'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Schwarzenegger signs law outlawing terms perceived as negative to 'gays'

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Posted: October 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger

"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

"We are shocked and appalled that the governor has blatantly attacked traditional family values in California," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute.

"With this decision, Gov. Schwarzenegger has told parents that their values are irrelevant. Many parents will have no choice but to pull their children out of the public schools that have now become sexualized indoctrination centers."

"Arnold Schwarzenegger has delivered young children into the hands of those who will introduce them to alternative sexual lifestyles," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, which worked to defeat the plans. "This means children as young as five years old will be mentally molested in school classrooms.

"Shame on Schwarzenegger and the Democrat politicians for ensuring that every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said.


Analysts have warned that schools across the nation will be impacted by the decision, since textbook publishers must cater to their largest purchaser, which often is California, and they will be unlikely to go to the expense of having a separate edition for other states.

The bills signed by Schwarzenegger include SB777, which bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuality, bisexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

There are no similar protections for students with traditional or conservative lifestyles and beliefs, however.

"SB 777 will result in reverse discrimination against students with religious and traditional family values," said Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute. "These students have lost their voice as the direct result of Gov. Schwarzenegger's unbelievable decision. The terms 'mom and dad' or 'husband and wife' could promote discrimination against homosexuals if a same-sex couple is not also featured.

"Parents want the assurance that when their children go to school they will learn the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic â?? not social indoctrination regarding alternative sexual lifestyles. Now that SB777 is law, schools will in fact become indoctrination centers for sexual experimentation," she said.

Also signed was AB394, which targets parents and teachers for such indoctrination through "anti-harassment" training, CCF said.

Schwarzenegger had vetoed almost identical provisions a year ago, saying existing state law already provided for penalties for discrimination.

"We had hoped that the governor would once again veto this outrageous legislation but he obviously decided to side with the out-of-touch extremists that control the legislature. This law does not reflect the true values of the average Californian," said England. "True leadership means standing up for what is true and right."

Thomasson said SB777 prohibits any "instruction" or school-sponsored "activity" that "promotes a discriminatory bias" against "gender" â?? the bill's definition includes cross-dressing and sex changes â?? as well as "sexual orientation."

"Because no textbook or instruction in California public schools currently disparages transsexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality, the practical effect of SB777 will be to require positive portrayals of these sexual lifestyles at every government-operated school," CCF noted.

Offenders will face the wrath of the state Department of Education, up to and including lawsuits.

CCF noted that now on a banned list will be any text, reference or teaching aid that portrays marriage as only between a man and woman, materials that say people are born male or female (and not in between), sources that fail to include a variety of transsexual, bisexual and homosexual historical figures, and sex education materials that fail to offer the option of sex changes.

Further, homecoming kings now can be either male or female â?? as can homecoming queens, and students, whether male or female, must be allowed to use the restroom and locker room corresponding to the sex with which they choose to identify.

AB394 promotes the same issues through state-funded publications, postings, curricula and handouts to students, parents and teachers.

It also creates the circumstances where a parent who says marriage is only for a man and a woman in the presence of a lesbian teacher could be convicted of "harassment," and a student who believes people are born either male or female could be reported as a "harasser" by a male teacher who wears women's clothes, CCF said.

Thomasson said Schwarzenegger also signed AB14, which prohibits state funding for any program that does not support a range of alternative sexual practices, including state-funded social services run by churches.

Affected will be day cares, preschool or after-school programs, food and housing programs, senior services, anti-gang efforts, jobs programs and others.

Thomasson said it also forces every hospital in California â?? even private, religious hospitals â?? to adopt policies in support of transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality and opens up nonprofit organizations to lawsuits if they exclude members that engage in homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual conduct.

"It's the height of intolerance to punish individuals, organizations, businesses, and churches that have moral standards on sexual conduct and sexual lifestyles," said Thomasson, in response to the signing of AB14. "This is another insensitive law that violates people's moral boundaries."

The vitriol over the issue rose to new levels in its latest campaign.

As WND reported, a board member for the homosexual advocacy group Equality California verbally attacked and threatened CRI for its opposition to the bill earlier.

The board member sent an e-mail and video to CRI threatening the group would be buried if it continued efforts opposing the homosexual advocacy.

"The shocking hate mail we received shows that those behind this legislation do not promote true tolerance," said England. "Only politically correct speech will be tolerated. Those with religious or traditional moral beliefs will not be allowed to express their opinions in public schools."

She also cited an informational document published by the Gay-Straight Alliance Network and the Transgender Law Center that already is lobbying for special treatment in the school system.

"If you want to use a restroom that matches your gender identity â?¦ you should be allowed to do so," it advises. "Whenever students are divided up into boys and girls, you should be allowed to join the group or participate in the program that matches your gender identity as much as possible."

Further, the groups advise, "If you change your name to one that better matches your gender identity, a school needs to use that name to refer to you." The advocacy group also warns schools against bringing parents into any such discussion with students.

WND has documented a number of earlier cases in which educators, including leaders in California, have taken it upon themselves to promote a homosexual lifestyle to children under their charge.

WND reported California Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O'Connell, under whose supervision hundreds of thousands of children are being educated, has used his state position and taxpayer-funded stationery to praise a "gay" pride event used in the past to expose children to sexually explicit activities.

That drew vehement objections from several educators, including Priscilla Schreiber, the president of the Grossmont Unified High School District governing board.

"I am outraged that a person in this high-ranking elected position would advocate an event where diversity is not just being celebrated but where pornography and indecent exposure is being perpetrated on the young and innocent children of our communities," she said.

Much ado about nothing.:D

only read half, but thats just insane, however it would be fun to go into the girls bathroom(legally, u know whne u were little you thought that was totally a jailing offense) when i was a little tike.

Schwarzenegger is leaning left so damn fast he's about to topple over. Well, we got what we deserve by electing an actor who is part of the Kennedy family.

Sadly, no one caught on to the fact that "conservative" is just another role for Arnold. He really has no conservative convictions whatsoever.

JMO

PC :smokin:

Arnold is really only conservative in his economic policies, everything else he's leaning to the left

I wasn't going to get involved in this, but having gone to the website of your source, I'd say it is about as right wing as the sound of jackboots in the night...

The inflammatory spin that WorldNet Daily puts on this is obvious when you read how the San Jose Mercury News described the bill in total:

"SEXUAL ORIENTATIONâ??Schools will be barred from discriminating based on a student's sexual orientation and teachers and administrators will be required to enforce anti-bias laws to protect gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender students. Some family values groups lobbied against the bills saying they would encourage teaching about homosexuality."

That's it. No "mental molestation" of five year olds.
No banning of "Mom and Dad". In fact, none of the gay panic exhibited on the right wing Christian conservative news site you quote is justified.

Honest to God, do you actually believe this crap or did you willingly gulp down the Kool Aid long ago??

I have found that people who are secure in their own sexuality are rarely threatened by the choices of others.

Sorry, but I have a credibility problem with any news site with Pat "Jesus Loves Me" Boone as a contributor...

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Honest to God, do you actually believe this crap or did you willingly gulp down the Kool Aid long ago??

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Yep.
Kool-ade.
But you're supposed to drink it, not snort it straight from the pouch!

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I have found that people who are secure in their own sexuality are rarely threatened by the choices of others.

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I agree.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
--From Hamlet (III, ii, 239)

kinda over doing it but whatever

blah, blah, blah, blah..... who cares?!

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Originally Posted by wickerbill

I wasn't going to get involved in this, but having gone to the website of your source, I'd say it is about as right wing as the sound of jackboots in the night...

The inflammatory spin that WorldNet Daily puts on this is obvious when you read how the San Jose Mercury News described the bill in total:

"SEXUAL ORIENTATIONâ??Schools will be barred from discriminating based on a student's sexual orientation and teachers and administrators will be required to enforce anti-bias laws to protect gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender students. Some family values groups lobbied against the bills saying they would encourage teaching about homosexuality."

That's it. No "mental molestation" of five year olds.
No banning of "Mom and Dad". In fact, none of the gay panic exhibited on the right wing Christian conservative news site you quote is justified.

Honest to God, do you actually believe this crap or did you willingly gulp down the Kool Aid long ago??

I have found that people who are secure in their own sexuality are rarely threatened by the choices of others.

Sorry, but I have a credibility problem with any news site with Pat "Jesus Loves Me" Boone as a contributor...

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

Schwarzenegger is leaning left so damn fast he's about to topple over. Well, we got what we deserve by electing an actor who is part of the Kennedy family.

Sadly, no one caught on to the fact that "conservative" is just another role for Arnold. He really has no conservative convictions whatsoever.

JMO

PC :smokin:

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I agree. This is just another "GaYS R BaD BeCAusE JesUS SAiD So! My JESus CaN BEaT Up YoUR FaCTS!" thread.

Can someone tell me whats wrong with making sure people are accepted? Whats wrong with wanting to protect kids from being made fun of or even beat up b/c their different or their families are different? Nothing thats what.

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Can someone tell me whats wrong with making sure people are accepted? Whats wrong with wanting to protect kids from being made fun of or even beat up b/c their different or their families are different? Nothing thats what.

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I agree with you on that point RebGirl. And besides, now I get to use the Girls Room if I choose to...

thats suppressing heterosexuality by not allowing it to be mentioned...

unless by me only reading half of what other people wrote about what they read half of, I misinterpreted it, and people will be allowed to say things like mom and dad...

what the fuck are u talking about^


seriously though, I have to agree with what both wickerbill and rebgirl had to say

i mean that if words such as mom and dad are in fact banned from california public schools then california is suppressing heterosexuals

How can a bunch of stoners be conservatives? It doesn't make sense. Nice constant trolling by the way.

^ I see.....I'm sorry

I only read half the shit aswell, but i seriously doubt those words are banned

and i wonder the same thing myself chong

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How can a bunch of stoners be conservatives? It doesn't make sense. Nice constant trolling by the way.

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By the looks of your profile, I was voting for Reagon and buying $15 ounces when you were a squirt in your momma's belly. Always love to see how the left feel they own the market on smoking weed.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

By the looks of your profile, I was voting for Reagon and buying $15 ounces when you were a squirt in your momma's belly. Always love to see how the left feel they own the market on smoking weed.

Have a good one!:s4:

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OUTSTANDING !! :thumbsup:

Yep.
Even tools of the right wing establishment use cannabis.
(I'm not saying that anyone here is one, because I know you're probably not, I'm just jokingly agreeing that many right wingers have used pot.)
In 1978, we (organizers of a national legalization event) were approached by the National Socialist White Peoples Party.
They wanted to help with the legalization effort, because (and I really do quote)...
"Marijuana laws are bad for the white race".
We told them to get lost.

I'm really just kinda curious where this whole 'homosexual indoctrination' idea comes from.

Have you ever even met a gay guy? Why do religious conservatives think that gays try to convert people?

I don't really care what anybody else does with their genitals, and if you're committed to a marriage, you really shouldn't either! My penis, the wife's vag., that's as far as I'm concerned about sex. If a guy wants some butt sex in california I don't care because it doesn't affect me. At all. Zero. I still curl up in a committed relationship every night.

Oh and as far as no "MOM AND DAD", I never heard it growing up in school. I always heard "PARENT AND/OR GUARDIAN", and most everybody else did too. Is guardian offensive because it implies something other than devout christian parents?

And if you think freedom of speech ever existed in Americker's public schools, you're dead wrong. I remember several instances where I was threatened with a slap in the face for using a word, a common word, in a colloquialism. As an atheist, I find it pretty offensive that I would be physically punished for saying the three words "Oh my god." I don't mean it as "Oh, my dear GOD" but rather as a phrase you yell out like when you stub your toe or something. But I was in for a beatin' if I ever took the good lord's name in front of all those young innocent, good-ole jesus-worshippin American citizens.

I'm sorry, but Christians do not own morality.

Whereas 10 years ago I heard
"The United States were founded upon the principles of religious freedom"
now all I seem to hear is
"Americker was founded on good-ole Judeo-Christian values and that's what our country is."

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I'm really just kinda curious where this whole 'homosexual indoctrination' idea comes from.

Have you ever even met a gay guy? Why do religious conservatives think that gays try to convert people?

I don't really care what anybody else does with their genitals, and if you're committed to a marriage, you really shouldn't either! My penis, the wife's vag., that's as far as I'm concerned about sex. If a guy wants some butt sex in california I don't care because it doesn't affect me. At all. Zero. I still curl up in a committed relationship every night.

Oh and as far as no "MOM AND DAD", I never heard it growing up in school. I always heard "PARENT AND/OR GUARDIAN", and most everybody else did too. Is guardian offensive because it implies something other than devout christian parents?

And if you think freedom of speech ever existed in Americker's public schools, you're dead wrong. I remember several instances where I was threatened with a slap in the face for using a word, a common word, in a colloquialism. As an atheist, I find it pretty offensive that I would be physically punished for saying the three words "Oh my god." I don't mean it as "Oh, my dear GOD" but rather as a phrase you yell out like when you stub your toe or something. But I was in for a beatin' if I ever took the good lord's name in front of all those young innocent, good-ole jesus-worshippin American citizens.

I'm sorry, but Christians do not own morality.

Whereas 10 years ago I heard
"The United States were founded upon the principles of religious freedom"
now all I seem to hear is
"Americker was founded on good-ole Judeo-Christian values and that's what our country is."

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Haha, you bring a good point indeed.

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Yep.
Even tools of the right wing establishment use cannabis.
(I'm not saying that anyone here is one, because I know you're probably not, I'm just jokingly agreeing that many right wingers have used pot.).

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Cool!:thumbsup: Take it ya read my hint.......LOL

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Howdy Y'all,

Don't worry,I'm sure that it won't be long before challenges and lawsuits are filed in regards to this measure,by both sides.

In the meantime,folks of faith who will be discriminated against in the public schools,should start withdrawing their children immediately before they git sued for everything that they own-because federal funds are based on the number of children in attendance at any given time.

Nothing panics a liberal educator more-than losing federal dollars(our dollars,btw-which they think that they own). :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

When I was in school I was always told by teachers and staff that we have no rights as American citizens while on school property.

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Howdy Y'all,

Don't worry,I'm sure that it won't be long before challenges and lawsuits are filed in regards to this measure,by both sides.

In the meantime,folks of faith who will be discriminated against in the public schools,should start withdrawing their children immediately before they git sued for everything that they own-because federal funds are based on the number of children in attendance at any given time.

Nothing panics a liberal educator more-than losing federal dollars(our dollars,btw-which they think that they own). :thumbsup:

Have a good one ...

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How can you continue to make such bold statements about "liberals" which have no foundation in fact or reason whatsoever? I read the text of this new measure and no where in it does it mention suppressing heterosexuality. The no "mom and dad" thing is just a propagandist fabrication supplied to you by your god-fearing christian news website. No lawsuits are going to be filed because all this measure does is protect homosexuals from harassment. No where in this measure does it mention the pro-homosexual training that your fairy tale newspaper claims. Half of what is in that article is an opinion and it is about as far from the truth as you can get. Read the bill and see if it mentions anywhere about promotion of homosexuality. You will find that it does not. It merely protects against discrimination against it, and protects against curriculum that would favor either lifestyle. We are not shoving pornographic depictions of homosexuals down the throats of our oh-so-innocent children and telling them its alright. That is completely ridiculous and I lack the ability to comprehend why any one would ever believe this. That's not even legal!

There are no laws protecting against discrimination of heterosexuals, simply because that is not a problem AT ALL. Maybe where you are from, you've been constantly harassed by gays for being straight (I'm assuming), but I have never seen a truck full of gay guys shooting paintballs at straight guys and screaming "PUSSY LOVERS!!!" Heterosexual harassment simply doesn't happen (at least not in my experience).

And I don't think it is a good idea to take all our kids out of school over misinformation, so they will all grow up to believe what they read at wack-job websites like WorldNetDaily.

Please explain to me, torog, what your problem is with homosexuals (something more intelligent than, "They are gross, they freak me out, and god says don't be one"). Were you raped? Did they try and "convert" you? Or do you just have a blind sense of aggression towards equality in our "free" country?

i think its giving kids too much damn rights.. i mean for reals?:wtf: they want to let elementary school kids choose to pee in the girls or boys restroom sitting down or standing up crossing their gender. wtf.. there kids.. learning the difference between the genders is a good thing... :wtf:this is still like a wtf to me.. arnold is NOW DEFINATELY fucking up. the U.S in general is Fucking up..lol:hippy:

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i think its giving kids too much damn rights.. i mean for reals?:wtf: they want to let elementary school kids choose to pee in the girls or boys restroom sitting down or standing up crossing their gender. wtf.. there kids.. learning the difference between the genders is a good thing... :wtf:this is still like a wtf to me.. arnold is NOW DEFINATELY fucking up. the U.S in general is Fucking up..lol:hippy:

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Yeah, I forgot to mention that the part about boys being able to pee in girls restrooms is 100% false as well. That is an unlawful invasion of privacy and is no way supported by this measure.

i cant beleive some of this, why in the world do people want to be the "sexual orientation police"? Does it really matter who does what as long as it is done in the privacy of their own space? and..... if some people had not made such a big deal out of sexual orientation, it would not be such a big deal now. Discrimination is discrimination, it should not be tolerated. if it was...blacks would be still in seperate schools, and that would be a shame. i am proud to be an American, and female/reguardless of my sexual orientation, and live in California.
inbud
here is a PS for you all
my parents were teachers in the california system thier whole careers...needless to say many other teachers visited my home, when i was growing up..and i can remember three off hand that were gay..tho it was not gay back then....a counseler and teacher lived together too and i never once even thot i would grow up to be gay because i took classes from them. i wonder if the parents of the kids who took their classes even knew they were gay? Or the students themselves? I myself only realized after i was out of school....and the world was a different place.

I believe children should be home schooled anyway at least until we gain control back of our schools from the federal government.

Lets not forget that being gay is GENETIC!!! It is not a choice made by youth mislead by pro-homosexual liberal propaganda.

"Lets not forget that being gay is GENETIC!!! It is not a choice made by youth mislead by pro-homosexual liberal propaganda"

this one is kidding right? did i miss something? it is GENETIC? You mean there is a Gay GENE?

i dont know how to use the quote but that came from above

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"Lets not forget that being gay is GENETIC!!! It is not a choice made by youth mislead by pro-homosexual liberal propaganda"

this one is kidding right? did i miss something? it is GENETIC? You mean there is a Gay GENE?

i dont know how to use the quote but that came from above

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Perhaps I used the wrong term. It is more in the form of a chemical imbalance in the brain that is established by the time the child is born. Being gay is not a choice. It is a chemical predisposition.

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Originally Posted by MajesticWhelk

Perhaps I used the wrong term. It is more in the form of a chemical imbalance in the brain that is established by the time the child is born. Being gay is not a choice. It is a chemical predisposition.

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Howdy Majestic,

Well I'll be daggumed ! If that is all the problem,then why hasn't there been a pill to fix that ? They got pills to fix chemical imbalances that lead to mental illness..so why not a pill for this 'problem' too ? Just think of all those who could be spared from living such a deathstyle ! :)

This bill doesn't take effect till January,let's see what happens then.

Have a good one...

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Howdy Majestic,

Well I'll be daggumed ! If that is all the problem,then why hasn't there been a pill to fix that ? They got pills to fix chemical imbalances that lead to mental illness..so why not a pill for this 'problem' too ? Just think of all those who could be spared from living such a deathstyle ! :)

This bill doesn't take effect till January,let's see what happens then.

Have a good one...

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No one has made a pill to fix it because it is not a "problem" as you mistakenly put it. Maybe it would be a problem to you, but obviously, being the homophobic person that you appear to be, you feel for some reason that no one else should be able to live a life that they want to live simply because your individual beliefs don't condone that lifestyle. Unfortunately, not everyone is christian, and therefore in no way has any obligation to adhere to your system of morals.

Also, there is not a pill for it because it is not an imbalance that is completely understood. Even if it was understood, no one needs to fix it. It is completely fine for someone to be gay. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it unless it has a direct and detrimental effect on your lifestyle (other than just making you angry and confused).

And if you read the bill, you will see that none of the ridiculous claims made by WorldPropagandaDaily are true and there isn't a chance of any of them coming to be.

correct me if im wrong here, but last night on bill o'reilly (yes i watch the factor, got to stay inormed on what the "enemy" is up to" ) but they were talking about this and they said this has been on the books since '01(?). and from what i came to understnd is that the argument isnt about what can or cant be said but the fact that almost everthing a teacher says or doesa can be considered bias. they also said that kids who are "gender confused" (how a kid can be gender confused is beyond me) will have seperate facilitys than the other kids. i think i speak for almost everyone , even those in cali, when i say that as the father of a 12 year old daughter that i would be severly pissed if i found that a school was letting a boy go into a girls bathroom and would do everthing in my power to put an end to it.
maybe instead of sign that says boys on the bathroom door they should just put a pic. of a penis. you got one use this toilet and on the girls we could put one of them circles with the penis crossed out. you aint got one use this toilet.
also what about the childhood pranks. when i was a kid it was great fun to shove your freind into the girls bathroom. but it was also great fun to beat thecrap outa each other in the play ground. we used to "play fight" right in front of the teachers.

First off, these people are gradually killing the education system with all this politically correct b.s.

NEXT, there was a complaint about the "anti-gay" pill. Come on now.......lets have logical debate in here!!! IF this turns into a gay bashing thread I'll have to take some type of action that few will appreciate.:postreadfaq:

Have a good one!"s4"

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First off, these people are gradually killing the education system with all this politically correct b.s.

NEXT, there was a complaint about the "anti-gay" pill. Come on now.......lets have logical debate in here!!! IF this turns into a gay bashing thread I'll have to take some type of action that few will appreciate.:postreadfaq:

Have a good one!"s4"

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Howdy Psycho4Bud,

I apologize for taking advantage of an opening to make a joke and my intent is not to bash the LGBT community,but rather their militant agenda that fosters and foments,intolerance and discrimination towards folks of faith.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Psycho4Bud,

I apologize for taking advantage of an opening to make a joke and my intent is not to bash the LGBT community,but rather their militant agenda that fosters and foments,intolerance and discrimination towards folks of faith.

Have a good one ...

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I figured that was the case but we got a complaint.....

As always.....

Have a good one!:s4:

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but rather their militant agenda that fosters and foments,intolerance and discrimination towards folks of faith.

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Militant agenda? wtf?

intolerance and discrimination against christians?HAHAHAHAHAHA now you're just being rediculous

when have u seen a group of gays discriminating against christians, lmao