thinner
Super Skanadian: Not exactly
Hurst 2 24 04: the particles are more spread apart
Hurst 2 24 04: well ok dont shoot me down yet
Hurst 2 24 04: give me another chance
Hurst 2 24 04: ok its kind of similar to a boat i suppose
Hurst 2 24 04: you have to get the boat up on plane" "
Super Skanadian: And I have the answer all typed out.
Hurst 2 24 04: because liquid is a state of matter too you know but yea and well
Hurst 2 24 04: earodynamics
Hurst 2 24 04: aero
Super Skanadian: The main reason a plane would want to get higher is to escape turbulence from clouds and other weather.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i could have gotten to that lol
Hurst 2 24 04: eventually
Super Skanadian: You were right for most part
Super Skanadian: Here's another easy one:
Hurst 2 24 04: and like i learned a neet little trick of which my mind elaborated
Hurst 2 24 04: lol big words!
Hurst 2 24 04: hold up
Hurst 2 24 04: me first!
Super Skanadian: Alright
Hurst 2 24 04: you take the a peice of paper
Hurst 2 24 04: put it under your mouth and blow
Hurst 2 24 04: and the paper rises
Hurst 2 24 04: like you can try or whatever buit i'm sure you get it without trying
Super Skanadian: Actually I'm not sure if I remember the idea behind this; I remember doing this as an experiment in elementary school; however.
Hurst 2 24 04: oh heres a thought afther ur done
Hurst 2 24 04: say ur other easy one
Super Skanadian: I think the heat is a major factor in the rising but I can't be sure.
Super Skanadian: Well mine was (While we were on the subject of planes) How does stealth technology work.
Hurst 2 24 04: it could be in that it makes particles speed up am i on the right track kind og
Hurst 2 24 04: steath technology, never heard of it but like i have a lot of ideas
Hurst 2 24 04: first thing that comes to mind would be
Hurst 2 24 04: military uses... correct?
Super Skanadian: Yes.
Hurst 2 24 04: elaborate?
Super Skanadian: Used on airplanes to penetrate deeply into enemy territory and to destroy predetermined target without notice.
Hurst 2 24 04: ok so two different things i think it could be though
Super Skanadian: Well here's a hint
Hurst 2 24 04: like steath as in it wait
Hurst 2 24 04: WAIT
Hurst 2 24 04: let me thinK!
Super Skanadian: Take into consideration how planes are detected.
Super Skanadian: There
Hurst 2 24 04: gosh
Super Skanadian: That's all I give you
Hurst 2 24 04: you gave it away
Super Skanadian: Bathroom for me
Super Skanadian: Uh no I didn't
Super Skanadian: Type your answer and I'll be back
Hurst 2 24 04: i already knew that was one of my ideas
Hurst 2 24 04: ok
Hurst 2 24 04: well steath as in quite of course but not actually quite in a sense of you cant hear it but quite or well you get me but how technology has a way of detecting things such as radar and what not but something that takes it to the next llevel by fooling the radar or whatever it might be
Hurst 2 24 04: you get back i have to feed the dogs brb
Super Skanadian: as in quite of course but not actually quite in a sense of you cant hear it but quite or well
Super Skanadian: Lol
Super Skanadian: That's a rather confusing phrase
Hurst 2 24 04: lol its the way i think but i knew u'd get it
Super Skanadian: I think you meant QUIET in some of those parts
Hurst 2 24 04: explain
Super Skanadian: That would be important when expressing your thoughts; that you at least spell correctly
Hurst 2 24 04: yea but i have done research on that too lol spelling isnt a form of intellegance
Hurst 2 24 04: but i already knoew that kind of
Super Skanadian: It is apart of your intelligence.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea literal intelligance
Super Skanadian: Precisely.
Super Skanadian: Now then
Super Skanadian: Back to my question.
Hurst 2 24 04: wait one second
Hurst 2 24 04: you get literal intellegance? cause i made that one up, didnt make it up but i like figured it out without reading about it or anything...
Hurst 2 24 04: ok satisfaaaactIoN go on
Hurst 2 24 04: question
Super Skanadian: Well it's not that it's an official word or anything.
Hurst 2 24 04: stop there
Hurst 2 24 04: its just a thought
Hurst 2 24 04: right
Hurst 2 24 04: its just a thought put into a form of communication
Super Skanadian: But you could easily say there is such a thing as literal intelligence and it be a valid statement
Super Skanadian: What is?
Hurst 2 24 04: well i guess i was getting into another area of words and my oppinion
Hurst 2 24 04: that came out wrong
Hurst 2 24 04: another area--words as i think in depth about them
Hurst 2 24 04: you know you get it
Hurst 2 24 04: right??
Super Skanadian: Yes I think so.
Hurst 2 24 04: o0oh can i elaborate just one second lol its soo fun
Hurst 2 24 04: well in my oppinion we are just animals as the rest of everything that enhabits earth is but our mind is to a higher level so we grunted and then we used symbols and then on and on and so forth and such ... but all it really is is a way of communicating the thoughts we had in the first place, but "evolved" as you could say... and if yout hink about how the past is progressing and the way words have changed i can only assume that we will make so make more words and speacking style will get so much more complex i mean gosh think about how much it has changed in just the last 100 years and all the technology that arises and everything we like discover and even new totally different ways of thinking its all thoughts and words OK ILL STOP lol
Hurst 2 24 04: and communication styles have also arose such as what we are doing right now .. talking on the computer which is a total umm you know (cant think of the word lol) new CONCEPT there we go... but we are progressing so fast with it you know
Hurst 2 24 04: which makes me BELIEVE that more forms of communication will arise
Super Skanadian: Yeah I'm glad to see you have some common sense...
Hurst 2 24 04: oh TONS of it
Hurst 2 24 04: but no more than you
Super Skanadian: Things can ONLY progress forward.
Hurst 2 24 04: yes of course
Super Skanadian: Lest there was World War 3
Super Skanadian: Or some major disaster which reverted us to this point of a lower intelligence as you put it.
Hurst 2 24 04: history repeats itsself... ehh... never really bought that one.. i guess in a SENSE as in fashoin or whatever but i mean what is fashion really? its just a made up concept by the brain by people who cant grasp the world so they make up things in a sense
Hurst 2 24 04: fdsask lol OK i wish i could just chill for a bit but everything is so deep
Super Skanadian: Ah, I see your atheist/agnostic views kicking in there.
Hurst 2 24 04: yep i knew tou would
Super Skanadian: Which I must disagree with.
Hurst 2 24 04: but see its not that i dont believe in a god necessarily
Super Skanadian: So you're Agnostic?
Hurst 2 24 04: its just that i question it highly and uintill i do my research
Hurst 2 24 04: yea lol
Hurst 2 24 04: and i am doing my research
Hurst 2 24 04: kind of but not the way u would think i dont think
Super Skanadian: Well most research on the internet will be trying to disapprove God.
Super Skanadian: You'll see none of them can.
Hurst 2 24 04: i know, there comes a point where its kind of like
Hurst 2 24 04: well we can figure out everything about everything but it still doesnt answer WHY everything is everything
Hurst 2 24 04: annnnnd ta da
Hurst 2 24 04: religion
Super Skanadian: SOME religions; that is.
Hurst 2 24 04: yes i understand that
Hurst 2 24 04: ones with gods and a higher power
Hurst 2 24 04: so to speak
Super Skanadian: The Bible never says that it was made to explain things; some religions DO state that they were made specifically for that.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea, and i beleive that if the bible is real
Hurst 2 24 04: that is was never meant to be taken seriously
Hurst 2 24 04: just as an analogy i guess
Hurst 2 24 04: somet hings
Super Skanadian: If the bible is real it's not meant to be taken seriously?
Super Skanadian: What?
Hurst 2 24 04: like not SERIOUSly
Hurst 2 24 04: wrong word
Hurst 2 24 04: literally
Hurst 2 24 04: there we go
Hurst 2 24 04: meant to be taken seriously but doesnt explain everything, leaves room for questioning
Hurst 2 24 04: because if it explained everything we would have no point in living i suppose
Super Skanadian: Oh there are perhaps some things that aren't meant to be taken literaly.
Super Skanadian: But most of it is.
Hurst 2 24 04: in your views that is
Hurst 2 24 04: i guess i know where you are comming from
Super Skanadian: The only part that is arguable to be not taken literally would be Paul's phrophecies in Revelations.
Hurst 2 24 04: like it could show that there is more to life than what we can comprehend
Super Skanadian: Oh and we'd have point in living.
Hurst 2 24 04: i guess i dont really know, i have many of thougts
Super Skanadian: Our point would be to worship and praise him.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea but we would get out of control (if things are the way they are now) but then again
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Hurst 2 24 04: you get me
Super Skanadian: Get out of control? When?
Hurst 2 24 04: but he gave us a choise
Hurst 2 24 04: like i guess if we knew everything then we would know that god is real and nobody would question it therefore we would all just praise
Hurst 2 24 04: but there is so many different variables well infinate since it is hypothetically speaking
Super Skanadian: ...
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i lost you?
Super Skanadian: This just brought another thing to my mind.
Hurst 2 24 04: go on
Hurst 2 24 04: go go go
Super Skanadian: Sorry; my dad came up here and was being stupid.
Super Skanadian: Okay:
Super Skanadian: What is your opinion on fate.
Hurst 2 24 04: dont have one, i've thought about it in depth before but i get to a dead end for the most part, well a dead end to you, endless amount of possibilites to me
Hurst 2 24 04: just hard to explain
Hurst 2 24 04: like i see everything from a lot of different viewpoints for the most part
Hurst 2 24 04: (talent lol)
Hurst 2 24 04: and it confuses me because being agnostic
Super Skanadian: Uh know.
Super Skanadian: No*
Hurst 2 24 04: whatever
Super Skanadian: Looking at things with different viewpoints is something that a whole lot of people do
Hurst 2 24 04: i know but well i dotn know a lot of people jump to conclusions is what i have to say
Hurst 2 24 04: they chose sides so to speak
Hurst 2 24 04: i look at most things generally, without sides
Hurst 2 24 04: to make sure i have the full comprehension of it i guess
Super Skanadian: You're not the only one who does that.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea and i'm not the only one who thinks in depth about every single little thing but its rare to say the least
Hurst 2 24 04: you there
Super Skanadian: Yeah
Hurst 2 24 04: just checkin
Hurst 2 24 04: my brain hurts so yea
Super Skanadian: Wow we've barely been going at it and your brain hurts?
Hurst 2 24 04: i have a fever of 101.8 and a horrific cough give me a break lol
Super Skanadian: Well I have a nasty sore throat.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Super Skanadian: I've had it since Friday
Hurst 2 24 04: i can feel my head its so hot and uncomfortable
Hurst 2 24 04: me too but its gettin worse ugh
Super Skanadian: So now can I finally get my question answered?
Super Skanadian: What does Will say.
Hurst 2 24 04: we havent gone so deep with it but yes he truely does get it, well i dont know if he gets exactly how we think, but he deffinatly is a very intellegant guy and out of the box thinker like you and i, but on how many levels i dont know yet
Hurst 2 24 04: but i will tell you
Hurst 2 24 04: if we talk about it if he understands completely
Super Skanadian: brb
Hurst 2 24 04: k
Hurst 2 24 04: question when u get back
Super Skanadian: back
Hurst 2 24 04: ok what makes me feel so bad is that jessie doesnt make the connection lol i am trying to show her right now
Hurst 2 24 04: like i want to be a college professor so ya but read
Hurst 2 24 04 wants to directly connect.
Hurst 2 24 04 cancels request; no connection was made. (Note: For best results, you and your buddy should use the latest version of AIM.).
Hurst 2 24 04: or not
Super Skanadian: Uh...okay.
Hurst 2 24 04: you didnt connect
Super Skanadian: It said you canceled
Hurst 2 24 04: well you didnt accept
Hurst 2 24 04 wants to directly connect.
Hurst 2 24 04 cancels request; no connection was made. (Note: For best results, you and your buddy should use the latest version of AIM.).
Hurst 2 24 04: oh well i will tell you about it tomorrow
Hurst 2 24 04: if u want
Super Skanadian: What else does Will say; you're not being specific enough and you know it.
Hurst 2 24 04: we talked about a lot but it was at like 2 or 4 in the morning i was kind of dazy, but what comes to mind
Hurst 2 24 04: is him trying to explain to me
Hurst 2 24 04: what it would be like in the 4th demension
Hurst 2 24 04: because i ahd brought it up
Hurst 2 24 04: and he was like omg i am reading a book about it
Super Skanadian: Lmao off.
Hurst 2 24 04: and so he tried to explain it
Hurst 2 24 04: lol
Hurst 2 24 04: not knowing
Hurst 2 24 04: that i already knew..
Hurst 2 24 04: but he did a surprisingly good job of it
Super Skanadian: If the fourth dimension is real; then we're already in it!
Hurst 2 24 04: yes
Hurst 2 24 04: i know
Super Skanadian: There's no "be in it".
Hurst 2 24 04: but if we could see it
Hurst 2 24 04: sense it rather
Hurst 2 24 04: thats the whole hypercube
Hurst 2 24 04: like i know its abstract but ya i dk if you actually get this one
Super Skanadian: What one?
Hurst 2 24 04: what i am trying to say
Hurst 2 24 04: like if we could "see" time, we sense it and we know its there but like if we could master it, kind of like how bats can see sound
Super Skanadian: By the way, have you happened to read any documents or books discussing that Time isn't the fourth dimension?
Hurst 2 24 04: no but i have questioned it if thats what your getting at
Super Skanadian: Questioning isn't enough; you still haven't researched the other side; therefore, upon these grounds I could easily claim you a hyprocrite.
Super Skanadian: Not that I will
Hurst 2 24 04: no, see i am totally not
Hurst 2 24 04: thats the thing
Hurst 2 24 04: its just that the concept makes so much sense to me
Hurst 2 24 04: but thats just me
Hurst 2 24 04: and yes
Hurst 2 24 04: i ahev thought
Super Skanadian: Thought of what?
Hurst 2 24 04: well sence we dont see it or anything that could just be the way it is, like nothing more, so to speak anyways like there is no way we could get to it, therefor its not a demension
Hurst 2 24 04: kind of
Hurst 2 24 04: but yea i prefer to think on the positive and you the negative
Super Skanadian: Naturally
Hurst 2 24 04: yep
Hurst 2 24 04: so heres one for you tho
Hurst 2 24 04: what do you think about why we understand and other people dont::
Super Skanadian: Oh this is an interesting topic, I will say.
Hurst 2 24 04: i knoW!!!
Hurst 2 24 04: srry go on
Super Skanadian: I've thought about why people don't seem to have the mental capacities that we do.
Hurst 2 24 04: yep
Hurst 2 24 04: lol soo cool that like i know what ur gonna say kind of well i think
Hurst 2 24 04: but yea go on
Super Skanadian: I think it depends upon how much information one has been exposed to and/or how much they have exposed themselves, too. The differences that you can see are astounding once you see different points of view on a topic.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea it all depends on every well a lot of variables such as the surrounding the parents the types of things exposed to as a child and i cant help but think to an extent some people it comes naturally
Super Skanadian: That's the conclusion I've mainly come to after thinking a long time.
Hurst 2 24 04: to an extent that is tho because well i think it is all explained in scientific terms
Super Skanadian: No I don't really think it comes naturally.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i kinda took that one back lol
Super Skanadian: Not instinctively at least.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Hurst 2 24 04: like naturally as in the structure of the dna and such from genes and from the parents
Super Skanadian: It's exploitation to so many different information facets, such as the internet and books.
Super Skanadian: THat kind of naturally would be an instinct.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea and whether also i think if there is a natural drive for a real understanding of the world or if they are satisfied with what they are givin and dont go into depth may it be they dont know how to/ dont want to/ cant
Hurst 2 24 04: but see i think everyone CAN
Hurst 2 24 04: they just dont try
Hurst 2 24 04: and i think everyone would want to
Hurst 2 24 04: because it is natural for someone to know more about their surroundings
Super Skanadian: Well not everyone can in the same way that we do.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea i know
Hurst 2 24 04: they get at dead ends
Hurst 2 24 04: mentally
Super Skanadian: Look at people living on the plains of Africa.
Hurst 2 24 04: so they put up like a wall to the whole idea
Hurst 2 24 04: that there is anything more
Hurst 2 24 04: than just boys and lipgloss
Hurst 2 24 04: and that is why i think
Super Skanadian: They may have a thirst for knowledge with no way to get any.
Hurst 2 24 04: the preps are so into it, like boys and stuff
Hurst 2 24 04: because the brain has the carpasity for knowledge
Hurst 2 24 04: but doesnt understand it
Hurst 2 24 04: so they dwell on other things
Hurst 2 24 04: to me are pointless
Super Skanadian: It's not like girls understand boys.
Hurst 2 24 04: and i know i do it but i can turn it off
Hurst 2 24 04: but you get what i mean dont you
Hurst 2 24 04: the guys are guilty of it too
Hurst 2 24 04: and society as a whole i think
Super Skanadian: Well that's obvious
Hurst 2 24 04: hense why we are so obessed with movie stars
Super Skanadian: Well our society at least.
Hurst 2 24 04: well some people are
Hurst 2 24 04: thats kinda what i mean the literal world and nonliteral
Hurst 2 24 04: you know?
Hurst 2 24 04: people who just dont get it and people who do, in lamons terms
Super Skanadian: No I don't. I don't see how not being literal is a world upon its own and I think you're probably looking for another word to use.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Hurst 2 24 04: it works out in my head
Hurst 2 24 04: like
Hurst 2 24 04: not a world to its own
Hurst 2 24 04: just
Hurst 2 24 04: the way of thinking, as a whole
Hurst 2 24 04: can be so different
Hurst 2 24 04: and i must say
Hurst 2 24 04: most people eventually grow out of it for the most part
Hurst 2 24 04: the immaturity about knowledge at least
Hurst 2 24 04: and come to an understanding SOMEWHAT
Super Skanadian: I think you mean the ignorance of knowledge.
Hurst 2 24 04: if you get what i mean
Hurst 2 24 04: yes
Super Skanadian: ANd those people, I hate.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea, like jessie nestra
Super Skanadian: People that are air heads, like her.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Super Skanadian: Michelle McCloud.
Hurst 2 24 04: kelsey layer
Super Skanadian: And many others that I won't get started with.
Hurst 2 24 04: casey stockwell
Super Skanadian: It really pisses me off.
Hurst 2 24 04: lol yea
Hurst 2 24 04: YES me too
Super Skanadian: When
Hurst 2 24 04: when what
Super Skanadian: people have no idea about what their talking about and talk like they know....
Super Skanadian: And they don't understand another person's situation at all.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Hurst 2 24 04: its like their mind is so confined
Hurst 2 24 04: to the smallest amount of knowledge necessary
Super Skanadian: Yeah
Super Skanadian: Basically
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Super Skanadian: They think the world revolves around them.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea
Super Skanadian: They are actually surprised when they see that people aren't as well off as they are.
Super Skanadian: *Cough* Michelle *Cough*
Hurst 2 24 04: lol yea like today
Hurst 2 24 04: i was totally in this whole state of thinking
Hurst 2 24 04: and
Hurst 2 24 04: whats her face Ashley Randles comes up to me
Hurst 2 24 04: and is like
Hurst 2 24 04: hahaha your so short!!
Hurst 2 24 04: and i give her this like WRETCHED look lol and i go thanks.. no really thanks
Hurst 2 24 04: and shes like
Hurst 2 24 04: whatttt its cuuuteee
Hurst 2 24 04: or soemthing stupid lol
Hurst 2 24 04: and i was like do you reallly thinkg i dont know i am short, not that it even matters
Hurst 2 24 04: HA and i lost her
Hurst 2 24 04: that quick
Hurst 2 24 04: it was funny
Super Skanadian: lol
Hurst 2 24 04: yea lol
Hurst 2 24 04: and like sence your a pesimist you dont talkt o people about this normally do you
Super Skanadian: Uh huh...
Super Skanadian: I've never really talked to anyone about any of those
Super Skanadian: this*
Hurst 2 24 04: yea and i get that
Hurst 2 24 04: and you can conclude of course ...lol.. sence i am an optomist...
Hurst 2 24 04: yea you get it
Super Skanadian: ...
Hurst 2 24 04: well maybe not
Hurst 2 24 04: since i am well i wouldnt say optomist but i dont look on the bas side of things i think the way i think is like so rare and good and like that i want to share it with everybody who doesnt understand
Super Skanadian: Yeah I figured that was what you were getting at but I wasn't sure if you had a deeper meaning.
Hurst 2 24 04: i do lol in my mind
Hurst 2 24 04: hard to translate
Hurst 2 24 04: soemtimes i just cant
Super Skanadian: Yeah but I can mostly tell who has what we have simply by observing them.
Hurst 2 24 04: me too
Hurst 2 24 04: havent we talked about his
Super Skanadian: No..
Super Skanadian: And what do you look for when observing someone for what we have.
Hurst 2 24 04: i look behind their actions
Hurst 2 24 04: every action is for a reason
Hurst 2 24 04: basically but they dont get it
Hurst 2 24 04: and the way you act
Hurst 2 24 04: like i could tell
Super Skanadian: I mean something more specific than actions.
Hurst 2 24 04: because you werent into clothes
Super Skanadian: Like symptoms.
Hurst 2 24 04: ok like umm lets start with eric
Hurst 2 24 04: yo knwo Eric Chastain
Hurst 2 24 04: well i am in science with him
Hurst 2 24 04: he sits right next to me
Hurst 2 24 04: i started observing him deeply in science one day and he really does try
Hurst 2 24 04: like he just really doesnt get science
Hurst 2 24 04: but see he tries to act like it doesnt matter to him
Hurst 2 24 04: by making jokes and stuff
Hurst 2 24 04: because the idea of jokes and what not you know
Hurst 2 24 04: is so much simpler
Hurst 2 24 04: so he confines that
Hurst 2 24 04: unknowingly of course
Hurst 2 24 04: but yea thats kind of how he works, and like today
Hurst 2 24 04: he was joking around
Hurst 2 24 04: like most guys do
Hurst 2 24 04: (which i think is totally stupid i could elaborate but yea) about being gay
Hurst 2 24 04: you know
Hurst 2 24 04: the whole gay persona
Hurst 2 24 04: he thinks its funny
Hurst 2 24 04: and he understands it
Hurst 2 24 04: so its like he makes up for the lack of science
Hurst 2 24 04: by making jokes and putting more effort into things he comprehends
Hurst 2 24 04: WELL you get me
Hurst 2 24 04: lol
Super Skanadian: ...I don't see how those are symptoms for what we have.
Hurst 2 24 04: what do you mean by symptoms
Hurst 2 24 04: think about it tho
Super Skanadian: The way they act, and while those were the way Eric acts. He doesn't look that far beyond the boobs and body of a girl.
Super Skanadian: That's about as deep as his mind gets as far as I'm concerned.
Hurst 2 24 04: well i take it to the next level
Hurst 2 24 04: he IS concerned about boobs and stuff... partly instinctual...
Super Skanadian: I mean like...the kind of symptoms I look for.
Hurst 2 24 04: like what
Super Skanadian: Are do they translate their thoughts into words well, if not then I look at this as a sign of what we have.
Super Skanadian: Do they often stay quiet.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea but i was talking about eric specifically from what i have noticed in the last 2 days
Hurst 2 24 04: but i get what ur saying
Hurst 2 24 04: you know just a thought it would be fun to talk about this infront of jessie lol i think she would either like he hit hard with reality or totally dumbfounded
Super Skanadian: Do they talk a lot and have generally stupid opinions is another.
Super Skanadian: Dumbfounded, no doubt.
Hurst 2 24 04: yea thats what i thought, but its so hard to think that other people dont get it
Hurst 2 24 04: because its so real
Hurst 2 24 04: but yea
Hurst 2 24 04: and stupid oppinions yes
Hurst 2 24 04: eric has them
Hurst 2 24 04: but he isnt quiet
Super Skanadian: Exactly, both things that point towards him not having what he have.
Super Skanadian: we*
Hurst 2 24 04: yes which is obvious to us but to him, if we tried to explain to him this it would be like trying to explain sight to a blind person lol
Super Skanadian: He'd just be trying to crack jokes all the time.
Hurst 2 24 04: but i do believe that if he exercised his brain enough in that area like lets say hypothetically
Hurst 2 24 04: he was forced to learn about science and everything for the rest of his life
Super Skanadian: Well if anyone were to excercise their brain enough then they'd get to this point.
Hurst 2 24 04: i beleive eventually the concept would take place
Hurst 2 24 04: yes thats exactly what i mean
Super Skanadian: It's just that is where ignorance takes place
Super Skanadian: And people decide they do not want to learn more, and wallow in their stupidity.
Hurst 2 24 04: yep
Super Skanadian: Therefore, I laugh at them.
Hurst 2 24 04: yep
Hurst 2 24 04: and oh yea i've done it, but i'm sure you know first hand that i caouldnt have grasped this to the least if i havent been like this my whole life and just not made the connections you knoww/??
Hurst 2 24 04: like i had made the connections at POINTS to an EXTENT but i was too young to realise that
Hurst 2 24 04: or this or whatever i didnt know that it wasnt just something that happened to everyone
Hurst 2 24 04: yea and its not and like i just got that
Hurst 2 24 04: well
Hurst 2 24 04: kidna
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Originally Posted by Nullific
true...but you arent implying that time doesnt exist, right? :confused:
even if we had no measure for time we'd all still be in motion..
it'd be hella convient for showing up "late" for work tho...."hey you're late buddy.." "prove it!" :D
Time is nothing compared to infinity, the 70 someodd "years" you live your earthly life don't mean a damn thing.
:p it means something to me. besides, thats like saying "an engine is nothing compared to a car" dont be such a pessimist :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
Its not really pessimistic, I just realize my current existence is near nothing on the scale of everything.
4th dimension is intent(yeah here we go again).
Heisenberg uncertainty principle (read about it in my other post, or whatever)
when you consciously observe you change things, you alter the other 3 dimensions with a single act of will, that is power.
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
greaaat lol i'm baaack
Try to go to the astral plane its alot of fun!
The Astral Plane is in its own dimension. You cant just see in front of you, you can see all around you (360) at one time.
Kinda like a high dose od DXM (Like at least 800mg)
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Originally Posted by Euphoric
Time DOESN'T exist. einstein proved so, along with many others.