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See who's receiving Communion in San Francisco
'I doubt even Judas would have done such a perverse thing'

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Posted: October 11, 2007
8:35 p.m. Eastern
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

A Catholic parish in San Francisco has been classified alongside graphic San Francisco sex-fest sponsor Miller Brewing after officials served Communion to members of the ultra anti-Catholic "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence," whose mockery of Christianity is legend in the city.

The service was captured on video by a member of the Catholic group St. Joseph's Men Society, and it has been made available Catholic blogsite Quamdiu Domine.


Two "sisters" at Holy Redeemer church in San Franscico


"I doubt that even Judas would have done such a perverse thing as this," said Anthony Gonzales, president of the men's organization. "Not only did [Archbishop George] Niederauer sell out our Lord for human respect but deliberately crucified Him again within the very sanctuary of the church that he was consecrated to protect. If Rome does not remove him immediately from his position and excommunicate him for this evil, then Rome itself becomes complicit in the crime. Enough is enough!"

The archbishop, in an diocese newspaper editorial scheduled for publication next week, apologizes for serving the two "Sisters," explaining he didn't recognize who they were.


'Sisters' receiving Communion


He described the Oct. 7 event has routine. "The congregation was devout and the liturgy was celebrated with reverence. I noticed no demonstration, no protest, no disruption of the Eucharist," he writes for the coming explanation.

"At Communion time, toward the end of the line, two strangely dressed persons came to receive Communion. As I recall one of them wore a large flowered hat or garland. I did not recognize either of them as wearing mock religious garb," he said.

"Afterward it was made clear to me that these two people were members of the organization 'Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence,' who have long made a practice of mocking the Catholic Church in general and religious women in particular," he said.

"Although I had often seen photographs of members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, I had never encountered them in person until October 7th. I did not recognize who these people were when they approached me. After the event, I realized that they were members of this particular organization and that giving them Holy Communion had been a mistake. I apologize to the Catholics of the Archdiocese of San Francisco and to Catholics at large for doing so," he said.

"The manner of dress and public comportment of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence is deeply offensive to women religious and to the witness of holiness and Christian service that women religious have offered to the Church and to the world for centuries. The citizens of San Francisco have ample reason to be grateful to women religious for their unfailing support of those most in need, and to be deeply offended when that service is belittled so outrageously and offensively.

"Someone who dresses in a mock religious habit to attend Mass does so to make a point. If people dress in a manner clearly intended to mock what we hold sacred, they place themselves in an objective situation in which it is not appropriate for them to receive Holy Communion, much less for a minister of the Church to give the Sacrament to them.

"Therefore I conclude that the presence of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence at the Mass on October 7th was intended as a provocative gesture. In that moment I failed to recognize it as such, and for that, as I have said, I must apologize," he writes.

The service was held just days after downtown San Francisco was flooded with open nudity, public acts of sex and other activities related to the Folsom Street homosexual sex fair.

Catholics earlier reacted to the event itself by calling for a boycott of the Miller Brewing Co. after the beer giant failed to have its logo removed from a "gay"-festival promo mocking the iconic Last Supper scene of Jesus Christ and his disciples.

Now a number of groups, including Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, have been publicizing the stunt.

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"Just when you thought it couldn't get any wackier: on Sunday, just a week after the depraved, nudity-filled 'Folsom Street Fair' in San Francisco, the city's Archbishop, George Niederauer, has been photographed giving Communion to two Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence in their mock 'nun' outfits," said a statement from AFTAH.

AFTAH chief Peter LaBarbera explained that the "Sisters" are men who dress up in outlandish outfits and white make-up to mock Catholic nuns. They adopt sexualized names including "Sister Porn Again" and their motto is "Go forth and sin some more."

LaBarbera reported at this year's event one, "novice" was "Sister Bambi Dextrous" who wore a T-shirt with the slogan "Bottom for Jesus" referring to the act of homosexual sodomy.

The church, Most Holy Redeemer, already had a history of pushing homosexual activism in violation of Roman Catholic Church teachings, including granting permission to the "Sisters" to hold "Revival Bingo" games there where porn DVDs and sex toys were used as prizes.

Allyson Smith, an analyst for Americans for Truth, noted that the Catholic Church believes communion involves the actual "body and blood of Jesus Christ" and such participation by the "twisted 'sisters'" is offensive to many.

Her opinions were echoed abundantly on a response section to the California Catholic News story about the situation:


May God have mercy on his soul," wrote "semperficatholic."

"We need to bulldoze to the ground every Catholic Church in S.F. and send these left handed Catholics to the Masonic lodge where they truly belong. Let Satan put up with them," added "pablo."

Mark was succinct: "Blasphemy."

"You could say the Archbishop has a 'wide stance' toward perversion-enthusiasts in the church," added "Grandma Hat."

Said "Andrew," "What an abomination! It just boggles my mind and even my whole being that the Archbishop actually participates in this total desecration of the Holy Eucharist. He who should be defending the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ is a willful conduit to this abomination. It's very terrible and very sad â?? there's no words to describe it. All good and holy people of San Francisco and everywhere, please say a prayer of reparation and spent a holy hour with the Lord in the Blessed Sacrament today. As Fr. John Corapi ha[s] said a million times, SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS IN HELL SOMEDAY!!!!!"
It was the Catholic League that earlier protested Miller's involvement in the event, and posted online under a parental warning about graphic content photographs of the homosexual event on public streets.

The Folsom Street Fair broke into the headlines with its promotional image mocking the Last Supper scene of Jesus Christ and his disciples, replacing the biblical leaders with leather-adorned men and the bread and wine with sex toys.

The Catholic League had called a boycott of the Miller Brewing Co. after the beer giant failed to have its logo removed from the event.

But officials say the brewer declined, and so it was distributing photographs of the event to allow leaders, residents and workers in the company's hometown see the results of the company's sponsorship.

"We have been informed by Miller Brewing that it is not prepared at this time to offer assurances that it will never again sponsor an anti-Christian event; it merely says that it is conducting an audit of its marketing policies. Accordingly, our response to Miller's balk is as follows," Donohue said.

"We are mailing pictures of the anti-Christian and sadomasochistic Folsom Street Fair that Miller so proudly sponsors to Milwaukee Archbishop Timothy Dolan and to the 211 Catholic parishes in the archdiocese. We want all Catholics in Milwaukee to know exactly what Miller stands for," he said.

He later announced that in addition to all Catholic parishes in the Milwaukee area, all Protestant ministers also would be getting information about the event.

"Certainly the people of Milwaukee will be disgusted to see this," said Kiera McCaffrey, director of communications for the League. "That's why we feel it's important people actually see what's going on."

Why is this in politics and not the religion section of this forum?

cause its both?

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Originally Posted by GrinS

cause its both?

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Howdy Grin,

Yup ! You got it ! It's definitely about politics and religion..it's the politics of hate towards all folks of faith and it's about religious intolerance and discrimination and an invasion of private property for the express purpose to disrupt and interfere with a religious service.

In San Franciso,such is tolerated,but in the rest of America-it ain't tolerated at all.

In fact-none of the local papers would even cover the story-to them,it ain't no big deal.

I urge every Catholic in America and elsewhere,to boycott San Francisco and call for the removal of the Archbishop Neidaraurer,all Catholic chirches in San Francisco should put a pair of guards at the doors and screen everyone that tries to trespass on private property and they should seriously consider being armed as well..as there ain't no tellin just how far the gays will go.

Now that gays know that San Francisco won't prosecute them for trespassing on private property and interferring with and disrupting a service in progress,I expect to see much worse happen.

Have a good one ...

at the forefront of American ideals, as usual, ... good work Torog :thumbsup:

"Yup ! You got it ! It's definitely about politics and religion..it's the politics of hate towards all folks of faith and it's about religious intolerance and discrimination and an invasion of private property for the express purpose to disrupt and interfere with a religious service."

How about the politics of "separation of church and state"? The main reason why people mock Christianity is the fact people like you keep trying to ram your religious morals down our throats. In the Boston area, many catholic churches and schools have closed their doors permanently due to lack of people going. Maybe its time religion starts excepting people for who they are instead of turning them away and wondering "why Christianity is on the decline". And to think they would 'fire' him is a mistake. Look at what happened in Boston to Cardinal Law... He moved around priest who molested young boys. When shit hit the fan on this what did the church do to him? Simply moved his ass to a new area and kept him on the payroll.

Maybe it's time we start taxing the largest land owners in America!

True that Zim. I agree that they shouldn't have gone in there just to be dicks, thats not cool for anyone to do, no reason to be a mindless asshole. It's also true that it would be SUPREMELY retarded and hypocritical if he was fired. Theres no way you should be able to fuck little boys and simply get moved a few miles away and then for this guy to get fired because he made a mistake. Actually, I can't even call it a mistake because his job is not to turn away anyone. As far as he was concerned these were just some weird fuckin people that wanted to recieve the holy sacrement. He fucked up, so what? People make mistakes, he doesnt need to lose his job over it, it doesnt mean he loves God and his fellow man any less.

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Originally Posted by Zimzum

"Yup ! You got it ! It's definitely about politics and religion..it's the politics of hate towards all folks of faith and it's about religious intolerance and discrimination and an invasion of private property for the express purpose to disrupt and interfere with a religious service."

How about the politics of "separation of church and state"? The main reason why people mock Christianity is the fact people like you keep trying to ram your religious morals down our throats. In the Boston area, many catholic churches and schools have closed their doors permanently due to lack of people going. Maybe its time religion starts excepting people for who they are instead of turning them away and wondering "why Christianity is on the decline". And to think they would 'fire' him is a mistake. Look at what happened in Boston to Cardinal Law... He moved around priest who molested young boys. When shit hit the fan on this what did the church do to him? Simply moved his ass to a new area and kept him on the payroll.

Maybe it's time we start taxing the largest land owners in America!

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Howdy ZimZum,

Yer definition of 'seperation of church and state',is 'freedom from religion and religious expression'..I realize that is a dream of your's and other anti-religion,anti-God people-but it ain't a reality yet.

Of course,churches are shutting down in the Boston area,because of the militant gay agenda there that has been successful enough and been crammed down the throats of citizens there,to the point of turning into a Sodom and Gommorah,like California is becoming.

At any rate,let the gays try and pull that stunt at a Baptist church full of rednecks..and you'll git a much more different response..I tell ya what ! :mad:

Have a good one ...

The gays are coming , The gays are coming. Run for the Parliament Hills ! !! !!

Redneck baptists? Armed Guards at church doors? Sounds like you really know what's what in this day and age Torog.

Have a Good one..

but not too good.. the gays might invade.

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The gays are coming , The gays are coming. Run for the Parliament Hills ! !! !!

Redneck baptists? Armed Guards at church doors? Sounds like you really know what's what in this day and age Torog.

Have a Good one..

but not too good.. the gays might invade.

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Howdy Bob !

Aww now,I didn't mention armed guards,did I ? ;)

However,maybe I should mention that Texas just expanded it's rules on defense of private property. :thumbsup:

Have a good one ! :jointsmile:

I'm kind of 50/50 here. I do believe that there should be a separation of church and state and I don't think that it is right to fire a man because he mistook the identity of a couple of people (I'll be he regrets that for the rest of his life). But.... making a mockery of any church is rediculous. Having armed guards does kind of seem like overkill, but I can't think of many ways to keep people off of private property.

I am not anti religion. I grew up in a Roman Catholic house. However, my parents decided on their own not to baptize me. They were nice enough to let me decide what religion I wanted when I was old enough to make the decision on my own. Today I conceder myself to be a Buddhist/Atheist. Many Catholics today have been forced into the religion. Almost all my cousins have been forced in (Sunday school, first communion, conformation). By forcing kids into something they do not fully understand, can that not be considered a Catholic militant agenda? A few years ago my state abolished the "blue law", the banning of alcohol sales on Sunday.... Gee I wonder what great religion actually had that law put into place to begin with. :rolleyes: IMO, gays are nothing more then a 21st century witch hunt to Christianity.

I thought church doors were open to anyone who wanted to come in, well thats how it used to be. Since when did religious people start to want to turn people away because of their sins? This huge Christian movement is doing nothing but giving the Father a bad name. We are to embrace and except everyone regardless of their sins. I am starting to believe most Christians are fake, and are not true followers of Christ. Christ never preached discrimination ever in his short life here on earth. So where do these so called Christians have the right to discriminate? Stop letting the church, and other men direct your faith in the Father, and try to have a relationship with him through your own heart. Its easy to preach religious propaganda, and condemn everyone who has the slightest difference in faith. I challenge all religious people to try and have a relationship with the Father from inside their hearts, and not through a church!!

Personally I applaud the actions of said "church." I believe that all christian establishments should be sabotaged and corrupted because I am an evil west-coast liberal who hates freedom and wants everyone to go against the word of the infallible, almighty god, who, by the way, exists 100% and that is a FACT. Notice how I don't capitalize god because I am such a liberal. In fact, not only am I a liberal (HIDE YOUR CHILDREN OR I'LL MAKE THEM GAY) but I am a muslim terrorist with a slight inclination for satanic worship. I run through churches naked holding hands with men and screaming "ABORTIONS FOR EVERYONE!"

WorldNetDaily speaks the truth! In no way are any of their articles biased or exaggerated! They are all 100% factual and in no way are they written and supported by those who think that their way of life is the only way of life and expect to see their values reflected by everyone (including those who do not live by the same standards or belief systems). Yay! Go equality!

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The main reason why people mock Christianity is the fact people like you keep trying to ram your religious morals down our throats.

Maybe it's time we start taxing the largest land owners in America!

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It's not morals they're trying to ram down those altarboys throats. All church assets should simply be seized and used for some useful purpose.

Howdy Y'all,

I got a question for ya..Do ya reckon that if this was done to a mosque..that them there gay fellers would have made it out alive ?

I don't think that they would have..what say you ?

They went into a Christian church,because they knew that Christians would not harm them.

Have a good one ...

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Howdy Y'all,

I got a question for ya..Do ya reckon that if this was done to a mosque..that them there gay fellers would have made it out alive ?

I don't think that they would have..what say you ?

They went into a Christian church,because they knew that Christians would not harm them.

Have a good one ...

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So you're saying that if it were Muslims, that they would have resulted to a violent outburst? First of all, the "truth" of this article is twisted and is not the exact story, and this story is filled with subjective information which is just the opinions of random unnamed people. Second, just because someone is a Muslim does not mean that they are looking to "join the jihad" and become martyrs. Radical muslims and REAL muslims are much different. Its like saying that fundamentalist christians and catholics are the same; it is simply false.

And they probably didn't go into a christian church just to take advantage of the niceness of poor helpless christians. Maybe they are christian?? Would you take your activities to a Jewish temple if you were not Jewish?

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Y'all,

I got a question for ya..Do ya reckon that if this was done to a mosque..that them there gay fellers would have made it out alive ?

I don't think that they would have..what say you ?

They went into a Christian church,because they knew that Christians would not harm them.

Have a good one ...

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I love this tactic. Compare Xian intolerance to extremist Muslim intolerance, and since the Muslims have a more physically dangerous version of intolerance, that makes Xian intolerance A-OK. That's akin to me saying "That guy killed 5 people, I've only killed 3, so that means I'm a better person than he is." They might be the better person, but that doesn't make them good in the least. As well, we don't say that killing 3 people is alright because comparatively, it's better than killing 5.

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Originally Posted by Torog

At any rate,let the gays try and pull that stunt at a Baptist church full of rednecks..and you'll git a much more different response..I tell ya what ! :mad:

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What kind of response would you get? humour me please.

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I thought church doors were open to anyone who wanted to come in, well thats how it used to be. Since when did religious people start to want to turn people away because of their sins? This huge Christian movement is doing nothing but giving the Father a bad name. We are to embrace and except everyone regardless of their sins. I am starting to believe most Christians are fake, and are not true followers of Christ. Christ never preached discrimination ever in his short life here on earth. So where do these so called Christians have the right to discriminate? Stop letting the church, and other men direct your faith in the Father, and try to have a relationship with him through your own heart. Its easy to preach religious propaganda, and condemn everyone who has the slightest difference in faith. I challenge all religious people to try and have a relationship with the Father from inside their hearts, and not through a church!!

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While I certainly don't stand for Catholicism, the religion is a huge organization run by man, and many powers are given to the people. There's a difference between a church accepting a gay person for them to "reconcile their sins" and letting people in who are making a mockery of their establishment.

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While I certainly don't stand for Catholicism, the religion is a huge organization run by man, and many powers are given to the people. There's a difference between a church accepting a gay person for them to "reconcile their sins" and letting people in who are making a mockery of their establishment.

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I would completely agree with you on the matter that religion is just another way now for people to take advantage of followers who will never take it upon themselves to find their own peace.

Hmm, and here I thought that everyone was welcome at the table of god.

Guess not! Us human's get to decide who's worthy and who isn't! :rolleyes:

so much hate :(

The fact that God let's all of this take place.. tsk tsk. lmao