Tired of this world as it is

i am going to buy some land some where in the middle of no where, and "live of the land". Build my own house and start a good crop of foods, have some animals, hunt, and fish. Live a life and be free, of course i am also going to grow a good crop of buds. i am also going try to start an orchard and grow some fruit.

This is going to be a long process, i am going to start preparing during this winter and start the process as spring comes.

i am just so fucking feed up with this world where it is so hard to make a living and that money is everything.

That is my plan :)

Sir, I like the way that plan sounds. I've always wanted to do something like that. Get away from the city and start over. I have an uncle that did exactly what you described. Except for growing the bud part. (I don't know, he probably does). I drove up to his house last summer. Such a nice place. It's very quiet and relaxing.

Yeah your uncle is a very smart man, i just hope it works out for me. I hope to not have to buy any food, to just be able to buy all my own, that would be the life.

Hell yeah!

No running water or electricity?

Solar powered water pump pulling from a well. Works as long as we dont get a blanket of ash covering the world in the event of a huge volcanic eruption or asteroid impact.

Theres lots of ways to live the simple life but it takes money to get started.There are lots of good ways to generate power and water. I think most people have just given up on living a decent simple life and just put up with the day to day drudgery of life.

Well I can certainly understand the feeling. But it is not so easy to do.

You have to buy land. Unless you pay cash you are going to have payments. Then there is real estate taxes.

It is going to take you at least a year or so to get crops growing. You will have to buy seeds, fertilizer and other stuff. You will need food to survive until your crop grows.

Do you like using the Internet? Then you need electricity and and Internet account. More monthly expences there.

Have you ever farmed? It is a little more complex than it seems.

You will need a car to get supplies. That means you will need insurance.

It is understandable how you feel, but is that really what you want?

I suggest before you do something that radical, go to a third world country and volunteer. Then you can learn what it really means to be without all the comforts of a western society.

Best be careful what you want, you might get it.:thumbsup:

Man... your plan is my dream... i also hope one day (not too far) to go to a peaceful place and live off the land, without the "modern" preocupations... i hope you suceed, cause for me its the best way to live!

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Originally Posted by Unknown American

I suggest before you do something that radical, go to a third world country and volunteer. Then you can learn what it really means to be without all the comforts of a western society.

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Damn, man... i always wonder why do people thinks that all the 3rd world is a great indian tribe... i live in a 3rd world country, and have a pc, internet (if not i wouldnt be posting here), and everything else... like millions of other brasilians also... of course there is regions of my country where there is nothing of it, but im sure there is regions like that everywhere... its hard to think that in the developed 1st world countries every home has a pc, internet, and everything else, even the ones that are in the midst of forests, fields, and such... but, maybe, thats why they are called the 1st world...

BTW, the "comforts of a western society" have a price... you must live a "western society" life... and i think thats exactly what he (and me also) does NOT want. Trading freedom for comfort dont seems very wise...

"did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?" Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

Where I volunteer there is no television. I have to walk 5 miles to an Internet connection. The water has to be boiled in order to be safe to drink.

Third World is a generic term. No disrespect intended.

My point is simple it is easy to say you want something, but in truth it might not be what you want.

I leave in a few months again for Guatemala.

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Originally Posted by Cannabis-Sativa

i am going to buy some land some where in the middle of no where, and "live of the land". Build my own house and start a good crop of foods, have some animals, hunt, and fish. Live a life and be free, of course i am also going to grow a good crop of buds. i am also going try to start an orchard and grow some fruit.

This is going to be a long process, i am going to start preparing during this winter and start the process as spring comes.

i am just so fucking feed up with this world where it is so hard to make a living and that money is everything.

That is my plan :)

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Your plan is my husbands dream. We are already country but the burbites are starting to invade us.
Almost time to sell and Montana, here we come.

It would be neat to have a little cann.com community.:smokin:

Unknown American, now that i know you have been there, im sorry for over-reacting to your post... my apologies.
There is here in brasil lots of places like this one you described, without even drinkable water, mainly at the northeast region... so i understand what you mean.
Also, i understand your point in saying that maybe its not what he really wants... many people have indeed a very "romantic" view of how would be to live in the country, with peace, singing birds and so, without thinking about how it actually could be.
IMHO i think losing some conforts is very worth... of course there is (a lot of) people who simply COULDNT live without internet, tv, or electric light... but also there is ones who doesnt care about it... so, its a matter of choice, or likings...
Anyway, for the original poster, good luck! I hope you find a nice place and have lots of every growable strain of weed! :thumbsup::stoned::rastasmoke:

yea man thats the natural life humans were suppose to live wtf happened

I dream of this! You see, we really could have a Utopia if we wish. You just need like minded people. I would rather a barter economy than capital.

Yes growing your own bud and food is great. No bills or car payments. I hate cars anyway. i'm not a material girl!

Me, I would grow veggies, and fruits and nuts. No animals for food. I couldn't kill animals for food. Chickens are cute.

They would be handwoven. Our houses will be from hemp and so will clothes. It would be cool. It would be cool to have Greek hemp togas!

awesome plan dude thats what me and my dad are going to do someday. :jointsmile: :thumbsup:

Hell, it's a beautiful world!:thumbsup:

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Have a good one!:jointsmile:

i think a lot of 'heads feel this way. sure i know a bunch of frantic overachievers that still enjoy their j's now and again, but most of would like to just chill in a world where just chilling IS THE MOST EVILEST THING EVAR.

a portion of the generation before me REQUIRES a 9 to 5, then they come home at night, crash hard in front of reality tv on big lay z boys for a few hours with some super high calorie snacks and bitch a bit then repeat it all in the am. my parents are this way. they are cool people but theyre mortal enemies of leisure that isn't on paid vacation time.

suffering makes people feel 'alive' in some weird way i guess, and 'the grind' serves as validation for people who feel like they need to validate their existence when its all just luck that we're here anyways=p but mostly i think that its been this way so long for so many people that its all they know really.

but they think i am nuts, my parents. i am self-employed and barely get by, but im super happy most of the time. i dont stress about work more than is necessary. they wonder how i can sit outside on the porch and smoke cigs and just not worry about anything. they are so accustomed to western civ that they just do it every day like its alright i guess. they seem happy enough, married a loooong time now and ive never seen them so much as raise their voice at one another. honestly they deserve an award.

am i a huge bum to my parents? i guess man, nobodys perfect, but im happy and i dont bother anybody. i dont take what isn't mine. i try to help out a little when i can and do minimal mooching.

i think they are catching on finally. theyre tired too. they want to move out west with a little bit of money and just relax. but i dont want to wait till im near 60 to enjoy my damn life. i already started:rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by Unknown American

Well I can certainly understand the feeling. But it is not so easy to do.

You have to buy land. Unless you pay cash you are going to have payments. Then there is real estate taxes.

It is going to take you at least a year or so to get crops growing. You will have to buy seeds, fertilizer and other stuff. You will need food to survive until your crop grows.

Do you like using the Internet? Then you need electricity and and Internet account. More monthly expences there.

Have you ever farmed? It is a little more complex than it seems.

You will need a car to get supplies. That means you will need insurance.

It is understandable how you feel, but is that really what you want?

I suggest before you do something that radical, go to a third world country and volunteer. Then you can learn what it really means to be without all the comforts of a western society.

Best be careful what you want, you might get it.:thumbsup:

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Adding to what Unknown American has already said:

Farming IS hard, what are you going to do when you get too much or not enough rain one year and most of your crops die? How are you going to keep out of season fruit veg to last all year? I hope you like living off dried/salted food because you wont have enough electricity to be able to freeze them.

Do you have any experience with solar/wind energy? Solar power is not only expensive to start but is very unreliable. Wind is even more unreliable. Unless you have a LOT of solar panels/turbines, you wont be able to keep lights/refrigerators/computers/air conditioning going. And if one breaks it will be a long walk to get spare parts and then find someone who wants to trade them for a goat.

Its a nice idea to live away from everyone and everything but it could take years of practice/training/learning to be able to manage anything more than living in a drafty ramshackle hut freezing in winter and boiling in summer eating whatever you can find.

If you are REALLY serious about this, then spend time learning about wind/solar power, farming, how to preserve food, how to build things, animal care and butchery and husbandry and ofcourse, not going crazy living on your own in the wild somewhere.

Getting off the grid and living a simple life isn't that difficult. It just takes planning.Buying the right piece of land with good southern exposure for crops and solar power and solar hot water.A small creek for a water source for drinking and driving a small turbine generator.Enough batteries hooked up to the grid for the lean times.Good timber about about 10" to 14" for a log house.A lot of people have done it. It just takes some planning.

My dream is a modified version of this; I'd like to find a job that I can work at part-time, or look into some sort of cottage industry like gourmet sauces or vegetable and flower starts that I can grow in my own greenhouse and sell to pay all the unfortunate dues of modern 'society' like fuel and insurance, but try to rely as heavily upon myself for the basic needs of food and shelter as possible.

I talked to an old buddy today and him and a couple others plan to buy 200 acres up north for like $40k. There's been talk of many 'simple' self-sufficient ideas, yet no decisions on the future financial stability. If anyone's done anything like this, I'm all ears!

Chron isn't it too rocky and mountainous to make a go of farming 'up north' of you?
Finding an area with fertile soil, preferably already cleared, is key.

May the force be with you.

You gotta do what the Amish do. They're doing rather well for themselves.

I think your idea is good but you might want to try to do this with a few other people. If you try to do all this by yourself or even with one other person it will be damn near impossible. I would say try to get about 5-6+ like minded people and start planning on how to do this. Maybe start with where you want to build your community. Then learn about farming and energy, and how to build homes.

GET A JOB HIPPIE!!!
j/k!!!

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Hell, it's a beautiful world!:thumbsup:

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very true

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Originally Posted by jagarr

i think a lot of 'heads feel this way. sure i know a bunch of frantic overachievers that still enjoy their j's now and again, but most of would like to just chill in a world where just chilling IS THE MOST EVILEST THING EVAR.

a portion of the generation before me REQUIRES a 9 to 5, then they come home at night, crash hard in front of reality tv on big lay z boys for a few hours with some super high calorie snacks and bitch a bit then repeat it all in the am. my parents are this way. they are cool people but theyre mortal enemies of leisure that isn't on paid vacation time.

suffering makes people feel 'alive' in some weird way i guess, and 'the grind' serves as validation for people who feel like they need to validate their existence when its all just luck that we're here anyways=p but mostly i think that its been this way so long for so many people that its all they know really.

but they think i am nuts, my parents. i am self-employed and barely get by, but im super happy most of the time. i dont stress about work more than is necessary. they wonder how i can sit outside on the porch and smoke cigs and just not worry about anything. they are so accustomed to western civ that they just do it every day like its alright i guess. they seem happy enough, married a loooong time now and ive never seen them so much as raise their voice at one another. honestly they deserve an award.

am i a huge bum to my parents? i guess man, nobodys perfect, but im happy and i dont bother anybody. i dont take what isn't mine. i try to help out a little when i can and do minimal mooching.

i think they are catching on finally. theyre tired too. they want to move out west with a little bit of money and just relax. but i dont want to wait till im near 60 to enjoy my damn life. i already started:rastasmoke:

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Amen, I am exactly the same way, self employment ftw.

Yeah, the government has pretty much prevented this very thing with the hard-hitting combo of real estate taxes and income tax. If you produce enough food to sell and pay you real estate tax and the guy that certifies your well and your vehicle registration, gasoline, and maintenance, buy a new water heater when it goes out, clothes for the misses and kids (You'll probably be looking for a good solid woman after a couple of years...if for nothing else to help out with all the work. Self-sufficient homesteads can be exhausting to maintain. And of course woman is interchangeable with man/tg/draft horse/dog pack. I'm not trying to be a bigot here in case there's some ultra-lefties reading.) Anyway, I make just around 9000 of taxable income per year and the government takes around 13% of that. That's amazingly harsh when living on such a small amount of money. And as far as being on a south-facing slope, you might want to rethink that. The northern slopes might have the only source of surface water once global warming kicks in full strength.